#dean and jack

[soullessjack]

🔥 jack

oh my godddd I have so many unpopular opinions where do I even start….HOLY DISCLAIMER BATMAN!

anyways so in no particular order or tier system:

✯ i don’t think jack would wear anything feminine im sorry spn fandom. for lolz he has same-outfit-pattern-everyday autism and for serious it’s like. Really weird how fandoms tend to HC/portray non-binary amabs (and men/transmascs in general) almost exclusively as GNC or fem-presenting…like DGMW that is a real and valid form of self expression but it’s not the Only type of non-binary expression that exists. and honestly…**dare I say that most fandom/queer spaces just need to realize that queer masculinity exists and it doesn’t always have to be a matter of breaking gender norms??

** genuinely do whatever u want idc I can’t stop you i don’t want to stop you yada yada. paint his nails and put him in a skirt all u want but Please recognize patterns yall 😭

✯ more headcanon complaints (see disclaimer above ⇧) but I promise to switch it up soon. anyways every time somebody on this lil website says something along the lines of “Jack can’t handle/doesn’t like [insert violence, scary or adult-oriented thing], he prefers [soft or blatantly childlike things]” I shrivel inward like a dead spider. It’s annoying, it’s completely inaccurate to his canon personality and interests, it’s annoying ˣ2, and whether ppl wanna admit it or not—it stems from infantilization. not necessarily ableism, as infantilization is not exclusive to disabled people, but still just about the same thing.

honestly all I see of majority jack headcanons are ones that set him back to just being a child or otherwise being treated like one. for example, the one about him being able to shapeshift is pretty cool...until it just becomes about him deciding to age regress, yknow, to an age set he canonically chose not to go through, showed no desire to be in, and is more offended than anything to be considered as such. all of his interests have to be some shit like bluey or animal crossing, and he drinks apple juice from a sippy cup instead of beer. BARF.

I’ve lessened on my keyboard warring over babyjack in the past year but I have not lessened in being a hater. and I’ve said this before, but the baby-jack au already breached headcanon containment a long time ago when it’s not only so widespread that ppl take it for canon and it makes having any intelligent conversation about him nearly fucking Impossible, but it also lead to harassment and accusations of being a fucking predator, to anyone who dared find a whole grown man attractive. any potential jack ship, like jackharper? automatic grooming case to them. it’s like the fandom is just so dead set on this idea that jack really truly is a child in every aspect you can think of, and for what? if it’s just a headcanon, something you know is not part of the actual show, then don’t go Travis the Chimp levels of apeshit when you see him being treated like he is canonically 💀

unpopular opinion numero 3 which is slightly connected to 2:

✯ baby-jack and a handful of the domestic au’s are BORING (see disclaimer again ⇧), not just on a surface level to my suiting, but also because I feel like it just ..misses the point of the show?

the ragtag untraditional found family is now as nuclear and traditional as the Atomic Age. Dean and Cas are the most heteronormative “who wears the pants in the relationship” gay couple ever, Sam is demoted to the uncle that gets written out of his own family, Jack is just there to make his gay dads look cute and emphasize that they’re a gay family (while still being very heteronormative), and at least 5 of them could be found in a California gated community. everything that made any of them unique or defined their personalities is just scrubbed off, even for an AU.

so much of the later seasons focus on Sam and Dean realizing that they don’t have to make a hard splitting decision between the lives they want to live; that they can find a balance; be happy and have good things—namely families—without giving up hunting (and vice versa, that they can have hunting without giving up on family or happiness). everybody loves the gay hunters from S10(?12?) and what they represented for Dean, but I almost never see that be put into practice in the fandom.

THEY’RE ALREADY DOMESTIC!!! AND WITH THAT PERFECT BALANCE!!!! Season 13 quite literally gave Team Free Will a surrogate son to raise and established them as a family; highly untraditional, largely dysfunctional, overall not fitting of a family family, and yet they are a family still. Dean wears an apron and cooks and bakes for everyone; he built himself a man cave and established two separate family night events that they all ritually keep up; Sam has a morning jogging routine and visits his girlfriend every so often; Jack was taught how to drive, has normal chores like washing dishes, and gets groceries. And they didn’t just have that while fighting monsters—they had that while fighting a whole fucking archangel. Even if it did go down the gutter by the end, they still had it: domestic familial bliss and violent messy hunting without having to trade one for the other.

✯ I truly genuinely think Jack’s relationship with Dean is the best, most interesting and most misunderstood out of the three, and I also think that the problems with his relationship to Cas and Sam are hugely overlooked by the fandom—granted they are very small, especially if you’re comparing it to Dean, but they’re still there and I think we should bully Cas and Sam about it more. I shan’t elaborate because it’s 5AM and this was an impulsive add-on ❤️

✯ getting normal now…his plaid pattern jacket from the first half of Ouroboros is ugly as SHIT i have never liked it and don’t think I ever will. but I cannot deny it; he got that shit on.

✯ most unpopular opinion of all, I wanna do insane shit to his cervix 🙌

[13x02]

[archervale]

Let this man be a dad please

[valeron99]

The Loss.

[lukas-dusk]

Dean : I think I’m coming down with something. I’ve been so nauseous lately

Jack, seriously : Maybe you’re pregnant.

*they sit there in silence for a moment*

Castiel : *Visibly panicking Flying away*

Dean :

Jack : hun?

Later, Dean talking to Sam

Dean : I don’t know who’s the bigger idiot. Jack for suggesting that, or Castiel because he almost had a panic attack.

Sam dying of laughter : oH mY gOD!

[annmariethrush]

Dean being the one to point the gun at Jack. Being the Abraham father figure???? Insane. Cas loved him no matter what. Sam always saw him as useful. But Dean saw himself being in the position John was in when he told Dean to kill Sam if he turned evil. Genuinely thinking that your son, whom you love so much, has truly turned dark side. Killed your mother in seeming cold blood. And then to stand there, have him look you in the face and submit as you point a gun at his head, knowing it will physically kill you too. God it’s so fucked. And if Jack had tried to fight him, he would have killed him too. But he didn’t and Dean couldn’t look Jack in the eyes and see the evil he had conjured up in his mind cause it wasn’t there, it was just the little kid in big kid clothing that he had grown to love. Fucking hell

[angelsdean]

dean choosing self-sacrifice and turning himself into a bomb to save the people he cares about and the world from a cosmic being 🤝 jack choosing self-sacrifice and turning himself into a bomb to save the people he cares about and the world from an a cosmic being

they are the same. they have the same internal philosophies re: saving people and sacrifice. they understand each other completely. dean doesn't like jack's choice but he understands and respects it because it's exactly what he would've done.

[mrcowboydeanwinchester]

Abraham Takes His Dog Out Back

dean and jack - 14x20 / 1x22/ 10x23 original poem written for @spnpoetryrenaissance

transcript under cut:

Abraham Takes His Dog Out Back 

He gets down on his knees in front of me 

doe eyes wide, somehow still naive down

the barrel of the gun. 

Like a dog stood waiting at my door,

like the bird between its teeth,

like he’s brought me a gift 

and the gift is something dying. 

I’m holding the gun in my hands

still holding the gun in my hands

how animal is this grief that I will rip

myself to shreds over tasteless prey 

and call it hunting.

Why did no one take me out back

with a gun

before I could be the one doing the shooting.

Then it wouldn’t be suicide.

And put me down gently, it wouldn’t be murder.

God’s watching

but it’s the angel I care about seeing this.

Look away.

Close your eyes, 

look away.

And still my dog kneels, gazing up at me,

smiling,

and waiting for me to shoot.

[saccharine-dean]

jack winning connect 4 against cas but cas winning chess against jack. dean walking by and making some snarky remark ("gee, cas, who's winning?") but cas shuts him down immediately ("i'm not going to go 'easy' on him, dean, that would be an insult to my perception of his intellgence." then, cheerfully from jack, "i don't mind losing.")

and then dean sighs ("well, kid, let me at least try to help you out") and bends down next to jack, who is watching in admiration as he assumes dean is coming up with something clever. he is not. ("move that one there," he says nondescriptively, and cas captures the piece just as quickly as jack sets it down.) jack shoots dean a look of betrayal, and dean is torn between laughing at the childish competitiveness that cas holds with their son and abandoning the situation entirely. embarrassed, he elects for the second option, and walks off to the kitchen, asking what jack wants for lunch.

[shallowseeker]

A tale of two chickens!

I had to pull this out of my Optimism meta because it makes me giggle so much.

Big rooster, little rooster:

Big rooster, little rooster:

And at the very end of the ep. Big rooster, little rooster:

[soullessjack]

once again trying to convey an idea while trapped in the thinking-faster-than-my-mouth-can-speak state of being hello how is everyone

[13x02]

He made him a cake. he made him celebratory burgers when he came back to life. he shares his interests with him. he took him fishing. they watch the lost boys together for the 37th time and smile and quote the lines at each other.

don't touch me dean is jack's dad and loves him so damn bad.

[luna-nigthshade-wood]

AU: Jack, having a crisis while talking to Dean

Jack: Well, how did you know?

Dean, holding Cas hand under the table, confused: How did I know?

Jack: You know, that you liked males as well

Dean, laughing: Doesnt everyone find everyone attractive?

Jack:....

Cas:...

Sam, in the other room:...

Dean: Dont they?

Dean: No, seriously, dont they?

Jack: You know what? Nevermind.

[anakinism]

THE BOYS (2019- ) / SUPERNATURAL (2005-2020)

[monsters-sinners-angels]

Friendly reminder: Dean is not a dad to Jack. At most, he's an uncle of sorts.

[angelsdean]

ok but just. thinking abt jack telling cas in 15x15 that sacrificing himself to save the world and becoming a bomb is his choice. like this is team free will, and jack has the autonomy and will to choose. he's making this choice, even if no one else is on board, because they're not. cas certainly is not, and he immediately leaves to find another way. sam isn't either when he finds out. and then there's dean.

dean, who has been struggling the entire seasons with the reality that chuck has been keeping them in a rat-maze their whole lives. dean's arc this season has been showing him slipping into utter desperation to break out of chuck's story. he tells billie he needs chuck gone, and he doesn't have to like every part of the plan. and this part of the plan? jack's sacrifice? yeah, he doesn't like it. despite what billie implies, that jack's sacrifice is the only way dean will forgive jack, dean doesn't want this. he doesn't want jack dead. he's been working through his feelings of grief and anger post-mary and working toward forgiveness and repairing his relationship with jack. that's the core thesis of Last Holiday. he wants them to be a family again, it's the chuck desperation that gets to him and twists things. but at his core, no he doesn't want jack to die, but he feels like they have no other options and he needs chuck gone. he can't live like this anymore! that's why he explodes in the car with sam at the end of 15x16, because dean does not want this anymore than sam does, but he feels like they have no choice. and this is also indicative of how much dean is slipping, which will come to a head in the next ep, 15x17. because their core mission and belief is there is always a choice. team free will !!!!

it's a big clanging warning bell and red flag that dean feels so hopeless here, that he feels they have no other choice than to let jack go through with this sacrifice. but it's also very in-line with dean's own personal actions and beliefs that when the world is on the line he is always willing to put himself on the line to save it. dean will always self-sacrifice to save the ones he loves and the world at large. it's his MO.

so, part of him also understands exactly why jack has made this choice. he might not like it, and if he weren't so desperate right now he'd be on the same page with cas and sam wanting to find another way, but he does understand jack's choice, because it's the exact same choice dean would make if he were in jack's shoes. in fact, it's a choice dean DID make back in s11 when he was going to literally turn himself into a bomb to take out amara and save the world !!!!! he gets it!!!