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liathgray · 2 years
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It takes everything in me not to go batshit all the time count your fucking blessings
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bleedingballpoint · 1 month
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coffinshipping and shotgunshipping is so fun to me im like haha what freaks! and then when i think of chainshipping i get impossibly sad
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codecicle · 10 months
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tumblr is wild. my friends and genuine lifelong bonds I've made on here are making posts talking about how they appreciate and love me and my boyfriend (who I also met through tumblr) because us being sweet together on the dash makes them happy. then i go back to reblogging the clip of charlie slimecicle in the shower rubbing soap on his chest making his tits bounce and honestly I wouldn't have it any other way peak website peak performance this is amazing. 12/10 no notes
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sapchats · 11 months
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yall saying what you'd do in the dtblr commune is funny bc you would not catch me out there sorry. like i wish you all the best with that i literally would rather be dead
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moonshynecybin · 4 months
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what would you consider essential marc and rosquez watching? i don’t mean races but the stuff happening around it, there seems to be so much and idk where to start 😭
BIG ass question. i think it depends what you want outta this and how you best interact with content slash consume information. for me (not to brag but. winner of multiple historical essay writing competitions in high school. for context on the kind of freak i am bringing to the table here.) the research is kind of the fun part ! like i just started googling shit! i would go to inactive blogs and just search 'marquez' on them to see what would happen ! a lot of the times that works ! but it also takes a lotttt of time lol so i'll chuck some good resources your way, why not...
okay im not sure how basic we're talkin here but um. background. so the documentaries are, i think. the best place to start. theyre entertaining and offer a good amalgamation of clips to provide context for the actual racing. and like i know you de-emphasized racing (which is fine lol who cares) but it really is like the most important thing in the world to these fools and its a pretty visual sport so i think its at least helpful. like yes sepang IS about the press conference, but its also about the conversation they have ON the race track using their motorcycles. which is also somewhat a conversation that they HAVE been having all year long...
i'd start with hitting the apex (2013), its a GREAT introduction to the "characters" that does a lot of legwork to contextualize everything. lays the scene for where vale is at coming into his relationship with marc (both personally, wrt to marco simoncelli, and career-wise concerning his flop at ducati), and also how insane marc's whole deal is in general. the second half is. materially a study on what him entering the premiere class did to the sport as a whole. the introductory chapter in many respects
marc marquez: all in. MY introduction and blissfully free online. marc comma in his own words, with all the implications of that. a self-produced documentary where he is giving feedback about the edit of said documentary straight to camera and no less vulnerable because of it which is very marc imo. revealing both intentionally AND unintentionally about his whole deal with injury, vale, and his image.
motogp unlimited. im gonna be real kind of boring. like i would still watch it ! but do it kind of later, once you know the major players so youre automatically more invested. it doesnt really give you more than marc says himself in all in tbh, and i get the sense him and vale were NAWWWT interested in doing more than the bare minimum for it.
marc's rookie doc. free and subtitled on the youtubes. the first half of this is deadass just him wanting to fuck vale so bad while every comment from vale has me saying GIRL. out loud because the foreshadowing would be genuinely shocking if this was fiction. anyways the laguna seca of it all....
next i would hit up PODCASTS ! i think it makes sense after the documentaries, because these are all podcasts that arent strictly about rosquez (even if they are in many ways the main characters lmao) and personally it helps to put faces to lesser known names that might pop up before i listen to a purely audio product and get lost in the soup of sounds. the paddock pass podcast has two retrospective episodes about the 2015 season that are really good at context, oxley bom pod has a fun recent episode on valentino that i love, again just poke around a lil
videos. these guys have never filmed a lot of content together tragically. what i wouldnt give for someone to make them do an escape room. anyways ranch visit HERE (post explaining the ranch visit here). sepang presscon (sowwy) here. vale unhinged podcast interview the month after marc's documentary came out here. vale retirement interview where he gets asked about marc here. vale talking about asking marc to the ranch here. vale postrace at argentina 2018 here. UCCIO postrace at argentina 2018 here. theres a lot moreeeee just go on my blog archive and filter for rosquez and vids its easier lol
journalism. hello. okay so you should genuinely spend some time reading through mat oxley's stuff he can write (theres a paywall but you can run that shit through wayback machine). he also loves an insane comparison which i do enjoy.... again this is one that can be solved by googling his name and tacking on 'marquez' or 'rossi' or a specific time period or race it will probably reap some dividends. in terms of specific ass articles this one is kind of load bearing in terms of sepang and some of the interpersonal competitive tensions at play. that being said there are manyyyyyy crazy interviews and snippents of articles from other journos floating around motogp tumblr (like literally too many to link) adn its fun to dig around to find them, but mat oxley gets a shoutout because i was reading this article TODAY !
other content. honestly one of the best resources I'VE found for plotting out the arc of their relationship is @kingofthering's everyrosquezpodium series. you can REALLY see it play out lol. also her tagging system rules she very neatly lays out years and races... so if something jumps out at you, CLICK ITTTT ! also all of @ricciardoes fave presscon moments series. insane.
all this to say a small little rpf fandom like this rewards some digging! i would just recommend following narrative threads that interest you ! its also a small fanbase that is pretty research oriented, so if youre ever confused about somethin, just shoot an ask or run a search on someone's blog (@kwisatzworld has endless vale resources and @batsplat is one of the most thorough researchers ive ever seen, for example) like for real theres so much... i also have a primer that i made forever ago that has some links on it so you can peruse that if you so wish. but frankly a lot of it is just using those research muscles and being sufficiently deranged enough to be screenshotting reddit threads at one am so you can post them to tumblr because they mentioned marc and vale in the same sentence and that lit up some of the neurons in your brain
(and i know you said outside of races but i think theyre good benchmarks as turning points soooo you should do some diggin on laguna seca 2013, jerez 2015, argentina 2015, ASSEN 2015, sepang 2015 obvi, argentina 2018, and misano 2019. those are the big tentpoles of insane rosquez relationship drama imo. i mean theres many more but. im limiting myself.)
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itsnotmourn · 3 months
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can i be so real
your Carmen/Richard art makes me feel guilty /POS POSPOSPSOPSOPSOPSOPS SLASH POSITIVE. in a GOOD WAY i sWEAR
very very quick context, i have an oc i ship with richard but not in a cool polyamory way in a cheating way, and in this.. oc-universe?? i interpret Carmen/Richard as a not healthy marriage
aND SEEING YOUR ART OF THEM BEING FCKING ADORABLE makes me!? hauehUHAU IT MAKES ME FEEL BAD HEUBGHFBNJ
your art is very pretty and so nice i lowkey consider it like... canon? like theres no conformation of their relationship at all, but bc of your art i just consider them this adorable rich couple
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off to the side i hold my cheating angst behind my back
sorry about the rant this is something i think is funny and that i mean as a very high compliment
LMAO ??
mm whatever people do with their OC/CC ship and/or their au with Carmen/Richard is up to them; anything that doesn't quite fit my cup of tea would just be looked away (or muted/blocked if it's really horrific content) so i got no comment on that :>
though! for your second point, i will say that: unless you consider material (doodles, pelo's words) outside of the episodes as NOT canon, there is somewhat a confirmation that Carmen and Richard are in a good relationship, if that’s what you mean !!
just for quick examples of such if you're curious:
Richard calls her Darling frequently
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during a discord qna, when asked if Carmen and Richard even loved each other or if they would ever get a divorce, Pelo said “they love each other...” but it could be argued that he is trolling (personal note: when i started posting art, he commented positively a few times on my ship art of them so if he IS lying about their love, i'm throwing so many hands at him /silly)
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he draws them with love like look at that jesus CRHIST love is real
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and others but it’s more-so speculation rather than outright confirmation
so yeah, via episode only, their relationship is a mystery and all that is canon is that their parental philosophy and attitudes towards people of a lower status is REALLY ass lol.
glad to hear that my art made you think more positively of them though; i'm always pleased when my art makes other people like them a bit more !! <:3c
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andro526484339 · 6 months
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the androverse plot condensed for the tumblings
phan and carter are assigned to work together on a mission as a temporary pair of partners after their performances as agents has been declining (Phan is essentially an assassin and Carter is a run of the mill secret agent espionage type). kind of like a challenge of work together and do good or get bent
their goal is to dig up the true identity of an anonymous journalist and orders will continue as more factoids are uncovered. however after like 30% of the story has gone by carter is unfortunate to find out that that journalist is in fact her ex of like eight years that she's never gotten over. she pleads with phan not to kill her but she doesn't gaf. either way it doesn't happen because it just so happens that eloise has some juicy details specifically about something government related that phans father (who killed himself forever ago) was involved in. the three of them end up in an uneasy alliance that gets cut short because surprise surprise eloise is in fact killed by a different agent and they figured out what was going on
now phan is given a sort of ultimatum. carter is taken and used as a piece of bait to get phans ass over to where BRANNIGAN is at. brannigan is phans boss slash mentor slash strange maternal figure slash freudian attachment and she took in a teenage phan and groomed her to be the perfect agent. that's all that's relevant anyway she tells phan that if she shoots carter (who she sees as the root cause of this and is currently tied on a chair) she'll scrub this all from her record it'll be fine. but phan shoots brannigan instead. and now she's dead. whoops.
so now the two of them are essentially on the run from the agency trying to get their asses. carter is looking to find who killed eloise and phan is looking to find the doctor who oversaw the experimentation that her father was involved in. that was what eloise was digging up for the record and part of why phan killed brannigan as she came to realize that this was being hid from her all this time. the genetic experimentation plot is metal gear shit and it's in a world where mapping the human genome came in the 80s. phan is partly affected by it by it being something inheritable and this is part of why they kept an eye on her. technology has really advanced huh
Anyway as they continue on their journey phan is getting gradually more sick it turns out she has some insane form of cancer caused by her unstable cellular structure that has decided to onset now that she is without the regular checkups. her father killed himself because of a similar thing. now finding the doctor is a lot more imperative
ok that's enough you get the gist. carter does end up killing eloises killer which doesn't get her much of anywhere and the two of them kind of drag the doctor around on a leash. anyway they both end up killing themselves at the end cause yeah they're both pos and should die anyway. cause everything in this is motivated by purely selfish means
also phan and carters relationship timeline is a whole other beast. I could explain all of the reasons why they started finagling with each other but that would be different from plot now wouldn't it. their first time is after phan gets shot in the leg and carter helps take care of her and they start to see each other as equal partners who can be somewjat vulnerable around each other
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hermanunworthy · 10 months
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Hi, there, Siren, hope you're doing well! If you're still taking dndads ship requests, how about maybe 35 for Cheerkicks/Oakli (not entirely sure on the name here, but. Link and Normal. You get it), please? Feeling in a silly rarepair mood today hehe 💚💚💚
Bullet Holes and Acne Scars (and Other Wounds to Heal)
35. kissing their bruises and scars
from the touch prompts list!
I WAITED A MONTH TO START ON THIS HELP 😭 trust me though ive been so excited about this one, oakicks makes me ill /pos (and also im glad i waited bc i got to use the latest episode as context for this scene!)
cw: violence (including gun violence), blood and injury
also on ao3!
Normal never would’ve taken Lincoln as a fighter, at first.
Ever since they were young, Lincoln has been timid, uptight, the type to go rigid if you get too close to him. Or maybe that’s just in Normal’s case. They’re working on it, though. He thinks. He hopes.
He never would've thought that the sweet kid he used to see kicking rocks in the corner or a soccer ball on a field would one day be kicking FBI agents and military soldiers on the battlefield. With the force of a beast.
Normal thinks he understands, now, why Lincoln’s dads tried to shelter their son so much.
But he also thinks he understands, as he’s too distracted looking at Lincoln to succeed at the spell he’s currently casting, the way he feels. He may not understand what it’s like to be unconditionally loved by his parents (something that arouses a deeply-rooted feeling of envy in him towards his friend, but that’s another thing he’s working on), but he understands what it’s like to feel pressured by his parents. And he thinks, in their own loving way, Lincoln’s dads have pressured him too much. And this is his release. His rebellion. Like a caged animal set free.
And Normal does believe he deserves this. However. It also concerns him greatly.
Because the paladin is moving so quickly, so aggressively, and the cleric is barely able to even keep an eye on him but it sounds like he's breathing heavily and at one point he thinks he catches a glimmer of something in his eye. And it all keeps distracting him from helping out in the battle himself.
Normal just narrowly avoids another incoming attack. Focus, Normal, fucking focus! He shakes his head, his heart pounding irregularly in his chest, trying to pay attention to anything other than Lincoln, Lincoln, is Lincoln okay—
“Norm!” Scary’s voice calls from a ways away, blasting a fireball directly into a man’s face. “Taylor could use your help!”
“No, I—!” Taylor immediately snaps back from where he stands off, holding a soldier back with their weapons clashed. “Uh, I mean… Yeah! Normie! We need you!”
Normal leaps straight into action, fueled by his friends’ words and ready to defend them, but realizes while he’s charging his spell just what’s going on. Something burns within him, something that has settled deep within his veins and has been repeatedly threatening to burst through these days. Do you really need my help, or do you just want to feel better about being such a dick to me lately?
His spell fizzles out in failure again, and he clutches his head and growls to himself. Lincoln, get out of my damn head!
“Norm— Augh!” Scary, in her distraction, takes a blunt melee attack to the head, knocking her down.
Taylor swivels around with a slash to his opponent to face Scary’s assailant. “What the hell?!” He jabs his sword toward the FBI agent. “Normal! What’s with the weaksauce spells?”
The blood is roaring in Normal’s ears so loudly that he can't even hear himself stuttering. He dizzily looks between Scary on the ground, Taylor standing off against the agent, and Lincoln, off in the distance, surrounded by soldiers. He's paralyzed. His lungs feel compressed tightly in his chest, and not even the strong emotion shooting through his blood is enough to awaken any magic.
Scary, thank the metaphorical heavens and not the godawful place they all visited earlier, manages to make it back onto her feet, but not without great effort. “You're—” She coughs. “You're good, Norm, you're good.”
The squeezing feeling in Normal’s chest somehow worsens. Stop it, don't say that. Why am I even here? I'm no help at all!
He stumbles backwards, and his back bumps into somebody. Before he can turn around to face them, a pair of burly arms are slung around his neck. Already short of breath, the cleric is easy to choke out, and his hands fly up to scratch at their sleeves. Panicking, he looks to Taylor, the closest nearby person, and cries out, “Help!”
Without a moment’s hesitation, Taylor drops what he’s doing and, like a true hero, blindly sprints over to slice the back of Normal’s attacker. The arms release him from the chokehold, and he falls to the ground, heaving for air.
But he isn't able to recover for long, because somebody is yanking him back up by his collar. He braces himself this time, but finds himself face-to-face with Taylor. His expression is twisted in anger, the way he looked at him the last time they argued.
“What the fuck was that, dude?! You can't even use a spell to help me, but you can use me to help you?” He shoves him, nearly toppling him back to the ground.
He… I used a Command on Taylor, didn't I? He didn't even realize. It was just instinct, of course he wouldn't just use his friend like that…
You only ever want to help yourself, a familiar voice scolds him in his head.
“Taylor, quit it, he’s already been…!” Scary is beginning to argue with him now, but Normal can't even pay attention to that anymore.
Lincoln is now fighting Agent Shmegan.
The man is trying to resist his attacks, shielding his body with his arms and trying to talk to him, but the paladin will not let up. “Kid, if you could just— You're making this harder than it needs to be, we just want—”
“I don't care what you want!” Lincoln roars, the first words Normal has heard him say during this entire fight. “I'm not going to listen to you anymore! I hate you adults! Fuck you!” He kicks him again, and again, and he's starting to lose his momentum with each swing but he refuses to give up. “Fuck you! Fuck you!”
Normal knows Lincoln has a history with this man, but he also can tell that this is not just about him and Taylor’s kidnapping.
“Li-Wilson— Please just get a hold of yourself and your friends—” Schmegan orders through grunts of pain. Normal knows Lincoln has been training hard to perfect his soccer kicks, so that can't feel good to take.
“Shut up! That’s Mr. Kicks to you!” The soccer player utilizes a swift kick to the crotch as emphasis.
While the FBI agent is finally doubled over in pain, unable to make any more demands, Lincoln’s body heaves with effort. He looks like he’s preparing another kick, but he’s cut short when a loud gunshot fires out, and he stumbles backwards.
“Link!” Normal shrieks, his body finally allowing him to move again, and he dives over to where his friend has fallen. As he gets close, it becomes apparent to him that Lincoln is crying, and he’s crying hard.
“Sir, let's get out of here.” Another agent, holding the gun used to shoot Lincoln, rushes over to Shmegan’s aid, helping him to lean on his shoulder and escort him back to their helicopter. “Freeman kept us from capturing the King, but we have him and his buddies as hostages for later. We need to retreat for now.”
Shmegan’s face contorts in pain and anger. “That better include Wilson. I have some words for that man about his son.”
The other agent chuckles wryly. “Oh, yes, sir. He’s been incapacitated since the fight began.” He looks down at where Lincoln sits, with no sense of remorse. “Seems we’re not the only ones disturbed by that kid’s violence.”
Normal is crouched by Lincoln’s side, trembling just as bad as he is. “Link, it’s Normal. Normal’s here.” God, that must be the least comforting thing he could hear right now. He must be the last person he wants to help him.
Normal’s hands are on Lincoln’s hands. Lincoln’s hands are on his knee. Lincoln’s blood is on his hands, on his knee, on his clothes, on the ground…
“Dad,” Lincoln sobs weakly. “Dad.”
All of Lincoln’s fight has left him. Now he’s just a scared, powerless little kid.
And so is Normal, now that he’s drained of magic. He can't cast any more spells. He used the last one to help himself. He can't heal his friend. And dear god, Lincoln’s still crying for his dad. But Grant has been captured. And so have the rest of their dads, it sounds.
Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck!
He presses down harder on the wound, but he can't tell if it’s even helping to stop the bleeding, or if it’s just him trying to squeeze Lincoln’s hands to help himself calm down. God fucking damn it, I'm so selfish, even as my friend is sitting here with an actual bullet wound… Can’t do shit for him…
He dares to look back up at Lincoln’s face, and finds it even worse to look at than all the blood. His eyes are scrunched up, leaking a river of tears down his face, his lips quivering with each shaking breath. It reminds him of when he got to see this boy as a baby, and how he promised him that it was going to be alright. He has to make this alright again, if it’s the last thing he does.
With one hand still pressing against his knee, Normal uses the other one to carefully lean forward and stroke his cheek again, wiping away some of his tears.
Lincoln opens his eyes, and when they meet Normal’s it’s clear that they are bloodshot and unfocused. “D-Dad…” he still whimpers. “Help…”
It hurts, knowing that he doesn't want Normal, but he tries to put himself in his shoes. What would I want from my dad, if I were him?
He knows Grant wouldn't know any healing spells. But he does know that he was very tender and affectionate with his son. He seems like he’s very gentle in how he cares for him, like he feels like his own dad has the potential to be.
He knows what he wanted his dad to do for him when he got hurt when he was younger. Grant seems like the type to care unconditionally, though. So, unlike his own dad, he ignores the disturbing and gross nature of this situation, and with all the love (and lack of magic) in his heart, he presses his lips lovingly against Lincoln’s knee as if it was simply the scraped knee of a child.
Lincoln gasps at the feeling, and Normal instantly regrets it, feeling like an utter idiot, He has an literal hole in his knee, I can't just kiss it better, this must be hurting him so bad—
“Normal,” Lincoln chokes at last. He grabs one of his friend’s hands and squeezes it with enough strength to break him. “Normal.”
The cleric lets out a squeak from the strong grip, but watches as a golden light begins to slowly, slowly glow from underneath the paladin’s other hand, which is still on his knee. He’s casting Lay on Hands on himself. Oh, Normal didn't even think about the fact that Lincoln hasn't been using any magic, so he probably could've…
But no, Lincoln wasn't able to help himself before, was he? It wasn't until Normal kissed him that that something in his eyes cleared, like a fog being lifted. Did Normal actually help? Or is he just being selfish, just taking credit for something that had nothing to do with—
“Thank you, Normal,” Lincoln breathes. The words he’s been wanting to hear all this time. Normal’s heart squeezes at the sound.
“Did you…” Normal’s own voice feels thick in his throat, and he realized just then that he has tears dripping down his face as well. “Did you even realize what you were doing? How hard you were fighting?”
More tears begin to roll down Lincoln’s cheeks. “It… There was no pain… At first… Only anger…”
He squeezes his friend’s hand back, but it’s not nearly as strong. Not as strong as Lincoln, never. “I was so worried, it felt like losing you…”
Lincoln’s face crumples again, and Normal can hardly bear to look at it. “Normal…”
His eyes wander over Lincoln’s body, realizing that there are other spots of blood not just from the gunshot. All sorts of cuts and bruises, all of which look very painful, but Lincoln hasn't acknowledged any of them. That “zone” that he seems to get into, that rush of adrenaline, that thrill of violence, must be a very, very dangerous place for him to be in. He never wants to lose his friend to that darkness again.
So he shows him the light. He leans in close to each wound, trailing the gentlest of kisses over the dark spots on his legs and the nasty gashes on his arms, never once shying away from the blood or the hair or the sweat or the filth because it's all normal to him, and even though he knows it's selfish to give Lincoln what he wants for himself, he wants to love Lincoln like he’s perfectly new.
“Normal,” is all Lincoln can say now, through his continued crying. “Normal, Normal…” The way he’s whimpering his name, like a prayer upon his lips, only fuels him further, the way it feels to have replenished magic surging through his veins.
It isn't until he gets tugged away by his hair that he realizes he should probably stop. But Lincoln's hand doesn’t move from the back of his head, and when he looks up at him, Lincoln just stares back, his pupils wide. “Normal,” he whispers again.
Lincoln’s gaze is roaming over his face, and especially over the blood drying on his mouth. Normal can taste it, he realizes self-consciously.
“How can you still be so nice to me?” His eyes shine with a horrible, heart-wrenching guilt, a guilt that Normal can feel himself as he fights the overwhelming need to kiss the one little cut that he missed, the one he’s been avoiding, because he knows it would be too selfish of him.
The one on his lip.
“I'm… so sorry.” Lincoln’s fingers loosen in his hair, but Normal still leans his head into his hand before he can decide to let go entirely. “For how I've… I've been so…”
“It's okay, Link,” Normal murmurs, even though he doesn't know if it's true. It’s just hard to focus on the long-term pain this boy has caused him when said boy is caressing the back of his neck so delicately that it makes him melt.
“No. You're my friend. You're my husband.” The certainty with which he says it brings Normal a shiver. “I need to make it up to you.”
This time, Lincoln is the one leaning forward. Normal freezes up, his face flushing red as his husband’s lips land on his cheek.
But Normal doesn't understand. He doesn't need healing, he doesn't have any scars. Not on the outside, anyway.
Is he… kissing my tears away?
Another kiss. And another. Each touch of his lips to his face leaves him with a feeling of warmth and light. Lincoln even reaches with his bloody hands to brush the sweaty hair sticking to Normal’s skin out of the way, and begins to leave kisses on his forehead as well.
Oh. He’s kissing his acne scars.
More tears run down where Lincoln has kissed. Nobody has ever… He's always been told that he's gross, that his acne is a problem, something to be ashamed of. He has spent countless hours staring at himself in the mirror, popping pimples and picking at scabs (despite his sister’s warnings), wondering why he has to look like this and if anyone could ever love him like this. His parents would never do something like this for him.
But Lincoln is. Lincoln, the one he’s been trying to win over for years. Lincoln, the kid he always wanted to play with but wasn't allowed to. Lincoln, the friend who always seemed to shut him down no matter how hard he tried to love him. That same guy is here, sitting on the ground in literal Hell, a bullet in his knee and blood on his clothes, his fingers curling in his greasy hair and his lips kissing his pockmarked face.
“I'm sorry,” Lincoln whispers tearfully against his skin. “Thank you for… for being my friend. For being you.”
As he pulls back, Normal pushes forward, resting his forehead against Lincoln’s. “I love you,” he sighs, selfishly but honestly. He hopes it brings Lincoln as much catharsis as it does him.
Lincoln glances up from where his eyes sat downcast at the blood on the ground, to stare into his husband’s eyes. His hand on Normal’s neck drifts to his jaw. Eyes still glittering sadly, he offers a smile, but the stretching of his lips opens his cut and makes him wince away in pain.
Normal reaches forward with a careful hand, and catches Lincoln’s chin. He really hopes this isn't going too far, too fast, too bold, like he always seems to be going without realizing it. “Let me…?” He can't even finish the question, can't bear another rejection.
But Lincoln beats him to it, kisses him first, kisses him better. Cradles him with such love and care that you’d think he’s the one being nursed back to health.
And it is undoubtedly healing. Something Normal has needed for a long time. Something that tastes like blood and grime and filth, something that tastes so normal and familiar that it feels like coming home. Feels like being blessed by an angel visiting Hell.
After all, Normal always thought Lincoln was more of a lover than a fighter.
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genderqueeradrien · 1 year
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ADRIEN AGRESTE BPD CODED? explain pls <- going O.O slash pos
ok so !!! this turned into an ESSAY i'm so sorry i've been thinking about this for ages and haven't put my thoughts on paper together yet so this is me doing that. also disclaimer irl at least in the us people usually cant get diagnosed with bpd until theyre atbut this is a french kid's show about magic superheroes so i'm ignoring a bit of real-world logistics for the sake of analysis. also, i'm starting with things that ARENT kuro neko specific but trust me we'll get to her.
warning: really long post. actual warning: there's mentions of self harm, talk of suicide and metaphorical suicide, and some discussion of canonical abuse + coping mechanisms. generally lots of mental illness stuff
(also in case the readmore breaks at some point im putting this here bc i want to have it saved Somewhere)
ALL THAT BEING SAID!
[blank paragraph in case the readmore eats the first paragraph. i love this website]
some bpd symptoms i see in adrien/chat noir:
identity disturbance, markedly/persistently unstable self-image/sense of self: there's been several times here adrien talks about wondering whether adrien or chat noir is his "true self," which is super interesting to me bc i (dissociative disorder haver) used to angst about that exact thing (though his situation is definitely different on account of being a superhero lol). there's also the fact that he doesn't have any idea who he is or what he wants to do with his future, and his mind goes blank whenever he thinks about it, which aligns with the difficulties in committing to goals/jobs often seen in bpd
potentially self-damaging impulsive behavior: he's always sacrificing himself for ladybug- here's 2 minutes straight of him doing it in timebreaker, dark cupid, zombizou, chameleon, gorilla, and gamer 2.0. he also does it in lies, reverser, and the shangai special, and probably several more. imo as well as showing an intense attachment to ladybug, it also shows a lack of regard for his own health and wellbeing :( not to mention all the times he runs to fight akumas with no plans or tries to fight them on a broken ankle or other general recklessness
suicidal or self harming behavior: i know this is a stretch but this is a kid's show so we're probably not going to like. see any of that onscreen in a literal sense. but i do feel like some of the times where he sacrifices himself over and over could count. because no matter how much he trusts ladybug there's no guarantee she'll be able to fix everything, and he's immediately willing to die/be teleported into a shadow realm/turned into a kissing zombie/despawn/etc despite that. also he tried to cataclysm himself during guiltrip, tho that was bc of an akuma (although akumas do generally amplify preexisting emotions)
inappropriate/intense/difficult to control anger: trying to cataclysm kim because he played a mean prank on marinette is the first thing i think of. i feel like he definitely tends to suppress anger until it bubbles up and explodes, like in representation when he's going off on his dad about his parenting being shitty, which, while justified, definitely put him in more danger of being hurt. also i know it was in an alternate timeline + he was akumatized but he DID kill everyone in the world that one time. i support him though. he's allowed to do that because i love him
a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships, splitting: prefacing this with i dont think ladybug + chat noir are in an unhealthy relationship, but i do think that sometimes the way he sees ladybug can be unhealthily idolizing, in a way that's very reminiscent of favourite persons in bpd. most of season 4 is him being in love with ladybug but feeling pushed aside, until he splits on her in kuro neko (which i'm getting to i promise. this post is way longer than i thought it'd be). there's also desperada where he spends months in a time loop trying to save her despite presumably knowing he's not the person who should be saving her right now.
stress-related paranoid ideation or dissociative symptoms: tbh i dont know much abt paranoid ideation so i won't speak on that too much, but i do think his worst fear in sandboy being ladybug being upset with him despite having never acted that way before might fall into that category? as for dissociative symptoms, aside from the identity thing i mentioned earlier, i guess the scene in kuro neko where he's sitting on his couch doing nothing except running his video game character into a wall could be him dissociating? also apparently (i havent read/seen this myself but ive heard abt it) astruc said chat noir is resistant to akumas because he's so used to disappointment, which could suggest a level of emotional numbing
when i first was watching miraculous i was kinda thinking abt adrien having bpd but i didn't have anything super solid to explain it. but it's fun for me to analyze characters' mental states and nothing explicitly contradicts it so whatever. BUT THEN. KURO NEKO.
when ladybug snaps at him he immediately jumps to the conclusion that she hates him/is tired of him (splitting, paranoid thinking)
he decides to leave, which may seem contradictory to "frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment," but pushing people away and essentially abandoning someone before they abandon you (whether or not that was actually going to happen) is a super common result of that symptom and it's what he's doing here. he thinks she doesn't need him, so before she can tell him this he leaves
he leaves his miraculous behind where someone couldve grabbed it because he felt rejected (impulsive behaviour)
then he goes home and tries to destroy all the traces of his love for ladybug, getting rid of his pictures of her on his phone and physical pictures as well (splitting, difficulty controlling anger)
when he wakes up he lies in bed, skips school, doesn't change out of his pajamas, and spends his time running his video game character into a wall. to me it looks like he's completely shut down (dissociation)/in a depressive episode
the show from the beginning sets up that being chat noir is an escape for adrien, and the beginning of season 4 really hammers that point home. we see adrien having an awful day and only finally perking up when he gets to see ladybug. so when adrien gives up his ring that's him giving up on not only himself but on a huge part of his life and one of the only parts that brings him happiness. the way he talks about giving up his ring ("i just can't do this anymore. i give up. on everything") sounds like something a suicidal person would say. this is also something he's expressed before, in syren, when he says "no one'll know if I quit. no one'll care!" (not for nothing, this also comes after him feeling rejected by ladybug). to me it feels like he's been balancing on this metaphorical-suicide metaphorical-ledge for a very long time and kuro neko is him giving up, and then realizing that giving up isn't the way to feel better. (suicidal ideation, fear of abandonment)
adrien doesn't hesitate at the idea of completely changing his personality to be who he thinks marinette wishes he was. the need to make himself into whoever he thinks will be wanted has been a running theme through his life (his childhood dream was to be whoever his parents wanted him to be), and it doesn't fully end with kuro neko- the same insecurities about not being good enough are still shown in the later half of season 5, with him telling marinette he's not worthy of her love and telling ladybug making jokes is all he was ever good for (both in revolution). (low self-esteem, fear of abandonment)
catwalker in general makes me go insane. i think a lot of catwalker comes from the persona he puts on when he's acting as adrien agreste, gabriel agreste's golden child. and i think the constant deference is also something he learned from the abuse from his father. he leans into the "fawn" coping mechanism (adapting to an abuser's wishes to appease them, denying your own needs for those of others) because it's what he's learned to do his whole life because of his father.
catwalker is like a personified fawn fear response. he's the personification of adrien's frantic attempts to avoid abandonment. he's loyal to a fault and would do whatever ladybug asked him to just to try and be good enough for her to stay. he doesn't realize that he's already good enough as adrien/chat noir, that ladybug needs him to be himself or her magic literally doesn't work. she can't do it on her own. she needs him but he's so scared she'll leave that he tries to leave first and then tries to mold himself into someone new who she could love. when he was already loved fully the whole time. aough.
some other smaller examples of his low self esteem & desperation to avoid abandonment:
trying to get good grades to impress his father and earn his love
staying friends with people and trusting them for far longer than is logical (chloé and lila)
feeling like he's not worthy of marinette's love or ladybug's partnership, feeling like he's not worthy to be a miraculous holder or that he's not helping the team, etc
the shocked relief in his eyes when ladybug says she won’t abandon him :(
when gabriel says to chat noir that his son is precious and chat/adrien looks at him Like That. yeah .
SO. YEAH. this post kinda got away from me a little bit as i defended my agresteology dissertation or whatever.
TLDR: he's impulsive and loyal to a fault, yet terrified of abandonment to the point where he tries to sabotage his relationships himself. he idolizes ladybug until he feels rejected by him, when he splits on her and becomes convinced she doesn't care about him. he has low self-worth and places a lot of his perceived worth on how (he believes) others think of him and is always striving towards that ideal even when that ideal is something he can't reach, or something that hurts him to try to reach. also i want to give him a hug and some milk and a blanket. he deserves it
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Good luck on your devotional blog!!! It’s a great thing that you’re transferring all that love energy you have for him into something silly slash pos like that, I feel like that’s really interesting :} I’m really sorry about the fact it’s going a bit depressive lately, although I can see how that’s better than something like mania or paranoia. But I really hope you feel better soon!! When I’m entering a depressive time I usually try my best to do stuff slowly and gift myself little things whenever I manage to do what I have to do for the day, like a little snack if I managed to clean my room etc…it’s a good way to start :} but I understand how soemtimes you’re just too tired for all. I’ll be here either way!! Following you through it…it’s probably 5 AM there so I hope you’re having a good sleep :}
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thank u thank u !!!! and yesyes .. i wanna use all the excess energy laying around to do Something .. and i think thisll be a good outlet for me !! :D
and thank u .. its been rough but i do much prefer it to paranoia or mania. even if i do feel like im rotting into my bed sometimes ahaha .. and i hope so too !! i would do something like that, but i have like 0 self control so im always like why dont i. have thr treat. Now? instead? LMAOAOAA ..
and tyty !!! it makes me rlly happy tht uve stuck around for so long, it really means a lot :] <3
i slept well for sure :] ive been having lots of weird vivid dreams lately .. but theyre still restful nonetheless !!
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narwhalandchill · 10 months
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i swear no one hates the pale princess and the six pygmies more than anyone that tries to make sense of genshin lore for any extended amount of time
like i am starting to feel at least like 85% confident (among many others) that we might FINALLY have our first fucking semblance of a clue as to what the events depicted in it could even be with the 3rd descender lore reveals bc like. 3rd descender being the light prince just Really clicks with multiple beats in there including but not limited to the specific mention of a "curse" falling the six pygmies from the remnants of the prince like. HUH. when the gnoses made from the 3rd are also described as a curse. and thats genuinely incredibly exciting bc it feels actually plausible.
but. because this book is still the actual worst designed to torture us all. that just also makes everything even more confusing 😭 bc one fairly prevalent thing (that i personally found quite compelling) with pale princess theories was her possible identity as the seelie ancestor who fell in love with a human and led to the downfall of their race. which has always been highkey giving the night mother destroying the moonlight kingdom and cursing the people of the pale princess into an "undead state, lingering at the point between life and death forevermore". like thats Way too on the nose with how the pale princess is literally the light princes lover so. yeah seelie ancestor always a strong contender for that one. but also what the fuck does that mean for the timeline
and dont even get me started with the pygmies like. who the fuck are the pygmies it makes me want to morb. obviously a ton of theories have tried to fit the archons as the pygmies but its always been a little ehhhhhh at least when attempting to fit our current archons as a whole (+ the whole. 6 pygmies 7 archons things). but the pygmies = cursed from the princes remains part is also like. very gnosis aligned after the fontaine AQ reveals so go figure. i hate this shit 😭
i also saw a speculation on the pygmies as the sovereigns given its likely scyllas already kicked the bucket at the point the 3rd descender happened (since he was already dead when the shade of life was creating egeria) so 7 lizards turning into 6 remaining pygmies in the story has no numerical dissonance. but that keeps raising questions still bc of how gnosis coded the princes death and the ensuing curse feels!! i hate this book have i mentioned that already. but i do find it a compelling argument solely on account of how much better the sovereigns would fit the timeline of sth that happened thousands of years ago Especially if the fall of the seelie queen is involved in any form. also read a good point that some of the pygmy descriptions could arguably fit the 2 of the ancient sovereigns slash likely candidates better than any archon, specifically apep for the pygmy only caring for its own garden and azhdaha for the blind one.
but then its like. if the betrayal of the 3rd was by the defeated and remaining sovereigns it kinda makes the gnosis thing another question mark. like we still lack so much info on the connections and the timeline between the stolen thrones of authority, the war of vengeance and ensuing weakening of the POs "functions" leading to the establishment of the vision system and the archon war and where the gnoses fall in all of this. hhhhhhhhhh
so like whether the six pygmies are some assortment of archons or the sovereigns or some other group altogether we are still so utterly clueless its terrible 😭
i think the only real theory that i think ppl should just let die is tsaritsa as the pale princess tho like. lmao aintnoway hoyo will ever make a playable character who has a very good chance of being the obligatory bronya expy be someone with a canon male love interest are you hearing yourselves 💀 its not even that i think itd be like shit writing or sth im just purely asking ppl to be realistic with the unfortunate self imposed limitations of a gacha game developer. though the tsaritsa somehow having a connection to the pale princess and the events of the story (assuming its the 3rd descender debacle) would be very fascinating.
also someone noted that the exiled pygmy taking the princes body to a "tree hollow" may not be literal at all and instead imply the 3rd after being killed and turned into the gnoses being integrated into the irminsul and all ensuing samsara rebirth cycles which.... interesting.
anyway. i hate pale princess and the six pygmies!!!!!
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codecicle · 10 months
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you’re genuinely so funny and i hope you’re having a good day
oh my fucking god thank you??? dude this genuinely means so much to me I wanna print this out and frame it on my wall I'm having an amazing day now whaddahell
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oneinathousand · 2 years
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I read the Treasure Island book to see how accurate the 1988 animated version is to it, and to my surprise, despite the slapstick and exaggeration going on for the characters, it gets quite a few details right that you wouldn’t expect from something like this. At the same time, it’s also interesting to see how the characters in particular were interpreted in their own unique way.
The cartoon is practically a case study for how adaptations can use the same material as the original, but by changing the context is becomes totally different. So, here’s my scattered observations below in no order:
I didn’t expect how much dialogue for Dr. Livesey comes straight from the book or at least is interpreted very similarly, including his famous “the words ‘rum’ and ‘death’ mean the same to you”, so the anti-alcohol message of the movie was not pulled out of the filmmakers’ asses. And in general, while book Livesey is a lot more stoic than the cartoon, he’s still very cheeky when dealing with sick or injured patients, it’s just that cartoon Livesey combines the sarcasm with constant giggling. Book Livesey also straight-up slashes a dude across the face with a sword!
Poor Jim Hawkins really went through the wringer in the book that the movie didn’t touch on since it would be a damper on the slapstick and exercising message they have going on for him. His dad dies of an illness right around the same time as Billy Bones’ death, his mom is greedy, he got stabbed through the shoulder and pinned to the mast by Israel Hands during their confrontation and at the same time Jim had to kill him in self-defense, Silver cruelly tells him after he gets ambushed by the pirates that Dr. Livesey and the rest of the gang hate him for running away from the fort which Jim believes enough for him to weep the next time he sees Livesey and think he deserves to die, and the very last lines of the book are Jim saying that he has nightmares over the whole ordeal.
Captain Smollett is probably the most different to his book counterpart for one key reason besides his more arrogant and bumbling personality: cartoon Smollett brushes off all of the punishment he receives like it’s nothing, but in the book, he’s wounded during the stockade battle and gets shunted off to the side for the rest of the story.
I used to wonder why Squire Trelawney had no more dialogue once the characters got on the island, but really, he didn’t have much to do in the book after the stockade battle, either, except to babysit Smollett while he recovers from his injury, though before that he was said to be the best shot of the whole group. Hilariously, it’s said in the book that both Trelawney and Smollett are over six feet tall, while Livesey, who was the POV character for the chapter where it’s said, is definitely shorter than both of them, but of course, this was switched around for the cartoon.
Long John Silver is definitely the best example of having many of the same lines as the book, but by a simple change in vocal delivery, it shifts your view of the character. Book Silver is boisterous, gregarious when he chooses to be, and able to lose his temper. Animated Silver is always calm, always collected, and only slips up when he’s releasing a chuckle while threatening violence. This guy is as cold as the depths of the seven seas, and doesn’t seem to have any genuine affection for Jim. You would expect that for this more comedic adaptation, the more affable aspects of the book version’s personality would have been put to the forefront, but instead they chose to emphasize his ruthless, pragmatic side to show that there was still a threat, and I commend the animators for that.
Tangent about Book-Silver: I was aware before reading that while he’s explicitly unmarried in the cartoon, he did originally have a wife who is mentioned but never shown. What I didn’t know was that his wife is actually a black woman (no I haven’t seen the show Black Sails), and Silver tells the pirates at one point that after he gets the treasure, he plans to meet back up with her and retire in the Caribbean, which is what Jim believes he did at the very end after he escapes capture with some of the treasure. That detail really puts Silver’s motivations in the book under a whole new light. Being a disabled man in an interracial marriage in the 18th century would be even more difficult than it would be now, maybe he did try to go straight for a few years until he felt like he had to get the treasure and run, no matter what, but I guess his true character is left up to the readers’ interpretation. We don’t really know anything about the wife, but considering Silver left her to take care of business while he was out at sea, she must be pretty tough herself. Can you imagine what she would be like in the cartoon?
The one line from the cartoon I thought would be in the book, Silver saying “In one hour, those of you who are still alive will envy the dead” is technically original. What Silver says in the book basically means the same thing, it just takes him a lot longer to say it rather than one line. I consider the animated one an improvement, as it’s far more intimidating in how straight-to-the-point it is.
Pew is probably the closest to the book in terms of personality, appearance, and actions, the comedic Bobby song notwithstanding, though in the book he dies from getting trampled by horses. Billy Bones is also fairly close, just with a nasty cold and not being quite so rude when he’s drunk.
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undeadorion · 1 year
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I'm introducing a new policy: if you can't be bothered to use clear communication on a site with no character limit, especially when reblogging a stranger's artwork, I'm just blocking you. Plain and simple.
Tone indicators (the kind that are a slash and an abbreviation like /hj, /gen, /s, etc) are not the clarity you think they are, especially for those who you claim they're for. If you need to add context for clarity either use a parenthetical, with a full fucking word, or rephrase your statement so you don't need one in the first place.
Accessibility means effort on the part of the person creating the thing. If it means people accessing (ie reading/interpreting) that thing needs a reference sheet or to memorize a list of coded text for what things can mean, it's not accessible.
Also, I'm sick of the initial gut punch of seeing "pos" in the tags of people reblogging my stuff, and needing to step back to realize they meant "positive" and not "piece of shit."
But I know people will get mad about this because my neurodivergence is ugly and difficult to define with no formal diagnosis. So don't take my word for it, here's basically the same reasoning and way more from an autistic person:
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Try harder. Stop using abbreviations if your intent is clarity and accessibility.
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iknaenmal · 2 years
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For the ask game. say something nice about kismesisstude (i think he's pretty cool :D
OH OFC @kismesisstude <tumblr wont tell you i tagged you but. But still
Dawn first of all. Youre one of the blogs that ive been following the longest i believe. So. Your art is SO COOL like. Oughhghgh its like a p simple artstyle but not too simple you know????? I mean this in the most slash pos way possible. ALSO your lineless art also is. Wouagh chefs kiss. I love how you draw faces its like. SO distinctive
But ALSO youre very cool and nice as a person!! I kinda suck at giving compliments about ones personality but. Yeah
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tiderideraa · 2 years
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if  i  removed  the  disney  filter  then  d2  and  d3  would  look  like
random  d2  divergences / hcs :
harry  knocked  ben  out,  gil  carried  ben  back  to  the  lost  revenge  while  harry  delivered  the  message  to  c3  for  mal  to  meet  uma  at  the  chip  shop
he  spent  the  rest  of  uma’s  night  shift  on  the  lost  revenge  tormenting  guarding  ben
the  whole  swords  and  shields  team  went  to  the  isle  to  save  ben
why?  because  the  c4  needed  the  numbers,  and  you  can’t  tell  me  that  the  s&s  team  weren’t  incredibly  close  to  ben,  and  because  the  s&s  team  were  as  desperate  as  lonnie  to  prove  their  worth  in  a  real  fight
also  lonnie  fighting  alongside  the  whole  team  in  a  real  fight  would  have  had  the  whole  team  back  her  as  captain  and  respect  her  the  same  way  that  mulan  did  with  yao,  ling,  and  chien  po,  which  is  a  cool  parallel  to  make
in  the  fight  during  it’s  going  down,  there  are  deaths  on  both  sides,  the  c4  and  the  sea3  do  not  escape  the  fight  unscathed
lonnie  and  uma  have  the  highest  body  counts  by  the  end  of  the  fight  with  2 - 2,  i  can  see  harry  skewering  one  of  the  s&s  members  before  the  auradon  side  escapes  the  docks  and  one  s&s  member  and  two  pirates  later  succumbs  to  their  wounds  after  the  fight
( which  means  the  3  doa  s&s  members  are  left  behind  on  the  isle,  their  bodies  are  not  recovered  and  the  wounded  s&s  member  dies  in  the  limo  before  they  go  through  the  barrier )
( whereas  the  2  wounded  pirates  die  during  the  cotillion  riots  or  to  infection  and  lack  of  medical  supplies )
main  reason  for  the  s&s  team  losing  more  members  than  the  pirates  in  the  initial  battle  is  that  the  pirates  have  been  fighting  real  life  or  death  battles  their  whole  lives,  they’re  going  to  be  more  brutal,  more  merciless,  and  there  will  be  no  hesitation  when  it  comes  to  making  a  killing  blow
personally,  i  like  the  concept  of  jay  and  carlos  being  responsible  for  the  2  dead  pirates  but  it  could  easily  have  been  mal  or  one  of  the  other  s&s  members.  i  can’t  see  evie  being  a  killer  so  while  she  won  her  fight  with  jonas,  i  don’t  think  she  would  have  killed him  or  anyone  else,  the  same  goes  for  ben.  he  wants  to  build  bridges,  compromise,  he  wants  there  to  be  a  future  between  uma  and  her  pirates,  and  auradon  and  i  think  he  would  believe  that  it  wouldn’t  be  impossible  if  he  killed  one  of  uma’s  pirates
uma  used  her  own  magic  to  spell  ben,  not  mal’s  book
random  d3  divergences / hc :
harry  and  the  lost  revenge  timed  how  long  the  barrier  remained  open  after  someone  used  the  auradon  remote
stealing  the  c4′s  bikes  was  planned  so  that  the  c4  would  be  forced  to  walk,  therefore  leaving  the  barrier  open  long  enough  for  harry  and  gil  to  get  through
the  initial  plan  was  to  escape  the  isle,  find  uma,  find  a  way  to  bring  the  barrier  down  but  obviously,  uma  found  them  first
harry  and  jay  actually  fought  each  other  in  the  gardens.  it  was  very  violent.
the  knight  armor  battle  was  extremely  brutal.  harry  lost  his  left  hand  during  the  fight  and  i  would  think  that  the  others  were  also  grievously  wounded  before  mal  and  uma  are  able  to  utilize  their  combined  magic  to  crush  the  armored  knights
uma  and  mal  then  heal  their  respective  friends / team  using  their  magic,  so  harry  doesn’t  lose  his  hand  permanently,  it’s  just  for  the  parallels,  the  vibes,  the  throw  away  reference  to  his  dad
harry  and  gil  agree  to  help  find  ben  only  because  uma  asks  them  to.  harry  hopes  to  have  ben  owe  him  a  favor  for  it.
harry  gets  very  annoyed  and  jealous  when  gil  and  jay  appear  to  bond / become  friendly  with  one  another
when  they  encounter  beast!ben,  jay  get’s  badly  slashed  when  he  saves  harry.  gil,  harry,  and  carlos  come  together  to  protect  jay,  who  is  too  wounded  to  move,  from  a  cursed  ben
carlos  is  the  only  one  who  manages  to  get  through  to  ben  long  enough  for  jane  to  appear  with  the  enchanted  lake  water,  weakening  the  curse  enough  for  ben  to  retain  his  mind  and  awareness  but  it  isn’t  enough  to  turn  him  back  into  a  human
with  jane’s  help  they’re  able  to  slightly  heal  jay’s  wounds  but  not  enough  for  him  to  move  on  his  own.  harry  and  gil  build  a  stretcher,  ben  carries  it,  and  they  make  their  way  back  to  evie’s  start  up  castle.  harry  thanks  jay  for  saving  him.
when  they  reach  the  castle,  mal  and  uma  are  able  to  heal  jay  completely.  they  all  go  to  flora,  fauna,  and  merryweather’s  cottage  to  find  audrey.  instead  they  find  chad.
mal  is  forced  to  come  clean  about  closing  the  barrier  forever  when  uma  brings  up  her  promise  to  free  all  the  vks
celia  still  takes  the  ember  and  tarnishes  it  with  water.  uma  and  harry  leave  for  the  isle,  intent  at  finding  a  way  to  lower  it  and  help  the  pirates  and  vks  escape
when  mal  finds  them  to  get  help,  they  reject  her  but  celia’s  capture  forces  uma  to  help  mal  while  harry  climbs  the  tower  to  get  celia  out  of  danger
once  the  scepter  is  destroyed  and  audrey  is  cursed  to  sleep,  uma,  harry,  and  celia  return  to  audrey’s  dorm  with  the  others
uma,  harry,  gil,  and  celia  return  to  the  isle.  harry  orders  the  twins  to  stay  in  auradon  with  dizzy  ( and  to  prank  the  c4  as  often  as  they  can )
2  months  go  past  before  mal  and  ben  bring  the  barrier  down,  in  that  time,  uma  was  voted  in  as  captain  once  again  and  her  and  the  lost  revenge  crew  conquered  the  entire  east  coast  of  the  isle  and  uma  has  been  hailed  the  pirate  king
in  general,  the  isle  is  split  into  districts  or  territories  which  are  led  and  governed  by  faction  and  gang  leaders.  these  leaders  come  together  to  establish  a  general  law  and  order  and  uma  becomes  the  reigning  leader  over  them  all
on  the  isle,  uma  is  recognized  as  king  ( non gendered specific ),  in  auradon  she’s  recognized  as  the  isle’s  ambassador and  senior  advisor
mal  is  not  the  queen  of  the  isle  come  on  now
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