#feel like we used to use racists a lot

[dykedvonte]

The Khans - My Introspective

I don't like the Military and I don't support a lot of the actions the NCR does to the Mojave in New Vegas but in terms of the Khans I feel like the fandom infantilizes or diminishes the fact that they are or at least one of the most violent raider groups in the Mojave.

What happened at Bitter Springs was a tragedy, innocent lives were lost and the fact that the NCR swept it under the rug and continued to hunt down Khans that are truly trying to back down and resettle is horrendous, but there is a history to the NCR's aggression towards them.

The Khans first appear in Fallout 1, the main faction of raiders in the game besides the mentioned Vipers (who don't actually appear if I remember correctly). They came from Vault 15 along with the members that would form rival groups; The Vipers, The Jackals, and Shady Sands. They are a very large and foreboding raiding party, known for burning towns and encampments they attack and taking survivors as their slaves or slaves to sell. They are a big reason why the Jackals and Vipers are actually so small in New Vegas, they wiped them out.

Their main targets where Shady Sands and Junker town, the former of the two would be what became The New California Republic. This explains a big part of their animosity towards the Khans, only furthered by the fact the Khans kidnapped Tandi as a young girl, the girl that would go to offically found the NCR out of Shady Sands. When the dweller saved her and killed much of the Khans, this allowed the NCR to develop into what it currently is as they no longer needed to focus on fighting off constant raids.

When the Khans became the New Khans in Fallout 2, they barely resembled the Khans as they were led by Darion, Garl Death-Hand's son (former leader of the Khans). They were smaller and refortified vault 15, still planning to take down the NCR (at this time nowhere near as imperialist as they are in FNV) as mostly a revenge/power ploy. They manipulate The Squat, a group of y'know squatters, that lived in the upper levels, promising and lying about repairing the vault and offering them ransacked caravan resources if they kept the NCR away. Being their only life line The Squat had no choice. Still the chosen one got rid of them and they left New California for the untapped Mojave.

The Great Khans, the most current iteration, continued in the path as the original Khans, regrouping and gaining information from the Followers who hoped they'd use their new medical knowledge to heal themselves. They gained more members and a substantial part of Vegas territory before they were run out by the three families. They were pushed to Bitter Springs where they first and foremost continued to pick off and attack NCR settlements, most of which consisted of caravans, towns, and camps as they saw them as easy like in their old days. It was the killing of four influential Republic members (non-military) that brought on Bitter Springs.

Bitter Springs was the result of years of hatred and animosity and likely the goal to send a final message to the Khans. It does not excuse the fact that innocent men, women, and children were slaughtered with few survivors. It does not excuse the fact that the NCR has yet to make amends for this and continues to try and persecute the Khans even in moments of surrender.

This post is not to defend what happened but to give a quick rundown of the Khan's history and their history with the NCR. It's to remind people that the NCR is not just their military power but an actual group/settlement of people that were also attacked indiscriminately by the Khans. It's to point out that the Khans were not a band of indigenous people (no matter the comparisons) driven from their homes but raiders who fed into the brutal cultures of the west coast wasteland and were in turn treated to the same things.

My frustration comes from the fact that FNV has so many comparisons to indigenous struggles but the groups it chooses are not comparable at all. Their oppression hinges on not being familiar with their past, which explains why they have the reputation they do in canon. The "tribes" are often not even groups of minorities or have goals/desires out of acquisitions of power and I feel like it is important to both acknowledge that this is bad indigenous rep because it is not supposed to be. It is supposed to be a comparison of the in-game groups and how they all do the same things and justify it in their own fucked up ways, some better at it than others.

FNV of all the Fallout games (in light of it being heavily Western based) distastefully uses indigenous imagery and theming for groups that are sad mimicries of American indigenous cultures at best and outright offensive at worst.

[marxism-transgenderism]

Potentially terrible situation ended up very funny. Apt complex it throwing a labor day party and were all out having fun when this one racist transphobic awful fucking neighbor starts getting shifty about rap music being played, nearly gets his ass beat by the whole fucking neighborhood, calls the cops, and the whole party like organized so quick to get someone who could talk to the cops and explain the bullshit and the cops end up leaving within minutes laughing at the awful guy and management bans him from the pool for the weekend

[nearisqueer]

on one hand, emigration is a huge part of my country's history and culture and we have a massive diaspora and people descended from irish people who find some sense of meaning or belonging from that absolutely deserve the chance to learn of the culture from which they descend, and to connect with it. if you're descended from irish people but you're not from here, absolutely you should learn about our history, our culture, our traditions and sport and food and language and everything, and you should come visit and see all the sights and historical monuments and whatnot. There's nothing wrong with wanting to connect with that and claim it.

On the other hand, listening to irish Americans talk about ireland makes me wanna shit myself

[theamazingannie]

I really feel like at this point, once you’ve insulted Taylor Swift’s lyricism as a hater, you’ve already lost. Either you didn’t listen to the song and have no right to speak on it, or you did listen to it and therefore contributed to her streams and are adding to making her the biggest star in the world. If y’all really insist that she isn’t as big of a star as she is and only white gays and 12yos listen to her, then stop streaming and surely her stats would plummet and you wouldn’t have to hear about her anymore. But you cant because you’re just as obsessed, if not even more, than we are

[caffeinatedopossum]

I'm having the sudden urge to make a discord server for all of us but I'm almost definitely not qualified. Like idk I just like you guys and you seem so cool and funky and sometimes I think we should talk and listen to music and show each other our art and our outfits and vent and celebrate together and play games and shit

[escapistcatontheinternet]

woah why r ppl lobbing death threats at my boyfriend kabru in the notes of my dungeon meshi post... just bc he is fantasy racist...

[idiosyncraticrednebula]

I think we really need to get to a point where we realize that straight white men aren't inherently evil, predatory, abusive and oppressive.

[regenderate]

honestly i feel like people focus on their personal least favorite showrunner being racist/sexist so that they don't have to reckon with the whole entire show being racist/sexist

[starlooove]

Ew is that how I came off with that whole thing

[septembersghost]

She chose to make this whole thing about him and she chose to be this public and this is taking atention from her art as someone who said she wants to be known by her art this is realy weird and wrong and she does know how to hide when it comes to her relationships and her love life so she wants to be seen with him

it's so counterintuitive to everything we've known about her, whenever she has (rightfully!) spoken about holding closely to her privacy, or for the media to not focus on her dating life over her music...this isn't even the same as us, as fans, being aware who certain songs are ~about~. through specific actions she has put this front and center, and i cannot fathom WHY. i was just saying to a mutual that it's been so beautiful to see her triumphing, see what a spectacular show she's put together celebrating her career, see her reclaiming her art. (selfishly, the re-recordings have meant SO much to me, and i can't even be excited about SNTV right now while this is happening and while fans, myself included, are hurt. it feels horrible tbqh). i understand if perhaps the intense privacy got to be too much for she and joe, but this is such a startling 180 with someone who is flagrantly gross and the opposite of everything she's previously stood for and said? it's jarring. we KNOW she can go unseen or keep things to herself, she is choosing to align publicly with this man. at this huge pinnacle for her in time, when countless eyes have been on her. seeing her succeed, and even many of the naysayers we used to fight against cheering for her, has been wonderful, but there's no reasoning or defense here. i'm at a Ioss, and i know a lot of fans are.

[whimsyprinx]

ever few months something happens that makes me want to remind southern ppl that we’re not like a joke or bad or stupid or whatever else ppl like to paint southern folks as being

[just-rogi]

I’m moving out in five weeks and last night I snapped at my roommate who had been a dick to me all year (for something reasonable and justifiable) and ik I shouldn’t feel bad but I totally do lol

All year has been the oppression Olympics any time any of us is upset about anything and like.. I reminded him last night that he isn’t the only minority in the apartment and he was pissed

[unhonestlymirror]

I didn't expect to see "about 85% of all white people are Rh positive" in my lecture. ://

[andromedasummer]

honestly the biggest thing for me in this hamilton (the musical) v hamilton (the person) stuff is just the fact that there is still a hamilton (the musical) fanbase in 2023. that is honest to god mindblowing to me. i thought we'd left the slave owner musical in the past.

[snekdood]

i think my problem with other ppl who claim to possibly have native american ancestry but dont know is when they dont seem to treat it like as if it could *actually* be true and just treat it like "yeah im a spicy white person" dshdfshjv? idk if that makes sense, like they dont do the internal work of deconstructing racism around native people, they dont start listening to native ppl- its more or less used as either an excuse for appropriation or just to seem more "exotic".

[mx-paint]

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