#discordian magic

[kaccvcate]

consecrated my new outdoor altar with the sacrifice of this virgin pineapple

[donked-up]

oh yeah? what does the crab say???

[khulthuskaotika]

[earc-magus]

E.O.O.T.L.G. Pope card back

HAIL ERIS, HAIL HEKATE, ALL HAIL DISCORDIA

order and disorder, hodge and podge

together forming sacred chao

[cantva190]

Eris Goddes Of Discord and Chaos🍎

[themechanoid99]

IDK WTF I just made. :\

[capncornflake]

WARNING! ACTIVE CURSE IN AREA!

you people REALLY need to stop trampling on my sigils. >:(

this isn't a joke! I have used arcane Discordian magick to protect my sigils with MULTIPLE DEMONIC ATTACHMENTS! these demons are not fucking around, either. they are bored, and they WILL inflict strokes and brain hemorrhages on you if you bother them.

for the last time, I am not responsible for what these things do to you people. you all were warned. all of this is out of my hands. STOP FUCKING WITH THE SIGILS IF YOU DO NOT WANT YOUR CIRCULATORY SYSTEM TO ABRUPTLY FAIL!!!!

[cryptotheism]

Trying to write about the discordians is insane. "yeah they made of conspiracy theories for fun magic reasons, but also one of the guys who wrote principa discordia was involved in the investigation around the assignation of JFK bc he served in the military with Lee Harvey Oswald."

[windvexer]

I actually do think that doing magic takes a lot of work and is kinda hard and there aren't very many good shortcuts, and many modern shortcuts actually just amount to leaving out steps, which means you either have to be powerful enough to brute-force it or it fizzles.

Look, I know some people are just much better at magic and witchcraft; anything they do works with little effort, and the lengths some of us have to go to accomplish magic seems bizarre to them. Those people are cool and I wish I was like them but I'm not.

But I also think some of the truth of how to work effective sorcery gets paved over by these "witchcraft has no rules, do anything you want" support posts.

Because A) that is not true, I believe that witchcraft has lots and lots of rules (it's just that nobody else can tell you what they are), and B) I think do anything you want is taken to mean anything you do should work, which is also not true.

I feel like I always see advice given that you don't need to do things (like use physical tools, or cast circles, or whatever). But I never see anyone explaining the techniques and paths of power that are supposed to replace them.

Let's just imagine for a moment that clear quartz really is a universal substitute. Discordians would say that it totally is. So does that mean all you have to do to sub out clear quartz is to just put it on the altar and do the ritual as if it's something else?

Or do you have to do something more?

Do you have to consecrate the stone as being something other than what it is? Do you have to ritually birth it into a new life and baptize it like a baby? Do you have to spend weeks or months honing your technique of focus and beliefs so that you can mentally shift from consensus reality to a personal reality where there is literally no difference between clear quartz and sodalite?

Do you have to raise energies of sodalite and imprint them into the quartz crystal, perhaps working over it for an extended period of time? Do you have to use energy work to tie the clear quartz into Ideal Sodalite so that it becomes like an avatar?

No, you don't have to use physical tools if you don't want to. But that shouldn't be taken to imply that tools are useless or can be replaced in a way that matters by just visualizing that you have them.

A witch spends six months propitiating a tree, ingratiating themselves with the land, offerings and acts of fealty to the tree, a week-long branch harvesting ritual, blood offerings at midnight on a holy day, then another year curing the wood and crafting a wand. Big effort, right?

And you don't need to do that. But if you want that power, what are you going to do instead?

Same with circle-casting. Same with magic on the full moon. No, you don't have to wait until the full moon. You don't have to wait until the moon is in Libra. But there's a really good reason people do those things. So if you want those effects, what actions can replace those effects?

You literally could not do the spell while the full moon is in Libra. That's fine. But then what will bridge the gap? Will you have to raise more energy somewhere else? Include a new aspect? Modify the spell for the moon you can work with?

"You don't have to follow the moon phase for magic" doesn't mean the moon phase is irrelevant and some witches just like to inconvenience themselves for no reason. But it does mean that you can probably adapt your working to overcome the moon being in the inopportune phase.

Every time I talk about how much time, energy, and effort magic can be I feel like someone always replies, "well, it's just not that hard for me! I do what I want with what I have when I need it and it always just works, with very little effort."

Which I think is very great for them, but I also don't think that most people can get results with such low effort.

So anyway my entire point is that I think sometimes the reason people struggle with getting witchcraft to work is because they are operating off of out-of-context soundbites that make it sound like you can just completely cut out some of these foundational concepts of witchcraft.

Maybe you don't have to accomplish those steps in traditional ways. Maybe you don't need all of those steps for every spell you're doing.

But if you've just cut out swaths of steps only because you heard someone say you don't need them (not because of your own experiments working with magic and determining what works best for you), then is there enough left to constitute a functional system of magic?

[khulthuskaotika]

[earc-magus]

Death to Empire // Death to those who would rewrite our histories // Death to those who would crush our free will and pierce our limbs with their golden teeth

Authority is an illusion. Hierarchies are doomed to collapse. Objectivity is the enemy.

We will win this turn.

Red WILL prevail

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This piece of writing utterly changed my life and continues to do so. https://suspended-annihilation.com/greyface

This art is the product of accumulated emotions amidst my continuing apprenticeship with its author.

(Apologies to my friends who are used to seeing the calmer side of me- I hope you find this sudden ferocity amusing)

[cantva190]

[witchyintention]

Deity Studies: Eris

Lady of Discord, Mirror of Truth, Trickster Muse and Divine Agent of Upheaval

She doesn’t knock. She doesn’t wait for an invitation. She walks into the feast with a golden apple and a grin that says, "Let’s see what shakes loose."

Eris is not here to play nice—and that’s the point. She’s the goddess who stirs the cauldron, the force that reveals hidden fractures by prying them wide open. To some, she’s a villain. To others, a liberator. Either way, she cannot be ignored.

Where Hekate offers torches in the dark, Eris offers a mirror. What you see in it may not be pretty—but it will be true. If you’re ready to court chaos with purpose and a dash of irreverent wisdom, Eris might just be your guide.

Origins & Mythic Roots

Eris hails from the tangled roots of Greek mythology, where she appears in Homer’s Iliad and Hesiod’s Theogony with wildly different vibes.

In Homer, Eris is the goddess of strife on the battlefield. She's a warlike presence who grows stronger as conflict escalates. In Hesiod, though, we meet two Erises: one malicious, sowing pain and war; the other productive, a force that stirs healthy competition and drive. Already, we see her duality—Eris isn’t just about senseless disorder. She’s about the creative and destructive potential of friction.

Her most infamous myth, of course, is the Judgment of Paris. When Eris was excluded from a divine banquet (because who invites the goddess of discord to a party?), she retaliated with a golden apple inscribed “To the Fairest.” That apple sparked a spat between Hera, Athena, and Aphrodite—leading to Paris’s fateful choice and, ultimately, the Trojan War.

The message? Ignore Eris at your peril.

Evolution Over Time

Unlike many Olympian deities, Eris didn’t develop a major cult or widespread worship. She was more of a mythic presence—feared, acknowledged, but rarely invited to the altar. The ancients respected her role in myth but didn’t necessarily want her meddling in their cities.

However, that doesn’t mean she faded away. In later literature and philosophy, Eris became a symbol of necessary disruption. Philosophers like Heraclitus hinted at similar ideas: conflict as the engine of change, strife as the mother of all things.

Then came the 20th century, and with it, a most unexpected revival...

Symbolism & Associations

Eris doesn’t have an official bestiary or defined sacred tools, but her symbolism is potent and sharp:

The Golden Apple: Her calling card. An object of beauty that incites truth-revealing conflict.

Snakes: Sometimes associated with her in modern interpretations, as symbols of upheaval and transformation.

The Mirror: Not a traditional symbol, but apt—Eris reflects hidden desires, motives, and fractures.

Colors: Gold (for the apple), red (for raw energy), and black (for the unknown).

Words and Language: Eris rules the sharp word, the provocative truth, the uncomfortable question.

Eris is not a goddess of tools and trappings. She is an event, a catalyst, an inciting incident incarnate.

Modern Pagan & Occult Views

Enter Discordianism, the tongue-in-cheek (but spiritually resonant) modern religion founded in the 1950s via the Principia Discordia. Here, Eris reigns as a cosmic force of chaos, humor, and paradox.

Discordians view Eris not as malicious, but as liberating—an antidote to authoritarianism, rigidity, and dogma. She embodies the Sacred Chao, the balance of order and disorder, reality and absurdity. In this paradigm, chaos isn’t destruction—it’s creative potential.

Modern witches and magical practitioners outside Discordianism have also begun embracing Eris as a goddess of shadow work, disruption magic, and truth-revealing. She’s invoked in:

Baneful or justice spells to expose hypocrisy or tear down harmful systems.

Shadow work where personal illusions are challenged.

Chaos magic, where Eris serves as a trickster muse.

Eris doesn’t demand worship—she demands awareness. She asks you to stop pretending things are fine when they aren’t. She tears down your inner echo chamber and invites you to look at the rubble.

Pop Culture Presence

Eris makes a few memorable appearances in modern media:

In Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas (2003), she’s portrayed as a seductive, chaotic goddess of mischief and manipulation. It’s flashy, if not particularly nuanced.

In Neil Gaiman’s American Gods (though not named directly), figures akin to Eris show up as personifications of cultural upheaval and trickster energies.

In memes and online culture, she’s often used as a symbol of chaos energy, especially among queer and countercultural circles.

The Discordian “fnord,” the golden apple, and the phrase “Hail Eris!” have all become part of internet esoterica and magical humor—half joke, half invocation.

Reflection/Conclusion

Eris is not for the faint of heart. She is not orderly, safe, or soothing. But she is necessary.

In a world that often demands conformity, silence, and surface-level peace, Eris brings the gift of disruption. Not for destruction’s sake, but to clear the way for what’s real. She is the divine “no” that makes room for a deeper “yes.”

Her magic is the sharp word at the right time, the inconvenient truth, the joke that exposes the emperor’s lack of clothes. She is trickster, teacher, and the whisper behind the curtain that says, “Look closer.”

You don’t summon Eris lightly—but if she shows up uninvited (as she often does), it might be time to pay attention. What needs shaking loose? What truth are you avoiding? What systems—internal or external—need to fall?

She doesn’t want your comfort. She wants your clarity.

Personal Experience

Working with Eris—one of the deities I actively honor at my altar—she brings a unique, playful trickster energy into my life. She isn’t the kind of chaotic force that seeks destruction for the sake of it. Instead, her chaos has purpose. It’s intentional, often aimed at revealing truth, shaking loose old patterns, or pushing you toward necessary growth.

When I find myself leaning into mischief or wanting to stir things up, she doesn’t discourage it—in fact, she encourages it with a smirk, like, “Yes, go on then.” Her energy is lighthearted, even mischievous, but never malicious (can be when she's protective). She feels more like a cosmic instigator with a deep understanding of cause and effect.

Eris has taught me how to navigate chaos with grace, like learning to dance through a storm rather than brace against it. She shows me that not all upheaval is bad—sometimes it's the exact thing we need to wake up or realign with our path. Through her, I've learned how to handle the “tower moments” in life without letting them destroy me. Instead of stressing out or falling apart, I’ve learned to flow with the disruption, find the lesson in it, and come out stronger on the other side.

Working with her is an invitation to embrace the unexpected—not with fear, but with curiosity and even a little bit of fun.

Further Reading

Principia Discordia, by Malaclypse the Younger & Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst

Robert Anton Wilson’s Cosmic Trigger series

Heraclitus fragments (for philosophical context on creative strife)

Peter Carroll, Liber Null & Psychonaut (for Chaos Magic theory)

Adrienne Maree Brown, Emergent Strategy (not about Eris directly, but aligned in ethos)

Modern essays on feminist trickster archetypes and shadow goddesses

Hail Eris. May your apples be golden and your chaos meaningful.

[capncornflake]

The first part of my magnum opus, The Gospel According to Eris, came out today.

It is free. Share it around.

The chaos unleashed by the Apple of Discord only works if everyone gets in on the action. Join me as we launch the most subversive psyop in American history!

Direct link: https://gospeloferis.com/preview/DPH-001.pdf

[sorcererpoet]

I think I forget that gadfly religious movements like this tend to be "grown out of" the way you describe -- my own experience with Chaos Magic is similar.

I also imagine that people who might have been attracted to Discordianism in earlier times are now drawn into Pastafarianism (which is basically a reskin with less LSD).

I just used to see a lot more prominent and obvious Discordian voices, and I don't know if the movement as a whole is in decline or not, or if I'm just becoming An Old who doesn't know where to find people.

Speaking of Discordians, are they still around? I only knew one or two and haven't hears from them in a while, and if they're active online I've moved to different virtual spaces.

Not that I'm wanting to seek any out: Discordianism annoys me on several levels. I'm just curious how influential the movement is these days

[alexthebordercollie]

What are the cutie marks and/or special abilities of the boys?

Archie here is a dragonologist. His cutie mark is a drag curled around a swirl of magic. Both boys have Discord's chaos magic though Archie only uses his fairly sparingly and for practical concerns. He lacks much a chaotic impulse and prefers a nice quiet life like his mother.

Chaos's cutie mark is the sacred chao, the symbol of the Discordian society. A philosophy dedicated to embracing chaos. He got his cutie mark after plunging Equestria into chaos as a young colt and having his magic sealed away in a protective amulet by Celestia. She's agreed to give him his magic back when he proves he can be trusted with it. The true meaning of his cutie mark is still not entirely understood though Discord is very proud.