#dehumanization and mental illness
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sukibenders · 3 months ago
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Me, watching some YJS fans justify what Shauna did to Mari by using clips of Mari and Jackie giggling in s1 (normal teenage girl things), or Mari speaking the truth and trying to take Jackie's jacket (even though it was the middle of winter and the group were already sharing clothes), with said fans saying that they've would've done worse to Mari in response, acting like that makes them any better:
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#yellowjackets spoilers#yellowjackets#like this fandom continues to disappoint me#“she's traumatized” not an excuse especially since she specifically was targeting mari for the thrill and dehumanized her body after#something in which she hadn't done to the other kills mind you and then wore mari's hair as a trope#*trophy#that is beyond being traumatized and just shauna being horrific. it's okay to admit that#what isn't okay however is to dismiss valid criticism (largely from poc fans) about how dehumanizing it was that she did to mari#by saying “women can't commit wrongs” or “let women be wrong” when you know damn well that isn't the case#(or are you mad that you can't live out your violent fantasy thru shauna without being called out? hmm)#and all the reasons those fans use to justify it are just mari being 1.) a teenage girl 2.) being truthfully honest and 3.) worse sins have#been committed by the other characters like SHAUNA#when you bring up how shauna slept jeff and got pregnant by her best friend's boyfriend it's just “oh teenage girl things”#but when mari is also doing “teenage girl things” one which includes being shady and a bit mean suddenly that excuse no longer applies#largely bc fandom often times doesn't sympathize much with poc characters as they do their yte counterparts#especially if they're young#shauna shipman#mari ibarra#anti shauna shipman#if i ever said that shauna was one of my faves i take it back SO HARD#shauna's ass crying back in the adult tl like she's innocent....i need her to die#but watch the show give her a graceful send out bc it's the shauna show (even tho it's an ensemble cast)#it's kind of annoying to see these fans use lottie as a comparison saying that people care about mental illness as long as the person#doesn't react violently like shauna and while to a degree i can understand bc that is true#in this case it kind of falls flat when you take into consideration how in the show and fandom lottie and her mental state haven't been#treated with the same response or care that shauna has (lottie is beaten brutally while experiencing an episode by shauna)#and it's done dirty throughout the show until her death with only really simone speaking up angrily against how she's portrayed#(same people who are justifying shauna lashing out in anger regarding her trauma were the same ones who were hating on travis in s1 & s2)
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xltoucan · 16 days ago
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I'm going to be real I think it's weird to have a bit about Ichiban having schizophrenia. Like as if it's a funny joke.
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azzymaxxing · 30 days ago
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susie being the one to let ralsei take control. okay then
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techno-rat · 8 months ago
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techno and his relationship to dehumanization is SOOO important to me .
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glass-eating-fox · 4 months ago
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the most realistic part of batman is probably all the ableism
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thetruejerrycan · 1 year ago
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Your anime crush is a hallucination who disappears when you take your schizophrenia medication, yeah you're so goddamn funny, original, and tolerant of psychotic people. I would love to hear it told again because punching down at the mentally ill gets funnier the more you do it
(This is sarcasm, sanism particularly against those with psychosis and schizophrenia is extremely shitty and unfunny and I want to see less of it on the internet from here forward)
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weepingfireflies · 10 months ago
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Medical shows stop "fixing" characters' mental illness by giving them physical causes challenge
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cucurbitophobia · 10 months ago
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I this person should kill themself actually. For the good of humanity
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iveeaten3humanorganz · 1 year ago
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“Well maybe if you didn’t-“ THEY TOLD ME TO KILL MYSELF? THEY TOLD SOMEONE TO SLIT? I was trying to be neutral and calm and I got the end of that. How is that even fair?? And now that I don’t have to be afraid of speaking up, you all act like this? It’s so unfair. I relapsed because of that. I was called weird a degenerate. Fucking dehumanizing. I feel like some sort animal you all point to and go “Wow mommy look at it’s sharp and inhuman teeth. I bet if I pulled its tail it wouldn’t bite.” Everyone is way too calm about making me a monster. Would it be better if I didn’t have teeth to bite at all?
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dirt-grub · 2 years ago
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rick and morty where the kids are desensitized is kinda awesome actually theyre deranged in a way thats familiar to me
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coconuts-are-mammals · 2 years ago
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wow, it's a good thing that such tropes are confined only to fiction! that tragedies like these, that nobody can relate to, never happen, and what's more, are so so so uncommon! its a good thing that tropes like memory loss are completely fiction and thus not alienated or misunderstood, completely missing the voices of people who struggle with them! because those people don't exist!!! hahaha that's such a good thing
Enough of the trope where memory loss undoes the damage or the corruption or whatever. More content where removing memories just removes the context.
The tragedy of needing to grieve and not knowing what or who you lost or why. The angst of having trauma and being denied the awareness that it's trauma. The suspense of being different somehow and left to wonder how and when. The tension of knowing that something is off and you can't find where it hurts. The Adventure Zone gets it. Kingdom Hearts gets it.
There is an aching inside you and you don't know how it got there.
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lifeafterpsychiatry · 8 months ago
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The worst thing is that there is so much potential for exploring the horror of psych wards from the angle of medical abuse, ableism, forced treatment/drugging, loss of autonomy, power imbalance, demonization, dehumanization, etc, and YET the horror genre keeps defaulting to "insane asylums and psych wards are scary because there are mentally ill people in there"
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