#dumb plotlines

[thewildnopeboat]

What's a plot line that you love, but want to mangle?

I'll gp first. The guy getting the girl back after she broke up with him, because she finally had the balls to do something different.

Like good lord man. She is a human, no wonder she wants to be treated as such.

[zinnie-zoloft]

Having Five date an alternate timeline version of Lila would have actually been funny and could have lead to way more character development for everyone involved

[ssmokyquartz]

being a doctor who fan has been like living a toxic relationship. it's been consistently awful for the last few years but I can't bing myself to stop watching, I keep expecting that something will change but it just never does

[keepingupwiththeboltons]

My bet on if they cave and add nettles to the show, is that they wont have her pop up behind a rock and suddenly exist and already have claimed sheepstealer, but instead theyll do something insane and stupid and have her claim the cannibal or some shit instead

[archduchessofnowhere]

Sisi and Franz's fight is actually not entirely fictional! Irl FJ indeed didn't allow Elisabeth to go to her father's funeral because he worried for her health. We don't know if she was upset about this however, as by that point her relationship with Duke Max was very cold and distant. But I like that they're drawing inspo from real life for some of their storylines in this episode.

[stormyoceans]

I'VE ONLY NOW NOTICED THEY SHOWED PEEM'S PAINTING WITH THE ROSES ADDED TO IT IN THE PREVIEW FOR NEXT EPISODE FUCK

[scarlct-vvitch]

oh new season of the boys i expected so much from you and got almost nothing

[spidermansballs]

some of yall act like rick is supposed to hang the moon and that hes supposed to be the greatest art on earth and are disappointed and absolute HATERS when the newer books arent good in your opinion, like the whole books weren't just a bedtime story he made up.

[sweetteaandpie]

doing a sanctuary rewatch and still after all these years cannot fathom why ashley was killed off. the writers could have done some other heartwrenching plotline without offing her. it was just so unnecessary and only to replace her with kate.

was it because magnus wasn't the typical mothering type and viewers were complaining about the dynamic?

[bmpmp3]

[guiltylovestar]

just make her transgender why tf they gotta do this type of plotline

[out-of-heaven-and-hell]

At least I'm assuming being gay isn't a sin otherwise the trial with Angels soul would have been pointless if the entire thing could have just been ended with "He's gay nuff said"

[burningdreambanana]

Where was all this energy when Ibrahim cheated on Hatice?

I get that Ibrahim was loved by the dynasty and Rustem wasn't but still cheating on a sultana is an insult to the entire dynasty and no one except Hafsa really cared at all. When you think about how even Dervis being just in love with Handan was considered this massive insult, it's just odd

[kingsofneon]

im soooo fucking sick of people acting like you're heinous if you like the TT03 Lex+Kon retcon, like. Can you get off your high horse? You're not any better than someone else just for a Personal Preference. Holy fuckkkkk

Do I think Geoff wrote it shit? Yeah bruh 😂 the genetic absolution was insane and that's not what a clone is, oh my god. Why were you stupid and why did you explore The most boring possible choices.

But Paul Westfield? Who the fuck even is that anymore, my guys. Don't be acting like comics simplifying plot in order to streamline themes ain't a common thread. And also, I know comics do it bad but people engage with it on such bad faith..."everyone who likes the retcon likes it because of clex!" Nope, next. "It implies Kon is evil because of his genetics!" Yeah that's Geoff's fault and it don't mean that's the part I'm interested in about forcing the relationship between them. There is so much to be explored in the violation of that - Lex wanting a Superman he could control, Lex and his freakshit biodeterminism, Superman and the violation of an enemy, one of his greatest, one of the smartest, can you not imagine the strain? - and then how does it feel to be KON? I'm not talking about genetics - but socially, emotionally, no matter what is said to your face, Kon has learnt judgement from a TV screen, he knows reporters and stories and being in the fucking spotlight. Can you not think about how it adds an extra layer of hurt to the relationships he finds most important?

There's no one-to-one on familial relationships within the superfam, but to act like the Lex retcon does not have the opportunity for fascinating ✨ drama ✨ (LEX HAS SO MANY FUCKING MEDICAL ISSUES. KON DOESN'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT HOW LEX HAS CURED HALF OF THEM.) is an asspull.

Biodeterminism is fucking stupid! That doesn't mean there isn't interesting goddamn plots to explore about HOW OTHER PEOPLE TREAT KON BECAUSE OF IT.

Do I think other stories have told it better (Artemis, Steph, Joey?) Duh. DOES THAT MEAN I DON'T WANNA SEE IT? NO.

Also jfcccccc. It's been canon for longer than the OG SB run at this point. 1994 - 2003 (9 years) and then 2003 to 2025 (TWENTY-TWO. Bitch is old enough to drink).

Have your personal preference. Acknowledge the comics did a shit job actually making it Good. But don't get your panties in a twist if other people want to explore that fucking plot.

[advisortotheadvisor]

love how canis is low-key the "came back wrong" trope but only specifically for Howard Hatchett

like Hatchett very much believed that Tobias Clay was gone, like turned into a monster, no hope of ever seeing him again gone. as dead as he can be with still technically being alive with a magic wolf piloting his corpse

so finding out the man he thought was dead and whose nonexistence forms the basis for the life he's built? who Hatchett could've possibly helped if he'd told a single magic-user in a town full of them that the Big Bad Wolf used to be a human, so there might be a way to change him back? Terrifying. Absolute worst case scenario.

But then...nothing happens. Nobody seems to care that his fairytale is full of lies. Cue the creeping realization that it's not that nobody cares; nobody knows. Tobias hasn't told anyone, can't tell anyone because as far as he knows, Tobias doesn't exist. There's only Canis, who lives with the Grimms and has always been a monster and who looks Hatchett in the eyes without a shred of recognition

Canis is a dead man who came back wrong and for twenty years, Howard Hatchett is the only person knows

[anywhore]

Listen I think she’s great on some routes, but man there’s Way too many routes where belle is just useless and it’s irritating.