#dennis the menace at disney

[corey-45]

My Recent Weird Sonic-Related Dream

So recently, I had one of those weird dreams. I guess it wasn't really that weird - in fact, it seemed semi-plausible in parts - but I'll let you judge for yourselves.

Anyway, in that dream, I learned of a lost SNES game titled Mickey's Magical Adventure (not to be confused with the actual VTech game with that name). Apparently, it was a collab between Disney, Nintendo, and Sega, and even featured Sonic and Tails - and, for some strange reason, Dennis the Menace (the UK comics character, not the US one) - as guest characters. Apparently, it was considered "lost media" because while there were videos and magazine articles, there were no ROMs to be found anywhere on the Internet.

The thing that stuck out the most to me was that there were so many butts in the game. When you selected your character, there was a short animated cutscene of them with their back turned to the viewer, strutting down a corridor while shaking their behind (and yes, Mickey, Sonic, Tails, and even Dennis - who, strangely enough, was wearing his usual outfit, except that he'd apparently forgotten to put on his shorts, meaning that everyone could see his underpants - strutted while shaking their butts, too). I also saw a "Game Over" screen that consisted of a close-up of Sonic and Tails's butts as the duo wiggled them around (much like the "The End" screens in the obscure Sega Saturn platformers Bug! and Bug Too!), while the words "TRY AGAIN?" were on the top of the screen. I assume that was the same for all the characters.

As for the levels, I only remember one vertical grassy biome level, and another level where you were on the mast of a sinking wooden ship, which swayed left and right in Mode 7 fashion.

One more thing I remember about this dream is that I learned that the reason this game was "lost media" was that all parties involved, shortly after the game was released, became ashamed of it for whatever reason (perhaps they got a lot of complaints from soccer moms about the gratuitous booty-shaking?), and order that all future copies were to be destroyed, and all present copies be prohibited from sale.

So yeah, that's pretty much what I remember about my dream. Like I said earlier, it wasn't really all that weird - parts of it even seemed semi-plausible - but I just can't get those butts out of my mind.

[beardedmrbean]

Zoomer Huey, I tend to see people saying why Gen z don’t have sex much.

Holy

Fucking

Shits

These journalists surprisedly have WORSE self awareness than there boomer relatives

Here a hint https://x.com/swannmarcus89/status/1762582001507323991?s=46

And gender dynamics are…nuked in the fields they are surveying. Women and girls are told that all men are predators and misandry is left unchecked

Also, why Hollywood act surprised about the sex abuse?

We all heard about the casting coach, and how suspiciously people from working class backgrounds like Micheal Jackson (yes his dad had his music connections. But essentially mj was a slave and was arguably was the first black child star unless I’m missing someone) and Walt Disney (though not as bad) are painted as monsters while the actual monsters are protected for decades

I mean look at Judy Garland, she was a sweet person and she did help the LBGT in Hollywood and supported the civil rights movement

But her “crazy” behavior makes more sense because she was sexually abused at a extremely young age

And she not the only one, Shirley Temple, the boy who played at the first LA Dennis the Manis

Oh and the Peter Pan actor (a lot of people leave out the part where ALL of Hollywood basically says he can choke and die because he was “too” Disney)

But sorry about the Gen stuff, but the false rape accusations, maybe if you guys didn’t view men (especially white ones) the same way Nazis viewed the Jews while saying all the working class men were Weinstein.

My Gen would have more sex

Entertainment industry has been like that since the beginning of forever, probably less so when women weren't allowed to participate but still a thing I'm sure.

As for Judy Garland it was nice to see people come out swinging in her defense when someone tried to start shit over well

She was not in control of her carer, saying no was not an option for her with this, but dumbasses that can only think in terms of today's standards never think about that.

Jay North (Dennis the Menace) did ok, so did Shirley Temple, plenty of others not so much, more recently we can look at Drew Barrymore and RDJ who both had fairly public meltdowns and problems.

Drew was ruined since her first film was ET and Spielberg takes care of the kids on set, going beyond the legal requirements.

Bobby Driscol was the Peter Pan VA top of his Wiki article.

Robert "Bobby" Cletus Driscoll (March 3, 1937 – c. March 30, 1968) was an American actor who performed on film and television from 1943 to 1960. He starred in some of the Walt Disney Studios' best-known live-action pictures of that period: Song of the South (1946), So Dear to My Heart (1949), and Treasure Island (1950), as well as RKO's The Window (1949). He served as the animation model and provided the voice for the title role in Peter Pan (1953). He received an Academy Juvenile Award for outstanding performances in So Dear to My Heart and The Window.

He just fell into the child actor pit, where he wasn't "cute" anymore couldn't get gigs and couldn't adjust to not being in the spotlight, the way he went and nobody knowing is awful to think about still.

Jackie Coogan, on the other hand was a different story.

His parents sucked and as a result there's a series of laws named after him California's Coogan Law all about protecting the earnings of child actors from their parents. % goes into a trust iirc.

He ended up OK in the end though

The false accusation thing, #me too hurt women because #believe women was taken advantage of to such a degree that even this coming out to light

has still probably not cleared up for the trooper, and men are opting to not mentor women because of not wanting to risk a false accusation, everyone screams about how rare they are, to which I say so what, why should they assume the risk even if it's minor

Former VP Mike Pence came out and said he won't be alone with a woman that's not his wife in order to ensure that there is no possibility of someone making a claim of impropriety.

And he got this response

Why is anyone going to put their neck on the line when something like what he said is going to get this kind of response.

Maybe instead of crying about how rare false accusations are they should focus on shaming the people making them and coming up with solutions to keep them from happening.

You know instead of blaming the victims of the false accusations.

All this and so much more going on that isn't in this ask goes to the I don't blame people for not having as much sex, it's actually kinda nice too, fewer std's this way.

I went on a couple tangents, hope that's ok

[tomoleary]

Voice For Children Signed "Cartoon Jam" Print (Stabur Graphics, 1986)

“This panoramic print features perhaps the largest number of cartoon licenses granted for one project, as well as what might be the most cartoonists participating in one cartoon jam for a commercial print. The scene also features the first licensed appearances of Walt Disney and Walter Lantz characters co-starring in the same piece. It's a veritable ‘orchestra and choir’ of characters singing for the welfare of children as the ‘Voice For Children.’

“Signed by: Stan Lee, Charles Schulz, Walter Lantz, Jim Davis, Johnny Romita, Milton Caniff, Mort Drucker, Jack Kirby, Bill Keane, Mike Royer, Moebius, Sergio Aragones, Hank Ketcham, Kelly Freas, Bob Thaves, Jim Unger, Jack Hannah, Don Dougherty, Jerry Van Amerongen, Leonard Starr, Arnold Roth, Tom Batiuk, Mike Peters, Harvey Kurtzman, Al Jaffee, Morrie Turner, Mel Lazarus, B. K. Taylor, Marty Murphy, Dean Young and Stan Drake, Russell Myers, Jim Meddick, Dick Locher, Mort Walker, MacNelly, Johnny Hart, Fred Lasswell, Paul Coker Jr, Irwin Hasen, Ray Salmon, Dick Browne, Will Elder, Bud Sagendorf, Dick Moores, Joe Martin, Jack Davis, Bob Foster, Judd Hurd, Frank Ridgeway, Al Williamson, Bernard Kliban, Bill Mauldin, and more.

“And featuring these characters: The Amazing Spider-Man, Captain America, Ms Peach, Mama, Wizard of Id, B. C., Nancy and Sluggo, Robotman, U. S. Acres, Gasoline Alley, Dondi, Conrad, Broom-Hilda, Mama, Wee Pals, Luann, Animal Crackers, Terry and the Pirates, Wright Angles, Dick Tracy, Family Circus, Benchley, the Neighborhood, Charlie Brown, Peanuts and Snoopy, Beetle Bailey, Hi and Lois, Hagar the Horrible, Groo the Wanderer, Cathy, Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck, Popeye, Blondie, Woody Woodpecker, Little Annie Fannie, Mr. Abernathy, Little Orphan Annie, Dennis the Menace, Herman, President Ronald Reagan, First Lady Nancy Reagan, Buddy Hackett, Snuffy Smith, Garfield, and Alfred E Neuman.”

Source

[best-character-named-x-poll]

For Dennis: Dennis Mitchell (Dennis the Menace), Denise Fox (East Enders -feminin), Dennis Loughran (Hotel Transylvania), Dennis the Peasant (Monty python and the holy grail)

For Mick: Mick St John (Moonlight tv series), Mick Dundee (Crocodile Dundee)

For Nicole: Nikki Maxwell (Dork Diaries), Nicole Rayleigh Haught (Wynonna Earp), Nicole Noone (the Librarian)

For Addison: Addison Augustine (Quantum Leap), Addison Montgomery (Greys Anatomy)

For Declan: Declan O’Callaghan (Leap Year), Declan Mulqueen (the Jackal), Declan Desmond (the Simpsons)

For Duke: Daisy Duke (Dukes of Hazzard), Duke Weaselton (Zootopia), William “Duke” Wellington (Miss Scarlet and the Duke), Duke (Fantasia 2000–Rhapsody in Blue), Marmaduke (Marmaduke)

For Bernard: Bernard (The Rescuers), Bernard the Head Elf (The Santa Clause)

For Constance: Constance Contraire (mysterious Benedict society)

For Darcy: Mr Fitzwilliam Darcy (Pride and Prejudice), Darcy Lewis (Marvel Thor), Darci Mason (DC animated universe)

New list: Snow: Snow White (Disney/fairytales), Weiss Schnee (RWBY), Coriolanus Snow/Tigress Snow (Hunger Games), Jon Snow (ASoIaF), Cartoon Snow (DC)

Lucy: Lucy (Peanuts), Lucy Pevensie (Narnia), Lucy Heartfillia (Fairy Tail), Lucy the gladiator (One Piece—Dressrosa arc), Lucinda Price (Fallen by Lauren Kate)

Thank you for the suggestions!

I have already done a Lucy poll, which you can find here. All past polls can be found on my pinned post or alternatively here.

As for Snow, as stated in my pinned post, last names do not count, first names only please :)

[mccraecook99]

Ginger Bunny-Columbia Pictures 100th Anniversary Tribute.

Since I know earlier this month,Columbia Pictures,one of Hollywood’s leading movie entertainment powerhouses and part of the Sony family reached its centennial year by turning 100 earlier this year. While not much of itand was more in the likes of Universal,MGM,Warner Bros.,and Disney/20th Century Studios, I still consider it a true Hollywood powerhouse and one of the leading film studios in Hollywood to this day. In honor of the elite Hollywood studio that had their famous iconic lady(Lady Columbia)light up the way with her torch to give us some of the greatest,award-winning, and iconic Hollywood movies(It Happened One Night,Mr.Deeds Goes To Town,Mr.Smith Goes To Washington,Gilda,From Here To Eternity,Dr. Strangelove,Oliver,Funny Girl,Taxi Driver,Close Enounters of The Third Kind,Heavy Metal,Annie,The Big Chill,Starman,Stand By Me,When Harry Met Sally,Boyz in the Hood,City Slickers,A League of Their Own,The Shawshank Redemption,Desperado,Little Women,Groundhog Day,Anaconda,Sense and Sensibility,Stuart Little,XXX,Big Fish,The Legend of Zorro,Superbad,The Social Network,Zombieland,Goosebumps,and Once Upon A Time….In Hollywood),made some of the biggest money-making movie franchises(Ghostbusters,Men in Black,Jumanji,The Karate Kid,Spider-Man,Sony’s Spider-Man Universe,and Bad Boys),produced many TV shows/sitcoms(Dennis the Menace,Bewitched,I Dream of Jeannie,Gidget,The Monkees,Fantasy Island,Charlie’s Angels,Seinfeld,The Critic,and Just Shoot Me!),distributed many computer animated films under the Sony Pictures Animation name(such as Open Season,Surf’s Up,Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs,Hotel Transylvania,Arthur Christmas,The Pirates: Band of Misfits,The Smurfs:The Lost Village,Spider-Man:Into The Spider-Verse and Across The Spider-Verse,The Mitchells Vs. The Machines,and Vivo),produced live-action comedy shorts featuring comedy icons such as The Three Stooges and Buster Keaton in the 1930’s to 1950’s, was a key player in distributing Walt Disney’s many Mickey Mouse and Silly Symphonies cartoons in the early 30’s, later released cartoon shorts made by it’s Screen Gems cartoon division in the 30’s-40’s and then ones produced by the pioneering animation studio known as UPA in the 40’s-50’s,and it’s TV unit helped make Hanna-Barbera a household name in the TV industry and a pioneer in television animation in the 60’s thanks to bringing it’s earlier cartoon creations like The Flintstones,The Jetsons,Yogi Bear,Huckleberry Hound,Jonny Quest,and Top Cat to television.

Here is a centennial tribute drawing pic I did for Columbia Pictures’ 100th anniversary featuring my own take on the studio’s iconic famous torch lady with my own rabbit girl OC,Ginger Bunny now dressed as the lady now holding the shining torch and standing on a pedestal. 

So, Happy 100th Anniversary to Columbia Pictures,  the studio that always had it’s famous lady standing on a pedestal that light up the screens with her torch to shine the way to start every movie and that have gave and brought us many films,shows,shorts,cartoons,and franchises over the last 100 years like Men in Black,the Spider-Man,Ghostbusters,Bad Boys,The Karate Kid,Jumanji,The Three Stooges,Hotel Transylvania,Charlie’s Angels,Bewitched,Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs,Senfield,and many more.

[ptbf2002]

My Top 10 Favorite Australian Shows

Next Stop For My Top 10 Worldwide Shows Is In Australia. Here's My Top 10 Of Shows That Was Produced In Australia.

#10 Dennis the Menace and Gnasher (2009 TV series)

#9 The Strange Chores

#8 H2O: Just Add Water

#7 CJ The DJ

#6 Zeke's Pad

#5 Mako's Mermaids

#4 100% Wolf Legend Of Moonstone

#3 SMG4

#2 Nate Is Late

And #1 Space Chickens In Space

Original Template By @DemitriaMiriam

Templates: https://www.deviantart.com/demitriamiriam/art/My-Top-10-Favorite-Meme-207757812 & https://www.deviantart.com/demitriamiriam/art/My-Top-10-Favorite-Meme-Ver-2-306608634

Dennis the Menace and Gnasher (2009 TV series) Belongs To David Law, Jiang Toon Animation Co. Ltd. Morning Sun Animation Co., Ltd. Shanghai Morning Sun Animation Co., Ltd. Sichuan Top Animation Co., Ltd. Top Draw Animation Inc. Sticky Pictures, Red Kite Animation, Beano Productions, The Beano, DC Thomson & Company Limited, CBBC, BBC Television, BBC Worldwide Ltd. BBC Studios Ltd. British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), Nine Network Australia Pty. Ltd. And Nine Entertainment Co. Holdings Limited.

The Strange Chores Belongs To Charlie Aspinwall, Daley Pearson, Ludo Studio, Media World Pictures, Succ Pictures, Screen Australia, Film Victoria, VicScreen, Screen Queensland Studios, ABC Me (Australia), ABC Television (Australian TV network) And Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)

H2O: Just Add Water Belongs To Jonathan M. Shiff, Jonathan M. Shiff Productions, ZDF Enterprises GmbH, ZDF Studios GmbH, ZDF, Australian Film Commission, Film Finance Corporation Australia, Screen Australia, Film Victoria, VicScreen, Pacific Film and Television Commission, Screen Queensland Studios, Network 10, Ten Network Holdings Ltd. Paramount Networks UK & Australia, Paramount International Networks, And Paramount Global

CJ The DJ Belongs To Stu Connolly, Mark Gravas, Kapow Pictures, Vision Animation, Millimages, Screen NSW, ABC Me (Australia), ABC Television (Australian TV network) And Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)

Zeke's Pad Belongs To Liz Scully, Flying Bark Productions Pty. Ltd. Studio 100 Media, Studio 100 N.V. Bardel Entertainment, Inc. Avrill Stark Entertainment, Leaping Lizard Productions, Seven Network, Seven West Media Ltd. YTV, YTV Canada, Inc. And Corus Entertainment Inc.

Mako's Mermaids Belongs To Belongs To Jonathan M. Shiff, Jonathan M. Shiff Productions, ZDF Enterprises GmbH, ZDF Studios GmbH, ZDF, Screen Australia, Screen Queensland Studios, Network 10, Ten Network Holdings Ltd. Paramount Networks UK & Australia, Paramount International Networks, Paramount Global, And Netflix, Inc.

Nate Is Late Belongs To Sylvain Huchet, Peter Saisselin, Watch Next Media, La Factorie Animation, Nate is Late Productions, KidsFirst Distribution, Super RTL, RTL Deutschland GmbH, RTL Group S.A. Pop, Pop Max, CSC Media Group Limited, Sony Pictures Television Inc. Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc. Sony Entertainment, Inc. Sony Corporation of America, Sony Group Corporation, Narrative Entertainment UK Limited, Nine Network Australia Pty. Ltd. Nine Entertainment Co. Holdings Limited, France 4, And France Télévisions S.A.

Space Chickens In Space Belongs To José C. García de Letona, Rita Street, Markus Vad Flaaten, Tommy Vad Flaaten, Alan Keane, Shane Perez, Scott Sonneborn, Ánima Estudios, S.A.P.I. de C.V. Studio Moshi, Gingerbread Animation, Ingenious Media, CAKE Entertainment Ltd. Walt Disney EMEA Productions, 9Go! Nine Network Australia Pty. Ltd. Nine Entertainment Co. Holdings Limited, Disney XD, Disney XD, Disney Branded Television, Disney–ABC Home Entertainment and Television Distribution, Disney General Entertainment Content, Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution, Disney Entertainment, And The Walt Disney Company

[micoc84]

Comics America

Superman (1938) - J.Siegel, DC - Clark, Lois, Lex Luthor Archie Andrews (1941) - Goldwater, Pep - Betty, Veronica, Jughead Mickey Mouse (1928) - Disney, Min, Donald, Goof Charlie Brown (1948) - Schulz, Snoop, Linus, Lucy, Peppermint The Jetsons (1962) - Hanna, Barbera - George, Jane, Elroy, Judy X-Men (1963) - J.Kirby, Marvel - Xavier, Jean, Cyclops Wolverine Scooby- Doo (1969) - J.Ruby -Warner - Shaggy, Fred, Daphne Futurama (1999) - Groening - Fox, Phil Fry, Leela, Bender, Zoidberg Dick Tracy (1931) - C.Gould - Tribune, Tess Truheart, Junior GI Joe (1983) - D.Levine, Hasbro, Sg. Duke, Lt Falcon, Jinx Wizard Oz (1900), Buck Rogers (29), Looney Tunes (1930), Popeye Sailor (33), Casper Friendly (36), Batman (39), Tom & Jerry (40), Captain America (41), Wonder Woman (41), Muppets (55), Heckle Jeckle (55), Woody Woodpecker (57), Huckleberry Hound (58), Rocky Bullwinkle (1959), Flintstones (60), Yogi Bear (61), Spiderman (62), Jonny Quest (64), Space Ghost (66), Star Trek (66), Zap Comics (68), Pink Panther (69), Sesame Street (69)

Conan Barbarian (70), Heathcliff (73), Dungeons Dragons (74), Garfield (76), Star Wars (77), Picture Bible (78), Smurfs (81), Alvin Chipmunks (83), Inspector Gadget (83), He-Man Masters (83), Dungeons Dragons (83), Fraggle Rock (83), Transformers (84), Muppet Babies (84), Thundercats (85), Calvin and Hobbes (85), Jem (85), Dennis Menace (86), Care Bears (86), TMN Turtles (87), Duck Tales (87), Chip Dale Rangers (89), Simpsons (89) Talespin (90), Ren and Stimpy (91), Rugrats (91), Doug (91), Hellboy (93), Animaniacs (93), Rocko's Modern (93), Beavis Bhead (93), Toy Story (95), Arthur (96), Game of Thrones (96), South Park (97), Daria (97), Johnny Bravo (97), Powerpuff Girls (98), Family Guy (99), Spongebob Square (99), Kim Possible (02), Venture Bros (04), Avatar Airbend (05) -Nickel, Phineas Ferb (07), Adventure Time (10), Despicable Me (10), Gravity Falls (12), Rick & Morty (13), Stranger Things (2016)

[sailor-peeking]

Mirabel is low-key a menace for the way she says that last line

I know at least one of them four kids went home and asked where babies come from.

"thats how Abuela became an 😏Abuela😏"

some kid later that day: i don't get it?? babies are just born when you get married 😰

[samsdisneydiary]

50's Prime Time Café | Full Video Loop | Hollywood Studios | First Time on YouTube

50’s Prime Time Café | Full Video Loop | Hollywood Studios | First Time on YouTube

[disneyschedules]

Here’s Freeform’s Schedule for December 30-January 5.

More reruns of current Freeform shows like grown-ish air this week, The Simpsons is gone, but will return next week. 

Saturday, January 5 is the Freeform premiere of What Happens in Vegas (2008).

[browsethestacks]

Remember When… Comics Did Easter?

[damailbox]

August 1993

[oldshowbiz]

before creating Dennis the Menace, Hank Ketcham was a staff artist at Disney. He participated in the heated 1941 animator’s strike at the studio, walking the picket line with the other artists. Walt Disney was convinced all his striking animators were involved in a communist conspiracy.

[mrawkweird]

Okay, here's a question. What are some of your favorite characters who you find hot but the art team didn't intend to be that way, like Cailou's mom for example.

First of all, GOT DAMN to Caillou's mom 'cause shit..

His dad don't know what he doing with all that.

The teacher from that Pippi Longstocking movie had me feeling some type of way.

When I was a kid I could never really truly understand why ain't nobody wanted Marie Kanker. Like, fuck a Naz; people should have been fighting over Marie. She just hit several notes with me for whatever reason. I guess judging by the name you weren't supposed to want any part of that but I wanted the whole thing and that Fusion Fall game they had didn't help me feel otherwise.

Risking it all in the Cul-de-Sac.

Also, it's honestly difficult to really include any Disney or Hanna-Barbera related characters because more often than not they tend to know exactly what they're trying to do. You can't look at Tinkerbell and go

"Oh, that was a mistake..".

That being said, however..

Velma can almost be considered the poster child for such a topic because no matter what intentional hotness they touch on now I don't believe they ever initially meant for it. The tickets being sold in the Scooby-Doo universe was usually for the Daphne train but as the years went on the Velma Express ended up taking off harder than they could ever imagine.

Jenny from My Life As A Teenage Robot. I can't explain it. I was a teenager, I was hor-an honest teenager. It kind of all just happened. I crushed on a teenage robot. Maybe that shit was subliminal.

This also might be an honorable mention because it might not have been the main goal but somebody on the team had to be feeling some kind of way..

There's no need to wonder why Dennis was such a menace because Mr. Mitchell was activating full menace mode all up in that. We know exactly where it came from. This family's full of menaces.

[love-takes-work]

Virtual Program: Happily Ever After Hours with Directors and Producers Rebecca Sugar and Ian Jones-Quartey

I attended this virtual event and am now sharing a summary! I got a ticket!

Rebecca Sugar and Ian Jones-Quartey were invited to appear on the Disney Happily Ever After Hours program for a Pride focus. This was run with Tracie Timmer, Bri Bertolaccini, and Maya Colbert. 

Please read more below to learn about Rebecca and Ian answering questions regarding fighting for LGBTQIA content in kids’ media, inspiration in their young lives, advice for queer creators, the story behind the antiracist PSAs, music and storytelling evolution from their early comics days through Adventure Time and building Steven Universe and OK K.O.!, and all kinds of other tidbits, with a Q&A at the end. This is an important one for all of us LGBTQIA artists and fans. 

You can only watch the interview on the WDFMuseum Facebook and YouTube channel the next day after this was posted for the next 48 hours, unless you want to become a member and have full access.

The virtual program begins: Bri Bertolaccini, while switching up pronouns between they and she, introduces Rebecca Sugar along with accomplishment lists, and introduces Ian Jones-Quartey with he/him pronouns and his list of accomplishments.

The first question is about what did they relate to in animation that brought them into the industry: Rebecca related to nerdy kids like Dib (Invader Zim), Lisa Simpson (The Simpsons), and Jack Skellington (The Nightmare Before Christmas) because of being a Jewish kid who wanted to understand Christmas but never got to have it for themself. They liked Utena because they related to being bi and nonbinary (Utena has relationships with guys and girls, and wears the boys’ school uniform)--and of course Usopp from One Piece. 

Rebecca was attracted to all characters and no characters at the same time, and loved scrappy underdogs. Ian felt that you HAVE to identify with characters onscreen because they aren't human. He also loves scrappy underdogs--Usopp, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck (Looney Tunes)--and he loves the idea of turning things around on people when you don't have the upper hand. As the son of immigrants, he related to Goku (Dragon Ball) because he was "divorced from his home planet." He found it easy to relate to things he saw on animation. He was the Ninja Turtles! But he was Dennis the Menace! It was all about flexibility.

Bri brings up that both Rebecca and Ian worked on Adventure Time and asks how that brought them both into where they are now. Rebecca talks about indie comics, and giving a comic to Phil Rynda, who got Rebecca a test on Adventure Time. They had to take an outline and board it out, and hadn't even known this kind of boarder position even existed anymore. Rebecca got a job as a revisionist, then got promoted to boarder. 

Ian was working on Venture Bros. and Rebecca had already moved out to do Adventure Time. Ian did a test for Regular Show and Adventure Time during a lull for Venture Bros. Ian didn't feel he was a good fit for writing on Adventure Time--he says he almost thought writing on that show was like poetry!--but he got in as a revisionist because they liked his drawings. He ended up in charge of revisions once Rebecca was already moved on. They never quite worked hand in hand on the show but were always crossing paths. They discussed the “Lady & Peebles” episode and all the great revisions and special poses that happened--one of Ian's favorite episodes. Rebecca says they'd worked together on personal work and outside work so it was cool to get to play to each other's strengths at work too.

Rebecca speaks about “It Came From the Nightosphere” being their first board on the show. She originally wrote "bombastic" songs for their idea of having a more musical episode, but they wanted her to make it more of an intimate little song--the Fry Song was what came out of that revision, and Rebecca had to work really hard to get the courage to pitch with singing. Ian and Rebecca practiced on the roof. Bri pointed out hearing "I'm Just Your Problem" on Tiktok all the time, which surprised both of them.

Bri then asked about pitching their shows and asks for the history. Rebecca says Cartoon Network actually came to her to ask about it--she really wanted to have that option to have her own show, but didn't expect it to happen at this time in her career. She and Ian both were asked to pitch a show. She brings up wanting to do work that she wasn't going to get sick of, so of course she chose a show inspired by her brother Steven. The main question she wanted to address was about gendered shows--she wanted to scramble gender in her own show, and try to understand why she had such a bad reaction herself to shows "for girls" as a kid. Her show was designated as a show for 6- to 11-year-old boys, but that was exactly what she liked to watch as a kid (even though she felt weirdly guilty about not liking shows "for girls"). She wanted to make Steven Universe have elements for everyone, so no one would ever feel like the show wasn't for them.

Bri asks why is it important to tell gender expansive/LGBT+ stories in animation. Rebecca says it was always so limited in terms of content for, about, and by queer people. She thinks it was super critical to get animation out there for these kids because bigotry exists against creators and content itself--and it's deliberate, the violence inherent in doing that to viewers during their formative years, it's got a lasting effect. They latched onto "queer coded villains" because that's all there was, and felt that was at least something, even though it was associated with negativity and was hurtful. Ian thinks even though this was in a sci-fi story, it was intended to tell these specific audience members that they existed, as they put themselves into their work. Rebecca brings up how exciting it was to include stuff that's usually a joke but it wasn't framed as a joke. They never felt any affirmation for bi kids in TV shows they liked--only for people who were sort of like her that were attracted to men--and if you saw same-sex attraction or gender-nonconforming behavior in a show it was attached to jokes or villainy. She really wanted to make work that included authentic portrayals of insecurities and struggles that non-cis and non-straight people would feel validated by.

Bri says she can't wait to see the next generation and what they can do after having gotten to have these shows in their childhood. She asks to know how Ian took what he learned on Steven Universe to OK K.O.!. Steven went forward first, and Ian poured his work into that while being told OK K.O.! needed more development. By the time he got to push his show forward, it was very much sharing DNA with Steven. With his show as more of a "hard comedy," it is still a somewhat similar show, with a lot of true specific experiences. Rebecca says Steven had so much of Ian in it, and that his excited-for-adventures persona was very much like K.O., which after Ian left, Steven became "a miserable teenager," which Rebecca jokes was like herself. Ian brings up the the boardwalk in the show and how a little version of OK K.O.! was inside Steven Universe. The whole "thing" about Steven was having two sides, and having visual shortcuts to his magic side and his human side was useful. K.O. also has two sides: wanting to be a hero and dealing with buried trauma. Both shows share that. They helped each other a lot on each other shows, and Rebecca got to write for the ending.

Bri points out that the two have a great work/life relationship. Then she brings up the Antiracist PSAs and wants to know the story on how those got made. Rebecca had finished the show and decided to talk to Estelle about the "empty corporate responses" to racial inequality. Rebecca had some calls with Estelle who "used her star power" to move mountains. They did a $100,000 fundraiser for National Bailout and then continued to work with Chromosphere to do the antiracist PSAs. They wanted to support marginalized artists and they were glad it was well-funded. Bri liked the message and the style of them.

Then they move on to a Q&A.

Tracie asks Ian if any other characters besides Nanefua are based on people he knows. He acknowledges Theodosia Okoh being his grandmother and being the inspiration for Nanefua. He thought of her as his inspiration and his "permission" to do art. The Pizzas were definitely based on his family--Jenny is his cousin (same name!), for instance. But most of the other people were more like archetype mixtures and inspirations from friends they have. Ian says Enid on OK K.O.! is based on Rebecca. They joke that any group of two characters will usually somehow become symbolic of the two of them, most notably Ruby and Sapphire, or even Amethyst and Pearl. 

Enid is also based on a cashier that Ian saw, and he used to work at a supermarket and wanted to invoke the feeling of looking up to an older worker. He remembered a deadpan cashier not responding so well to a bag boy trying to flirt with her, with an exchange like "How are you today?" "Well I'm HERE, so." Mr. Gar was actually based off of a vice principal he had in high school. One was named Mr. Sandoval, and he remembers watching the yard from the school during science class. He saw two kids trying to cut school and this vice principal ran across the yard to tackle the kids and stop them from cutting class. He figured oh, that's what a real authority figure is like. The science class really had a reaction. You didn't want to have to be under that guy's thumb, but at the same time, that was cool. You just have these moments--you can turn them into characters.

Next question: What would you consider your biggest accomplishment and what are you most proud of?

For Ian, it's tough to say because he reveres getting to work with people he respects and enjoys working with; it's way better for him than winning awards. It's "a continuum of great things and great people." He looks forward to more creative collaboration. 

As for Rebecca, they're proud of breaking down the barriers for LGBTQIA media. Internally, building up to the wedding on "Reunited"--and they were pitching for a full year before they got it through--seeing how the landscape transformed because of that pushing, how wonderful it was that the bigoted notes weren't going to be given to creators anymore. She sees the changes already, even in other studios, and she's really proud of the part they played. Ian acknowledges that even though there are some broken boundaries, the fight is far from over. Creators still have to deal with challenges and push back. Rebecca says a lot of gathering of resources and support had to be done under the radar early on on Steven, but now it's easier to coordinate with other people who are trying to do this in media currently. She's part of the GLAAD Kids and Family media group and can share strategies. She feels healthier now because it's not like it was where they couldn't even talk about it. She hopes the healthiness is brought to the audience as well.

Next question: What advice would you give to queer creators who are seeking to tell queer stories in TV animation?

Rebecca: DO IT! RIGHT NOW! Also take care of yourself. Persevere, push, don't take no for an answer--but it is emotionally exhausting. So take your time and put your mental health above other things. There's a lot of pressure to think about the kids who need this content, what it could do to open doors in the industry, but don't do it at your own expense. You deserve to be healthy. Hopefully this is less true for younger people, but Rebecca felt she did not have that right as a child--to be healthy, to belong. You may feel the audience you're helping is more important than you, but that voice is part of the problem. And if you're okay from that point, push for the biggest, funniest, hugely entertaining content that no one could say no to. 

And Ian thinks confidence is really important in pitching and pushing. Just do it, create characters, don't save it for when you have a project--make it. He also stresses forgiving yourself for not getting it right immediately. Messiness is necessary, accidents are necessary. Rebecca feels that independent comics inspired many of those skills for her. Ian points out that they were both making free comics on their own to tell stories somehow to reflect what they loved. Rebecca says they both just get to a point where they'd think a story in their main work is actually just something they did already in Pug Davis or with Hero (RPG World)--themes keep coming back, through lines will recur. Rebecca recommends quantity--make stuff and see what works.

Next question: Rebecca, on a podcast you once said you had a safe pitch that you could have offered instead of going with SU--what was that other supposedly more marketable show?

Rebecca doesn't remember saying it, though they acknowledge Steven was pitched intentionally with marketability in mind. Ian remembers having a separate space-related show pitch as well as OK K.O.!, but he felt that he wasn't vibing with it while trying to pitch it. They both ended up cramming personal ideas into the show they did get.

Next question: Advice for those trying to work in visual development?

Rebecca thinks it helps just having a lot of personal work. The successful VisDev people Rebecca knows have lots of personal paintings with variety. Build up your portfolio, but don't make it to cater to who you're showing it to. Make art that's what you want to do. It helps to develop your voice so people will seek you out and want you to do your thing in their project. In further discussion, Rebecca says she loves being able to acknowledge different artists having their choices that they love which you can see in multiple pieces. That way you don't say art is good or bad, it's that you agree with choices or don't, and it turns into a conversation almost. Ian thinks that once you understand art as a series of choices, you'll feel less like you love or hate a whole piece of art. You'll also develop a deeper appreciation of someone you love. You might even be able to track the chain of inspiration through various art pieces, including music. You can hear threads in them. Rebecca recommends this approach because that way you can be inspired by someone and reframe it in your own work rather than copying the lines and colors, so to speak.

Next question: Can they discuss the barriers in more detail for LGBTQ issues, and how they navigated the barriers?

Rebecca feels like it really started when they wrote "What Was Missing" on Adventure Time--acknowledging earlier references to a relationship between Bubblegum and Marceline, she talked to Adam Muto about how cool it would be if these two queer ladies used to have a relationship. Rebecca had a hard time writing music about them if the relationship was over, so she wanted to include "juice" and have some beef between them that Marceline wasn’t over. 

It seemed to Rebecca like after the episode was finished, everyone was supporting it, and they felt like Rebecca had figured Marceline out. She had thought there must be something deep inside Marceline that she's covering up with her coolness. But once the episode came out, "a hammer came down" from VERY high, with reprimands and commentary like "don't you understand you work for a company?"--how could they do something so subversive. It was so not allowed to even imply they'd had a relationship. 

Rebecca felt that she had made this character very much like herself, being a bi character, and she knew people online recognized it, but it was getting stomped on. She speaks a little on how she didn’t know at the time that you could still be bi regardless of what your relationship is, and loved that people could tell Marceline was bi. So when she got her own show Rebecca really wanted to keep pushing and wanted to have queer people in a relationship while it's still going on, not already over. 

Fusion as a vehicle to let this relationship happen was very strategic, and they set it up so you couldn't take this out of the show. You already know Garnet, you love her, and then you find out something that explains her and it would be too late to yank this element out of the show. But the same thing happened when the episode was being criticized--higher-ups asked Ruby to be changed to a boy, they said she couldn't be in a relationship with Sapphire, and Ian got reprimanded for confirming their terminology and relationship on Twitter, etc. 

But they could all see that this was important to the audience. They had been validated and knew they were doing the right thing. They had done it for the right people. 

Rebecca mentions how kids, very young people, got what she was doing, even though adults were the ones screaming about it and thinking they had to be protected. Kids had no problem with it. So the younger people's support really made her optimistic and kept her motivated to keep doing it. She didn't want the kids supporting this content to become these adults. 

Ian says Rebecca's work had direct impact. The wedding episode changed everything in Ian's opinion--he had his bi character Enid not be allowed to go on a date early on, but post-"Reunited," the notes they used to get weren't happening anymore. They still had to fight for queer content and got commentary on it, but "Reunited" was a huge example they could point to as acceptable content. You can show queer relationships on TV and the world won't end. Apparently on Clarence, Jeff's moms were not allowed to be called moms before that. They told Rebecca, "If you get a gay wedding, everyone's gonna want a gay wedding." And she said, "great!" Once they were allowed to do it, they couldn't say no. Though . . . well, they do. They still say no.

Which is why coordination is so important, continuing to fight. When they first showed "Jailbreak," same-sex marriage wasn't legal, and when the show started Don't Ask Don't Tell was still a policy. It wasn't until after they left Cartoon Network that LGBTQIA protections were even in existence nationwide. There was actually no GLAAD group for kids and family until after Steven Universe existed. That pushed Rebecca to work harder to get messages out to counter the idea that LGBTQIA content is inherently adult.

At this point, the event is out of time, so the hosts wrap up and thank Ian and Rebecca for being part of this. The end!

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Star Wars’ Handsomest Hand-Me-Down

If I had to list my favorite Star Wars costumes, third place would go to Luke’s dad-rescuing goth number and runner-up to Padme’s meadow dress, but first place would go to something way more obscure: Atton Rand’s jacket.

An image seared into my mind.

KotOR II’s Atton Rand is Star Wars’ baddest Han Solo knockoff, and he’s got the duds to prove it. He’s wearing the same exact pair of pants and sexy cowboy holster, but like any good knockoff he’s added his own little something-something: fingerless gloves, a side part, and of course, those three extra sleeve layers onto the vest. Something about this jacket is so fun and spacey, so silly but so flattering, so dangerous but so approachable -- in a word, handsome. It’s such a shame that you can only find it in one video game...

Or can you? KotORs I and II (2003-4) are clearly inspired by the Star Wars movies that immediately preceded them, Phantom Menace (1999) and Attack of the Clones (2002), with their shared themes of a corrupt Republic, a hypocritical Jedi Order, a cursed Chosen One, capitalist violence, and forbidden love. But the KotORs also had a weirder, more plot-significant influence: those 90s comics I’m always going on about, Tales of the Jedi! In fact, the KotORs are set one generation after TotJ and reference many TotJ characters by name, especially Exar Kun and various Siths.

But back to the jacket -- did Atton make such a beautiful thing himself, or did that no-good pirate steal it right off the corpse of noble comic book character Andur Sunrider?!

The long sleeves and pocket were lost in the confusion.

The resemblance could be a coincidence, but it’s fun to imagine the black market shenanigans that might have transpired between Andur’s murder and Atton’s acquisition. I also love the parallel of the two men: Andur the gallant Jedi teacher, honorable husband and tragic father, versus Atton the AWOL murderer and romantic wastrel who humbles himself as your student and (sometimes) learns his lesson. They even have similar names. Anyway, you know I love to argue that Star Wars comics did it first.

But after Atton followed the Jedi Exile to the ends of the galaxy, what happened to the jacket?

Well, 4000 years passed, and it ended up with someone new:

The sleeves grew back.

DJ from The Last Jedi is the next character, timeline-wise, who has that excessive sleeve thing going on, and he’s exactly the sort of mysterious, debonair trickster who deserves this ancient hand-me-down. I’m sure Andur would not approve, but personally I can think of no more fitting fate for such a legendary garment than with someone who doesn’t join either side.

I’ll add onto this post if I ever find more instances of this sexy design in Star Wars, and I’ll try to imagine how each new owner got it, and how their stories align with the rest of the Sisterhood of the Traveling Jacket.

But let’s give three cheers for Andur Sunrider, who wore it first, and four cheers for Janine Johnston, who designed it.

Addendum:

Snoke’s ribbed robe is a bit too off-model to convince even me that it could be the same jacket, but it’s fun to imagine that DJ could have stolen it right out of the Supreme Leader’s closet. Perhaps the jacket has limited shape-shifting abilities?

Credits:

Promotional art of Atton Rand from 2004. I can’t find the artist’s name, but Wikipedia says I need to credit “Obsidian Entertainment, LucasArts and Disney,” which is better (and worse) than nothing. The lead artist of KotOR II was Aaron Meyers, and the entire art team was Aaron Brown, Brian Menze, Dennis Presnell, Doug Cope, Ed Lacabanne, Glenn Price, Lucas Feld, Mustazar Essa, Timothy Cox, Trent Campbell, TJ Frame, Robert Giampa, Will Harper, and David Espinoza.

The picture of Andur is from “Tales of the Jedi, issue 3: The Saga of Nomi Sunrider, part 1.” Dark Horse. December 1, 1993. Writer: Tom Veitch. Penciller: Janine Johnston. Inker: Mike Barreiro. Letterer: Willie Schubert. Colorist: Pamela Rambo.

Concept art of DJ by Jock (Mark Simpson), from The Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi, written by Phil Szostak, published 2017.

The picture of Snoke is from “The Rise of Kylo Ren” trade paperback. Marvel. August 11, 2020. Writer: Charles Soule. Penciller and Inker: Will Sliney. Letterer: Travis Lanham. Colorist: Guru-eFX.