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way-too-fine · 1 year
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THE NANNY – s1e14: family plumbing
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siren-of-redriver96 · 6 months
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Fran Fine was one of the GOATs when it comes to female characters
let me tell you about:
a woman who knew exactly how pretty and sexy she was
a former popular girl at her High School
who sought and actively tried to get men's attention and was very aware when she got it too
who wore sexy outfits because she looked great in them and loved them and never would have dressed more conservatively to please anyone
who still was a big sweetheart
and an amazing and loving stepmother
who still didn't back down when it came to men and her eventual husband
their relationship had it's ups and downs and he was full of flaws, but they worked towards each other and she came out on top, always
she had flaws too, and that was alright, even funny
despite not having had great education still was very clever and knew what she needed to know, often more than the rich people around her
oh, yeah: she was a working class woman who did not come from money and knew the life of people in her home district Queens
and she was an experienced woman, with men and previous relationships - and who dated a lot, and never made it a secret that and how much she was into getting physical when the time was right
Bottom line: I wish more characters were like Fran - in other stories, she would be antagonized and constantly compared to the "good" girl, and no one would care to get to know her better
Meanwhile, I've started to like C.C. more and more too - she really had it down being a business woman and no bs, and I like that her and Niles began competing on one level - that's very cute :)
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dakotadawn · 2 years
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what you fail to understand is that no matter what radfems and terfs tell you, out in the real world, people aren’t just attracted to others based on what chromosome they have. sexuality is a nuanced and implacable thing for a lot of people. many people! including many people who identify as lesbians, and gay men. if you’ve ever been or lived in a big city with a large LGBT scene — New York, Chicago, LA, San Fran, London, Edinburgh, Brighton, Manchester, Liverpool, Paris — you will find that many (though admittedly, not all) of the people there just… accept trans people as our identified gender. Especially in the LGBT scene, the punk scene, the metal scene, the emo scene, the goth scene, the standup comedy scene, the skateboarding scene, the graffiti scene — anything radical and counterculture. You’ll find that, no matter what terfs tell you, “lesbian” and “gay” are not scientific concepts, they are cultural ones. They are not dictionary definitions, they are labels people choose from based on what fits them best. There is not an innate compass within us pointing to either an X or a Y chromosome; our understandings of ourselves are defined by an amalgam of our experiences, our biological predilections (which yes, often play an enormous part in this) and our intangible sense of self. This is why zoologists don’t define animals as gay or straight; rather they write of “same sex sexual behaviour” because, of course, a chimp or a dog or a penguin has no notion of what a lesbian or a bisexual is. It’s the same reason historians often recommend sorting far past historical figures into modern day understandings of sexuality — while Plato would probably understand himself today to be a gay man, the cultural ideas of sexuality and gender in ancient Greece didn’t work on the same metric or understanding as ours; not because they were wrong, not because they hadn’t “discovered” sexual orientation yet, but because their cultural ideals and norms were different to ours, much like they still are in other places in the world, in other cultures. As recently as the 60s bisexual women were considered wholly to be lesbians, by the lesbian community. Not because they didn’t understand themselves, but because the word meant something different then! It was used in a different way. Words and concepts are not immutable, our experiences define language, not the other way around.
I never denied that sexuality is more complicated than genetic makeup. I wouldn't be attracted to a passing postoperative MtF transsexual because she appears, in all senses, to be a female. I am not magically drawn to her XY chromosomes. I will accept other trans people socially as their identity, I'd be hypocritical to not, and thus socially I will treat a trans man as a dude. However, I wouldn't date someone who has a vagina.
Yes, I am shocked as to how much people accept and validate this whole trans thing in reality. I went in expecting that the majority of mankind would see me as a delusional freak. However, I think social acceptance is one thing. Most people will respect me as a human being, but don't want to sleep with me, because they do not find a body like mine attractive. That's okay. I'll find somebody someday. There are actually plenty of guys who have a thing for this so I'm sure I can find someone.
I'm not saying anyone's individual experience of sexuality is not real, but trans activists need to stop demanding lesbians sleep with trans women and gay men sleep with trans men, its nasty homophobic incel behavior. If we want respect, we must also respect others, and that includes respecting their boundaries. It is not transphobic for a straight man or a lesbian to refuse to date a trans woman, because they aren't attracted to biological males, and that's *fine*. Cotton ceiling rhetoric is absolutely disgusting and I will not change my mind on that matter.
Also, don't act like all radical feminism is is the trans debate, there's more to it than that. My core radfem beliefs are anti-porn and sex trade abolition, as I think those are two of the biggest problems and setbacks to women's rights that libfem ideology has created.
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thehours2002 · 3 years
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i know this article is about to go off about why the hyperrealized fantasy is actually bad feminism, but yeah i think this might be the answer to why i love the nanny so much. it’s played up and exaggerated like a fairytale, but choosing to ground certain aspects in reality, like the central character’s name being the same as the actress who portrays her, a woman who also rose from the working class to wealth, creates an illusion that this fairytale story is possible. 
haven’t finished the article yet so i’m not 100% sure where it’s going but i think lesbian spectatorship of the show could subvert this wish fulfillment the show does because, if other queer women who find pleasure in this show are like me, they are not wishing to be fran fine, they are wishing to have fran fine, and are therefore not identifying with the protagonist of a rags to riches/fairytale story. the fairytale elements are appealing to me, but when my mind entertains fantasies about this show it is not about some lesbian verison of sheffield sweeping me off my feet; i imagine myself as the love interest who sweeps fran off her feet.
also, the nanny is what it is because of the network influencing fran and peter to shift the focus to a will they/won’t they between fran and sheffield. with full control over the series’ ending what they came up with would’ve been radically different, and (i suspect) much less heteronormative than how the show ended. and that final season is the fulfillment of the fairy tale at work, so i think it’s not very generous to pin this problematic on drescher herself
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i feel like trucy will be winning. too many campaigns for her. bimbo rights are evaporating
im fine if trucys wins truly. i wanted klavier to win for a klavier vs fran final battle but if feminism wins im ok w/ that
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paliaphrodite · 4 years
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fashion related models/influences you look up to 🧚🏽‍♀️💅🏽✨
I looked up to more tv personality//character types than model figures and influencers. I personally feel like models and Instagram influencers seem to be on another planet and I feel more connected and attached to television nostalgia (sigh) then them. also I feel that I have more inspiration from pop culture then I do from the runways but I still appreciate and love it just the same! ♡ yet to answer the question, iconic fashion related characters such as fran fine moschino trademarks from The Nanny ♡ ashley + hillary banks tomboy feminity from The Fresh Prince Of Bel Air ♡ jackie burkharts posh colour palette in That 70s Show ♡ carrie’s various shoe collection and use of tulle (the manola heels!!!) from Sex and The City ♡ the tanner girls 90s kidcore energy from Full House is a great mention cause they rock the high waisted mom jeans + layered tops ♡ the sailor scouts embracing their pastel classics of Sailor Moon ♡ cher and dianes prep from Clueless ♡ there are tons of inspo everywhere, even in cartoons but that’s for another post!
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88newszone-blog · 4 years
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'The Nanny' to Broadway? Fran Drescher, Rachel Bloom collab on musical
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She had style, she had flair, she was there – and now, with the help of a "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend," she's on the road to Broadway! A musical theater adaptation of the hit 90s sitcom "The Nanny" is currently in the works, with the help of a few seasoned TV veterans. The series' original creators Fran Drescher (who also starred as nanny Fran Fine on the show) and her ex-husband Peter Marc Jacobson are penning the book, while Rachel Bloom and Adam Schlesinger tackle the score. Bloom co-created, wrote, produced and starred in the CW musical series "Crazy Ex-Girlfriend," for which Schlesinger was an executive music producer, composer, musical director and writer. The cast of the new musical has yet to be determined.
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"Nobody is cast yet — we're plotting — but we feel confident we will find a fabulous actress who is funny, charming and has a great voice," Drescher and Jacobson said in a statement to USA TODAY. Drescher joked: "Of course I would do it myself, but we'd have to change the title to 'The Granny.' " Bloom explained how this project has special meaning for her. " 'The Nanny' was a fundamental part of my childhood because it was the first time I saw an openly Jewish female protagonist on television," she said in a statement. "The story of Fran Fine, however, is a universal one that has touched the hearts of people of every race, religion and orientation. I am so proud to be using the characters established by 'The Nanny' to tell a new story about one woman's journey to becoming proud of who she is and what makes her different." Marc Bruni, who directed the recent Broadway show "Beautiful: The Carole King Musical," is set to direct, and Brian and Scott Zeilinger are the project's producers. "The Nanny" ran for six seasons from 1993 to 1999 as it followed cosmetics saleswoman Fran Fine as she navigated life as a nanny to the three kids of a wealthy British widower, played by Charles Shaughnessy. In a statement to USA TODAY, Bruni described how the series "began from a familiar theatrical premise" similar to the Broadway classic "The Sound of Music." "But what if instead of Maria Rainer with her guitar, Fran Fine showed up on the doorstep of a fractured family?" he continued "Over its six seasons, the show examined class, coming of age, feminism, love and Broadway with heart and laughs. I am thrilled to be working with Fran, Peter, Rachel, and Adam in bringing these characters to the stage in a fresh new light that I hope will delight fans of the show, as well as capture the imagination of a new generation of theatre-goers.” Bloom expressed her excitement for the project Wednesday, posting the news to her Instagram and writing, "I CAN FINALLY SPEAK ABOUT MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THIS!" Instagram Drescher also showed her enthusiasm on her Instagram, writing, "The Nanny Musical Broadway Bound! Go online it’s all over the news!"
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joulethieves · 7 years
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airknight replied to your post: please throw me some modern au headcanons!...
FRICK i adore all of this so hard. god everyone is so active i cry. i wanna hang out with all of them but they’re still too good for me. Ashe as a feminism/environmental rebel is lovely. I want Basch to be happy in a comfy bed too lol. Let them all rest.
penelo yammering at vaan to do laundry
“pen it’s fine i washed my sheets 3 weeks ago” also why his entire wardrobe is 87 white t shirts so he doesnt have to do laundry but once every 3 months 
vaan being a good roomie and always bringing penelo’s weekly lululemon deliveries inside when he’s home first
penelo waking up to the sound of vaan in the alley next to the apartment building trying to start his moped and it won’t. fucking. start. he has to kick it a few times, yell a few more times, and cover himself in grease by the time he’s finally off
oh god. and him hogging the bike lane with his moped and ashe getting furious, even though it’s technically legal ... it’s not exactly welcomed. (also bikers are so fucking pretentious in the city about their laws and ashe gives him an earful at a stoplight and they’re yelling at each other and they keep running into each other. then she comes in his pizza place one day to pick up food for a nightly activist meeting and he gives them to her for free with a muttered apology and they’re on ok terms bc free pizza yay.)
oh no why is this all falling together easily
vaan sneaking into the race track and bringing pizza to sway balthier and fran. “can i drive that” “ABSOLUTELY NOT” “can i come on a ride” “with that little thing?” “no, asshole, take me on a ride” “you’re covered in grease” “my jacket isnt!” “yes it is i can smell it” “come ON i gave you PIZZA” “fine. hop on.” balthier just goes so fucking fast on purpose through all the winding roads outside the city at 2am and vaan is literally shaking by the time he gets off. “fast enough for you?” “y.yeah. yeah.....YEAH!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!! Again.” “maybe next time bye” “;_; bye...i’ll bring more pizza next time” balthier has actual bruises on his ribs the next day from how tightly vaan held him for dear fucking life
help help help HELP
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studywithjojo-blog · 7 years
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✨reading list✨
men explain things to me ~ rebecca solnit
sapiens: a brief history of humankind ~ yuval noah harari
eleanor & park ~ rainbow rowell
unspeakable things ~ laurie penny
feminist fight club ~ jessica bennett
bad feminist ~ roxane gay
born a crime ~ trevor noah
delusions of gender ~ cordelia fine
summer days and summer nights ~ stephanie perkins
i am brian wilson ~ brian wilson
the scarlet letter ~ nathaniel hawthorne
the unabridged journals of sylvia plath ~ sylvia plath
we should all be feminists ~ chimamanda ngozi adichie 
sex object ~ jessica valenti
drag teen ~ jeffery self
memories ~ lang leav
living history ~ hillary clinton
wuthering heights ~ emily bronte
the purity myth ~ jessica valenti
settle for more ~ megyn kelly
tales of mystery and imagination ~ edgar allen poe
feminism is for everybody ~ bell hooks 
are we smart enough to know how smart animals are? ~ frans de wall
this poem is a house ~ ken sparling
the virginity of famous men ~ christine sneed
the beauty myth ~ naomi wolf
eat pray love ~ elizabeth gilbert
stalin’s daughter ~ rosemary sullivan
room ~ emma donoghue
sex itself ~ sarah s. richardson
gone girl ~ gillian flynn
ma, he sold me for a few cigarettes ~ martha long
the princess saves herself in this one ~ amanda lovelace
hello my name is vegan freak ~ bob & jenna torres
girl detached ~ manuela salvi
sloppy firsts ~ megan mccafferty
not that kind of girl ~ siobhan vivian
the alchemist ~ paul coelho
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marywong030-blog · 7 years
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Seminar 2
Cooking up the Self Bobby Baker and Blondell Cummings “Do” the Kitchen
In this article, Lesley Ferris examines the solo performance work of two artists - Bobby Baker and Blondell Cummings. Bobby Baker’s Kitchen Show (1991) and Blondell Cummings’s Chicken Soup (1988) are both autobiographical pieces. Unlike the ordinary and conventional stage architecture, both artists have situated their work in the kitchen, a place recognized as feminine.
Bobby Baker's Kitchen Show  (1991)
Kitchen show is a performance piece which saw Baker open her kitchen to the public and exhibit a set of live actions, Baker's kitchen is both the site and the subject of her performance, and Baker as the agent within the kitchen. Kitchen Show is trying to bring the details of her life and experiences of being in a kitchen doing routine works. It makes you consider about why you do things.  Her purpose is to transform the ordinary into the noble. Certainly, the contemplation of small actions provokes questions on a bigger scale, both personal and political. Little things make a big difference. Bobby Baker believes that our domestic relationships influence world affair. Meanwhile, Bobby Baker denies this long-held myth of man transforming woman by presenting herself as an artwork. Instead of the idealized prettiness of male fantasy, she is increasingly dirtied, blacken by the traces of her kitchen work.
Blondell Cummings’s Chicken Soup (1988)
Chicken Soup rooted in childhood recollections of her grandmother at everyday experiences like washing and cooking in the kitchen and featured her dancing with a frying pan and scrubbing the floor. Cummings performs scenes located in a 1950’s style kitchen; Cummings took the stage alongside a shopping bag. To a soundtrack that included music by Ms. Monk, Brian Eno and Collin Walcott; words by Grace Paley; and a soup recipe read aloud from “The Settlement Cook Book,” she sat in a kitchen chair, scrubbed the floor and danced with a frying pan. Chicken Soup is short, compressed, and succinct. Cummings evokes the kitchen table as the site of her family history, a history cohesively held together by the stories and presence of women. Each sign, every gesture is imbued with more than one meanings, giving the spectator an opportunity to become actively involved in its interpretation. This sense of multiplicity leads us to see Cummings's body as multivocal, speaking for the many women in her family.
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House: from Display to BACK to FRONT
The second essay written by Katy Deepwell focuses on Fran Cottell’s installation work House: from Display to BACK to FRONT. It discusses the idea of turning one’s home into an installation space, highlighting that the presentation of one’s artworks isn’t restricted to a formal exhibition space such as a museum or gallery.
Fran Cottell is an artist and Senior Lecturer at Camberwell College of Arts in MA fine art / BA Context. Cottrell's living artworks exist as ephemeral shared experiences for audiences, beginning and ending with her exhibitions, and engage themes of feminism, identity politics, cultural hierarchies and unwritten histories.
In her project Display (2001), Cottell has used her own house as both subject and experimental space for her performance. She built a platform running through the center of her home with mesh walls dividing the public corridor and private domestic area. The platform guides the visitors through the house where they can see the often messy living arrangements, musical instruments, piles of books, and other collectibles. These architectural interventions effectively changed her family environment into a museum display. It created an interaction between spectators and her household as live works of art.
“My work questions how to show the ephemeral, life experiences that make up the quotidian within the fixed frame of the art institution.”
“I engaged in dialogue with museums and galleries about the static nature of collections and their inability to collect life, live art and time and created, through a hole in the ceiling, in the form of reverse collecting, a photographic collection of visiting curators’ heads,”  says Cottrell
Similarities between Kitchen Show, Chicken Soup, Display.
Kitchen Show, Chicken Soup, Display are performed by different artists in a different period; they do share lots of similarities regarding the idea, concept, and form.
All of this performance provoke the notion of outside/inside, private/public. In Greek drama, there is a clear line between outside and inside. The traditional stage space is identified as an outside area. The door implies a domestic interior, a hidden, confidential room in which the woman is kept and dominated by man. Cottrell, Baker and Cumming’s work conflict with this idea by turning inside out. The personal and private space - house and even kitchen become a public area for performance; Actresses, women, socially and culturally relegated to the domesticity, to inside space become public women with autonomy.
Kitchen Show and Display challenge the historical and conventional concept of the actress. There is a long-held notion that actress is inferior to actors, and they are “natural” actress without any real acting skill. People treated them as “merely women” instead of an artistic creator. Meanwhile, autobiography has been regarded as the male province and private forms of writing considered as women’s genre. Baker and Cummins’s successful performance subvert these historical views. 
Also, both aimed at challenge hierarchies by shifting the view away from the expected primary focus, whether amongst people or buildings or things to reconsider the relationship between function and value. In the artwork Kitchen and Display, viewers are not just a viewer; they are a part of the performance, the environment, and the art space. The viewers have a significant meaning to the performance. Their responses and interpretations influence the play; the audience becomes part of the art. 
The above performance/installation artists provoke and subvert a lot of long-held notion in Art History, such as the boundary of inside and outside of art space, the role of spectator, the ability of actress. I don’t have any Fine Art background before, so when I first get into the Art educational environment, I always question myself: What is Art? After reading these article, I start to have a small picture of “Art” in my mind. The spirit of Art is to keep questioning and challenging idea. Challenging for good but not for disruption. We are born in the world with a lot of theories, concepts, and norms that we took for granted. But are these knowledge or idea always be “true”? These articles have enlightened me that NEVER restrict yourself to the NORM. Make the definition by yourself, not by the society. NEVER afraid of breaking the long-held myth. There is no black or white, and there is a lot of a grey area in Art worth us to study. Last but not least, stay true to yourself!
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Milan is buliding a  Library of Trees. Groups of trees will grow into natural rooms of different colours.  It provokes the notion of the definition of the library. Similar to how Cummings play with the “space”
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