#hc: theseus

[sanska]

Ariadne explaining how to navigate the labyrinth (and after) to Theseus. It’s important, she’s committing treason for you Theseus, don’t look at her like that.

[taviokapudding]

Simon's joke of "soup of theseus" is so damn good & way more layered than most people think.

Okay so first- what is the ship of Theseus?

So amongst his many misadventures and legends the ship of theseus was a ship the Athenians believed connected them to the divine living person that was Theseus. The thing is, he was maybe Poseidon's adopted kid/the King if Athen's son and probably not real (or at least if he did his misadventures were super exaggerated as royals = divity stories are) but the fate the Athenians had for him & Apollo (the 6 labors is a fun legend that explains their connection and what the original ship may have been) was so intense, they would constantly give maintence as a form of religious worship to said ship on the island of Delos (where Apollo's most sacred sancutary is) every year it would dock to pay respects.

Btw we don't need to know the specifics of Theseus but he did infamously slay a minotar and Finn did have a good exchange with the Mannish Man to get the enchiridion aka the book that sets Betty & Simon on the paths they are on now so that's neat af

So if you've ever heard about the ship of Theseus being paradox- it comes from the critique that's always existed about that ship's maintenance & religious practices tldr if you are constantly replacing each rotted and borken part of a ship, is it still the same ship?

The soup is a paradox like the ship

That paradox exists in many many scifi and adventure stories like the Nier series & Ghost in the Shell but in this instance we got to first look at the joke literally. Farm world's Finn's wife's soup is the same as the ship. The original soup farm world HW made no longer exists on a technicality, but the way Finn and his kids continue to add on and consume the soup is exactly like the Athenians. It's about the intent of carrying on the memory and keeping the soup around to honor the dead rather than the soup's original recipe {which also is incredibly sad & imples that farmworld Finn is both coping and never learned the original soup recipe}. It's a beautiful way to honor their dead mom/wife and it makes you wonder if that Finn did die if his kids will continue the practice.

But the paradox goes beyond the soup & into our reality

A lot of people have noticed that Fionna's last name is Campbell and Campbells is a real soup brand that would've been around before the great mushroom war. When Marceline gets sick as a kid, Simon goes great lenghts to get her chicken soup- that only worked out because the primordial version of the Mother Gum assisting {which is extreme Bubbeline foreshadowing}. And in that scene the can low key is a campbell design. But what if I told you there's more?

In Cheers, the tv show Simon is seen constantly watching and referencing throughout the original run of Adventure Time & in the recent Fionna and Cake had Carla Tortelli work at a Canpbell's Factory.

Neat references aside the soup ends the moment the main trio hit the remote button and I have a BA in psychology & interest in childrens media and entertainment that I want to milk for once. Metaphorical intention is beyond relevant episode specifics but actually the foundation of Fionna and Cake when it comes to the paradox.

Simon making the soup of Theseus joke is the main problem Fionna and Cake has to address

If Simon can summon his & Prismo's au from his head without proper MMS (Magic, Madness, and Sadness) where does Simon the human start and Ice King end?

As viewers who grew up alongside the series, the majority of 25+ watchers are finding Simon, older Finn, and Fionna painfully relatable because good fucking god we are all traumatized because of the ongoing pandemic.

If you want to focus on the main topic you can skip this part. But if you want to get very serious for a minute, please stay. The majority of people wont to accept what I just said about the pandemic being ongoing because global governments pretending the pandemic is over, the rise of depression and escapism in real time at a social level at a global level but especially in the US where the series is being made, and the daily interactions we have with most people refusing to mask up {with a violent reaction} when there still isn't a cure for COVID has created the perfect enviroment for most people to not accept change or crave extreme change. Fionna and Cake tackles these 2 very common forms of how depression tends to manifest when it's not fully manic to be displayed through Simon (self isolation from poor coping due to loss, detachment from society, dwelling on the past to the point it effects social interactions, extreme forms of religious practice, etc.) and Fionna/Finn (pretending everything is fine, avoidance, going through the bare minimum motions to survive, escapsim and dream of grandure, not caring about sel preservation, no/lack of self control with sweets/coffee, etc.). And I've noted there's a subset of AT viewers who don't relate or find the depections too real to the point they're upset the show's tone isn't as light hearted as AT. The thing is when a global disabling event happens, unless you were under 10 when it happened and even then it's a 50/50 because you probably did lose or know somebody who did die these last several years, you will have some kind of trauma response to it whether you like it or not. Hell, some of you unknowlingly have a gap in your memory about 2020 specifically due to inconsistent sleep schedules that have nothing to do with the shrinking of the brain mass COVID causes that we all call "brain fog" and now that I pointed it out you're probably going to go stare at a wall for 5 mins {sorry btw, doubly if you have long COVID and this is how you found out what brain fog partially is}. As someone who's been dealing with depression since I was a child, it's okay to be not okay given the last several years and doubly if you've been conscious long enough to see the US freefall into fascism too {which I hope encourages those who weren't aware that's been happening to go look into that because we can't get into it right now}. Because I unfortunately know what manic depression can look like - if you find yourself relating to Simon a little too much during ep 3, please talk to somebody who is licensed and trained to do so {not me, I haven't done suicide prevention work since 2017 and am not licensed- I genuienly won't be enough of a resource} okay? Don't throw away yourself nor change yourself for others only. You need to work to accept the past, move on to live in the present, and change yourself for yourself. It won't be easy and resources are out there to not do it alone, alright?

Becuase of how paradoxial and fluid mental health (espeically undiagnosed depression) can be and how AT has it's own version with MMS, could Simon have unconscious MMS still because of Betty's with without a battery but can't tap into it because of his mental state? And could Ice King as we once knew him even be considered a proper person Simon could return too?

The original wish of why Ice King's appearance & abilities is the way it is IS because of Evergreen's impression on Gunter {Evergreen was one of the ice elementals of the past btw- go watch the original Adventure Time for that context}. So Ice King isn't even an original character, just the crown building off the wishes and manifestations of each bearer by emulating a warped version of Evergreen. And that's the main reason why I speculate Ice Thing aka Gunter the Penguin is chill af to the point he got married and can exist with less gems. His wish didn't build off of power to protect Marceline (Simon) nor the power to copy Evergreen (Original Gunter).

As the main trio jump from connected universe to connected universe, more Simons and crowns will appear that are even more removed from our Ooo's crown and it's version of Ice King or Ice Prince or Winter King will only manifest because of the prior and current wishes made. So if Simon does get a crown that isn't the Ooo crown, will the Ice King that once existed even be THE Ice King he wants to be? And will Simon want to be Ice King or an Ice King when the trio do return to his Ooo?

The crown and it's many versions is a paradox that can only be resolved if Simon and Fionna can work together but also set aside their depression to address what they both really want and what that wish's intention will do to themselves and those around them. In short, shit's deep

I applaud the team for Fionna and Cake for tackling such a layered problem and I'm excited to see how Simon's soup of emotions, Fionna's growth, & magic crown of Theseus is addressed.

[lunatheseus]

Random things Newt Scamander would do:

Never correct the Starbucks employees when they get his name wrong + tip always

Buy random things for people just because the item reminds him of them

Carry something of Tina's wherever he goes because he's just THAT whipped

Write down all his ideas in a notebook the moment he thinks of them

Have hidden pockets sewn into his clothes

Collect sand from each beach that he visits

Sketch every creature he sees

Keep jars and jars of curious things

Collect tokens to commemorate each place that he's visited

Talk to his plants

Write letters (not just because of the time period he resides in)

Keep a piece of chocolate or candy in his pocket/hat

Be one of those awkward but wholesome vloggers to document his discoveries and experiences

[championofelysium]

Shades in Elysium don't need to sleep or eat, technically. Many do just because it's familiar and pleasurable, and though it doesn't provide nourishment in the traditional sense, a shade who doesn't continue to care for their phantasmal body will be weaker than someone who does.

Theseus has a bad habit of rushing around... He keeps himself busy most of the time, whether it be with sparring, champion work, or other his miscellaneous hobbies. While he attends parties within Elysium, he doesn't do much more than enjoy the ambrosia and talk to his fans..... You'd think he would take a bit better care of himself! But he is as reckless in death as he was in life.

When Theseus brings Asterius to Elysium, he's very adamant that Asterius care for himself. He introduces Asterius to new foods, to sweet drinks, to nice places to nap... Asterius always asks Theseus to join him during these activities, even though he could no doubt do them on his own; it's better with a companion, is all.

Over time, Theseus starts to realize how badly he missed doing these mundane things... He thanks Asterius for reminding him, as unintentional as it was.

[ancientgreekyuri]

Asterius is the only f/o I have that couldn't be accurately described with Jealous and Selfish which is very funny of him. Good job Asterius being so confident and secure 💕

[kingsbride-moved]

Sometimes I think about Theseus growing his hair back out once he becomes more confident in himself and who he is 💕 so I wanted to draw something about it... though I got carried away 💔💔💔

[godsofhumanity]

I don’t know if this is still happening but 🌻🌻🌻

hiii it's always happening hee hee :))

more stuff about heroes,, this time specifically about Phaedra <3

i think the whole story about Phaedra and Hippolytus makes sense whether you like the version where Aphrodite curses her to fall in love with Hippolytus, or the version where it happens of her own volition. i think she was only a moment away from tragedy with or without the gods, IMO.

i love the idea of Phaedra and Ariadne being tight... i think they would've done everything together. i have a little hc of Phaedra, just like Ariadne, being completely awestruck by Theseus' bravery when he arrives with the other Athenian youths; he's young, courageous, sure of himself,,, and let's not forget he's pretty cute too. i think, for a young girl, probably a girl who absolutely despises the fact that her father is murdering so many children her age without a second thought, the idea of Theseus is very appealing. so i think she's got a bit of a crush on him. but it's a harmless one... it's not serious; she wishes nothing but happiness for Ariadne and Theseus when they conspire to leave Crete and save Athens. they are good together. this is why, when Theseus leaves Ariadne, and Phaedra has no choice but to marry him,, it's such a difficult decision for her. she has to marry her sister's love. and i do think he was the first ever love of Ariadne's life. that's hugely important.

Phaedra and Theseus' marriage begins unhappily. he doesn't truly want to marry her because she reminds of what he's lost; Ariadne. she's just the younger sister.. the next available. she's a stand-in. Phaedra isn't happy either... she doesn't want to stand where her sister should be. she's worth more. her sister is worth more. theirs is a marriage of convenience, and both of them never fail to remind each other of that. i think they have some sweet moments; moments where they stop trying to attack each other and find peace. but most of the time, they don't talk. if they talk, they fight. Phaedra becomes isolated; she doesn't know anyone in Athens. she stays, holed up in the palace. Theseus spends his time with Pirithous,, drinking, hunting, sleeping with other women. if he spends time with Phaedra, the gods will take her too, perhaps.

when Hippolytus comes to Athens, kicked out from the Amazons' island because very soon he will become a man and they can't have that, i think it is very refreshing for Phaedra. Hippolytus is nothing like Theseus except in looks. he's gentle, soft-spoken, polite. i'd imagine, amongst the Amazons, he wouldn't speak much-- the women would speak before him always. he's not a pushover either-- he argues with his father about marriage and being a prince; it's not the life he wants. all these things place him higher in Phaedra's eyes. and it helps that Hippolytus is very cordial towards Phaedra. he respects her... sees her as a person... something that Theseus doesn't seem to do anymore. this is why, when Hippolytus offends Aphrodite and Phaedra gets cursed to fall in love with her step-son, i think that it wasn't much of a push. she is abandoned by pretty much everyone in her life; her father and her other siblings don't try to bring her home, her mother is completely placid, her sister is who-knows-where, her husband is inattentive and treats her with contempt. then this young boy comes along and actually listens to her. hears her out. he acts like a decent human being and he is not under any obligation to. how could she not find solace in Hippolytus' presence?

i personally like the idea of the gods interfering in Phaedra's life, less so to punish Phaedra, and more so to punish Theseus. i won't go into this here because i'm rambling now, but the tragedy of Phaedra's life is that her story would happen with or without the gods interfering... i dont think there was ever any happy-ever-after for her :/

semi-related, but if ur curious about my ideas of Phaedra and Theseus, u should read my little story here

[artpocalypse]

Have some more wip

[feliphilia]

Harry Potter characters nationality headcanons because I'm bored

(WARNING: slight spoilers for fantastic beasts and secrets of Dumbledore. If you haven't watched it yet. You've been warned)

Part-3 : 1920's era

Newt- Canadian and British

Theseus- Canadian and British

Leta- african and french

Tina- american

Queenie- american

Jacob- Russian and american (have you seen his surname? Definitely russian)

Credence/Aurelius- swiss and french

Nagini- Japanese and chinese

Vinda rosier- french

[inthecarpets]

I think trans Theseus wouldn't even need a top surgery to have flat chest if he wanted one.

He had boobs so small they evaporated under his gym bro regiment.

[darkwater-reservoir]

THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE HALF-CROP FUCKING WHAT???????

[autobotmedic]

(Headcanon + Domus)

hc

[ Due to the length of the trip required (and lack of direct routes, even as Cybertron continued to develop), Ratchet did not often visit home from Iacon. On one of the rare few occasions he did, however, he invited Orion to join him (as he had expressed interest about his language and culture more than once).

He accepted, and they shared the long road trip to and from Domus together. In addition to the drive and stops along the way, Ratch enjoyed sharing his home, its surrounding plains and caverns, and the individuals he knew for the first portion of his life after he was forged, with the closest friend he had made in Iacon.

It is one of Ratchet's fondest series of memories from before the war.

[daughterofthetis]

cassidy tag dump

[astro-candii]

Do you have any thoughts on system/DID Cater Diamond HCs? It’s a lot more common than I thought.

Really? :0 Idk if this would be just a tumblr thing or me feeling like a baby in the twist fandom but it’s so hard to find peoples hcs and content here!!! My tumblr feels like a wasteland I gotta look for more people </3

(Keep in mind, I am not a System myself so everything I say should be taken with big grains of salt! And also feel free to correct me if I say anything wrong or needs correcting)

But I do see it! I’m more on the neutral side since again, not a system so I wouldn’t be able to really say what’s accurate or understand it enough to push the hc myself, but I see why people would. Cater feels like such a complicated character, who has a lot more to him than he lets on or wants others to know, because he’d rather keep and protect himself by keeping a barrier or distance between himself and those around him.

Overall I think it’s a cool hc (if done right of course and handled with care), it does make me question what him being a system would be like and how it could possibly apply to his UM. I feel like this is me giving more questions than answers, now I wanna see more of this be talked about!!

[ancientgreekyuri]

theseus loves asterius sooooo much but he's also very scared and insecure about their relationship due to the fact that he doesn't really have any other close relationships (in canon. as we all know dianthus is obsessed with him) and it results in him lashing out when he feels that relationship is threatened 💔

[kingsbride-moved]

Silly HC: Theseus' thick eyebrows, chin cleft, and squarish jaw come from his mom's side of the family, while his hooked nose, blue eyes, and blonde hair come from his dad's side.

In ancient cultures, blonde hair and blue eyes were considered "barbarian" traits, so it probably helped his family spread around the idea that Theseus is a son of Poseidon 😭