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delafiseaseses · 2 months ago

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Dwarf Fortress Ethics

Every faction in Dwarf Fortress is a little alien. A little bizarre. This is easily demonstrated via each factions Ethics values. I won't be recounting the specifics of every ethic (go t' the DF Wiki's Ethics page for the whole table), but I wanna take a moment t' talk Dwarf Fortress Ethics.

The Dwarves are the closest to a Human-ethics and values system in DF. They find torture and cannibalism for any reason both abhorrent, they hate slavery and only approve of trophies made from non-sapient animals (however they find making trophies from non-Dwarves slightly less disgusting than from Dwarves, a mild discrimination unseen in any other faction). Dwarves do, however, have the death penalty and even when they don't put someone to death they can and do order 'hammer strikes' on guilty Dwarves.

Humans, by contrast have an ethics system with a few far more blatantly questionable morals. Including, infamously, believing that the killing of a person not of the faction is 'Justified if no repercussions'. They cannot stand cannibalism and find torture for any reason other than trying to gain 'information' disturbing. They think it's perfectly find to make a trophy from anything you kill, be it another Human, another sapient race or some animal. They find slavery acceptable. Humans engage in capital punishment practices much like the Dwarves. Humans also have a unique trait in which their abstract Cultural Values are varying from faction to faction, but they never have Extreme Views on any given topic (for instance one Human faction can 'greatly prize loyalty' while another in the same world can 'disdain loyalty', but neither can ever have 'the highest regard for loyalty' or be 'disgusted by the idea of loyalty').

Elves are often intentionally misunderstood for 'memes', but their morals are interesting. They believe torture is only good for setting an example and have no capital punishments. What they consider minor crimes get reprimands and extreme crimes lead to exile, unlike everyone else they find the act of lying such an extreme crime as to be worth exile (everyone else sees it as a personal matter). Killing animals is only justified in self-defense, making them vegans as of the Steam Release, and the killing of plants is totally unthinkable (which leads to the occasional war based on the 'treatment of plants'). Elves 'grow' their wooden objects using an unknown process. Now, to the big misunderstood thing, Elves find cannibalism unthinkable, they cannot stand cannibalism, they find cannibalism as bad as Dwarves and Humans do... except if the person has been killed in a battle. In that case it seems they feel obligated to eat the slain. The reason for this practice is unknown, but that's what they do.

Goblins... to describe the 'Evil'-type Civs as having an ethics is kinda silly. They see literally everything one might consider a crime as a personal matter, require the killing of other faction populations and animals, accept trophies from anything exactly like Humans, cannibalism is always fine for them, torture is fine even if you're just doing it for fun and on animals. It is quite common for those in Goblin-civs to kill other Goblin-faction people for no reason or to steal an artifact. The only crime in Goblin society is 'treason', which is a death sentence. Outside of ethics Goblin-civs create horrific displays with the people of conquered lands people. They also have the act of Child Snatching, in which a Goblin-civ person goes somewhere with a bag and kidnaps a child. The child is then raised Goblin, adopting Goblin ethics and Goblin values. This is seen as an innocuous job just like any other. Due to Goblin psychology discrimination in-faction cannot exist. They also often gain Troll populations, which they shear for clothes. The Trolls seem to be full-citizens as well as essentially sheep.

The Kobolds are the only people who have non-applicable factors in their ethics. Due to their lack of a formalised language, as they communicating via 'contextual' sounds whatever that means, they cannot torture for information, lie or oath break. They also cannot steal or trespass by their own metrics as they do not seem to have the concept of property. This lack of understanding is possibly what drives them to Thieve from other Civs. They find slavery, cannibalism for any reason and the making of trophies utterly unthinkable (they will, however, steal trophies made of anything). Assault is seen as a personal matter and killing people of other factions is required (however, Kobolds often run away from conflict regardless of this). Torture for fun is acceptable, but it presumably has to be inflicted on a person as the torture of animals is unthinkable (killing an animal is fine, though). Kobolds only really have one crime, which is the killing of another of the faction and the punishment is exile.

Each Civ has further nuance, of course, this is mostly an overview of their Ethics with a few additional facts sprinkled in. For further reference on the Ethics of Dwarf Fortress characters look at the DF Wiki's Ethics page.

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urfavstargirl · 2 years ago

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inner man challenge! (´｡• ᵕ •｡`) ♡

hey babes!! okay, i know i said i was going on break but i got this sudden inspiration and yk i had to make a post!! so this challenge is called the inner man challenge, because it's all about fulfilling your inner man and staying in the wish fulfilled!!

WHAT IS THE GOAL FOR THIS CHALLENGE? ★

making the state of the wish fulfilled your dwelling state

fulfilling your inner man

falling in love with imagination

not caring about the 3d

FIRST STEP! ★

this is crucial! remove the intention of manifesting to be for getting in the 3d!!! "but girl.. the whole point of manifesting is to get it in the 3d" okay yes, if u want to believe that i can't change your mind. but to get it in the 3d we need to be fulfilled, and you can't be in the SOWF if you are still trying to get it! read this if ur still confused <3

me personally i feel like the reason why some people don't get results from methods, challenges etc is because they are doing the method to get it in the 3d, not to feel fulfilled. but thats just me 🤷🏾‍♀️

SECOND STEP! ★

now for the fun part, decide what you want!! df, db, sp, a billion bucks in ur account, being the smartest of ur class, moving out of your paren'ts home, getting into your dream college, literally go wild!!

THIRD STEP! ★

fulfill your inner man when your inner man needs fulfilling! if something bad arises in the 3d that shakes ur confidence, fulfill!

having the urge to look in ur bank account to see if you have a billion bucks? close your eyes, imagine your inner man looking at her bank account and seeing the numbers go up by the second!

one of your family members makes a comment about how ugly you are?? would your inner man care?? NO! bc she's fine asf!

if anything 'bad' happens in the 3d, imagine your inner man saying "uh.. thats cute but i'm living my dream life rn sooo.."

WAIT, IS THERE A SCHEDULE? ★

there's no schedule to this challenge!! no "in the morning say 1409834 affirmations, in the afternoon vaunt for 3 hours, in the night do starfish position and affirm for the void" NO!! literally just fulfill your inner man when ur inner man needs fulfilling!!

"don't force yourself to do a method you don't want to do! don't force yourself to visualize the same scene someone else even though it doesn't create any feeling of knowing inside of you and feels like a chore to you. don't repeat affirmations if you don't want to and don't repeat an aff you don't resonate with. do what you think is fun! and do what feels natural to you! by taking the pressure of being perfect off yourself, it's easier to imagine in order to experience, rather than to get it in your 3d." - @remcycl333

HOW DO I STAY IN THE STATE OF WISH FULFILLED THE ENTIRE DAY? ★

no need to stay in the SOWF the entire day, we are always changing states! for example, right now you're in the state of reading this post, and i am in the state of writing this post. it's all about making the SOWF your dwelling state! so if you accidentally stay in the state of lack 7 times but you are in the SOWF 8 times, then the SOWF is your dwelling state! (btw don't count the times you enter a state lmao)

ANYTHING ELSE? ★

get off tumblr, just delete the app.. like this place is literally just making you overconsume. you have better things to do!

if you have a negative thought don't spiral and think all your progress has gone to waste. breathe in and out, your inner man has it and that's all that matters.

have fun!! this challenge isn't like other challenges (soo quirky i know 😜), it's meant to fulfill you instead of making you stress about the 3d. make fun scenarios in your head, vaunt, just have a good time!!

WHEN you get successes (whatever you consider to be a success: feeling that your inner man is fulfilled, or getting it in the 3d) send it to me or make a post about it using #star's-inner-man-challenge!

if you have any questions let me know in my inbox, bye yall!! 💞

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troutfur · 28 days ago

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Here is a free idea for anyone wanting to make the Dark Forest less like a Christian Hell and give the Clans more flavorful holidays and celebrations: A Clan cat holiday based on the Buddhist Hungry Ghost Festival.

It goes thusly:

Every year, during the South Asian monsoon season, Buddhist monks do an intensive three month silent meditation retreat. At the conclusion, when the monks once again mingle with the laity, there is a huge party with lots of food being offered to the monastic community. This is a form of creating lots of good karma, which in turn is dedicated through prayers for the welfare of one's ancestors, and in particular those reborn as pretas (often translated to English as "hungry ghosts", incorporeal beings with bloated stomachs but needle-like mouths, incapable of eating anything but the most disgusting bodily fluids except when someone dedicates their good karma for their benefit).

The idea of the DF being a place with no prey, as opposed to StarClan's easy hunting, is already present in canon. So presenting them as perpetually starving like hungry ghosts would be a natural extension of that. Further, adopting the idea of the Hungry Ghost Festival gives cats with notorious evil relatives an outlet to memorialize their family in a socially acceptable way. You are not honoring them the way you would a StarClan cat, you are demonstrating pity for their post-mortem condition.

It also gives the meddies a festival where they can be appreciated and honored for their efforts. Perhaps in place of a three month meditation retreat there is some other form of sacred duty. For example, it could be all-night prayer vigil, performed at a time thought of as particularly liminal and during which the veil between worlds is thinner, like an equinox or solstice. Or it could be a period of fasting during which they train their bodies to be more resilient. Or it could be during a particular period during which they study the stars and draw up charts with predictions of the future in the coming season.

Whatever it is, I think it works for the world and society in a way that makes the worldbuilding more colorful. I don't know if I'd use this concept myself (perhaps for that Warriors with Buddhist cosmology idea I keep playing with...), but I am releasing it out into the world in case any of y'all has any space in their WIPs for it.

#warrior cats #wc #warrior cats au #worldbuilding

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bbcphile · 1 year ago

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The Yin Leaves Threat Is a Bluff (MLC Meta)

Mysterious Lotus Casebook fans: Are we ready to talk about how the yin leaves threat was a bluff?

So many people seem to be taking Di Feisheng at his word that he wanted to make Li Xiangyi eat the yin leaves of the Wangchuan flower to regain his martial arts for one last glorious fight and that he was fine with Li Xiangyi dying very painfully from their poison after. And I see why: after all, LLH took him at his word, too, and LLH is famously smart and a good detective.

However, LLH has a history of jumping to false conclusions about DFS and, like the rest of the jianghu, assuming the worst of him: in fact, his mistaken belief that DFS broke the peace treaty and had his shixiong killed is the central misunderstanding that nearly destroyed both their respective sects and each other. So, since LLH is canonically very bad at telling who actually wants him dead and who loves him, it’s worth investigating this further. And looking at DFS’ history of bluffing is a good place to start.

DFS and Bluffing

Di Feisheng has a history of bluffing and/or threatening to kill or torture people when he doesn’t mean it. Here are some of his most notable examples (but click here for a much longer list of things he’s lied about or withheld info about):

Threatening to kill Qiao Wanmian to convince LLH to let him find a cure for Bicha (he doesn’t kill women)

Threatening to torture Gao Qian for information (he searches rooms instead)

Threatening to kill FDB when LLH says he’s trouble (the smirk after shows he was joking)

Threatening to kill Xiao Zijin at the wedding if LLH doesn’t help him get into 188 prisons (LLH walks him into a trap and yet DFS doesn’t even try to hurt XZJ in the fight)

Lying about poisoning and curing QWM to protect LLH’s identity and pretending to kidnap her

In all of those examples, DFS is trying to help or protect LLH, albeit in a very dysfunctional way. In the first example, he’s trying to blackmail LLH into living; the second example is to solve the case to find Shi Hun to expel the Asura Grass so he can find a cure for Bicha; the third is a joke, but also one designed to make LLH admit he does care about FDB because LLH is pretending he doesn’t care about anything as a prelude to giving up once he finds SGD’s body; the fourth is to get evidence that someone framed the Jinyuanmeng so LLH will trust him again and want to live to figure out who really killed his shixiong; and the last is to protect LLH’s identity (even though he only agreed to protect it until the Asura Grass was expelled. He’s trying to prove to LLH that LLH can trust him and he wants to help him, not harm him.)

All that to say: DFS has a history of bluffing about threatening to kill people if he thinks it will help Xiangyi live, and will take on the role of the villain—role the jianghu regularly casts him in—if he thinks it will help. And as some of those examples show, he also doesn’t share his plans with LLH until after the plan has been completed. And just look at all the things DFS withheld from LXY at their first donghai battle if you need more examples: he doesn’t mention that he knows it’s a frame job or why he stole SGD’s body. In all these examples, it’s not just that DFS has control issues and doesn’t want to share theories until he has proof: it seems likely that he knows/assumes LXY wouldn’t have believed him, because LLH already proved he didn’t trust him when he fell for the frame job, broke the peace treaty, and attacked the Jinyuanmeng. DFS assumes that there’s no point in presenting information to someone who won’t listen to it; he’d think it’s a waste of time and energy that could be better spent actively solving the problem.

But Why Bluff About the Yin Leaves?

Yao Mo’s Questionable Loyalty:

When DFS says he just needs LLH to live long enough to compete with him, he’s not talking to LLH himself: he’s talking to Yao Mo. In fact, the entire yin leaves plan was Yao Mo’s idea. And that changes everything.

Why? Well, for starters, Yao Mo is the one who invented the Bicha poison and gave it to JLQ to use on LXY (without DFS’ knowledge or permission). That alone is reason enough for DFS to not know if he can trust him, and this lack of trust explains why DFS never told Yao Mo that the mystery patient was LXY/LLH or that he was poisoned by Bicha. Since JLQ poisoned LXY because DFS paid so much attention to him and to fighting with him, it makes sense that DFS would try to protect LLH by hiding his identity and not drawing attention to him.

But of course, as soon as Yao Mo figures out the mystery patient was poisoned with Bicha, that secret is blown. The pained face (and Throat Bob of Emotion) DFS makes while Yao Mo is having this realization shows not only how upset he is that they don’t yet have a cure, but also how worried he is that Yao Mo now knows it’s LLH, which makes everything more complicated.

DFS was right that Yao Mo would figure it out, since the first thing Yao Mo does after this realization is tell DFS he’s thought of a way “to heal him so he can compete with you.” DFS had pointedly NOT mentioned competing with him in front of Yao Mo yet (to hide LLH’s identity), so this is definitive proof that his cover is blown and that DFS needs to find a new way to keep LLH safe.

This new plan is to downplay how much LLH means to him, and that motive explains so much about this scene. We know from watching him grieve and tear up while mourning LLH at his personal waterfall after his enthronement ceremony that DFS is miserable because of LXY’s supposed death and that he doesn’t see the point in fighting anymore without him, so we know that one last fight with LXY wouldn’t fix that: he’d still be dead and DFS would still be devastated.

(Here are some screenshots of him mourning at the waterfall.)

But this isn’t common knowledge. In fact, it seems to be a closely guarded secret; he’s mourning in private, with only Wuyan as a witness. In public and to the rest of his subordinates, he’s trying to project the attitude of the unemotional, unflappable, heartless demon of the jianghu because his reputation is part of his armor that keeps him safe. It lets him seem like he doesn’t have any weaknesses (since “a swordsman shouldn’t have weaknesses”), and it keeps people from knowing that his primary weakness (other than the mind control bug) is LXY/LLH.

(NOTE: He’s not even comfortable with anyone other than Wuyan and the three kings knowing he cares more about reaching the pinnacle of martial arts than he does about the Jinyuanmeng itself, and it’s not clear if any of them know that he mainly wants to increase his strength and power to free himself from the mind control bug. That’s how closely he guards his vulnerabilities.)

With that in mind, if he wants to keep Yao Mo (and therefore JLQ) from knowing how important LXY is to him, there’s only one possible answer to Yao Mo’s question about whether he’d mind if LLH dies from the yin leaves after the fight: pretending he wouldn’t object. If he said he’d give up a fight rather than let LLH die from the yin leaves, then Yao Mo would know LLH matters to him more than fighting, which would be revealing a weakness. If DFS said he would give the entire Wangchuan flower to LLH to cure him and would therefore be sacrificing his chance of getting stronger, it would be painting an even larger target on LLH’s back and showing Yao Mo that endangering LLH would be the key to controlling him. The only safe option for both LLH and DFS is for DFS to claim he doesn’t care if LLH dies after they fight and to give orders to find the flower.

Here’s a gif of his command about the Wangchuan flower:

Notice his furrowed brow, the tightness around his eyes and mouth, the way he’s almost wincing as he gives the order? He is miserable about having to play this game and his incredible poker face is barely up to the task.

Here’s a still image of right after the pronouncement; you can still see the barely suppressed wince.

After this command, he dismisses Yao Mo from the cave immediately so he doesn’t have to keep pretending he’s going to sacrifice LLH. The entire time Yao Mo is present, even while he’s walking away, DFS holds himself completely motionless, staying in character from the bluff and desperately waiting to be alone with LLH. The instant Yao Mo is gone, DFS slumps in relief, or at least, does his version of a slump: he bows/droops his head as though the weight of what just happened was too much to shoulder.

Here’s a close-up of his reaction:

DFS’s relief at being alone with LLH shows that he believed LLH knew him well enough to know when he was bluffing.

He was wrong.

LLH: Believing the Worst of DFS (again)

LLH’s belief that DFS wants to kill him for a duel makes sense, since at this point, he still thinks DFS did in fact have SGD killed and broke the peace treaty, and he’s pissed off, feeling betrayed, and also in pain (from the medicine and the Beifeng Baiyang transfer that made him cough up blood, and from all the snake bites–he’s primed to read those as exclusively aggressive and cruel attempts to heal him at all costs for the fight, and not to realize that DFS would absolutely do all these things to himself to heal his own martial arts without batting an eye. And he’s in too much pain to see the horrified look on DFS’s face when LLH coughs up blood and DFS realized he almost killed LLH while trying to cure him.)

But that doesn’t mean LLH is right.

DFS, upon seeing that LLH has again cast him as the heartless villain, doesn’t try to dispute it. In the same way that he didn’t explain about why he took SGD’s body at the donghai battle, he doesn’t explain himself about the flower, possibly because he thinks he doesn’t have time to waste arguing. His goal is to get LLH to live–he grieved him for a decade, after all, and doesn’t want to have to do it again–and he is painfully aware that he is running out of time. LLH hasn’t exactly been subtle about only staying alive to find and bury SGD’s body, and now that they’ve accomplished that, he wants to make sure LLH doesn’t give up. Growing up in Di Fortress, DFS probably learned how to recognize what it looks like when people give up on life, and seeing those signs in LLH would explain some of the desperation behind his actions.

So, what does he do instead of trying to convince LLH the threat was a bluff? Here’s a gif of his response:

He swallows his disappointment at being thought a heartless killer–bowing his head again and shaking it, then looking up at the cave roof in exasperation–and takes a long, long inhale to collect himself and to quickly brainstorm a new plan. Once he’s figured it out, he says LXY’s name and launches into stage 2 of his plan to convince LLH to live: correcting the initial misunderstanding that first led LLH to not trust him anymore.

DFS tries to convince LLH that someone conspired against both of them a decade ago–the truth he thought LXY wouldn’t believe him about on the ship–because if that worked, then it would solve two problems: 1. LLH might believe him that he doesn’t want to kill him for the rematch if he knew he hadn’t had SGD killed, and 2. LLH would choose to stay alive to find SGD’s real killer and get revenge.

And when LLH doesn’t believe his initial attempt, he gives what is possibly his longest speech in the entire show detailing the evidence supporting his claim that they were both set up and offers to help him find the truth in exchange for their rematch. While he definitely does want a rematch, DFS mentions it here in part because LLH thinks it’s all he cares about; if he were to offer to help without requiring the fight, LLH would be less likely to believe him and even more suspicious of his claims, especially since LLH currently thinks DFS would kill him for said rematch.

But unfortunately, his plan for them to team up fails as he thought it would all those years ago, so he decides to play along with being the heartless villain LLH thinks he is, and it’s only then that he threatens to kill FDB (revealing FDB’s parentage in the process), because he knows that LLH would stay alive to protect FDB.

I have another 2000+ words worth of thoughts about his talk and fight with FDB–the way he tries to “kidnap” him first instead of fighting him, the way he looks miserable during the fight instead of enjoying it the way he did during the fight at QWM and XZJ’s wedding–but it will have to wait for another meta because this is already way too long as it is. The point, though, is that he’s not fighting FDB because he wants to or is enjoying hurting him: he actually hates every second of it and of performing the role of jianghu villain LLH has once again cast him in. But he’s doing it because he thinks it’s the only way to keep LLH alive.

These aren’t the actions of someone who just wants to sacrifice his old rival for a fight; they’re the actions of someone trying everything he can think of to keep the person he loves alive. It’s an incredibly convoluted way to show his care, but given that he’s desperate, out of time, and can’t get LLH to trust or believe him, it makes sense that he’d fall back on a reliable skillset that’s kept himself alive despite all the odds: bluffing, keeping his true goals a secret, adopting the mantle of villain, and letting himself be hated for things he hasn’t done.

With both the fight with FDB and with the yin leaves threat, DFS plays the villain to try to force LLH to live, because he’d rather LLH hate him and live than love him and die.

Because Di Feisheng has never wanted Li Xiangyi–or Li Lianhua–dead.

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yuikomorii · 10 months ago

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🍓🎀Hi! I think in one of the post somebody ask you who is smarter, Ayato or Yui? And i think you reply saying that both are dumb and stupid lol but one is dumb and the other is stupid?? Lmaoo I can’t remember how exactly was, but what’s that supposed to mean? Like is Ayato smarter than Yui or reverse? Because I remember Ayato having his cool smart moments lol I just want to know who is the most smartest between these two dumb ppl lol 😂 🎀🍓

// Oh, you mean this post?

The reasons why I said Ayato is dumber than Yui and Yui is more stupid than Ayato are the following:

Basically a dumb person is someone unwise, impulsive and unknowledgeable/uneducated. They act that way not necessarily because of a lack of mental capacity or learning ability, but due to the fact that they don’t know any better or they DON’T want to know any better.

For instance, in CL, before regaining his memories, Ayato impulsively tried to fight Shu and Reiji on his own but was easily overpowered, leaving him injured. Once he realized the consequences of his actions, he became much more cautious, especially after his memories returned, to avoid putting himself or Yui in danger again. Another scene shows Yui offering to tutor Ayato, however, she was surprised by the fact that he learnt how to solve the problems very fast and that he got all his test answers right.

Credit to: dialovers-translations on tumblr

A stupid person is someone with a lack of intelligence or learning ability. They might not be always dense, but they are supposed to know better, yet they choose to do the wrong thing deliberately.

For example, there’s the pool scene in Ruki’s MB and the lake scene in one of Subaru’s short stories, where Yui jumps into the water despite admitting she can't swim, putting herself in danger. Another moment occurs in Carla’s LE route when Carla warns Yui not to trust Kino because he might be evil, yet in the very next chapter, Yui casually reveals Carla’s Endzeit to Kino, leading Kino to attempt to kill Carla. There are many more moments like these, but I think these examples are enough to prove the point.

It’s quite common to see Japanese players complain about Yui’s poor learning ability. I feel like DL fans already got used to that, but I get that it can indeed become frustrating. xD

Aside from that, Ayato tends to be more objective than Yui. While he feels bad and shows compassion when it's warranted, he mostly sees things for what they are. Even though he sympathized with Cordelia in DF, he doesn't feel the need to sugarcoat her actions. Yui, on the other hand, is the type to quickly change her opinion about someone or something as soon as she hears a sob story. I get it when it comes to the Diaboys, but she actually tried to justify Cordelia’s and Karl’s actions, which honestly left me speechless.

Taking everything into account, it’s quite hard choosing which one is smarter, but I do believe that Ayato has a better learning ability and more potential, it’s just that he doesn’t want or know how to use it. I think the only reason why Rejet keeps writing him dumb is because Japanese fans find that type of idiot cute, as seen here.

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uusercatt367 · 11 months ago

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Hey what's your favorite outfit and wedding dress that Yui ever wore

Hello!^^

I’ve said it already many times but my fav Yui game outfit is for sure the LP one ( it’s kinda a tie between the DF one but if I’ll have to choose than the LP one wins )

I guess it’s the colors and the aesthetic of it overall that rlly caught my eyes and I’m rlly just into jackets / hoodies, The dress makes her look more feminine but with the jacket on there’s also something tomboyish about her and I rlly love it!

Now my fav wedding dress is not from the games but come on, it’s obviously the wedding dress from her princess collection ( used one of my old drawings tho as an example, I know that it’s different from the original but back then I rlly didn’t know how she will end up looking and she still ate and left no crumbs 🙌‼️)

‼️Plus in the game I don’t really have a favorite wedding dress of her buttt I have to say that in Subaru’s MB ending / After story I don’t remember what it was but can we talk about how freaking beautiful she looks , you can’t see much of her dress but that high bun and flowers and her open back makes her look like a goddess I swear, Subaru is a lucky one ( I promise I’m not jealous 😓)

In the end tho, she still looks pretty in anything that she wears even if she would show up in a potato sack I’ll would still fall in love with her🗣️🔥

#(( Shes the definition of Feminine beauty ‼️))#diabolik lovers #yui komori #dialovers #komori yui #diabolik lovers fandom

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superbecky · 10 days ago

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Deltarune Chapter 3 Secret Boss, In Depth Guide! (Spoilers Below!)

I finally after several hours of trying managed to beat Deltarune's secret boss for chapter 3! Throughout fighting the boss many, many times, I discovered and developed some helpful tricks and tips that I thought might be cool to share for those who may still be (or have yet to be) struggling with the boss!

In this guide I will provide what I entered the fight with (Inventory/Stats/Armor), give general tips and provide visuals/explanations for each attack and how I went about them.

Spoilers below (including screenshots!)

PART 1: ITEMS

TVDinner, ReviveMint, and DeluxeDinner were essential for me during this boss fight. I highly recommend fully getting stocked up on these items because of how strong the healing is from them (they heal 100 and 140hp). If I remember correctly, the TVDinner and DeluxeDinner are available from the vending machine found in the Green Room. Having the Clubswich was also very helpful for me as this item gives a small amount of hp for your entire team.

PART 2: WEAPONS AND ARMOR

You should be using your best available weapons on all the characters. Even if you, like myself, are doing a "pacifist run", as far as I am aware this fight does not allow you to spare the enemy and you must fight the boss to win. Here are my main recommendations:

Kris

Saber10: I won this item for getting S-Rank, but there is also a vending machine that you can buy it from.

Put on the strongest items you have that help with either attack and/or defense. Make those numbers as strong as possible. I got the TennaTie (which gives you +5 DF) from doing the gotcha machine a few times. I have seen some people suggest putting on Kris the items Spike Band and Twin Ribbon (I did not have these items, but still won without them).

Susie

Shadow Mantle: This item is essential for winning this fight (unless you... wanna do the fight where you can get killed by 1 hit). I highly suggest that you put this item on Susie because she will be the main damage dealer. If you don't know, the Shadow Mantle helps protect against attacks from the boss.

Jevilstail: It gives you a +2 gain for attack, defense and magic.

Toxic Axe: You can get this weapon from a vending machine.

Ralsei

Dealmaker: This item helps with Ralsei's DF and Magic.

Flex Scarf: Notice how my Ralsei doesn't have it? Yeah, I either bought it and forgot to put it on, or I just never got one- oops! You should be able to find this weapon in a vending machine.

I have seen people suggest you give Ralsei the Twin Ribbon item, but I did not have that item and instead I used RoyalPin because it increases both defense and magic.

PART 3: INFORMATION AND STRATEGY

Ok, let's get into the action now!

Well... ok I firstly want to start off by going over some helpful information and general tips.

Both Susie's and Ralsei's hp will be dropped down to -999 if they are downed. Kris however only drops to -80. Because of this, if you find that Kris goes down then I suggest not using a ReviveMint on them and instead use a TVDinner or DeluxeDinner to bring them back to the fight. Yes, they will have a small amount of hp, but I found that it was just overall a waste to use the ReviveMint on them when I could instead use a less valuable item. Heal them and anyone for that matter on turns where you feel that you can basically not get hit by the boss.

Using Susie's Rude Buster attack is key to this fight. You need to try to use it whenever you can. It is very important that during this fight you try to build up your TP as much as you can so that you can use it every round or every other round. Also, remember that if you tap "Z" right before her Rude Buster attack hits an enemy, then the attack hits harder!

Do not waste your TP using Ralsei's heal unless you are completely out of heals or if you have enough TP to spare. For example, I found myself able to get the TP bar up to 100% a few times, which meant if I needed to I could use his healing and also manage to use Rude Buster the same turn.

Easier said than done, but obviously it is very important that you avoid getting hit as much as possible, especially during the beginning of the fight. If I found myself making little mistakes and ending up with too low of hp before the 4th attack (the line of swords), then I would sometimes just give up that run to get a new, fresh start again in preparation for the harder attacks that I knew I could not dodge perfectly. Basically, I was able to have runs where the first 3 attacks I was not getting hit at all, which then meant I knew I had hp to spare for the line of swords attack (which I knew I would get hit from a few times). This was important for me to having a good start into the fight.

You do not need Kris and Ralsei to hit every turn with Susie. Her Rude Buster does enough damage on its own. If there is a turn where you can not make Susie use her Rude Buster, and you feel comfortable enough to, then make Susie do a normal attack and have Ralsei attack with her. Ralsei does more damage than Kris does in this fight... unless Kris is the only one alive. Kris will deal much more damage if they are the only one standing, but I honestly don't think that matters too much because you want Susie alive for this fight and to be doing the fighting, not Kris.

Kris and Ralsei should be supporting Susie in this fight by either using healing items if needed or by defending to help build up TP for Susie. They can also be used to help attack if you think you won't get hit badly during an attack to where they would get downed. Make Kris and Ralsei defend during attacks you struggle with. I went too long in this fight not realizing how helpful them defending was to my survivability. You do not need to be a master at dodging everything- Kris and Ralsei can take a few hits if you make them defend.

For me I found that I needed to wait to heal and revive the team only when I knew the upcoming attack was one that I wouldn't get hurt from or if I knew I possibly would only get hurt a little bit. You run the risk of a teammate getting killed again if you revive/heal them before an attack that you are bad at dodging.

I found that skill and luck are big factors for this fight. You need to be good at dodging the attacks as best you can. There is room for small error, but not much. Luck plays a factor too because sometimes the way the attacks are thrown at you are easier to dodge in some runs than others.

I found that lots of the damage I was taking was from moving too quickly during the fight. Many of the attacks are much slower than they may first appear- remember to try not to rush too much and take your time with some of the attacks.

PART 4: THE FIGHT

Alrighty! Let us get into the real action now! I will do my best to explain how I went about each attack and tips I have for them.

Firstly, I found it was very helpful that I wrote down each attack/named it. This was helpful because not only after doing the fight so many times was it all starting to melt into my brain and I was forgetting everything, but it helped me to know when I had an easy attack coming up so that I could use heals if needed or attack with all 3 characters.

Here is how I wrote down the attack order/small descriptions for each:

Snow 1 (The first "snowflake" attack)

Sword Throw 1 (The swords that turn red and then are thrown at you)

Tooth 1 (The part where you have to dodge what looks like falling teeth or icicles)

Line Sword (The part where a line of swords on top and bottom go at you in a wavy motion)

Slash 1 (The red slashes. Easiest version of it.)

Snow 2 (The second "snowflake" attack. Is just like the first one)

Tooth 2 (Is like Tooth 1 but now the direction you are facing can be changed at any time)

Circle Sword (Is like the Line Sword attack but the swords come at you in a more circular motion)

Sword Throw 2 (The same attack but this time you also are surrounded by circling swords that block how much you can move)

Slash 2 (Harder than slash 1 but in general is the same)

Snow 3 (Starts off like snow 1 and 2 but at the end of the attack you have to dodge bullets that spawn and try to follow/hit you).

Tooth 3 (Is worse than tooth 2 as now you deal with the attack sometimes being diagonal)

Slash 3 (Harder than Slash 2 and at the end of it there is an attack that is a lot like one Sans has).

The Final Attack

In my winning run, this is the exact order of how attacks went, but in the runs where I was not dealing enough damage then sometimes this order would be different. From what I have seen watching other people fight this boss, Slash 3 should be the "final attack" before the actual big final attack as long as you have been dealing enough damage.

Ok, let's now finally move to my strategy (tips) for each attack and how my run went! As a heads up, I played this game on PC so I may be describing certain actions in regards to using a keyboard.

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ATTACK 1: Snow 1

My Actions: I made everyone attack together because I knew I could dodge this attack easily. I viewed this attack as a freebie and not as a threat.

Strategy: Stay to the left of the box. Keep holding down your left arrow key to stay right against the box (you get moved otherwise) and simply move up and down as needed to avoid the "snowflakes". After the snowflakes start to slow down and turn red, try to get to as blank of a space as possible before they explode. After they explode I found I barely needed to move away from the bullets and that sometimes, even if they seemed to touched me, I was not damaged. I was very lucky because during this run my open space to run to before the explosion was um... very generous haha.

ATTACK 2: Sword Throw 1

My Actions: I made everyone attack because once again I knew I could easily dodge this attack, so I might as well try to get in the extra damage that I could before I had to switch to making Kris and Ralsei defend.

Strategy: During this attack it may feel like it comes at you fast, but it really doesn't. You do not want to move too quickly during this part. There should be enough time for you to observe which sword has spawned in and which direction you will need to move before the sword is thrown at you. Remember that the direction the sword is facing is the direction of which it is going to come at you.

It would be much more beneficial if I could provide a small video for this attack but... I can not do that right now so... take the image instead!

In this image I am currently moving left to avoid the attack from below, while also noticing the attacks to my right. After a while of attempting and learning how to dodge these, I learned that I would need to then move up to dodge the second sword, and then in a diagonal motion to avoid the third sword (though sometimes I went in the wrong diagonal motion and end up being directly hit).

ATTACK 3: Tooth 1

My Actions: This is around where I know now I will run the risk of taking damage (I struggle a little bit with this attack), so I stop making Kris and Ralsei attack with Susie and instead make them defend in order to build up TP and keep them alive as best I can. I have enough TP so now I start the motions of making Susie doing the main damage by doing Rude Buster.

Strategy: I mainly was getting hurt from this attack by either not having enough time to move out of the way of a "double tooth" coming at me, or because I was moving too fast. Once again, try not to move too fast because otherwise you run the risk of just running into the attack and not avoiding it. Seriously, just try to do little movements for the most part.

ATTACK 4: Line Sword

My Actions: Made Kris and Ralsei defend because I knew I would be getting hit a few times. Made Susie do Rude Buster.

Strategy Part 1: I moved all the way to the left side so that way I had less to look at (this attack has lots of motion which makes it hard to see everything clearly). I have seen some people suggest to only look at your soul and not focus on the swords... but for me I found that it really helped to look slightly past my soul to the right. This helped me because then I was instead able to slightly make out the way the swords were moving and I could move then in accordance to that. The purple "X" I drew roughly shows where I was looking during this attack.

Strategy Part 2: After this is the part where a bunch of red lines show up and then swords are thrown at you. I hate this part. It is very unforgiving and even if you end up in a blank spot where you think you will be safe, the swords can still manage to hit you because they are so chunky. My main tip for this part is to try to go to as big of an empty spot as you can so you don't have to worry about that problem. Though... I often found myself struggling to do so because your reaction time has to be super quick during this part, and my brain just automatically is like "oh there is a blank space, hurry go to it!".

ATTACK 5: Slash 1

My Actions: Because my hp was in a very good spot and because I felt confident enough, I decided to make Kris and Ralsei attack. I also of course made Susie do Rude Buster. Low key I had the hardest time dodging these kind of slash attacks out of all of the attacks during the entire fight, but with this one being the easiest of them I knew that I had an opening to try to get some extra damage in.

Strategy: For dodging this attack, I found that I would mainly be getting hit from moving too much. Keep in mind the slash marks don't stay still, they move too a little bit after forming. Try not to move too much or too quickly. The biggest help I found was literally just moving diagonally up/right and then diagonally down/left for each slash. This helped because depending on where your soul is the next set of slashes spawn there. So, if you are far in one corner then the opening for dodging becomes bigger as you move to the other corner. Sometimes I would still get hit... but regardless I found that doing that had helped me. Hopefully the visual I provide shows what I am trying to explain better!

ATTACK 6: Snow 2

My Actions: Basically a freebie attack again for me because I had no problems for the most part dodging this one. That meant that if at this point I needed to revive or heal a team mate, now would be the time to do so. Because going into this attack I did not have enough TP for Susie's Rude Buster, and because Ralsei was the lowest on HP, I made Kris attack with Susie (to help deal more damage) and made Ralsei defend (to build TP easier and keep him alive easier).

Strategy: Same exact things as Snow 1. Stay to the left, don't move too quickly.

ATTACK 7: Tooth 2

My Actions: I made Susie do Rude Buster. Kris and Ralsei defend to help build TP and because I knew I was not as good at dodging during this attack.

Strategy Part 1: Basically the same as tooth 1, but the direction of which the teeth/icicles will come at you can change now. Just try to remember not to move too much or you run the risk of running right into the attacks. Also, try to stay snug against the green box.

Strategy Part 2: Oh, also important thing to know- the red slash that appears shows you which direction you will be moved to/how the box will be split. Also... the slash can hurt you if you get hit by it!

ATTACK 8: Circle Sword

My Actions: I made Susie do Rude Buster. The other two defend to try to keep them alive for this attack.

Strategy: Now honestly... I found this attack to be rather easy, though I know others find it really challenging. I start off this attack by moving all the way to the left of the green box and then as the attack spawns in I moved into it/go to the center and basically sit there. My biggest recommendation is to move in little increments. There were small moments during this attack where I literally didn't move at all. So yeah once again... move slowly! After the circling of the swords stops is then when you gotta try to dodge like you do in the Line Sword attack. Try to find as quickly as you can some sort of safe spot/blank space.

ATTACK 9: Sword Throw 2

My Actions: Susie does Rude Buster, others defend.

Strategy: This attack was one that kept killing me over and over for the longest time because like many of the other attacks and like I keep saying, I was moving too quick! This attack seems scary but it really isn't that bad as long as you just try to take your time with it and move semi slowly. It is literally just like Sword Throw 1 but you got swords circling around you. If you are moving slow and precise enough then those circling swords are basically not even a threat because you wont even end up near them (though in this run I actually did get hit by them, lol).

ATTACK 10: Slash 2

My Actions: Rude Buster, others defend. I think at this point I was getting nervous for if the run was about to fall apart due to this attack being one I struggle with, and because of Susie and Ralsei's hp.

Strategy: Same as Slash 1, but you gotta move much quicker this time. Important note: even though it may seem like the red lines are on you and you are about to get hurt... for some reason sometimes it does not actually hurt you? Not sure why that is.

ATTACK 11: Snow 3

My Actions: Unlike snow 1 and 2 basically being freebie rounds for me, this one I would proceed to be a little more cautious with because of the end of the attack. That being said though, I knew I would need to get Susie and Ralsei's hp up because after this attack I would not have any opening to be able to (I knew the next attacks I can not dodge as well). So, I made Kris use the ClubSwich healing item I had (to lightly heal everyone) because Kris has the most hp. I made Susie do Rude Buster and Ralsei defend. I knew that keeping Kris exposed was ok because even if they were to go down I would not need to waste a revive on them due to their hp only dropping to -80 on defeat.

Strategy: For trying to dodge the ending part of this attack, honestly I just tried to move around the green box as best as I could/as closely to the green lines and move along them. This did not always work, but for the most part I was lucky to not get hit by doing that motion.

ATTACK 12: Tooth 3

My Actions: Now this one is an attack that I kinda just prayed I wouldn't have anyone get killed to- so therefor same as before I made Susie Rude Buster and the other two defend.

Strategy: Honestly the only advice I can give for this is once again just try to remain calm and move semi slowly. I really just tried to tank my way through this attack as best as I could. The sudden quick switching of where you are in the box can be jarring. Try not to worry about the red slash hitting you and honestly just try to watch out for the "teeth" coming towards you.

ATTACK 13: Slash 3

My Actions: Susie does Rude Buster, the other two defend.

Strategy: As long as you have been able to do enough damage every turn from this point on, then this will be the last attack before the "big special attack". As I said before, these slash attacks are literally the ones I am the worst at. I was very lucky in that I managed to dodge everything during attack 12, so going into this attack I had enough hp to try to tank through the best I could. Try to do the diagonal movement's I mentioned, or whatever you have found works best for you for these slash attacks. At the end of the slashes the boss will pull a Sans Undertale move on you and begin to do tons of quick slashes in the middle of the box that will rotate quickly. Stay semi close to the slashes and just follow them around. You will need to move somewhat quickly during this part.

THE FINAL ATTACK!

Ok. Let us break the format I had going on now. Once the boss begins to glow you will know that the next round will be the big final attack. I had a round before this where the boss did not glow which gave me the opportunity to heal. I gave Susie a TVDinner (she has the shadow mantle, so if anyone was going to survive this attack is would be her). I made Ralsei defend (I should have healed him) and Susie do another Rude Buster (at this point I was not sure if I had met the threshold of how much damage I needed to do before the final attack initiates, so I just was like screw it and tried to throw in another attack not knowing what was coming my way next).

So yeah, at this point once you see the boss glowing- DEFEND. EVERYONE NEEDS TO DEFEND. This will help you as much as possible with the following attack.

I think I ended up attempting this final attack only 5 times throughout all of my runs before I finally won. The boss will try to suck you towards them, so try to make sure you are moving away from them the best you can while also dodging the upcoming attacks. I found that it was best if I stayed kinda in the center and below the boss in preparation for the next part of this attack. I was getting hit a LOT during this and I think the big reason being that I just literally had not gotten to this part that much enough to practice it? That and it's hard too... XD

Part of the reason why I tried to stay where I was at was due to the next part of the attack- the spiral. I don't think you take damage from touching the boss during this part and I found that I literally needed to get up close to them to try to spiral around and dodge this part. I wish I had better tips for this part... but just try your best!

After the spiral part... move FAR away from the boss! Get ready to dodge more of the snowflakes/stars! They will act like "snow 1" and eventually slow down, turn red and explode into little bullets! Just try to be careful and move semi slowly after the explosion!

😲 WOAH MAMA LOOK AT MY TEAM- *ahem*. Yeah I was shaking after seeing that. I could feel it within me that I had only one more hit before I was done for but wow... um, thanks Susie!

Now this is it... the end. You have won at this point. All you need to do is make whoever is alive attack and it's over with. And then... congrats you really did it!!! :D

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PHEW... ok welp that's the end of all that!

I hope this is maybe helpful for those who are going to attempt or are currently attempting this boss! I have a hard time sometimes explaining things... so if you read through this and have any questions then please feel free to ask! 💜

After having beat chp 1, chp 2, and now chp 3's secret bosses I honestly still think that Jevil may have been the worst for me. Like- I honestly think the only reason why this fight is so hard is just because the damage the boss does to you is so bad. The attacks themselves, though tough, I found them overall to not be that bad once I got the hang of them. Seriously I was starting to get to the point where I felt I could almost do a no hit run (not that I would want to though... I need a break, haha). Not with Jevil though... kinda never wanna do that guy again! <w<

Anyways.... if ya liked this post then maybe check out my other posts? 👀 I draw Undertale/Deltarune stuff... cute girly and magical things... uh, yeah! Bye bye~!

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santae-salt · 1 month ago

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Long winded Anon here responding to comment asking for "examples...?" of gatekeeping. Quote, myself in that ask "the amount of just purely hoarded pets, the insane undercutting in the user shops, being unable to do quests bc of the NPC shops getting auto bought up, the cold attitude of the current players" to name a few that have really turned me off personally.

Some more: The lack of DFs available to new players- even if there were more quests that'd be fine with me to be honest. Players overpricing items/trades so that anyone without 100mil SP will never have any real access to them. The lack of actual pointers or help for new players. No real guidelines for certain aspects as well & having to rely on player guides that have a chance of just getting lost entirely. The way a lot of older players seem to refuse to interact with new players making it seem like you're not part of their "club". Not being able to express anything but positivity & the censorship of the on-site boards/deleting threads they don't agree with- which I would count as a form of gatekeeping. Along with not being allowed to ask genuine questions or seek actual clarity- The toxic positivity playing a big part of that issue there. Forcing players to either do ridiculous grinds or spend real money to get actually nice looking items/wearables... I am sure there are even more examples but that's just off the top of my head.

And in general- it's literally the whole vibe. ):

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dl-drama-cd · 3 months ago

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Laito has no childhood flashbacks in his own routes because his story is still presented as a mystery. Sex is the simplest thing you can imagine in his relationship with his mother. The story is developed in such a way that we wonder what really happened. Sex is mentioned even in the first game, which is rated 15+. 'Losing virginity', for example. Or Shu's ヤる in DL Choice Laito. The rating allows talking about sex, but prohibits showing sex scenes.

Kanato raped Yui in DL Kanato Maniac 08, Ayato raped Yui in DL Ayato Maniac 08. Laito did it too in DL Laito Maniac 07. My post is the first of this topic. Triplets do with Yui what they wanted to do with Cordelia. But Cordelia inside Yui always pushed Laito while he harassed a girl. In DL Laito Maniac 08 Cordelia even slapped Laito after he hinted about sex between him and Yui (S-answer). So the fact of rape MC by Kanato and Ayato doesn't mean they also were raped by their mother. Yui is like Cordelia for them there. They wanted to obtain her, all is caused by her blood.

Karl also sucked Cordelia's blood. And Laito wanted Cordelia to belong to him only. In DL Laito Ecstasy 08 Laito said that Cordelia belonged to another man and that's why was so attractive to him. To belong = to have sex.

Bloodsucking is not sexual abuse cause driking blood is still not sex. Reiji sucked Yui at the ball in DL Reiji Maniac 06. Does it mean he fucked her in front of vampires? No. Bloodsucking is sexualized but still not sex. Also Cordelia's blood have mane qualities like giving power and even healing.

Ayato didn't mean this in Versus. Laito was out of their bed when they were sleeping together (they did it often but not always). But when they did it? When Karl invited Cordelia. And Laito didn't say that he came to his mother to be fucked by her. Laito also have a weak stomach so could suffer from pain in nights.

Kanato and Laito never see Cordelia's sex with Richter. That prooves even Kanato's reaction in LE Laito Maniac Epilogue when Laito was suprised that Kanato knew about the way how children appear. They were observing only bloodsuking.

Cordelia wasn't taught. For all the demons love is to kill. Krone also wanted to kill Giesbach and take him with her out of love. For vampires death is selebration. Carnelian Blood is NOT DL. We can't mix these universes.

Laito wanted to make Yui a replacement for Cordelia, so he could 'have' her in a way he couldn't have Cordelia - in a sexual way. When Yui resists, Laito gets excited because Yui reminds him of Cordelia at such moments. Laito also dreamed of Yui coming to him herself. However, Richter's appearance changed his plans and he raped Yui.

Not normal? Founders had incest relationships. Adam that was born from Shin even being a child already desired Yui, his own mom (DF Ruki Brute End). Carla was going to have a child with his aunt Menae. And if Krone were alive, he would have had offspring with his own mother. It is natural that Cordelia and Laito had a strange relationship, because Cordelia has special blood that drives vampires crazy. And no, it is precisely demons that are genetically programmed to have a demonic consciousness that will distort everything good. Demons are former humans, but they have lost their human souls. Yui builds a healthier relationship with her beloveds not because she healed them with love, but because she helped him to be awaken as Adam with her blood. And so Adam gets a human heart.

Of course Cordelia never drank Laito's blood cause she drank Richter's one instead, Cordelia did not need her sons' blood. But Laito DID drank her. And there was a reason for it cause Cordelia's blood is special. We also know that when Cordelia and Richter are in that dungeon scene, no sex is happening--it is absolutely implied bloodsucking. The writer hasn't confirmed anything. The story is built such a way so that we can come to our own conclusions about what happened between Cordelia and Laito. It's more interesting. And I don't think the writer would want to make Cordelia the main character to tell about her sexual abuse of her son. Her story must be more complicated.

Bloodsuking is not sex. Therefore giving blood cannot be equated with sexual rape. Cordelia is a woman and much weaker than her son. Laito was obviously pestering her, this is evident due to her S-answers in Laito's route of the first game. And I will never blame Laito for thi because it is understandable. After all Cordelia's blood literally drove him crazy. I think Cordelia had a reason for giving her son her blood. But I wanted to talk about this in the next posts.

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