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procrastiel · 5 months
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Yo, another kiss in s3 would be great, but have you considered Aziraphale and Crowley laughing while kissing
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febelinlove · 1 month
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We can talk about this, because I think I'll die if I don't get an answer to what this even is...
Neil GOS2: I kept describing it to ppl as gentle and romantic. And they're all like, how could you say that, you evil person?And I'm like, I thought it was gentle and romantic. I mean, for me, it was gentle and romantic. I can promise you S3 is not gentle or romantic.
I will flood everything around with tears
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ineffablehubbys · 4 months
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Okay but imagine this is how good omens s3 ends:
Ext, Southdown cottage, Aziraphale and Crowley sat together on a bench beneath and apple tree, drinking wine, Crowleys arm over Aziraphales shoulders.
Crowley: angel…
Aziraphale: yes my dear
Crowley: you hear that?
Aziraphale gives Crowley a happy, knowing look (you know the one) and rests his head on Crowleys shoulder.
Camera slowly pans up into the apple tree where a nightingale is singing. Fades into ‘a nightingale sang in Berkeley square’ as camera pans out to show the Southdown cottage/ garden and the credits start playing.
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Good Omens and The Crow Road
I read the novel The Crow Road by Iain Banks—the book Muriel is reading at the end of season two episode six and the book that hints at the events of season three.
My thoughts are under the cut. You can also read it on AO3 here. Obviously it includes spoilers for The Crow Road.
The Crow Road
The protagonist of The Crow Road is Prentice McHoan. He is a young man (early twenties) and, personally, I found him to be a bit of a dick though he does mature over the course of the book.
The book meanders and leaps about in time, telling the story in a non-linear way and with switches in point of view. This means that the relevance of events is often not clear as you read them, only becoming clear later on.
The title The Crow Road is a metaphor for death as the novel introduces early on that “he’s away the Crow Road” is a way of speaking of someone being dead.
There are three key story arcs:
(1) No one has spoken to or seen Prentice’s Uncle Rory for years. Rory is Prentice’s globetrotting Uncle who became famous because he wrote a bestselling travel diary as a young man. Rory’s ambition is to write a serious novel he called “The Crow Road”. No one knows where Rory is but Prentice’s father believes that he is still alive because he regularly receives match book covers from different locations all around the world. He believes that Rory is the one sending the match book covers because Rory once confessed to him that as a child he lit a fire that accidentally burned down a barn. Prentice becomes increasingly obsessed with what happened to Rory.
(2) Prentice is estranged from his father and he struggles with this. The estrangement is over belief in God. Prentice’s father is a communist and an atheist. When a friend of Prentice’s dies tragically, Prentice decides that there must be an afterlife and hence a God. The estrangement begins and he moves in with a religious Uncle.
(3) Prentice has an intense and unreciprocated infatuation with a young woman called Verity and does not handle it well when Verity becomes an item with his own brother Lewis. Seriously ridiculous childish drama here. Prentice complains about this all many times and at length to Ash, another young woman who is a more patient friend than Prentice deserves.
Here’s how each story arc lands (obviously this is the big spoiler bit for The Crow Road):
(1) Prentice eventually works out through reading a rough draft of Uncle Rory’s novel that Rory was murdered by another of Prentice’s Uncles for realising that that Uncle had previously murdered his own wife (and Prentice’s Aunt) in a car crash by undoing her seatbelt. The match book covers were being sent to Prentice’s father by a friend of the murderous Uncle to convince him that Rory was still alive. Rory’s body is found in a lake. It is all quite proven as far as Prentice is concerned but the murderous Uncle dies and hence there is no sense of justice, just a mystery solved.
(2) Prentice’s father dies while climbing a church spire by being struck by lightning and falling. At the point of his death Prentice and his father are still estranged. In the end, after solving the mystery of Uncle Rory, Prentice decides that there is no afterlife and no God. Prentice hopes that his father died knowing that he wouldn’t be a fool forever.
(3) Prentice’s brother Lewis marries and has a child with Verity. Prentice finds peace with this and realises that he actually loves Ash, the patient friend who has been listening to his nonsense for years.
Prentice and Ash sleep together and confess their love—I kid you not—in Morse code during sex with a series of squeezes and pushes. Yeah. Sometimes I think we come up with weird stuff in fanfiction and then I read a published novel and… but I digress. Point is, they are in love and they both know it. Prentice is finally growing up. But Ash planned to spend time in Canada and she goes anyway (good for her) saying that if Prentice does love her then they can still be together and simply continue when she returns. That’s where it ends which might sound sad but it actually feels mature and real after Prentice’s carry on with Verity. There’s a general feeling that Prentice has finally grown enough himself to make a relationship work and they are both starting that relationship right.
Implications for Good Omens seasons three:
(1) Good Omens has also been jumping about in time. The story is not being told in a linear manner. I suspect that there are scenes we’ve already seen where the meaning of those events won’t be clear until sometime in season three. I suspect that there are missing pieces to the overall story arc that will also be shown in season three. In short, we don’t have all the information and we don’t know what we truly have.
(2) Season three will involve working out, possibly using a diary or a book of some kind, what has happened to somebody. From simply hearing about the plot of The Crow Road I thought it would be Muriel working out what’s happened to Aziraphale by reading his diaries. Perhaps season three will open with a very different Aziraphale to the one we are used to and Muriel will work out what is really going on (memory wipe, manipulation, Aziraphale lying to enact a plan). This might still be true but after reading The Crow Road I was left with a different idea.
After reading The Crow Road the obvious parallel to Uncle Rory is not Aziraphale but God. God narrates season one but season two is strangely lacking in God’s narration. As Crowley says she’s “not talking to any of us”. Just like Uncle Rory. Yet everyone assumes that Heaven’s orders ultimately come from her. What if they aren’t coming from her? What if they are being sent by the person who murdered her? I think a big focus of season three will be what exactly is happening with God. It won’t necessarily be that she’s dead like Uncle Rory. Not everything is going to line up perfectly with The Crow Road. But finding out where she is and why she isn’t talking to anyone, just what this ineffable game is, will be important.
(3) It is worth noting that in The Crow Road Prentice’s father is sent match book covers to convince him that his brother, Rory, is still alive and in Good Omens we have Gabriel putting Beelezebub’s fly into a Resurrectionist match box. Does this mean anything beyond simply making a connection between Good Omens and The Crow Road? I don’t know. I can’t see any extra meaning to this yet.
(4) Aziraphale, like Prentice, won’t be a fool forever. We can depend on that. He is currently fooling himself because the truth (that Heaven is corrupt all the way down or rather up I suppose) is too painful to contemplate. But this won’t last. Aziraphale and Crowley are currently at odds, but they won’t remain so. Aziraphale’s viewpoint will shift and align more with Crowley’s.
Unlike Prentice’s father, Crowley has already fallen and will be ready when Aziraphale comes to his senses. Their estrangement will have a full resolution.
(5) Aziraphale will move on from his immature infatuation with Heaven to focus on his mature love relationship with Crowley.
Crowley will clearly state his love during passionate sex in Morse code by rhythmically contracting his effortfully formed vaginal muscles around Aziraphale’s hard cock. Wait. What? Crowley, if you are reading this please don’t do that. I know you struggle to put your love into words but that’s not the answer. But seriously, the physical expression of their love will be important. It will be important to Aziraphale. This is consistent with fanon conjecture that physical touch is Aziraphale’s love language and that physical (ie human) expressions of love are what is unique to Aziraphale and Crowley.
(6) This quote slapped me on the face: “Places have an effect on people. They alter your thoughts.” It is very like the Good Omens quote, “form shapes nature”. Aziraphale has been on Earth a long time. I wonder how he will be affected by being back in Heaven? Even if he has returned with a plan, Heaven might start seeping back in. Our angel has never been more vulnerable.
(7) This quote slapped me in the face too: “Faith itself is idolatry”. I wonder what Aziraphale would say about that? Is his faith in Heaven a form of idolatry? Aziraphale needs to shift in his stance regarding Heaven but I wonder where he will ultimately land on God. Will his faith in God be preserved or must that die too? Much depends on what exactly has happened to God and just what kind of ineffable game she is playing. So I suppose we will have to wait and see.
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cassandralie · 8 months
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God's Test isn't just for the Humans
It's for the angels and demons, too.
Maybe this was already obvious. Maybe I'm the last one to this party. But I want to talk about it anyway. So, let's go!
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A test to see if they can put aside their differences -- or at least enjoy their differences and eternal conflict -- enough not to destroy the world and go to war again.
A test to see if they can find something more important than choosing sides. (Choosing love instead war.)
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...or at least to keep those two sides, and everything else, running so the humans can make choices.
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Aziraphale has figured this out. And so has Crowley.
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If everything works properly, then the world won't be destroyed because the angels, and the demons, and the humans will save it. Just like they did at Tadfield Airbase.
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Just like they will do again, when the Second Coming--the Really Big One--happens.
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Compared to angels and demons, humans are powerless. All of Heaven and Hell versus all the Humans of Earth, isn't a fair fight, is it?
Even so, if the humans love their earth enough, they will fight to save it, even against impossible odds. (Choosing war because of love.)
And if they do, they will win. Because loving the world enough to try to save it is passing the test.
Because the test is really a test of love.
Neil Gaiman even said so himself.
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And he is not only Word of God as the writer, but has cast himself in the role of God when he said "come back when you can make me a whale"
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which is what God--or at least the Voice of God*--says to Job when he wants answers.
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*Neil also said God doesn't talk to anyone in Seasons 1&2, which would include Job. So it might have been Metatron doing a convincing Frances McDormand impression.
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But Neil was just having fun with the whale bit. Because he's already given us the answer. Several times.
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(I love the fractal answer here lol)
Anyway, that was my delulu for today! Hope you liked loved it :)
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goodomens-girlie · 4 months
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the good omens fandom rn: “oh no Crowley and Aziraphale aren’t talking in season 3”
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we all watched the same finale right?
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cybiii · 4 months
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My WIP of our dear archangel Aziraphale ✨
Inspired by the sing phoenix, this is supposed to depict the moment he betrays heaven and fight back !
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cat-clawz · 9 months
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I just know Anthony "not even at gunpoint" Crowley is going to end up taking care of Azraphale's bookshop at some point in season 3. Muriel is a wonderful cinnamon roll... but they would 100% sell books, because that's what you're "supposed" to do when you run a bookshop.
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thatlonelycactus · 4 months
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I try not to think about GO s3 too often (and usually fail) simply because I know I’ll get hyped up about it and impatient. But just- hear me out what if
WHAT IF
WHATT IFFF
Instead of seeing Crowley being a goopy puddle of sadness in the bookshop floor, drunk and alone- we see a Crowley who doesn’t care? A Crowley who’s lost everything and all he can do is try not to care anymore? Because, let’s face it, Crowley has ALWAYS cared from the very first breath the universe took. But now, the only other being he knew loved the world the same way he did has (from his pov) joined the side that wants to destroy it. The last time Crowley and Aziraphale were separated, the former was as mess, okay, I get that we have this as proof BUT, stick with me here: Crowley thought at this point in time, Aziraphale was dead, or had been taken forcefully by Heaven. However, this time it was Aziraphale’s choice (sure lie theory and coffee theory and all those argue against this but I refuse to believe any of them for a very very long list of reasons). Because, through Crowley’s eyes, Aziraphale chose the side that couldn’t care less about the universe, a side that could never care less about him, or either of them for that matter. So, why then, should he care about Aziraphale? Why then, should he care about anything at all? Because there’s no use trying to save it if he’s the only one left who sees its value, its beauty. But also it may be an act whether it is to minimize his own pain or to reflect hurt upon Aziraphale or a combination of both. But it will hurt Aziraphale, of course it will. It will because he fell in love with Crowley because he cared- he always cared. He cared for the stars, for Job and his children, for Elspeth, for him. Crowley was the first to care for him- the only one to continuously care for him- and cared for him until the moment he went to Heaven. But now- now he doesn’t care anymore. And it’ll pain him to see (and it will probably pain me too). But idk lol as always, we must wait and see.
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the-almighty-god · 5 months
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There you go 3 whale for 3 questions
1. Have you ever actually talk to Adam. I feel he could make you a whale. He seem like he has many questions that he would like to be answered
2. Is the second coming of Christ all ready born and if so do the angles know? Does anyone know?
3. I herd you hung out with satan before the whole job thing. Did you play cards do you to just hangout at random and you tell him how things are going for you?
Thank you for the whales, @pennycrumb-stan. They're lovely.
1. I'll answer your first question with a question of my own. Which Adam? There are a lot of people named Adam, though some of them would be more capable of making whales than others. I can confirm I spoke to the very first, even though he didn't make a whale.
2. The Second Coming of Christ is already born, yes, and already died as well, because Jesus' Second Coming is the return of the original Jesus, not a new baby--but watch out. The Second Coming also includes a false prophet that pretends to be the return of the original messiah first, before the actual Jesus shows up.
I'm sure there won't be any confusion about who's who on Heaven or Hell's ends, though. And certainly not on Aziraphale and Crowley's, either, however they might respectively be involved.
3. Satan and I had a bet, but the negotiation of its terms and the signing of the contract was facilitated by a go-between. We were never in the same room. That was Satan's choice, by the way. He still hadn't gotten over being banished to Hell, and I don't believe he has now, either.
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historian-crown · 5 months
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Mh, ok 1941 flashback nice and stuff, but what if we get a 2019 flashback? What if we get the night at Crowleys and it reveals to us that s2ep6 was not their first kiss?
Just silly thoughts, ya know...
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procrastiel · 6 months
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yeah alright, but what if Crowley says "I forgive you" in season 3
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febelinlove · 1 month
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I saw that someone had already talked about the anger and grief that would obviously kill these two divorced BUT
How about Aziraphale being so unhappy that it looked like this? In the sense that his appearance and actions were not a refusal, Aziraphale didn't say no or anything like that. He doesn't look happy walking with Metatron.It was just necessary, he had no choice(?) In that sense, he had no obvious choice.
It’s just that the Angel most likely realizes how painful Crowley is at this moment.He himself is in no less pain. He's not so naive that he doesn't understand. And we all saw those tears in the eyes of these two!
IT'S HORRIBLE
I just think Aziraphale has a plan that he's going to do and it's going to be something...Impossible, as always
But I still can't be sure how tragic it is because of the sound of the miracle in the last scene. This freaks me out
This is not really a theory, just thoughts
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az4ael · 6 months
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ANGEL KISSES (bc i'm simply enamoured with the idea of this)
so everyone knows how freckles are also referred to as 'angel kisses'. well i feel like in s3 prefferably in either the first 5-10 minutes crowley's driving in his bentley as we saw in s2 ep6, and looks at himself through the mirror in his bentley and he notices a small dot on his lips. ON THE EXACT PLACE HE KISSED AZIRAPHALE!! and ofc he'll be oblivious as to how it got there bc they're oblivious af.
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giantmushyfriend · 9 months
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Another Season 3 scene that would kill me
SEASON 2 SPOILERS: 
Okay, imagine, it’s towards the end of series 3. It’s Maggie and Nina’s wedding reception, and the staging mirrors the beginning of the dance scene from series 2. Aziraphale is watching the two of them dance, smiling like a maniac because as an angel he just loves love (that and this is probably the happiest he’s been in years since he’s been in Heaven). All of a sudden Crowley is there next to him and the two of them start talking, and eventually, we get hit with something like THIS: 
Crowley: Why don’t you tell me about it while we dance?
Aziraphale: (shocked) I thought you said we don’t dance, remember? 
Crowley: We never used to do all sorts of things, angel. Let’s change that. 
Neil, P L E A S E 
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cassandralie · 8 months
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Among the lampstands was One like the Son of Man.
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The hair of His head was white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes were like a blazing fire.
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He held in His right hand seven stars, and a sharp double-edged sword came from His mouth.
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His face was like the sun shining at its brightest.
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Revelation 1: 13-16
What if, together, both Aziraphale and Crowley are the Second Coming?
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