#faction paradox protocols

[drleevezan]

For anyone looking for a suitably supernatural series to get into this October, the official Faction Paradox website is currently making the full scripts of the original Faction Paradox Protocols audios available to read online for free, starting with episode one, The Eleven-Day Empire!

“This is where it starts, pretty much. With poor little Justine, all on her own, sent out to the edge of the city where nobody ever goes. Nobody human, anyway. Because, let's not kid ourselves, there were things living in the Eleven-Day Empire even before the Faction settled down there…”

[partiallithopseffect]

The end of The Shadow Play is so funny. All Eliza wants to do is run away see a dinosaur and have lots of lesbian sex but Justine is like. No. We Have To Fight A War

[queen-of-meows]

Since I keep seeing those posts of poeple who believed Severance and Succession where the same show, I have a confession too.

For the longest time, The Locked Tomb and Faction Paradox were merged on my mind as a single entity.

I read the whole Locked Tomb series, a few Faction Paradox books, and it confirms me in my delusion, they totally take place in the same universe 🤣. We don't have any proof that Grandfather Paradox was not John Gaius' witty Twitch username.

[eightdoctor]

@god-tier-bastard oh but of course. i hope you’re serious because this could get long and i would hate to drop all this unsolicited advice on u LOL

so sabbath is an anti hero from the latter-half of the eighth doctor adventure novels. his first Real appearance is in the Adventuress of Henrietta Street, but he makes some cameos in earlier novels such as the Slow Empire. the thing is though Adventuress is sort of the worst book to begin the EDAs with as it continues the war in heaven plot line, features many rather obscure characters & creatures from lawrence miles’ (the author) faction paradox series (though it’s not necessary to listen to those audios to understand the novel) and is also written in the style of a nonfiction history textbook. it makes things a bit ambiguous and vague but the story itself is pretty crazy. you have the doctor living in a bordello in the 1780s, ritualistic sex magic, diabolical great apes from another dimension that are a mirror of humanity’s baser instincts, & other wacky crazy stuff ! haha :)

the thing is though im a huge completionist so i dislike telling people to skip *any* of the books but i understand that in a series with 73 of them its a bit unrealistic to read All of Them. however if you so desire i can write up a list of Important & Good EDAs. but if you’re just looking for sabbath content (aren’t we all…) his books are:

- the adventuress of henrietta street by lawrence miles

- anachrophobia by jonathan morris

- trading🤢 futures 🤢 by lance 🤢 parkin🤢

- history 101 by mags l halliday

- CAMERA OBSCURA BY LLOYD ROSE (GOOD GOD!!!!!)

& then all of the ones after that until sometime never by justin richards has him in some capacity however camera obscura is where the docsabbath plot line peaks . he’s pretty fun in time zero by justin richards, the last resort by paul leonard, & timeless by steve cole though)

also disclaimer i be ed jt to be stressed that it hurts for me to recommend someone start out with adventuress of henrietta street because it’s so vastly different from the rest of the books. and is also just a difficult read in general bc of its style. also most of the novels before it are just as if not more excellent & intriguing. i can give you a plain old list of necessary & skippable edas starting from the beginning if you’d like but i feel like ive been typing for ages and u may not even want this advice. ok thanks bye

if you guys knew what sabbath did to the doctor you’d never shut up about it. unfortunately many remain ignorant and are thus excluded from toxic yaoi nirvana. it’s sad and we weep for them but there are many such cases

[pl9090]

The Nine Gallifreys, My Interpretation. As always constructive criticism is welcome. Thanks go to both Marnal Gate and the Canonwelding section of the Dr Who Discord for: inspiring, helping me develop, and stress test this.

The Nine Gallifrey's concept is one of the most interesting and confusing ideas that emerged during the Wilderness Years. This is not intended to be the definitive answer rather a canonwelding enabling one that fits all of the available information. A, (crude) visual version of this information will be posted later which will hopefully make this easier to understand, (I'sd like to get this drawn up as a proper infographic series eventually but it;s beyond my ability).

Dating convention: War relative time is used in .B.T.W./.D.T.W. format instead of -.W.R.T./.W.R.T. for ease of understanding. Ardethe is not currently counted as it's a ghost world that used to be/resembles? Gallifrey. Clarity on this would be most welcome. Add Flaxian 14th note here once found wiki article.

Gallifreys 1 War King 2 Romana II 3 Flexian III 4 ? 5 ? 6 Ruling Council. 7 Faction Elysian. Starts at some point between 48,000.B.C. and 0.A.D.. 8 ? 9 Celestial Preservation Authority. 10 ? 11 ? 12 ? BF Big Finish.

Timeline 150.B.T.W. to 95.B.T.W. The Primary cloneworlds are completed and unveiled, (.F.P. The Book of the War). The Primary cloneworlds created their own eight secondary cloneworlds, (.E.D.A. Ancestor Cell and .F.P. The Book of the War). 1 secretly swaps it's physical location with 2, (.F.P. Book of the War/Crimes against History and Speculation). 9 establishes itself as a museum and technology/cache, (.E.D.A. The Taking of Planet 5 and .B.F. Omega). BF somehow coexists in the same time and place as 2, (.B.F. Neverland onwards).

.O.B.T.W./Eve of the War/After Last Contact 4 and it's secondary cloneworlds are destroyed by 1 or 2 to prevent Varnax controlling them, (.E.D.A. The Gallifrey Chronicles). 10 is created by 1 to compensate for the loss of 4, (Speculation). 5 ruined by the Cybermen, (Web/.B.F. Real Time). 2's secondary cloneworlds are unwritten by Mother Mathara's/Alt 8th Doctor's Faction Paradox cell, (.E.D.A. Ancestor Cell). 2 is destroyed by the 8th Doctor, (.E.D.A. The Ancestor Cell). 1 defeats an all out Enemy attack but high end technology is erased from it’s noosphere, (.F.P. The Book of the War). BF somehow remains out of the war despite being in Kasterborous, (.B.F. audios).

Around the Battle of Mutter's Cluster 9 and it’s secondary cloneworlds are destroyed by the Enemy to prevent any of the others from utilising their high technology cache, (Speculation). Afterwards the remaining Gallifreys unite with 1 as the coordinater, (.F.P. The Book of the War). 11 is created by 1 to compensate for the loss of 5 or 9, (Speculation).

After the Battle of Delphon to the conflict's, "end" (Depends on when .E.D.A. The Taking of Planet occurs). All nine Gallifreys and there cloneworlds were destroyed by the end of the War. (.E.D.A. The Adventuress of Henrietta Street) 12 is created by 1 to compensate for the loss of 9, (Speculation). 1 is maybe destroyed soon after to explain why no Primary cloneworld is created to compensate for the later loss of 8, (Speculation). Primaries: 1,3,10,11, and 12 are destroyed. 6 and 7 are ruined, (Speculation) Secondaries: Those of: 3,5,6,7, and 8 are destroyed, (Speculation).

Afterwards/NuWho 7 becomes New Alexandria Colony. 8 becomes Winkle's Wonderland and is destroyed by Grandfather's Maw. BF is ruined repeatedly then goes onto fight The Third & Last Great Time War. The ruined: 5,7, and 8 are all destroyed by the Gradfather's Maw around 60,000,000,0000. Somepoint after BF creates 8 Secondaries one of which is Cyberrazed by the Master, (.T.V. The Timeless Children). (Must have been a cloneworld as the protocols held and all linear domains survived suggested by Mr Bucher Jones: https://archive.ph/wyW8F).

Destruction count Enemy: 7 Primaries destroyed 2 ruined. 48 Secondaries destroyed. Gallifrey 1 or 2: 1 Primary destroyed. 8 Secondaries destroyed. 8th Doctor: 1 Primary destroyed and recreated from a combination of the saved Matrix and his: thoughts/feelings/prejudices. Grandfather's Maw: 3 Primaries destroyed. Faction Paradox: 8 Secondaries destroyed. Cybermen: 1 Primary ruined.

The Big Finish Gallifrey Problem The three main issues are: 1.Both 2 and BF exist and are location overlapped for at least the better part of two centuries. 2.BF is somehow seperated from the conflict. 3.There has to be a Gallifrey to fight The Third & Last Great Time War despite all of the Gallifreys being destroyed by the end of the conflict, (.E.D.A. The Adventuress of Henrietta Street). Possible answer: The Eighth Doctor rebuilt a Gallifrey from scratch using the Matrix data corrupted by his own thoughts and feelings, (eg: Mr Parkin's theory of why it's Romana II not III) which included a new temporary Law of Time that isolated it's casual nexus and disconnected it from the Protocols of Linearity, peresumeably as a defence mechanism. However this combined him placing it in pre War era Kasterborous, (maybe around 3652?) as a result of him still not thinking clearly/fully and the multi continuity mess that is his timeline caused 2 to be gradually oxbowed until it's destruction which was a fixed point in time effectively placing .B.F. from that point on in the post War era and experiencing their own seperate version of the Arckhetryx Incident, (It happened twice in the same spacetime location )

Notes 9 and it's secondary cloneworlds have to be destroyed after the failed attack on 1 otherwise erasing the high level tech knowledge from 1's noosphere is pointless. The Battle of Delphon is placed after The Battle of Muster's Cluster. 10, 11, and 12 existed as military bases: loomstacks, chronoforges, and training academies. As NuWho Doctor seems to think he's from BF rather then 1 maybe the Tardis quietly rewrites his biodata ao that he is from whichever Gallifrey is in Kasterborous at the time. The fact .B.F. is partially shaped by the Eighth Doctor's thoughts and feelings has some disturbing yet interesting connotations. That just leaves their starting temporal locations to figure out, but that will be a another post.

[cousin-quartz-of-house-paradox]

A random doctor who story (doesn't matter what medium) you'd recommend?

ohhh i would rec so so much. literally. but i tend to rec dw stories based upon genre, like, ask whoever i'm recommending to what genres they like and proceed from there. so, here's some!

murder mystery: benny series "year zero" audio; iris wildthyme "a murder at the abbey" audio. i love when my favourite mentally unwell/insane women play miss marple. technically "the also people" qualifies too, and i love recommending that as well!!!

(lures you in with silly shit) surprise attack of seriousness: can i say the whole benny series. and also iris wildthyme "the unholy ghost" short story in the panda book of horror anthology. :3 iris is so so in character there.

(lures you in with seriousness) surprise attack of silly shit: faction paradox protocols audios, uhhh a couple of really good benny stories such as "a tub full of cats" and also "in living memory", a bit, though it goes: melancholy -> What The Fuck -> silly in a concerning way -> Hey What Is Even Going On -> direly serious. so. yeah! huge rec. also a few VNAs fit this theme as well :3

alright let's be real i have no idea what i'm doing. also. we need to read the iris-senõr 105 story. it does a really good iris.

i do also recommend iris-benny crossover "the plague herds of excelis", and also short story "the niceness" in the panda book of horror anthology.

yeah, this isn't a normal rec thing at all. and also i just realised you wanted one rec. uh. well, it's too late now!!!

[theangelshavethephonebox]

no but oh my gd so like imagine if there were these two lesbians and they were in love with each other but in very different ways. One of them is literally going "please have my children" and the other is homophobic. that's Eliza and Justine from the faction paradox protocols

[adventure-showdown]

What is your favourite Doctor Who story?

ROUND 2 MASTERPOST

synopses and propaganda under the cut

The Book of the War

Synopsis

The Great Houses: Immovable. Implacable. Unchanging. Old enough to pass themselves off as immortal, arrogant enough to claim ultimate authority over the Spiral Politic.

The Enemy: Not so much an army as a hostile new kind of history. So ambitious it can re-write worlds, so complex that even calling it by its name seems to underestimate it.

Faction Paradox: Renegades, ritualists, saboteurs and subterfugers, the criminal-cult to end all criminal-cults, happy to be caught in the crossfire and ready to take whatever's needed from the wreckage… assuming the other powers leave behind a universe that's habitable.

The War: A fifty-year-old dispute over the two most valuable territories in existence: "cause" and "effect."

Marking the first five decades of the conflict, THE BOOK OF THE WAR is an A to Z of a self-contained continuum and a complete guide to the Spiral Politic, from the beginning of recordable time to the fall of humanity. Part story, part history and part puzzle-box, this is a chronicle of protocol and paranoia in a War where the historians win as many battles as the soldiers and the greatest victory of all is to hold on to your own past…

Propaganda

Is it about Dr Who? I mean, sort of. Arguably. You could say the Doctor is present in it. Somewhat. Not by name tho because that would be illegal. But definitely there are uh. well. there's definitely stuff in it that's DWesque. It's Dr Who Adjacent. It's Dr Whoish. Strong Dr Who vibes. (@eighthdoctor )

Experimental sci-fantasy that defined the Time War and started a whole series of its own. (anonymous)

The City of the Dead

Synopsis

“Nothing can get into the TARDIS,” the Doctor whispered. Then he realised that Nothing had.

New Orleans, the early 21st century. A dealer in morbid artefacts has been murdered. A charm carved from human bone is missing. An old plantation, miles from any water, has been destroyed by a tidal wave.

Anji goes dancing. Fitz goes grave-robbing. The Doctor attracts the interest of a homicide detective and the enmity of a would-be magician. He wants to find out the secret of the redneck thief and his blind wife. He'd like to help the crippled curator of a museum of magic. He's trying to refuse politely the request of a crazy young artist that he pose naked with the man's wife.

Most of all, he needs to figure out what all of them have to do with the Void that is hunting him down.

Before it catches him.

Propaganda

It has dark magic and someone is hunting the Doctor in his dreams. Also great worldbuilding. (anonymous)

[alteredsilicone]

Warframe Quest tier list

Explanations of ratings under the cut:

Great: Quests that hooked me conceptually and are the core of how I view the game/my own characters and worldbuilding

Sacrifice - This quest is worth the hype. That's it. Even though I have gripes with Umbra from a fandom perspective, I love the lore of the Warframes a lot.

Glast Gambit - personal sentimental favorite, this is purely my own bias. I think it's a really good early example of a fun character interaction (Nef and Ergo, toxic old man yaoi LONG before WITW; they are divorced, the worm in my brain told me so) and also an interesting way to show the "choice" system via a moral dilemma (Neewa's fate).

Whispers in the Wall also goes into the "Great" tier, great quest, great characters, great setup for the next era of Warframe and imo a culmination of all the ups and downs that Warframe has been through the years and that ended up in a truly great narrative experience.

Good: Quests I liked but that missed a certain "oomph"

Duviri Paradox - I love Duviri as a place and the mythology around it, but I expected something different from the quest itself. Certain story beats didn't land because I did not feel the emotional connection the game expected me to (coughcoughTeshin'sfakeoutdeathcoughcough). Also didn't like Drifter being a snarky ass in a Marvel-esque way. I'm too used to RPGs and MMOs so when a game forces a characterization on my character I get really antsy if it's something she would not say.

Deadlock Protocol - I LOVE the Corpus so any Corpus content gets instant bias bonus points. Introduction of a very solid villain, Nef bullying. It has it all. This quest could also go in "great" but I think the narrative itself isn't compelling and earth-shattering enough to warrant that.

Waverider - hot take alert! Corpus bias once again, Nef being humbled is always a plus. The k-drive was annoying but I got gud and finished the quest, it was entertaining.

Vox Solaris - good introduction to the Solaris faction but I feel the conflict was solved way too quickly, but I also wasn't around for the release, the ARG and the introduction of the Orb Mothers. Still, I think Nef and the Solaris' conflict could be made into a cinematic three-parter on its own. Oh well, that's what fanfiction is for. (Ps. Nightwave Season 3 had a forgettable side character, Cutter, who touched upon a subject I wish the Solaris plotline explored more)

Call of the Tempestarii - I almost want to put it in "wasted potential" only because I wish Vala had more of a prominent role. Sighs. I love Corpus, I love evil women, I got an evil Corpus woman. Please give me more evil Corpus women.

Chains of Harrow - overall good quest. Rell's story is heart-wrenching. I still headcanon that "Margulis cast him out" is Red Veil propaganda and Rell got separated from the rest of the Tenno in other ways and was brainwashed to believe he was cast out completely.

Second Dream - I knew the Operator existed before I played this quest so I didn't have the HOLY SHIT WHAT!!! reaction, but I think this is a good quest and I understand why people guard the Operator secret even though I think it hurts the narrative of Warframe overall. Oh Well.

New War - To me it's like a Marvel movie, a huge spectacle. It was fun in the way a popcorn movie is fun. It was more fun gameplay wise than story-wise, though I enjoyed the Void/Wally/Zariman lore the most (it's my second favorite thing after Corpus stuff).

Okay - these are quests which either didn't particularly speak to me, or I just have completely forgotten. All the early quests fall into "forgotten" category and things post War Within are more on the "okay" side.

Wasted potential - Silver Grove. My joy, my pain. I WISH this wasn't an ancient quest and the post-quest moral actually applied to New Loka. I think as a concept New Loka are very interesting, but poorly executed, so now they're just "lol ecofascists/plant nazis" so I can't even get people to engage with them on a serious level. Forever seething and malding

Disappointment of the century - Angels of the Zariman. I was there, I participated in the ARG to the best of my ability, I read the logs, I changed my blog title to "Abyssus accipit et Abyssus dat" because I liked it that much. Then I got a 30 minute tutorial quest with a bunch of NPCs I don't care about and my Operator had zero emotional reaction TO RETURNING TO THE PLACE WHERE IT ALL FUCKING BEGAN AND THEY KILLED THEIR PARENTS AND LOST EVERYTHING THEY EVER HELD DEAR JESUS FUCK WHY WHY WHY

anyways

I warmed up to the Holdfasts and Yonta is cute so I have forgiven her crimes. Also this was during an era where I was constantly miffed at DE adding new characters instead of building on old ones.

So yeah, that's that.

tl;dr - I have a bias towards lore regarding the Warframes themselves, Corpus and anything regarding the Void/Tenno. Also I have shit memory.

[tardistogongen]

I saw someone mention a 'research failure' with Christine Summerfield. Looks like it comes from one of your stories. Can you explain what happened there?

Alright, yeah, let's answer this. I wasn't sure if I would, but why not. So, when I listened to the "Faction Paradox Protocols" audios, I... kinda had some problems understanding them. The sound mixing really made it hard for me to make out all the dialogue, and I didn't catch everything. So, I made my way through the whole series without catching the revelation that Christine Summerfield was Cousin Eliza. And since I wasn't familiar with Bernice Summerfield much (I've read more EDAs than VNAs, and more Faction Paradox than either) I missed many of the other clues that Christine=Eliza. I got a request from Hunter, who was editing "Cwej: Down the Middle" to write a vignette for C:DtM that featured Eliza, and I was like... sweet? I love Eliza. I mean, I loved her more in "The True History of Faction Paradox" because I could understand her dialogue better as I preferred that audio mixing, but you know. So Hunter gave me the brief and I was just like "Oh huh, I guess Eliza is a clone of Chris Cwej? I never knew that" and didn't question that at all. I was swamped with multiple projects I had to complete at the time, so I was trusting editors with information unless I had a reason not to. I wrote the brief, and was really happy with how it turned out, but I didn't realize I was walking into a fan theory quagmire. So yeah. I do really like that vignette, but I know that its unpopular with some folks due to the implications on the character. And hey, Eliza is tricky. You can always believe her presence there is her own lie and gambit. But I hope folks can enjoy it for what it is!

[a-wartime-paradox]

The BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures "War in Heaven" arc, as it may have originally been

The BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures, at their start, didn't have any arc set-in-stone, and so author Lawrence Miles wrote the masterpiece Alien Bodies, kick-starting the "War in Heaven" arc. However, on 3 July 2000, The Ancestor Cell was published, putting an end to the War in Heaven arc, at least within the EDA range.

Before this novel was published, Lawrence Miles had other ideas for the War in Heaven, and I for this post have attempted to reconstruct a rough timeline for what could have been, from the available evidence. Bear in mind that I have taken some creative liberties and speculation. As there will be quite a few different stories in different ranges, some released and some unproduced, I've decided to code them for convenience: first off, assume everything is a published EDA unless told otherwise - then, green is for a part of the "Bernice Summerfield" New Adventures, blue is for Past Doctor Adventures, orange is for anything else, and bold is for unproduced (these can be combined).

Prelude

Down (September 1997)*: the Gods are introduced, setting up a War seemingly separate to the War in Heaven. This most likelywasn't originally intended to tie-in to the EDAs, or be part of the War in He and, but was brought in by Dead Romance.

Alien Bodies (November 1997): Faction Paradox, the Enemy, the Celestis, and the state of Gallifrey and it's cloneworlds during the War in Heaven is introduced and established as being in the Eighth Doctor's future.

Unnatural History (June 1999): small skirmish with Faction Paradox. It is altogether unclear whether they come from the War or from the Eighth Doctor's time

Act 1

Dead Romance (1 March 1999): the universe of the VNAs, that of Chris Cwej, is implied to be in a bottle in the EDA universe, as itself contains a bottle. Later stories would draw continuity with the VNAs, and The Ancestor Cell (not counted in this list) saw the merger of the bottle into the main universe. This is also implied to be the case by the fact that Cousin Eliza - Christine Summerfield - appears to be in the prime universe by The Faction Paradox Protocols. Personally, I reconcile these by concluding that only the later VNAs starring Bernice Summerfield, which lacked the BBC Doctor Who license, are part of this "bottle", and that Christine used the Gods of that universe to climb out of it, as she implies at the end of the novel.

Interference: What Happened On Earth (August 1999, part of "Interference"): a major interaction with the War; the Doctor prevents the destruction of Earth by wartime powers, thus marking his first major intervention in the War, as Earth is a cradle point of casualty. The War also infects the Doctor's timestream back to his third incarnation, in Interference: What Happened On Dust.

Toy Story (1999/2004)*2: Lolita talks to the TARDIS.

Interference: Foreman's World (August 1999, part of "Interference"): I.M. Foreman reveals the bottle universe, says the people within created their own bottle universe, and it is lost. This effectively confirms the implementation in Dead Romance. Interestingly, as far as I know, most people read Interference first, completely missing the fact that the ending of it is meant to confirm Dead Romance, not foreshadow it. At least, I completely missed that.

Beneath the Planet of the Spiders (after "Interference"): The Fourth Doctor combats the Eight Legs in place of the Third Doctor, and presumably the effects of Interference are further explored.

Valentine's Day (after "Interference"): the Doctor exiles himself for fear of regenerating into something worse than Faction Paradox could imagine. With his absence, the Daleks rise to power. The Doctor then trains a replacement, with the combined help of the Time Lords and Faction Paradox. Ideas of a replacement were adapted by Miles into The Adventuress of Henrietta Street, where the replacement is Sabbath Dei.

The Taking of Planet 5 (October 1999): Mictlan, realm of the Celestis, is destroyed, and the Doctor aids in saving the rest of the universe.

The Shadows of Avalon (2000): The specifics of Compassion's transformation into a TARDIS, and potentially the transformation in totality, were probably not part of Miles's original plan. However, he notably didn't contradict it in The Book of the War, so this will still be included.

Act 2

From here on out, there aren't any actual plans for Eighth Doctor novels, although that is likely just due to the small gap between Interference and The Ancestor Cell. Nevertheless, this has the interesting diegetic effect of making it seem that the War has started to escape the Eighth Doctor, and is widening it's girth.

First I shall list the unproduced novels that would fit into here, and then offer my diegetic summary:

The War (after 12 March 1999): Pertaining to an unknown range, perhaps the Past Doctor Adventures (as it also included the non-past Infinity Doctors and would have included the future Requiem), this would have featured Joanna Lumley's Thirteenth Doctor being in a concentration camp with other "strays from other realities", all taken from BBC sitcoms which the BBC still had rights to. @verityshush commissioned Wenart Gunardi to make a cover for this, in the style of the Virgin New Adventures (the anachronism fits)

Requiem (after 1998's "Interference"): There is a "huge, bone-like thing" in the sky over a war-paranoid Gallifrey. Miles contested that "The Ancestor Cell" copied the idea of this, but the thing in the huge black bone structure in Requiem reportedly was totally different to in "The Ancestor Cell".). There would have been 5 sequels to Requiem, all following this "future incarnation of the Doctor". Presumably these would have crossed over with the BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures at at least one point, if not more.

Below is my deigetic imaging of what could have been.

The War in Heaven expands beyond the Eighth Doctor's timestream, and begins infecting both alternative timelines (The War) and future incarnations (Requiem). The future incarnations may be an "infection" of the developing War, as the Doctor "originally died on Dronid", but as it's heavily implied that's not quite what happened, he could have easily experienced Requiem first and then gone back to the beginning of the War (which should be impossible, but just look at how many times the Eighth Doctor interacted with the future War) to be found on Drornid.

Despite expanding beyond the Eighth Doctor, it still chases him, or to be more specific, the War Queen Romana chases him, Fitz, and their timeship Compassion. Eventually, in unknown book (unknown because future novels with the War Queen Romana never even got to the pitching state, but feel like they should have existed), the Doctor would regain his TARDIS, and in my ideal world it would have regenerated (not because I don't like the Victorian parlour, quite the contrary, I the arc would be more impactful if it had a permanent effect). I think that after he gets his TARDIS back, the Eighth Doctor should just keep on as normal, not really seeing the War all that much, perhaps even his TARDIS has engineered itself to not ever collide with it again - without the Doctor's knowledge? - but there's no "cataclysmic", The Ancestor Cell -like removal of the War.

Compassion, now a timeship separate from the Doctor, Fitz, and the Doctor's TARDIS, would leave the "TARDIS team" and eventually get the companion "Carmen Yeh"*3

Finally, an unnecessary but nice note on how Compassion become the mother of timeships:

The Book of the War, specifically the entry on "Carmen Yeh", features Compassion confronting the War King, and entering into diplomatic relations with him. This is likely the intended point by Miles of when Compassion would have aided in the reproduction of the 103-forms, as opposed to The Shadows of Avalon's version (rape).

*I have not actually read this book, my info for it derives solely from Nate Bumber's blogspot about the Bernice Summerfield War

*2 This was first published in the charity anthology Perfect Timing 2, and then later reprinted in Mad Norwegian Press's edition of Dead Romance

*3 In the Perfect Timing short story "Schrödinger's Botanist", Carmen Yeh would meet Compassion and join her.

Tagging (with permission): @doctornolonger

[queen-of-meows]

What do you mean the whole Faction Paradox Protocols audio drama series is on Archive.org ? For free ? Wow !

[walks-the-ages]

If I knew how to Mod at all, I'd be making Faction Paradox mods for Fallout Who >=]

The Perdition Protocol is already such a strong Dead Romance reference...

[eightdoctor]

If you have Finished the EDAs their are three non EDA Stroies published by the BBC staring 8 and one published by Virgin

They are as Follows:

The Dying Days (set during the green-peace gap)

Wolfsbane (set during the Earth arc between Causalities of War and the Turing Test, also stars the 4th Doctor and Harry Sullivan)

Fear Itself (set after Earthworld)

We Can’t Stop What’s Coming (the only post Gallifrey Chronicles story with Fitz 8 and Trix dealing with the coming of the Last Great Time War it is found in the Target Book)

Several Short Trips are also set during the series:

‘Bounty’ ‘Dead Time’ and ‘the People’s Temple’ are all in the audio anthology Earth and Beyond and show Sam Jones’s first trips in the TARDIS a prior to Vampier Science.

Femme Fatal (found in More Shirt Trips starts Sam and Iris Wildthyme)

The Queen of Eros (found in Shirt Trips and Side Steps also with Sam)

Growing Higher (Found in Short Trips: Zodiac)

Fitz is also in:

Only Living Girls (a short story in Iris Wildthyme and the Celestial Omnibus)

Fitz’s Story (a full cast audio story relased by Big Finish in the anthology a Company of Friends, also in that anthology is Benny’s story which is a loos sequel to the Dying Days)

Dead Romance (an unnamed appearance as the physical manifestation of the Horror in his Father Kreiner incarnation, acts as a Sequel to Interference)

Compassion appears beyond the EDA’s in:

Toy Story (set between the two Formans World Sections in Interference but should be read afterwards to avoid spoilers, also introduces Lolita, the TARDIS’s sister

Book of the War (book Zero in the Faction Paradox spin off)

Of the City of the Saved (book 2 in the Faction Paradox spin off. focuses on the Original Compassion, Laura Tobin, in the Afterlife also sees Compassion 2 and the TARDIS Compassion play a significant role)

Warring States (book 5 in the Faction Paradox spin off series)

Breakspear Voyage (Book 9 in the Faction Paradox spin off. a brief appearance)

The Faction Paradox Protocols (the first series of Faction Paradox audios. her appearance in performed media, also stars Sabbath)

Every City of the Saved Story (she is in all of them in some form of another. Read City of the Saved First to avoid spoilers all other appearances of the City of the Saved also star her.)

Scarlette from Adventuress of Henrietta Street also goes on to appear in

The True History of the Faction Paradox (the second series of Faction Paradox audios, shows her birth)

Faction Paradox Issue 1 and 2 (the only two issues if the Faction Paradox comic, also starts Sabbath)

Sabbath beyond his prior two mentions also appears in the audio story ‘Sabbath and the King’ but one should listen to both Faction Paradox series’s prior to this one for full understanding.

Faction Paradox also appear in:

Their own multimedia spin of series

The 13th Doctor Anthology the Wintertime Paradox (which ties into the Time Lord Victorious multimedia event as that is how the Faction Return)

Several Iris Wildthyme stories

The War in Heaven also appears in

All of Faction Paradox bar the comics

Several 10,000 Dawns stories

The Past Doctor Adventures novel’s ‘the Infinity Doctors’ and ‘Verdigris’

Several Iris Wildthyme stories

The Bernice Summerfield spin of series starting with Where Angles Fear (but foreshadowed in Down) and Concluding in Escaping the Future.

Iris Wildthyme also appears

Everywhere

So if you feel disappointed about finish the EDA’s and want more EDA fun you have all of these to look forwards to!

:)

thank you for this thorough ask…. though i have already listened to all of the faction paradox stuff and would rather disembowel myself before reading another lance parkin novel so soon this is a wonderful reference!! big appreciations xx

thant being said i think i am just going to reread them.

[adventure-showdown]

What is your favourite Doctor Who story?

ROUND 3 MASTERPOST

synopses and propaganda under the cut

Camera Obscura

Synopsis

The Doctor sat alone and listened to the beat of his remaining heart. He had never got used to it. He never would. The single sound where a double should be. What was this new code hammering through his body? What did it mean? Mortal. No, he'd always known he could die. Not mortal. Damaged. Crippled. Through his shirt, his fingers sought the thick ridge of his scar. Human...

The Doctor's second heart was taken from his body — for his own good, he was told. Removed by his sometime ally, sometime rival, the mysterious time-traveller Sabbath. Now, as a new danger menaces reality, the Doctor finds himself working with Sabbath again. From a seance in Victorian London to a wild pursuit on Dartmoor, the Doctor and his companions work frantically to unravel the mystery of this latest threat to Time... Before Time itself unravels.

Propaganda

DESPAIR ACCORDS WITH REALITY BUT I INSIST ON HOPE!!!!!!! GOOD FUCKING BOOK IM UNWELL (anonymous)

The Book of the War

Synopsis

The Great Houses: Immovable. Implacable. Unchanging. Old enough to pass themselves off as immortal, arrogant enough to claim ultimate authority over the Spiral Politic.

The Enemy: Not so much an army as a hostile new kind of history. So ambitious it can re-write worlds, so complex that even calling it by its name seems to underestimate it.

Faction Paradox: Renegades, ritualists, saboteurs and subterfugers, the criminal-cult to end all criminal-cults, happy to be caught in the crossfire and ready to take whatever's needed from the wreckage… assuming the other powers leave behind a universe that's habitable.

The War: A fifty-year-old dispute over the two most valuable territories in existence: "cause" and "effect."

Marking the first five decades of the conflict, THE BOOK OF THE WAR is an A to Z of a self-contained continuum and a complete guide to the Spiral Politic, from the beginning of recordable time to the fall of humanity. Part story, part history and part puzzle-box, this is a chronicle of protocol and paranoia in a War where the historians win as many battles as the soldiers and the greatest victory of all is to hold on to your own past…

Propaganda

Is it about Dr Who? I mean, sort of. Arguably. You could say the Doctor is present in it. Somewhat. Not by name tho because that would be illegal. But definitely there are uh. well. there's definitely stuff in it that's DWesque. It's Dr Who Adjacent. It's Dr Whoish. Strong Dr Who vibes. (@eighthdoctor )

Experimental sci-fantasy that defined the Time War and started a whole series of its own. (anonymous)

[a-wartime-paradox]

Just started the Faction Paradox Protocols (spoilers ofc) and damn. I love this exchange:

Godfather Morlock: we're almost entirely certain this is a trap

Parliament:

Godfather Morlock: so we're gonna walk right into it!

Parliament: Woo!