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ottomanladies · 1 month
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reallifesultanas Thank you very much for your answer! Yes I meant Dumas not Alderson sorry for that! Is there a reason for the illogical amount of salaries? I mean the earlier salary lists of registers clearly help us to indentify the sultanas. The 1555-1556 registers are 100% logical; the 1603-1604 registers are still logical: Safiye, Handan, aunts of Ahmed, great-aunt of Ahmed, great-great aunt's daughter (Ayse Hümasah), cousin of Mehmed III, far relatives. But then there is this one.. highest salary for the full sisters of the sultan is logical, but then what does the daughters of Murad III doing there? Fahri/Kamer and Hümaşah/Rukiye* are surely Murads and so Ümmügülsüm could be also Murad's... For the lesser salaries Beyhan, Safiye, Hatice I could imagine they were Mehmed III's, maybe Beyhan's Mustafa was Mirahur Mustafa? But these stipends are just not logical... (*Murad III's daughte Rukiye was said to be married to Nakkas Hasan not Huma). And for Ümmügülsüm there is that one report from 1688 (Katherine Trumbull) when it is said she developed a relationship with Sultana Ümmühan, the aunt of the deposed Sultan Mehmed IV, through visits to the harem. This Ümmühan could be Halil Pasha's wife and so Murad III's/Mehmed III's daugher, or is it more likely not an aunt but sister/cousin? Or she truly can be Ahmed I's daughter? There is this 85 numaralı Mühimme defteri that provide some informations suggesting suggesting Ümmügülsüm was sister of Murad IV. Sadly I dont have the book so I cannot check how true is this claim...
I hope you don't mind if we continue here on ottomanladies.
I know the harem register doesn’t seem to make sense from the point of view of hierarchy but we must remember that the hierarchy could be broken on the basis of favouritism. Maybe those aunts were more favoured than the others.
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In this table we can see Gevherhan Sultan, a great-aunt of Ahmed I’s, the reigning sultan. Dumas mistakenly identifies her as a daughter of Murad III’s and a concubine of non-haseki rank, but the reality is she’s first because she’s the most senior princess alive. If you look closely at the second category — “Frais de bouche” — she receives the same amount as Ayse and Fatma, Safiye’s daughters. Gevherhan was quite favoured by Ahmed I because she had trained Handan in her household. Also, her late husband Cerrah Mehmed Pasha had performed Ahmed I’s circumcision. Borekçi says that she was the only recipient — apart from Handan and Safiye — of sable fur:
“A register preserved in the Topkapı Palace Archives gives further details of the gifts Gevherhan Sultan received from her great grand-cousin. At the beginning of this register, there are records of the furs and robes of honor sent by the new sultan to his larger family right after his enthronement on December 27, 1603. Here, Gevherhan Sultan is listed as a recipient of a sable robe (semmûr kaplu nimtâne) and recorded as the third female member of the dynasty after the retiring queen mother, Safiye Sultan, and the new queen mother, Handan Sultan, and before all other living sisters and daughters of Murad III and Mehmed III -- a clear indication of her privileged position. Later, on February 6, 1604, she again appears in the register, this time as the only female family member apart from Handan Sultan to receive a fur-trimmed silk robe.”
(I believe the 6 şehzâdegân are unmarried princesses that Ahmed still had to matchmake but this is another story)
I know it’s Rukiye that Öztuna says has married Nakkaş Hasan Pasha but he could be wrong tbh, it wouldn’t be the first time. Also, neither Sakaoğlu or Uluçay confirm this; they give no information about Rukiye except for the identity of her mother. Unfortunately Öztuna never gives his sources so we don’t know where he found that Rukiye was married to Nakkaş Hasan Pasha. I would trust the harem register and contemporary sources (the ragusian diplomat, in this case) more tbh… both say that Nakkaş Hasan Pasha was married to a princess called Hümaşah…
About Beyhan… the problem is the wife of Mirahur Mustafa Pasha went on to marry Cigalazade Sinan Pasha’s son Mahmud Bey in 1612, and died before 1620, the date of Mahmud Bey’s second wedding, which means she shouldn’t have been alive in 1638-39. The Ragusian letter date 1648, though, lists a Beyhan Sultan widow of “Nideli Mustafa Pasha”— unfortunately, I can’t say who this man is or what “nideli” means.
I do agree with you, though. I think that Beyhan, Safiye, and Hatice are daughters of Mehmed III. We know that seven princesses were married in the summer of 1613, after all. A letter dated July 1613 by a Ragusian diplomat, furthermore, says that “at the present there are fifteen sultanas”.
About Katherine Trumbull, I guess you mean this:
“While in Istanbul, Katherine had developed a relationship with Sultana Ümmühan, Mehmed IV’s aunt and sister to Ibrahim II. On 14 July 1688, Katherine met with Ümmühan for the first time, and the two women continued to meet in the imperial harem throughout Trumbull’s residence in Istanbul. During these visits, Katherine must have been accompanied by someone with knowledge of spoken Turkish, or else it is unclear how she would have been able to communicate with the women she met in the harem. At any rate, when she returned to the embassy, she brought to Trumbull news of things taking place in the Ottoman court.” — Ghobrial, John-Paul A, 'Overcoming Distance in Everyday Communication', The Whispers of Cities: Information Flows in Istanbul, London, and Paris in the Age of William Trumbull (Oxford, 2013; online edn, Oxford Academic, 23 Jan. 2014)
Unfortunately, William Trumbull’s diaries were not published, they’re in the British Library. I always like to cross-check my sources and the fact that I can’t read the original kind of annoys me. Ümmühan is quite an unusual name for an Ottoman princess: Ümmi means mother and Han sovereign, it kind of sounds like “valide sultan”, which is why I thought it was a title for a moment but I couldn’t find anything to confirm this. It is kind of interesting, though, that Öztuna says that Ibrahim’s eldest daughter was called Ümmügülsüm, who could have been named after another Ümmügülsüm (the one that in 1622 was unmarried? Who knows)
The Mühimme defteri is not a book but a collection of copies of all the imperial decrees or decisions taken in the imperial council. They’re numbered and the number 85 refers to the years 1630-31. You can find the PDF for free on the website of the Turkish National Archives but, well, it’s in Ottoman Turkish.
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(This is one of them)
So I can’t really read it even though I have it.
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reallifesultanas · 23 days
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Lets talk about Ümmügülsüm Sultan
There is a chance, that Kösem and Ahmed had another daughter together: Ümmügülsüm.
I am so glad, that with Anonymous sender and Ottomanladies, the truth came to light. Ottomanladies answered very long and very detailed about Ümmügülsüm, she shared her thoughts about the topic, now, here, you can find a conclusion from me:
What we know:
A privy purse register from 1622 gives the names of five unmarried princesses, who may be daughters of Ahmed, Osman II, and even Mehmed III: Umm-i Külsum(=Ümmügülsüm), Hanzade, Halime, Fatma, and Akile. Hanzade and Fatma were Kösem's daughters; Akile is possibly mistaken for Atike or Abide; Halime might be Mehmed III's daughter, named after her mother, Halime. But Ümmügülsüm was less clear.
The relazione of Angelo Alessandri from 1637 says that Murad IV had four FULL-sisters. We know three of them: Ayse, Fatma, and Hanzade. But who could be the fourth? Gevherhan was already dead, Atike was well-knownly not a full-sister and also not Abide. Maybe Ümmügülsüm?
There are some decisions and letters of Murad IV, where he mentions Ümmügülsüm as a sister of his. He uses the same wording that he used for Ayse, who undoubtedly was his full-sister, suggesting Ümmügülsüm was also a full-sister of his.
The 1638/39 harem registers mention one Ümmügülsüm Sultan who received the highest payments besides the three already known daughters of Kösem (Ayse, Fatma, Hanzade) and two daughters of Murad III. This means she could be either the daughter of Murad III or Ahmed I. But since Ahmed I's other daughter, Atike - who was not Kösem's - got a lesser stipend, if Ümmügülsüm is Ahmed I's daughter, she had to be Kösem's daughter too and so she is the fourth full-sister of Sultan Murad IV.
In 1648 the Raguzan envoy also mentions her (possibly her as they use the name Iumi), as the wife of Ahmed Pasha, governor of Herzegovina. They probably married ~1642 until the pasha's death in 1648. This was her second marriage, her first husband was one Halil Pasha, with whom she married before 1638.
In book ''Whisper of the cities'' one Ümmühan Sultan is mentioned as she met with the English ambassador's wife. Based on her, Ümmühan was said to be the aunt of deposed Mehmed IV and sister of Ibrahim I. This happened in 1690, so she still was alive then.
There are still questions:
Why no historian ever discovered this information as none of the evidence is new?
Why Ümmi is not mentioned among Ahmed I's children?
Where is she buried? *
When was she born? *
Why Ibrahim did not force her to serve Telli Hümasah (his wife) when he did it to all of the other daughters of Kösem?
To be honest the burial place of Ahmed I is quite a mess. For example there are two sarcofagies for 'Zeynep' daughters of Ahmed I. One of the sarcofagies stands for an adult woman. There was no daughter of Ahmed, called Zeynep who reached adulthood. So maybe the name is mistaken and that Ümmügülsüm. Maybe she was buried somewhere else as she lived a quite long life, survivin everyone around her and her grave is not idetified yet.
Considering the known children of Kösem and their birth date, the most possible for Ümmügülsüm is that she was born during the late reign of Ahmed I. In 1605 Kösem gave birth to Mehmed; in 1606 or 1607 to Ayse; then in 1607 or 1608 to Fatma; in 1609 to Hanzade. While I see that there is a gap here for one more child (if Kösem got pregnant extremely rapidly), she cannot be older than Fatma, as she was also not married off in 1622 yet, and also since we know quite precisely the sequence of these daughters, I do not think another one was born here but no one knows about her. It would be strange. Then in 1612, she gave birth to Murad, but between him and Hanzade there was time for another child - let it be Selim who was born in 1611 or Ümmügülsüm. Then Kasim followed Murad quite quickly, he was born in 1614, and then Ibrahim came in 1615, so there was no time for anyone else between Murad and Ibrahim. After 1615 there is another chance for the birth of Ümmügülsüm. So she either was born after Hanzade (~1611), or after Ibrahim (~1616). Either way - considering she was not just still alive in 1690, but was surely not suffering, dying since she was involved in the diplomacy meeting - she possibly died in the 1690s, she very probably reached 80 maybe even more in the end.
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Power and status of ottoman princess
Title and honorifics
Before the rule of sultan Bayazid II every high ranking woman were called Hatuns,including mother,sisters,aunts and daughters, however thier social standing was naturally higher than non imperial women. The way to adrress them was Hatun that was used after their given name,for example, Gevherhan hatun,daughter of Mehmed the coqueror or effendi that would have similar meaning as mistress.
After accession of Bayazid II his daughters and granddaughters were given title of sultan,however non of his living sisters or aunts got the honor. Later on proper way to adress them woulf become “Sultanim”, which would mean “my sultan”,or again “effendim” by other members of imperial family. I would like to underline that contrary to what wikipedia states, there is no records that I know,where princesses where called with “Devletlu İsmetlu” like Valide sultan and Haseki sultan were.
The term “sultana” that was made more feminine by Europeans never existed in ottoman language.
Family, Marrige and Issues
I want to start discussing their family with brothers,it’s widely known fact that before suleyman there was “once concubine,one son” tradition therefore if shehzade/Sultan had full-sisters they were all older,that is one way to deduce if princess of unspecified mother was full sister of half sister of reigning sultan. Naturally Shezades had closer relationship to their full sisters as they were leaving with him and their mother,when he was appointed as governor of princely province. Their latter life would be spent in their brother’s harem before marriage.
being half sister of sultan did not automatically mean that their relationship would have been stained,however mostly,princess would favour full-brother over half,but were treated by same respect regardless who ascended the throne. It was different case when imperial princess had no full brother at all,for example Sah Huban, she had very close relationship with Suleyman,even closer than his deeply respected full sisters.
Their marriages,much like any other princesses of any country, was political,arranged by their parents to strengthen standing of their father or brother,for example daughters of Selim I were firstly married to powerful politicians,so their father would have supporters in his rebellion,while their second marriages were arranged to help Suleyman in his early reign. Their husbands were usually much older than them, therefore marital life was likely not consensual and in no way their choice. For example,Rustem paha,husband of Mihrimah,was same age as Hurrem,her daughter’s fate was even worse as she had to marry peer of her own grandfather,however given the fact that they had 8 children,marriage can be considered successful. After the Marriage princesses were getting their own little “Harrem”,where they had great rooms for themselves and their servants,where even their Husbands needed permission to enter and even refuse to have sexual intercourse with them,sometimes their marriage could end unconsumated and after some time princess could use another of their privilege-divorce. Reason of divorce could have been different: Personal attitude,mistreatment,political move or adultery. It was made clear,especially by Suleyman,that imperial princesses were full-fledged members of imperial family so they ranked higher than their husbands,therefore having relationship with other women was their humiliation,which would lead to divorce, after which they would retire in old palace and could refuse to remarry again.
Only their first degree descendants would be given imperial titles.
Daughters- Hanimsultan(with Ayse Humashah as exception)
Sons-Sultanzades. They ranked even below non-sultan imperial consorts and some of the highest ranking harem servants.
Hierarchy and Power
They actually had equal standing in ottoman hierarchy. As female members of dynasty they had the same status and privileges,were reffered as sultans and often received relative stipend.( Which was on average 200 akche a day, for comparison, Valide sultan had around 2000-3000 depended on time period, Haseki sultan 1000-1100(Hurrem as only exception,who got stipend of Valide sultan ) Gulfem,who was almost regarded as member of family herself was recieving 150, Nurbanu’s trusted friend and one of the highest ranking non-sultan woman ever Canfeda received 200, Mahidevran only received 40 and avarage stipend of cariye was 2-4) Besides, sisters of sultans were technically daughters of sultan, though the deceased one, still they were treated with great respect much like their late father. However, birth order was important thing in ottoman society so younger sister respected older and bowed to them as well as nieces bowing to aunts regardles of their martial or fianacal status. Therefore saughters of sultan,as nieces, were calling sisters of sultan,as aunts, “effendi" out of respect.
In conclusion, even if they had same social standing, sisters of sultan were still bit ahead daughters of sultan formally.
However, Granddaughters, Nieces and cousins of sultan,despite the same rank, were less prestigious.
Despite their relative social status and order of birth their actual power was dependent on several factors:
1. Their relationship with Padishah,Valide sultan or Haseki sultan. They had higher rank and much more evident political power, they still needed their permissions about major decisions,even if it were their right, so being on good terms with them was a good move. Half-sisters naturally were not as favoured as full-sisters by Valide sultan,but with padisah had more options, they could have been supportive, religious, charitable and obedient another way was sending beautiful, well-educated concubines,who could have become Haseki(after 1533), that is when their good relationship begun,most of Sultanate of women memebers were raised at their court and remained in favour after they became Valide Sultans, in that case even some of the Padisah’s expressed gratitude and gratefulness for raising their mother, (such occasion was Ahmed I’s attitude towards her aunt which I will discuss below.), they could also donate money to wars, harem managements and charitable projects, either all their own or assist Haseki sultan.
2. The second way to gain power was wealth. Money opens many doors and it was like that in the past. They could establish some business or even receive bribes.
3. They could also gain power with marriages, it was not only beneficial for their brothers,but for them as well. If their husband had a high rank, they could keep an eye on the political situation and act accordingly, they would use that influence to assist their brothers, who,In turn, would be extremely grateful for their support.
Comparison between Ottoman and European princess
Status- Status of European princesses depended on their marriage. Being princes was not guaranteed power,but only a formal status. For example, Margaret Tudor was below prince Henry in rank but when she married by proxy to Scottish king, she outranked him and demonstrated that by walking in front of him. On the other hand, another sister Mary married to Charles Brandon and was Duchess of Suffolk ever since,while Status of Imperial princess remained the same.
Opportunity- European princesses could have become Queen consort and Queen mother and veiled immense power, while imperial princesses could never become Haseki or Valide.
Marriage- Ottoman princesses were usually older when married and outranked their husbands,while European princesses were always below their husbands. Sultan could also refuse remarryin,while European princesses had no such right
Freedom-European princesses were less limited by social customs.
Consummation-Ottoman princesses had the right to refuse Consummation without a deadline, while European princesses had to Consummate marriage even if they were twelve, unless of course parents arranged it other way.
Divorce - it was right of ottoman princesses to divorce their husbands,while for European princesses it was a rare privilege.
Despite so many differences, one thing was same- they had a loveless purely political match .
Powerful ottoman princesses
Here I Rank ottoman princesses,who had considerable power and influence, sorted by date of birth.
P.S gifs are from MC and MC:K,but some characters might represent different historical figures.
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Fatma sultan
Fatma may have been the second child of Ayşe Hafsa and Selim I . She was born in Trabzon around 1492 and spent her childhood there. When her younger brother Süleyman received his own princely province in 1509, she probably accomponied him to Caffa with their mother.
She was married in 1516 for the first time,but it soon ended in divorce and Fatma returned to Manisa. She gained considerable influence as she was most likely the sister,who was recorded to be in Manisa, helping mother manage harem and protect Suleyman from their father. If legends are true and Selim was indeed trying to kill Suleyman,that she had hands in saving him. Most likely, Fatma and her mother were instructing young sukeyman,how not to deserve the wrath of father and covering his mistakes. After Suleyman ascended the throne, she was married again to Kara Ahmed pasha in 1522. Marriage lasted long,but did not produce any child, so either fatma was infertile (Kara Ahmed pasha had two daughters that are disputed to be fatmas,but they were likely from previous marriage) or the match was not happy and Fatma refused sexual intercourse, however considering her reaction to his death, it was most likely the former.
According to what we have Fatma seems to be quite free spirited as depicted in the series. She was wealthy, cunning and might have been fond of parties. She had hands in financing some of her brother’s campaigns and even won the favour of janissrries. However, in 1555 Kara Ahmed pasha was executed by the efforts of Mihrimah and Hurrem and Fatma was married to eunuch and banished from the capital for hed intrigues against them She died either in 1557 or 1573.
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Sah huban sultan
Daughter of Selim I and unknown concubine, born in 1500. As she has no full brothers, she was very close to Suleyman and their father, with whom she spent most of her childhood. Considering Suleyman’s great respect for her, Sah was likely a supporter of him and helped to deal with Selim I.
She was married in 1523 to well-educated and intelligent Lutfi pasha with whom she shared religious thoughts and beliefs. Marriage, however did not seem to be successful the couple only had one daughter and Sah refused to have a sexual relationship ever since. She was very pious, intelligent,outspoken and fierce in nature. In the only description of her daughter Esmahan Burnaz, it is said that she was arrogant and demanding and it was Shah’s domineering attitude in the family that was blamed for it, as by this “she had ruined the role of woman” in the child’s mind. However,that was recorded by the European ambassador only, who had never met any of them and probably heard some rumors or made it up after an ugly end of their marriage.
In 1541, Lutfi pasha punished a prostitute for adultery by mutilating her genitals.Şah could not tolerate the humiliation and mutilation of a woman without a word, which is why she got into an argument with her husband, who hit her . Şah had Lutfi pasha beaten up and immediately asked his brother to allow the divorce. Süleyman then exiled him. Şah remained with her brother in Istanbul for the rest of her life and supported the wife of Süleyman, Hürrem, in carrying out her construction projects. She lived a modest life in the Old Palace and devoted all her time to charity and religion. Shah had excellent relationship with Hurrem and Mihrimah and in my opinion, close bond between aunt and niece helped young sultan to shape her mind and characteristics. She died in 1572 and was buried in her father’s complex.
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Mihrimah Sultan(1522-1576)
Her life is very much known. She was the most powerful imperial princess in the empire, so I will just list some of her achievements:
1. Her stipend was 600 akches a day during the reign of three different Sultans. it was three times as much as regular pirncess
2. She had correspondence with Catherine de Medici and other foreigner diplomats, who would often send her gifts to help them in some political affairs.
3. She financed some of Suleyman’s campaigns all her own
4. She built a whole fleet of 400 ships.
5. She had three palaces and two mosques
6. She served as sole de facto Valide from 1558 to 1566 and shared it with Nurbanu from 1566 to 1574.
7. After the death of Bayazid Mihrimah banned everyone from laughing and sent back clothes to Suleyman and Selim who were secretly planning a grandiose wedding, that was cancelled by Mihrimah and instead a very plain ceremony was held.
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Humasah 1543-c.1582 or later
She was a posthanous daughter of Shehzade Mehmed and despite being only a daughter of prince, she was given the same privileges,but greater power, as any other sultans. She was one of two favourite grandchildren of Hurrem and Suleyman. She married three times,but the source of her power was a good relationship with Sultans. She was the one who raised Safiye and gifted her to Murad, so her power reached it’s peak during his reign.
She financed many construction projects,but was buried in a mosque that was built by Hurrem and Suleyman for her father.
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Ayse Humasah 1543-1594.
Daughter of Mihrimah sultan and Rustem pasha, she was practically the same as her cousin with whom she shared many things started from date of birth and ended with their name. Ayse Humasah was the only woman born to an ottoman princess,who was herself addressed as sultan and her children were considered members of the dynasty. She was married two times and her influence was extremely great during the reign of three Sultans. Her power reached it’s peak, when her husband was appointed a grand Vizier and she had hands in very major political decision.
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Gevherhan Sultan. 1544-after 1526.
Eldest child of Nurbanu and Selim. She was married to Piyale Pasha, an admiral who died in 1578 and she was remarried in 1579. She was one who raised Handan and gifted it to the prince, for which not only Handan was grateful, but her son Ahmed as well, who after his accession gifted very expensive furs to Handan, Gevherhan and Safiye. The second gifts were given to Handan and Gevherhan only,which indicates that unlike Safiye,she never fell from his favour. Peak of her power was from 1598 during her husband’s grand vazirate. She did a lot of charity in her life.
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Ismahan sultan 1545-1585
Daughter of Selim and Nurbanu,she was married to Sokollu Mehmed Pasha and Through her husband and her own rank, Esmehan was the most influential sultana of the empire for years. In wealth, only her aunt, Mihrimah, could overtake her, but in influence, almost no one could. She constructed several projects and had foreign diplomatic affairs, most notable her correspondence with Catherine de Medici. She had a very artistic and dramatic personality, often throwing parties and shows. She was recorded to be very much alike Hurrem,both of them were short, not conventionally beautiful,but very intelligent. She was heavily involving herself in politics with her mother.
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Burnaz Atike Sultan
Sultan Atike was born in 1614 or 1615 and although some sources consider her to be the daughter of Kösem, she was certainly not her child. That can be supported by the fact that she supported Turhan’s rebellion and had a good relationship even after kosem was killed. She was one who raised Turhan and remained in friendly terms for both Turhan’s gratitude and their shared politican views. Atike was noted to love children very much,but had none on her own, so she was involved in raising her nephew,who regarded her as second mother and listened to every of her advice.
She died around 1570.
I hope you liked it, I think it’s unfair to only talk about Mihrimah,while there were so many powerful and intelligent Princesses. I did not talk about Esma sultan as she was in later centuries and I am not fond of her times.
Which ottoman princesses are you favourites?
If i accedentaly missed something out you can ask it in comments
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Handan was born in Bosnia around 1570. She was educated by Gevherhan Sultan, daughter of Sultan Selim II. She was giftet to prince Mehmed future Mehmed III. Handan gave birth to at least 4 childern. She was the mother of Ahmed I.Handan was the first female co-regent of the ottoman empire since her son Ahmed I ascended the throne as 13 years old teenage-boy. Ahmed didn't serve in province so he wasn't able to build alliances. In the first months of Ahmed's reign, Ahmed, Handan, grand vezir Ali Pasha and Ahmed's teacher Mustafa efendi met to discuss state affairs. The three men spoke face to face while Handan stayed behind the spanish wall. Few months later Handan steped back from politics and her salary was reduced. The whole thing is probably Handan's idea because she wanted Ahmed to be the opposite from his late father Mehmed III, who was overruled by his mother, Safiye Sultan. It is a known fact that Safiye was hated by soliders and even common people, so Handan suggested that Ahmed I sends her to the old palace. Handan had healthissues. In 1605 her situation worsened, especially after Ahmed executed one of her trusted men, Sinanpashaoglu Ahmed Pasha (son in law of Gevherhan Sultan who raised Handan)
On 9th November 1605, Valide Handan Sultan died, she is burried in Hagia Sofia, in Mehmed III's masoleum.
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Sisters in Muhtesem Yuzyil
Row 1: Fatma Sultan and Sah Huban Sultan
Row 2: Esmahan Sultan, Gevherhan Sultan and Sah Sultan
Row 3: Hatice Sultan and Beyhan Sultan
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Süleyman & Sisters - Headcannons
- We never learn what the exact order of siblings is in the show, and it sure as hell isn’t the same as in history, otherwise I would have to believe Selma Ergeç is older than Halit Ergenç, which... NO. In my interpretation, Beyhan is the oldest, Süleyman is the second, Şah the third, Hatice fourth and Fatma the youngest.
- Hafsa, Şehzade a Gevherhan may still exist, but have different mothers than Süleyman. Şehzade and Gevherhan are much younger than Süleyman, so they don’t interact much. Hafsa is a year younger just like in history, but during childhood he interacts with her less than he does with his full-blooded sisters and after she marries, they grow apart completely. Şehzade and Gevherhan are still little girls when Süleyman leaves for Manisa, and after his ascention they live in the Old Palace untill marriage.
- Beyhan is the wise older sister that is mostly above it all and oh-so-much mature than her siblings. As a teenager, she hates Fatma, because she’s the only one whose shenanigans can penetrate her façade and either make her laugh or genuinely piss her off.
- Şah is close in age to Süleyman and there is this intense rivalry between them for their mothers’ affections. Because of this, despite receiving less impressive education from her tutors than her brother, she ends up knowing more than him at a younger age, just out of spite. Later, she becomes the smug intellectual of the group, and Hatice and Fatma think she’s a lame nerd.
- Hatice is the big softie who just wants to get along with everyone, and all of her sisters love her for that, except for Şah, who thinks she’s the lame one.
- Fatma is the baby of the family, spoiled by the whole family, untill she grows up into a hyperactive prankster. Sometimes, she is the most annoying kid in the world and Beyhan even jokes at her wedding that at least she’s getting away from Fatma.
- Süleyman is the favourite child of Ayşe Hafsa, both because he is Selim’s precious heir and because he’s her only surviving son. Selim, on the other hand, absolutely adores Şah, which is probably what kickstarts their increasingly bad relationship.
- Fatma’s first prank was during a celebratory dinner at Beyhan’s wedding, which leads to Ayşe Hafsa personally spanking her. This leads to a feud between her and Selim’s mother, who knows this is decidedly not a proper way to raise royal children.
- Şah used to have a massive crush on Ibrahim, that’s true, but she was, like, seventeen and in the she grew out of it pretty quickly. Namely when her new husband showed her his massive library.
- Fatma married that old dude from the beginning of season 4 was against her will, and for the first few years he spent a lot of time “visiting” (read running away to) her siblings, even half-sisters. She was forbidden from coming to Istanbul, however, because she was just that annoying, and the only reason she came back eventually was because Süleyman in his old age just forgot how annoying she can be.
- All of the girls were taught needlework as part of their education, but only Beyhan and Hatice kept it as a hobby untill adulthood. Şah gave up on needlework after Beyhan kept bragging about how much better she is at it, so Şah, unable to best her, came to the conclusion that needlework is stupid anyway. Fatma was never into it in the first place.
- Süleyman has drank wine several times in his life. Beyhan drinks wine exactly once, and that is at Süleyman’s prompting when visiting him at Manisa. Hatice does so several times when married to Ibrahim and every time she thinks she will like it, but doesn’t, so she’s mad at Ibrahim for giving her the idea. Fatma is of course the vodka (or rather raki) aunt of the family, that’s practically cannon. Şah has never drank a single drop of alcohol, because she’s the Good Muslim (tm) of the family and judges all the rest of them filthy heathens.
- Selim had several sisters, and they sometimes come to visit him and his family. Everyone dreads their visits, because they are super judgemental and hate Ayşe Hafsa for reasons that completely escape the kids.
- Ayşe Hafsa actually gets along pretty well with Selim’s mother, and his kids adore grandma. Unfortunately, she dies before Selim becomes a sultan. Fatma is her favourite grandchild and becomes extremely emotional at her funeral, inappropriately so, which Ayşe Hafsa writes off as just her making a scene for attention. In the end, only Hatice is able to console her.
- When Beyhan is a little kid and Şah just a toddler, she thinks Şah’s full name being long is the funniest shit ever, and can’t stop intentionally mispronouncing it. Süleyman agrees and sometimes joins her. Then three year old Şah starts to correct them, but at first she mispronounces it too, just unintentionally. Eventually, Beyhan stops thinking it’s funny, but it takes a while for Süleyman to catch on. Before that, he gets smacked by Şah several times for making fun of her name.
- Selim buys all of his daughters horses and tries to teach them how to ride. They are universally terrible at it, though it takes a while for Hatice to admit it, because she loves her horse and wants to be around it.
- Hatice as a little girl gets along with animals in general. When she’s five, she gets a cat as a gift from her dad, a Turkish angora. She names it Süleyman, loves it to bits and when the cat dies of old age, she is devastated and vows to never own any other cat. Fatma sometimes jokes that the reason she loves Ibrahim so much is because he reminds her of that cat.
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Was Selim II monogamous too ? Can you please give us some interesting facts about Nurbanu and Selim's relationship like you did with her son Murad and his consort Safiye
When it comes to his princely years it’s debatable, after he ascended the throne he surely produced several sons that had mothers other than Nurbanu. Actually, Nurbanu didn’t give birth to any more children after Selim became sultan, but similarly to Safiye she remained the closest woman to her padişah and received the highest stipend. Other mothers of Selim’s sons don’t even have their names mentioned in register, they are only referred to as “mother of prince X”. Nurbanu definitely established her position during Selim’s princely years, likely managing his harem, since Hürrem stayed in capital.
Leslie Peirce originally wrote in the Imperial Harem that Selim and Mustafa (in contrast to Bayezid and his large family) practiced reproductive monogamy during their princely years, but she contradicted it in her newest publication, the Empress of the East:
This prince [Mustafa] was not a prolific reproducer, however, at least in comparison to his half brother Selim, who would have three concubines pregnant not long after his arrival in Konya.
Later she mentions that:
Both she [Hurrem] and Cihangir were doubtless delighted to meet the three daughters who had been born to the prince in his first year as governor in Anatolia. The mother of one, Nurbanu, would go on to become Selim’s favorite consort and mother of his first son, Murad.
And:
Selim left behind the onetime experience of a politically active queen working alongside a monogamous king and its perhaps unintended corollary, a mother dividing her loyalty among several princes. Selim did, however, establish a favorite: Nurbanu, mother of his first son, Murad. He was far from monogamous; nor was she celebrated as his queen, although he allegedly married and dowered her.
Curiously, Öztuna thinks that three daughters usually attiributed to Nurbanu, i.e.  Ismihan, Gevherhan and Şah, were these three daughters born in the same year and Nurbanu was only mother of one, Ismihan. He also claims that Nurbanu’s other children were Murad (indisputable) and Fatma (disputable, as I will later discuss). Most scholars cite Nurbanu as mother of Gevherhan and Şah too, so I’d stay with that, though we have no names provided for those other two daughters born to Selim during his first year in Konya. It is however possible that their names got lost, especially if they didn’t survive infancy, which could be very likely the case. As for Fatma Sultan - Peirce contests Uluçay’s claim that Fatma was Nurbanu’s daughter:
The birth of Fatma to Selim II in 1559, which appears as an anomoly in the productive politics of the times as I have reconstructed them, may make some sense from this perspective. Nurbanu’s son Murad left for the provinces in 1558; if her sexual role ceased at that point, Fatma may have been the result of Selim’s new relationship with another concubine. This was probably an unintended birth, since no other children appear to have been born between 1546 (the year of Murad’s birth) and Selim’s accession in 1566. The attempt to induce Murad III to give up his monogamous relationship with Safiye seems to have intensified around the time Safiye’s son Mehmed took up his post (1582).
Some quotes from ambassadors about Nurbanu and Selim’s relationship:
Venetian ambassafor Jacopo Soranzo in 1566:
“the Chassechi [haseki]…. is said to be extremely well loved and honored by His Majesty both for her great beauty and for being unusually intelligent.”
Venetian ambassafor Andrea Badoaro in 1573 (so a year before Selim’s death)
“she is called the cassachi and is much loved by his majesty.”
Venetian ambassafor Marino Cavalli in relation to Venetian Senate 1568 (he was an ambassador in Istanbul from 1557 to 1559):
“Among many women possessed by this Signor, there is one who is truly and properly his wife, like La Rossa was to Solimano, his father… For what is being circulated, she is a Corfiote subject of your Seignory, a Noble Venetian, as some would emphasize. She is a wise woman and has a single son with the Signor, called Sultan Murath, who is currently  twenty-one years of age”.
Jacopo Ragazzoni mentioned that Selim married her, bestowing a dowry of 100,00 ducats.
She received much higher stipend than mothers of other Selim’s sons - 1,000 aspers a day, while all the others only 40 aspers a day (bear in mind that her son was also clearly singled out as heir to the throne). Nurbanu was also the first concubine to be buried in the tomb of the sultan that used to be her master.
- Joanna
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Muhteşem Yüzyıl (Magnificent Century) fancast: Daughters of Hürrem Haseki Sultan. Second generation.
1. Hümaşah Sultan (1540-1593) - daughter of Şehzade Mehmed of the Ottoman Empire.Like her cousin Ayşe Hümaşah Sultan, she was reportedly beloved by their grandfather, to whom she wrote letters.She is regarded amongst the most influential women of Suleiman's reign.This affection can be explained, in large measure, by the fact that her late father, Mehmed, was Suleiman's favorite son. It was she who, in 1563, gifted her cousin Şehzade Murad (future Sultan Murad III) with a concubine that would go on to be Safiye Sultan.
2. Ayşe Hümaşah Sultan (1541–1594) -  daughter of Mihrimah Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and Rüstem Pasha. She was her parents' first child and only daughter, and possibly her grandparents' first grandchild as well. She had several brothers, whose number and names are though contested.
3. Ismihan Sultan (1544 – 1585) -  daughter of Selim II and Nurbanu Sultan. She was the most powerful daughter of Selim II because she was married to the Grand Vizier Sokollu Mehmed Pasha. She is famous for having built the Sokollu Mehmed Pasha Mosque and Esmahan Sultan Mosque.
4. Gevherhan Sultan (1544 - after 1604) -  daughter of Sultan Selim II and Nurbanu Sultan. Soon after his succession, Mehmed's son by Handan Sultan, Ahmed I wanted to express his gratitude to Mehmed Pasha and Gevherhan Sultan for the role they had played in bringing his parents together. He also named one of his daughters after her.
5. Şah Sultan (1545 – 1580) -  daughter of Selim II and Nurbanu Sultan. The union of Şah Sultan to Zal Mahmud is said to be a very happy one. They were suited to each another. It was said that, that they fell ill at the same time, lay in their deathbeds together, and expired at the same very moment. 
6. Fatma Sultan (1559–1580) -  daughter of Sultan Selim II. Fatma was born in 1559,during Selim's princedom, at Konya or Karaman where he served as sanjakbey, or provincial governor, at the time.
7. Mihrimah Sultan (1547 – 1594) - daughter of Şehzade Bayezid. Married in 1562 to Damat Müzaffer Pasha.
8. Hatice Sultan and Hanzade Sultan (1550/1556-?) -  daughters of Şehzade Bayezid.
9. Ayşe Sultan (1553- 1572) -  daughter of Şehzade Bayezid. Married in 1562 to Damat Hoca Ali Pasha Eretnaoğlu.
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haticesultanas · 7 years
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What are your favorite quotes from mc and mck?
oh this is so difficult, there are so many episodes and having to read translations makes it kinda hard to remember actual quotes
here and here i’ve listed my favourite scenes, if you’re curious :D
magnificent century: 
hurrem: do not mistake me for someone else, my name is hurrem. i am faithful and loyal to the sultan, and as long as he breathes, the sole owner of the throne is sultan suleyman khan. even if it were one of my sons trying to take the throne, they couldn’t do so without walking over my dead body.
hurrem: i am fighting to stay alive, my sultana. since i’ve come here this is the only thing i have been doing. if i bent my head only for a moment, i would find myself at the bottom of the bosphorus.
hurrem: i too have memories and none of them are as lovely as yours. i was 17 years old when they killed my father, my mother and my sister. i was taken from my family and my home and sold as a slave. you have lived in the avratpazari neighbourhood for so many years, i am sure you have seen a lot of women crying. i was like them; i didn’t know where i would wake up the next day. but they brought me to the palace, and that morning i woke up to the sound of a snow-white pigeon. it was hurt, all alone, just like me. i took it in my hands and kissed it, and i prayed. i prayed that, just like the pigeon, i would fly away and go back home. but i didn’t realise allah had accepted my prayers, because he made the palace my home. i was lucky, because allah blessed me with our sultan’s love and he made me a sultana.
hurrem: i want you to know that everything i do is for your future and your brothers’.
mahidevran, about mihrimah: her tongue is as sharp as her mother’s
mahidevran, about selim: he is like his mother
hurrem: what is a harem? i will rule the world
selim: i’m not addicted to wine, i’m addicted to you
nurbanu: this palace, the rooms of the valide sultan... everything will be mine. the world will change and my time will come.
magnificent century: kosem:
safiye, about nurbanu: i was the head haseki, she did everything to make life miserable for me. then the ring passed to me. the eras changed.
safiye: “A woman fits in many titles and roles in her lifetime. She is someone else at each stage of her lifetime. She is a child. A woman. A mother. If she’s a smart and blessed subject of God she could even become a Sultana. What matters is which title and role you see fit for yourself.”
kosem: i took over this sultanate from your late father. i've died and burned so many times to protect you and your brothers. without me neither the dynasty nor the state would exist now! Now you come here and tell me about the future of the state! What you call "the state" is me... me!
gevherhan to atike: i was never happy, i hope you will be 
gevherhan: i’m not strong like you, mother // kosem: you will be, you are my daughter
handan: what do i need the state for if my son dies? what do i need this world for?
handan: I am a sultana; forever in a cage. I am a prisoner. 
handan: if ahmed dies, then the whole world can burn for all i care
anastasia: i was a sehzade’s dream
dervish to ahmed: you are the day, we are the night. you are water and we are the barren soil. you are a lion, we are lambs. what i mean to say, your majesty, is now it’s the time to shine like the sun, to cascade like a river, and to roar like a lion
safiye to ahmed: this is your dawn. this breaking day is your day. from now on, the blessed throne of the supreme ottoman dynasty is yours.
i’m sure i forgot a lot but at the moment i can’t remember more, sorry!!
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Also she said in terms of rank, the Dynasty Sultanas are placed above the Valides and the Hasekies (Something I agree with) Because after all the dynasty sultanas were free women who were not part of the institution of the harem and had imperial blood, but the Valides and the hasekies were slaves.
I can't see a dynasty sultana like Mihrimah bowing to Valide Nurbanu or Dynasty Geverhan Sultan Bowing to Handan.
For me the hierarchy is:
-Older Sultanas (ex: Mihrimah, Gerverhan, Atike..) -Valid Sultanas (eg: Nurbanu, Hadan, Turhan) -Younger Sultanas (ex: Ayse Humashah, Sah Huban, Esmehan)
-Haseki Sultan
-Bas Hatun
-Hatun
I placed the young sultanas under of the Valide Sultans because we are in a Muslim society so elders are very respected. In the case of Humaşah Sultan (Daughter of shezade Mehmed) and Valide Nurbanu Sultan, I think that Humaşah out of respect bowed to Nurbanu since she was her senior and the Valide Sultan.
Both age and title played an important factor to who should bow to who.
No, I'm sorry but I disagree with you two.
The Valide Sultan was the custodian of the dynasty, she was the "elder" not because of her age but because she was a) the mother of the sultan and b) a woman in her post-sexual role.
Now, sexuality was very important in the Ottoman Empire: a woman who didn't have sexual intercourse anymore was considered mature (not in terms of age).
It doesn't matter how old the Valide Sultan was, she was the most mature member of the dynasty (by association, because she had given birth to the sultan).
I understand your reasoning about the princesses being born free but they were still subjected to the Valide Sultan's authority. I also understand why you'd think Mihrimah would not bow to Nurbanu but I think Gevherhan and Handan are a different case altogether because Gevherhan had raised Handan in her household, maybe they had a different relationship because of this.
For example, I think Bayezid II's daughters (and therefore Selim I's sisters) bowed to Ayşe Hafsa.
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reallifesultanas · 3 years
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Portrait of Rabia Sultan / Rabia Sultan portréja
The Last Haseki
Rabia may have been born around or after 1670, but neither her origin nor her date of birth is known. We know nothing about her early life. Following his two brothers, in 1691 Ahmed II ascended the throne. The mother of the aging sultan had already died before his accession to the throne, so the first woman of the harem became Rabia, the sultan’s favorite consort. In October 1692, Rabia's first children, twin boys, were born in Edirne. It was the first surely documented twin birth in the history of the Empire. The boys were named Ibrahim and Selim. After their birth, the sultan arranged a party for four days and nights and piled up a lot of gifts for his sweetheart, and certainly gave her the rank of Haseki at that time as well.
In 1693, Prince Selim died. In October 1694, Rabia gave birth to another child, Asiye Sultan, after which Rabia received even more estate and gifts from the Sultan. Rabia was in possession of astonishing wealth, and even the true-born sultanas asked her for financial help if they were needy. It is known that Ibrahim I’s daughter, Gevherhan, who was Rabia’s sister-in-law, also repeatedly applied for a loan from the Haseki.
The radiance of Rabia did not last long, in 1695 Ahmed II died and was replaced by Mustafa II. This was tantamount to Rabia’s retreat to the Old Palace, where her daughter died in December of the same year. Her only surviving son was Prince Ibrahim, who, however, did not live with her but in the court of the new sultan.
Rabia died on January 14, 1712, in the Old Palace and was buried next to her sultan. Rabia is one of the Hasekies with the most tragic fate in the history of the Empire. As mesmerizing, uplifting, and long was the reign of the first Haseki, Hürrem, as tragic, sad, and short was the reign of the last Haseki, Rabia.
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Used sources: M. Ç. Uluçay - Padişahların Kadınları ve Kızları; N. Sakaoğlu - Bu Mülkün Kadın Sultanları
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Az utolsó Haseki
Rabia 1670 körül születhetett, ám sem származása sem születési ideje nem ismert. Korai életéről nem tudunk semmit. II. Ahmed két bátyját követve, 1691-ben lépett trónra. Az idősödő szultán édesanyja már trónralépése előtt meghalt, így a hárem első asszonya Rabia, a szultán kedvence lett. 1692 októberében Edirnében születtek meg Rabia első gyermekei, egy fiú ikerpár. Ez volt az első biztosan dokumentált ikerszülés a birodalom történetében. A fiúk az Ibrahim és Szelim nevet kapták. A szülés után a szultán négy napon és éjjelen át tartó partit rendezett és rengeteg ajándékkal halmozta el kedvesét és minden bizonnyal a Haseki rangot is ekkor adományozta neki.
1693-ban Szelim herceg sajnálatos módon elhalálozott. 1694 októberében Rabia újabb gyermeknek adott életet, Asiye szultánának, mely esemény után Rabia még több birtokot és ajándékot kapott a szultántól. Rabia elképesztő vagyon felett rendelkezett, még a született szultánák is az ősegítségér kérték ha megszorultak. Ismeretes, hogy I. Ibrahim lánya, Gevherhan, aki Rabia sógornője volt, szintén többször kért kölcsön a Hasekitől.
Rabia ragyogása nem tartott sokáig, ugyani 1695-ben II. Ahmed elhunyt, helyére II. Musztafa lépett. Ez egyet jelentett Rabia visszavonulásával a Régi Palotába, ahol ugyanebben az évben, decemberben kislánya elhunyt. Egyetlen életben maradt fia, Ibrahim herceg volt, aki azonban nem vele élt, hanem az új szultán udvartartásában.
Rabia 1712 január 14-én hunyt el a Régi Palotába és kedvese mellé temették. Rabia az egyik legtragikusabb sorsú Haszekije a birodalom történetének. Amilyen ragyogó, felemelő és hosszú volt az első Haseki, Hürrem szultána uralkodása, olyannyira volt tragikus, szomorú és rövid az utolsó Haseki, Rabia szultána uralma és egész élete.
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Felhasznált források:  M. Ç. Uluçay - Padişahların Kadınları ve Kızları; N. Sakaoğlu - Bu Mülkün Kadın Sultanları
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Haseki Nurbanu Sultan (Muhtesem Yuzyil) by Ammelda-Aini
Haseki Afife Nurbanu Sultan (tenure: 1566 - 1574) was Haseki Sultan of the Ottoman Empire as the principal consort and later legal wife of Sultan Selim II (reign 1566–1574), and later Valide Sultan as the mother of Sultan Murad III (reign 1574–1595). In Muhteşem Yüzyıl, she was Venetian origin and her birth name was Cecilia Venier-Baffo. While her spouse Selim still a şehzade, Nurbanu had been the head of his princely harem at Manisa. However, when Selim ascended to the throne, she was not head of the imperial harem, as that was a position taken by Selim's elder sister Mihrimah Sultan. Nurbanu acted as an advisor to her husband. Although it was far from normal at the time, Selim II would often ask Nurbanu for her advice on various subjects because of his respect for her good judgment. Like his predecessor Selim let his favorite wife remain at Topkapı throughout his reign.[11] She had four children with Selim II: Sultan Murad III, Ismihan Sultan, Gevherhan Sultan, and Şah Sultan. Further information: Afife Nurbanu Sultan.
I drew Nurbanu with anime/manga style. Her design here taken from Turkish historical drama "Muhteşem Yüzyıl" (starred by Merve Boluğur):
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The next one will be featured Safiye Sultan, Nurbanu's daughter-in-law.
Previous work: Haseki Hürrem Sultan.
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Hi just wondering if you can clarify who Selimiye Sultan is? I've never heard of her but seeing the name around a lot, even though Selimiye isn't actually a name? :/
You know, I first heard about her about half year ago and was shocked, cuz I’m a real Nurbanu fan. But still I knew that Selim was quite lustful, but at the same time he prefered the principle “one concubine-one son”. Also I knew about a few sehzades, who was killed because of Murad’s throne succession, among them was Abdullah. Possibly, he was son of Selimiye (there are a few sources confirm it).
It is said that Selimiye was venetian (why not?) and died in Trabzon in 1596 (she was exiled), that means she survived her son’s death. I think that her name sounded in the other way and “Selimiye” (means “belonging to Selim”) just reflects the fact that she was his concubine. It’s really hard to talk about Selim’s favourite cuz Nurbanu was the main and her power was a great pressure for the other ones.
I saw even hilarious stories that Safiye, Mihrimah (who died before Nurbanu) and Selimiye are guilty for Nurbanu’s death.
Also I was surfing through different lists of concubines on turkish language and nowhere Selimiye was mentioned, only Nurbanu.
I also read that she was mother of Gevherhan, don’t think so. Authoritative sourceshave some questions only about Fatma (Uluçay asserts that she was the daughter of Nurbanu, but offers no proof for this statement), but not Gevherhan. She was a daughter of Nurbanu.
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Kosem Sultan By Solmaz Kamuran
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معروف ترک ادیبہ، مترجم اور کالم نگار سولمازکاموران (Kosem Sultan) استنبول میں 1954ءمیں پیدا ہوئیں۔ زیرنظر کتاب ”کوسم سلطان“ اُن کے ناول (Kosem Sultan) کا اردو ترجمہ ہے۔ اس ناول کی کہانی، تاریخ اور تخیل کے امتزاج پر مبنی ہے۔ 
عثمانی سلطان احمت 1603ءمیں اپنے والد محمت سوم کی بے وقت موت کے بعد تخت نشیں ہوا اور یہیں سے اس کہانی کا آغاز ہوتا ہے۔ ناول کا مرکزی کردار ”کوسم“ ہے جس کا تعلق یونانی جزیرے تینوس سے تھا۔ پندرہ برس کی عمر میں اغواکاروں نے اسے بوسنیا کے گورنر کے ہاتھ فروخت کیا جہاں سے وہ عثمانی شاہی حرم میں بھیج دی گئی۔ وہ عثمانی سلطان احمت کی منظورِنظر کنیز اور بعدازاں قانونی بیوی بنی۔ وہ دو عثمانی سلاطین سلطان مراد چہارم اور سلطان ابراہیم کی ماں، اور سلطان محمت چہارم کی دادی تھی۔ 
سلطان سلیمان عالیشان کے بعد سولہویں اور سترہویں صدی عیسوی میں 130سال سے زائد عرصہ عثمانی سلطنت پر شاہی حرم کی خواتین کی درپردہ حکومت رہی جو سلاطین کی منظورِنظر خواتین یا نوعمر سلاطین کی ماﺅں کی حیثیت سے ریاستی معاملات میں بے پناہ سیاسی اثرورسوخ رکھتی تھیں۔ اس کا ایک سبب برادرکشی کی روایت بھی تھی۔ سلطان محمت نے تخت نشینی کے بعد اپنے 19 بھائیوں کا سر قلم کیا تھا۔ 
کوسم سلطان، سلطنت عثمانیہ کی طاقتور ترین خاتون تھی۔ وہ دو مرتبہ نائب سلطنت رہی۔ ”خواتین کی سلطنت“ کی یہ ممتازترین شخصیت اپنے قتل کے بعد لوگوں میں ”والدہ مقتول“ اور ”شہید والدہ“ کے نام سے جانی گئی۔ سلطنت عثمانیہ کے پایہ¿ تخت استنبول کی گلیوں میں کئی روز تک اس کے بے رحمانہ قتل کا ماتم کیا جاتا رہا۔ 
Famous Turks, translators and columnists, Kosem Sultan, were born in Istanbul in 1954. The book "Undermine Sultan" is a translation of Urdu's translation of Kosem Sultan. The story of this novel is based on the combination of history and imagination. Ottoman Sultan Ahmat was throne after the death of his father Mohmat Som in 1603, and this story starts from here. The novel's role is "Kosmos", which belonged to the Greek island of Tunisia. At the age of fifteen, the abductors sold him to the governor of Bosnia, where he was sent to the Ottoman royal palace. They were Kansen and later legal lawmakers in view of Ottoman Sultan Ahmet. He was the grandmother of two Ottoman slants Sultan Murad IV and the mother of Sultan Ibrahim, and Sultan Mohmat IV. After Sultan Sulman Islashan, in the sixteenth and seventh centuries CE, more than 130 years of Ottoman Empire embedded in the dominant government of the royal hammers, who had a political influence in the state affairs as a mothers of women or teenagers, in view of the slavery. One reason for this was also the tradition of a brotherhood. Sultan Talmat had headed his 19 brothers after the throne. Kausar Sultan was the powerful woman of Ottoman Empire. He was twice the Vice Empire. This prominent personality of "Women's Empire" was named after the "mother of death" and "martyrdom" in his people after his death. During the streets of Ottoman Empire, the Ottoman Empire of Ottoman, many unhealthy murders were mourned for many days.
  Nothing bad, but there is a Kosen Sultan who appears to hold the Guinness record for being the world’s tallest man, so not to be confused.)
In reality, the harem was an enclosed space for the women of the royal household, etymologically derived from the Arabic haram—forbidden—which allowed elite women to live in seclusion and yet still have access to and even exert control over the seat of power. In the Ottoman Empire, the women of the harem could be very influential, even enjoying a period in the 16th and 17th centuries known as the “Sultanate of Women” when, through regencies and political strategizing, they were practically in charge. It’s worth noting that this partly coincided with the height of the Empire’s power.
Kösem Sultan is one of the most extraordinary of these women. Born on a small Greek island around 1585, she eventually made her way to Constantinople at age fifteen, sold into the harem of the Ottoman Sultan Ahmed I, where she became a favorite of his and then became one of his wives.
Ahmed died in 1617, and in 1623 Kösem’s son Murad IV became Sultan and Kösem became Valide Sultan, or Mother of the Sultan. Because Murad was a minor, Kösem was his official regent—the first woman to ever rule the Ottoman Empire and one of only two who ever would. She was regent for nine years.
Now, as I hinted at earlier, the Ottoman Empire in this period was nothing to sneeze at. Its subjects numbered around thirty million, and its reach extended across North Africa, Eastern Europe, and most of what we now know as the Middle East. Like many empires, it could have probably quit while it was ahead circa 1550, but continued to expand and was mostly still doing A-OK until 1683, when the Ottomans whiffed at the disastrous siege of Vienna, undertaken by Grand Vizier Kara Mustafa Pasha.
                     Kosem Sultan (کوسم سلطان)              Born: Tinos, Greece                                                    Died: 2 September 1651, Constantinople   Buried: Sultan Ahmed Mosque, Istanbul, Turkey           Spouse: Life Patterns                ↓
Ahmed I was the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire from 1603 until his death in 1617. Ahmed's reign is noteworthy for marking the end of the Ottoman tradition of royal fratricide; henceforth Ottoman
Son Of  Kosem Sultan (کوسم سلطان)
1. Murad IV
Murad IV was the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire from 1623 to 1640, known both for restoring the authority of the state and for the brutality of his methods. Murad IV was born in Istanbul, the son of Sultan Ahmed I and the ethnic Greek Kösem Sultan
مراد IV سلطنت سلطنت عثمان سلطنت 1623 سے 1640 تک تھا، دونوں ریاستوں کو ریاستی اور ان کے طریقوں کے ظلم و امان کے بحال کرنے کے لئے جانا جاتا تھا. مراد IV میں استنبول، سلطان احمد I اور نسلی یونانی کوسم سلطان کے بیٹے پیدا ہوئے
2. Ibrahim
Ibrahim was the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire from 1640 until 1648. He was born in Constantinople the son of Ahmed I by Valide Kösem Sultan, an ethnic Greek originally named Anastasia
ابراہیم عثمان سلطنت کی سلطان 1640 سے 1648 تک تھی. وہ پیدا ہوئے تھے، احمد احمد کا بیٹا کنڈننولوال میں ویلڈ کوسم سلطان، ایک اصل یونانی اصل میں اناساساسیا کے نام سے
3. Şehzade Kasım
Born: 1614, Istanbul, Turkey
Died: 17 February 1638, Istanbul, Turkey
4.Şehzade Suleiman
Born: 1613, Istanbul, Turkey
Died: 27 July 1635, Topkapı Palace, Istanbul, Turkey
5. Şehzade Mehmed
Born: 8 March 1605, Topkapı Palace, Istanbul, Turkey
Died: 12 January 1621, Istanbul, Turkey
6. Şehzade Orhan
Born: 1609, Istanbul, Turkey
Died: 1612, Istanbul, Turkey
7. Şehzade Sultan Selim
Murad IV's brother
Born: 27 June 1611, Istanbul, Turkey
Died: 27 July 1611, Istanbul, Turkey
8. Gevherhan Sultan
Gevherhan Sultan was an Ottoman princess, daughter of Sultan Ahmed I and Kösem Sultan, half-sister of Sultan Osman II, and sister of Sultans Murad IV and Ibrahim of the Ottoman Empire. Wikipedia
Born: 1608, Istanbul, Turkey
Died: 1660, Istanbul, Turkey
9. Burnaz Atike Sultan
Burnaz Atike Sultan was an Ottoman princess, daughter of Sultan Ahmed I, half-sister of Sultan Osman II, and sister of Sultans Murad IV and Ibrahim of the Ottoman Empire.was an Ottoman princess. Wikipedia
Born: 1614, Istanbul Province, Turkey
Died: 1674, Istanbul Province, Turkey
10.Hanzade Sultan
Kösem Sultan's daughter
Hanzade Sultan was an Ottoman princess. She was the daughter of Sultan Ahmed I and Kösem Sultan. She was a sister of Osman II, Murad IV and Ibrahim, and the paternal aunt of Mehmed IV. Wikipedia
Born: September 1607, Istanbul, Turkey
Died: 21 September 1650, Istanbul, Turk
11. Ayşe Sultan
Daughter of Ahmed I
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Ayşe Sultan was an Ottoman princess, daughter of Sultan Ahmed I and Kösem Sultan, half-sister of Sultan Osman II and sister of Sultan Murad IV and Sultan Ibrahim of the Ottoman Empire. Ayşe is known for her many politically motivated marriages. Wikipedia
Born: 1605, Constantinople
Died: May 1657, Istanbul, Turkey
12.  Fatma Sultan 
was an Ottoman princess. She was the daughter of Sultan Ahmed I and Kösem Sultan, sister of Murad IV and Ibrahim, and the paternal aunt of Mehmed IV. She is known for her many political marriages. Wikipedia
Born: 1606, Istanbul, Turkey
Died: 1670, Istanbul, Turkey
13. Cemre Sultan
Kösem Sultan's daughter
Born: 1616, Istanbul, Turkey
Parents: Kösem Sultan
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What kind of lives and careers would the nephews of Sultans live out? By that I mean the sons of princesses. Who would they usually marry? While their children weren’t considered official royal family members, could they expect any special esteem among the Ottoman aristocracy? There were so many of them lol.
Sultanzades usually pursued either a military career (several of Suleyman I's nephew and uncles were army generals) or a career in the provinces as governors.
We don't have much information about the wives of sultanzades. There are exceptions, of course:
Ayşe Hümâ-Şâh's grandson Mahmud Paşa — who is not technically a sultanzade but just a descendant — married a daughter of Mehmed III, therefore becoming a damad
Sultân-zâde Dâmâd Mehmed Çelebî (son Fatma Sultan, daughter of Bayezid II) married his cousin, Ayşe Sultan (daughter of Şehzâde Alem-şâh)
Sultân-zâde Mehmed Paşa (son of Gevher-mülük sultan, daughter of Bayezid II) married his cousin, Ayşe Hân-zâde Mihr-i Hân Hanım-Sultân (daughter of Ayşe Sultan, daughter of Bayezid II)
Sultân-zâde Yahyâpaşa-zâde Gaazî Küçük Balı Paşa (yes, MC!Bali Bey) (son of Şâh-zâde sultân, daughter of Bayezid II) married his cousin Hân-zâde Hanım-Sultân (daughter of Aynişâh sultân, daughter of Bayezid II)— not only that, but Aynişâh sultân herself was married to a Sultanzade, Göde Ahmed Bey, the son of Mehmed II's daughter Gevherhan
Sultân-zâde Mehmed Bey (son of a daughter of Bayezid II's) married one of Selim I's daughters, Gevherhan Sultan
Hümâ-Şâh Sultân's son Sultân-zâde Sokollu-zâde ‘Abdülbâkî Bey married Safiyye Hanım-Sultân, the daughter of Ismihan Sultan and Sokollu Mehmed Paşa
Sultanzades could also have married daughters of pashas, though if they didn't contract a dynastic marriage we don't have a record of their wives. Sultân-zâde İbrâhîm Hân /Paşa (another son of Ismihan Sultan) had descendants until the XX century and one of his descendants married a daughter of Mehmed V's but that's the only wife we know about for four centuries.
By the way, yes, sultanzades' offspring weren't titled but were considered part of the élite anyway and a marriage with them was advantageous.
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Can you explain the political marriages between the Ottoman dynasty and the giray dynasty? Some sources claim that Salim's daughter is married to Saadat giray. Can you give me more information about Salim I Harem?
By some sources, I guess you mean Alderson, as he is the only one I could find that says this: un unnamed daughter of Selim I's married Mengili Giray's son and successor, Saadat Giray Han, and had a son with him called Ahmed.
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Sakaoğlu doesn't seem to believe this because he could not find any information about this princess, not even when she died or where she was buried.
I have already described Selim I's harem but it's been such a long time and in the meantime I have done some more digging so I am going to talk about it once more.
The harem of Selim I
Consorts
Alderson wrote that he [Selim I] had four wives, three of whom were named Ayşe, Hafsa, and Taçlı Hatun. He claimed that the last one’s name was unknown. Even if he wrote that Ayşe was the daughter of the Crimean Khan, that she was married to Mehmed, Bayezid II’s son, and that Selim married her upon Mehmed’s death at a young age, it is not true. Because we know that during the reigns of Bayezid II and Selim I, Mehmed’s mother and wife were paid and stayed in the Old Palace. According to Hafsa Sultan’s endowment, the woman’s name was Ayşe. Therefore, it is highly likely that Ayşe and Hafsa were the same person. Taçlı Hatun was married at the end of the Çaldıran War to Tacizade Cafer Çelebi. Lütfi Pasha, who participated in this war, described it most clearly in his history. However, even if it is understood from the letters Hafsa Sultan wrote to Yavuz Sultan Selim that Yavuz had other wives other than her, their names cannot be determined. — M. Çağatay Uluçay, Padişahların Kadınları ve Kızları
Ayşe Hafsa Hâtûn (later Vâlide-Sultân): concubine of slave origins, her origins are obscure:
It took the Ottoman populace a long while to discard the assumption that the mothers of princes and princesses were all royally born. This reluctance, present even today, helps to explain why legend has long claimed Suleyman’s mother Hafsa to be a Giray Tatar princess. Hafsa may well have hailed from the northern Black Sea region or even been a gift of the Tatar khan to the Ottoman court, but she was in fact a captive convert of modest origins, like virtually every woman in the imperial harem at the time when she entered it, probably the early 1490s. The tenacious story of Hafsa’s royal Tatar pedigree probably has something at least to do with a different sort of association she enjoyed with the Crimean Khanate. Hafsa accompanied Suleyman on his first political assignment as prince when in 1509 he was appointed, at the age of fifteen, to serve as governor of Caffa. The city was capital of a ribbon of territory running along the southeastern shores of the Crimean peninsula that constituted a province under direct Ottoman rule. In Caffa, Suleyman and his mother doubtless had contact with the Tatar authorities, perhaps with the khan himself. — Peirce, Empress of the East: How a European Slave Girl Became Queen of the Ottoman Empire
She is sometimes called also Hafisa or Hafiza. She was the mother of Süleymân I, Hatice Sultan, Fatma Sultan and possibly Beyhan or Hafsa Sultan. Ayşe Hafsa was the first concubine to receive the title of sultan, therefore making her the first valide sultan. She was also the first woman to build an imperial mosque complex, the Sultaniye in Manisa.
Children
The same mystery that surrounds Selim I's consorts also surrounds his sons. According to tradition, he supposedly killed them all except for Süleymân after he had designated him as heir. Another theory holds that all his other sons simply died in childhood and that Süleymân was the only prince to survive into adulthood.
Süleymân I (27.4.1494/1495 - 7.9.1566): 10th sultan of the Ottoman Empire
Şehzade Orhan (1500?-1510?)
Şehzade Musa and Şehzade Korkut: died little
Alderson instead calls Selim I’s other sons: Abdullah, Murad and Mahmud
His daughters are also a matter of discussion among historians: from their number to their actual names, nothing is set in stone so far.
Gevherhan Sultan (1494?-?): figures only in Öztuna. She married İsfendiyâroğlu Dâmâd Sultân-zâde Mehmed Bey, the son of her aunt Fatma (daughter of Bayezid II)
Hatice Sultan (before 27.4.1494-1582?): Öztuna believes that her second name was Hanım. As Ayşe Hafsa's daughter, she must have been older than Süleymân. Her marriages and children are a matter of speculation:
according to Dumas and Turan, she married Bostancıbaşı İskender Paşa in 1508; widowed in 1515, she married Çoban Mustafa Paşa in 1517. Mustafa Paşa was, for the occasion, elevated to the rank of vizier
That she married İbrâhîm Paşa is a tradition that has long since been dispelled.
With her first husband, she had Sultân-zâde Mehmed-Şâh Bey, Sultân-zâde Süleymân Bey, Sultân-zâde ‘Alî Bey, Nefîse Hanım-Sultân and Sultân-zâde Kara ‘Osman-Şâh Bey/Paşa (1510?-1567/68), though ‘Osman-Şâh is sometimes ascribed to her sister Hafsa. It is not certain if Sultân-zâde Mehmed-Şâh Bey (1525?-?), and X Hanım-Sultân were her children from her second marriage as Mehmed-Şâh was also the name of İbrâhîm Paşa's son with his wife Muhsine Hatun. Hânım Hanım-Sultân is buried in Hürrem Sultan's tomb and called Hatice Sultan's daughter on her plaque. We don't know when she was born but she lived long enough to be married to a Abdü'l-Kerîm Bey.
Fatma Sultan (before 27.4.1494-1556): daughter of Ayşe Hafsa, she had three husbands during her life: Mustafa Paşa, governor of Antalya, but the marriage was dissolved because he was homosexual. Her second husband was Grand Vizier Kara Ahmed Paşa, possibly married in 1532, who was executed on 28 September 1555. Her third and final husband was Hâdim İbrâhîm Paşa, a eunuch, and possibly a love match. She was buried in the mausoleum of her second husband, Ahmed Paşa. All her marriages were childless.
Beyhan Sultan (?-before 1559): if she was Ayşe Hafsa's daughter, she must have been born before 1494. She married Ferhâd Paşa, former chief of the Janissaries and afterwards governor of Rumelia, of Damascus and ultimately second vizier. He was executed by her brother Süleymân I in 1524. She seems to have re-married after 1524, to a Mehmed Paşa with which she had İsmihân Hanım-Sultân. According to Dumas, İsmihân was Ferhâd Paşa's daughter and Beyhan never remarried. Beyhan is also called Peykhan in some harem documents.
Hafsa (or Hafisa) Sultan (1500?-1538?): she was born in Trabzon. According to Uluçay, Ayşe Hafsa was her mother (though this would make her date of birth earlier than 1494). Her first husband was Grand Vizier Dukaginzade Ahmed Paşa, whom Selim I executed in 1515, according to Sakaoğlu. According to Uluçay, she married İskender Paşa, former bostâncıbaşı; Öztuna, on the other hand, claims she had married an unnamed Ağa, and Selim I's bostâncıbaşı. Her second husband is a matter of discussion as well:
Öztuna claims she married Gaazî Çoban Mustafa Paşa (but it seems that he was married to Hatice)
According to Alderson, Dumas and Sakaoğlu, she instead married Boşnak Mustafa Paşa
According to Alderson and Sakaoglu, she had only one son: Sultân-zâde Kara ‘Osman-Şâh Bey/Paşa. Hafsa Sultan died on 10 July 1538 and was buried in the Sultan Selim Mosque.
Şah, Şah-i Huban or Devlet-Şah Sultan (??-1572): daughter of an unknown concubine who resided in the Old Palace as late as 1556, therefore giving credit to Uluçay's theory that Selim I had more consorts other than Ayşe Hafsa but that we lost their names. She married Lutfî Paşa around 1523 and had İsmihân Hanım-Sultân with him. She was a very pious person:
Suleyman’s sister Shah Sultan would prove a prolific patron, although of relatively modest projects (over the course of her long lifetime, she endowed three mosques, three dervish lodges, and other smaller structures in three different Istanbul neighborhoods) — Peirce, Empress of the East: How a European Slave Girl Became Queen of the Ottoman Empire
Her brother Süleymân I granted her a divorce after Lutfî Paşa had tried to hit her:
Shah was wed to the Albanian Lutfi Pasha, grand vizier from 1539 until his dismissal and forced retirement in 1541. The rupture was precipitated by an argument between the couple over Lutfi’s harsh punishment of a prostitute, possibly possibly circumcision or the branding of her genitals. In the heat of dispute, the vizier committed an unpardonable act—he struck his princess wife, grounds for their divorce and his banishment. A notable patron of dervishes, Shah continued to observe her sufi piety through further endowments. — Peirce, Empress of the East: How a European Slave Girl Became Queen of the Ottoman Empire
After her divorce, she did not remarry and instead retired in the Old Palace.
Şehzade or Sultanzade Sultan (??-??): her existence is proven by harem records of the Old Palace, where she figures with her daughter, Ayşe. According to Uluçay, she was married to Çoban Mustafa Paşa but that seems impossible, as Çoban Mustafa Paşa seems to have been Hatice Sultan's second husband. He also says that he died in 1527-28 but he actually died in 1529. Uluçay also called her Hanım.
According to Öztuna, a granddaughter of Selim I firstly married Grand Vizier Koca Sinân Paşa and then married in 1596 Dâmâd Güzelce Mahmûd Paşa, but the marriage lasted less than a year because she died in June 1597. Dâmâd Güzelce Mahmûd Paşa would later become Murad III’s daughter Ayşe’s third husband. Another granddaughter married Pertev Paşa and had a son with him called Ahmed who died before his father. I could not verify these claims but maybe one of these granddaughters was Şehzade's daughter.
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