#itwt

[mistress-light]

That's peculiar. Something here is interfering with my powers.

[cruelfeline]

Frey: Giant trees... weird roots... you don't know anything about this stuff, do you?

Cuff: Do you think I'd tell you if I did?

Frey: So you don't. Okay, gotcha. Probably above your paygrade, anyway.

Cuff: Above my-! I am the destroyer of Athia, bane of the Tantas. Nothing is above my paygrade, thank you very much. I have far more important things to worry about than... shrubbery, that's all.

Narrator: It was - indeed - above his paygrade.

...

...it's me. I'm the narrator.

[phoenixiancrystallist]

What if Frey is Thalia reincarnated and that's why Frey was able to hitchhike in her body and experience her emotions?

[phoenixiancrystallist]

That "ooh, can I turn into one of those?" he does sniped me so hard I had to pause the game so I could finish cry-laughing, and sometimes it sneaks out of my psyche to take me out at the knees at random inopportune moments.

He's such a goober, I love him so much XD

Cuff is so stupid god bless <3

[wolflurker]

Woops, I spent a ridiculously long time on this... :x

[poppinlovemp4]

they kicked a boyz out⁉️

[mistress-light]

Forspoken • Tanta Cinta

Frey was somewhat surprised to learn that her mother, despite her title, was once a warrior of some skill, and far from shy about showing it.

[phoenixiancrystallist]

Got these from the DLC. For some reason I don't have her main game entry, give me a couple minutes and I'll get that for you too :)

psssst. Forspoken friends. can one of you send me a screenshot of Thalia's archive entry?

[phoenixiancrystallist]

Do you ever have fanfic epiphanies at work? Me neither. Have a screenshot :)

:)

[louisisalarrie]

super random q but do you think louis is ever coming back to asia? 😭 lol honestly his team fucked up big time and a lot of the fans are (rightfully) pissed off nfndidks but i think it also had a lot to do with the countries they chose?

i remember the initial announcement was him going to countries he didnt visit during Itwt, which is nice and all i guess but i'm not sure they thought that through... clearly there weren't enough fans in those countries fo then after cancelling those he announce ONE SINGULAR show in jakarta... which, logically, makes sense since it's one of his top cities on spotify. and yet the turnout was terrible skndjdsk

i'm sure a lot of it had to do with fans still holding a grudge (honestly same) and being scared of cancellation again, but i was thinking maybe he should've chosen a different city? manila for instance had to have their Itwt show upsized from a 2k capacity venue to a 12k one if i'm not mistaken?

Hey lovely anon, and welcome to the show! (Late night VIP access for you - I’m only awake because god some of these bands take fucking forever to load out, so apologies if this is a bit scrambled!)

Yeaaaahhhh it’s definitely part of his team’s fault, but could also likely be the promoter’s. I think it was Live Nation for this one. At LN AUNZ they really try everything they can to not cancel shows, and just downsize (usually discreetly only to ticket holders, but sometimes posted on socials), and it comes down to ticket sales, but also supplier issues is a major one too.

I’m honestly not too across Asia’s music scene at the moment, it’s just not a territory I’m deep in, but maybe there were other major acts touring at the same time and therefore caused supplier issues too? Usually ticket sales are the main factor but you’ve got everything from trucking, backline, crew, sound, lights, accomodation, staging, tour manager fees, staffing, flights, venue rental, catering, LED etc. vs the guaranteed fee, so there’s a lot more to consider.

Promoters, like any business, obviously wanna lose as little money as possible, and so they do look at all avenues before having to propose a cancellation to the team because it makes them look bad. They obviously want Louis to choose them next time because they make money, so they don’t just cop out if they have low ticket sales, they try to make it work but sometimes it just… doesn’t.

I’m not sure what kind of deal it was - happy to go into different types of deals sometime with y’all if you’re interested - but depending on budgets and the type of deal, it could’ve just been a lot of artist costs and it would’ve costed louis more money to go there than the payoff would’ve been.

I understand it’s frustrating, 100%, AUNZ, particularly NZ, don’t get half the bands the rest of the world get, because it’s expensive and it’s a gamble. Unless the promoter is willing to put no caps in the tour offer and just gamble with fees because they’re sure of ticket sales and budgets, well, they won’t. And it is a gamble for louis to go to countries he’s not been to before while he’s still establishing a bigger turnout there.

He’s the kind of guy that wants to tour all over the world and see everyone no matter the size of the venue, and it’s ridiculous because with his net worth he can afford to lose some money lol, but his manager and team just… don’t get paid that way. They don’t do their job so they don’t get commission. Idk what kind of contract they have with him, but I doubt he’s gonna give them a free handout if he can’t even make enough money to cover half that shit mentioned above through ticket sales. It’s just not how a business runs. It’s not how management works.

I really hope yourself and the folks up there don’t hold a grudge against him, because it’s so often out of the artist’s control (again, sounds stupid but it is the way this works), and I’ve seen artists offer to pay for a show with like 6% ticket sales because they just wanna make that 6% happy. But it’s not feasible and their management think it’s a waste of time if it’s not successful. I disagree, but, that’s the way the cookie crumbles with the big dogs. And I’m sure he’d love to tour more cities and be with fans everywhere.

With how much of a gamble it is going to cities he’s not been to before, I imagine even with demographic studies, the promoter’s offer would’ve stated for louis to pay for most of the expenses I stated above, so the promoter doesn’t lose money because it’s a risk. The more risky the tour sales are, the more is deemed an artist cost. It’s just… business.

Anyway, ticket sales for all artists are really struggling these days because of this damn economy and “cost of living”. Fans aren’t often buying tickets til the last minute, like you said, for fear of cancellation. Particularly after covid, it’s really hit the music industry hard. Refunds are great, fine, sure, but if you’re spending a chunk of your pay to see an artist and it doesn’t happen, you lose a bit of faith in buying tickets for them/other artists the next time they come to your city.

In Australia, we have a website called Tixel, founded in Melbourne a few years ago. Changed the absolute game. Now folks aren’t buying off Ticketmaster marketplace or official ticketing outlet resales, and are using Tixel instead.

Tixel is a platform where you can sell your ticket to another person with very little fees taken. You can’t list your ticket for over 10% of the price you bought it for, you have to upload/scan your ticket into the system and it verifies its legitimacy, and then you can put it on sale for whatever price you like (with upwards of 10% of og price, or lower if you need to just get rid of it). It’s fantastic, stops scammers because they can’t upsell the ticket by 200% like on ViaGoGo, and all tickets are proved to be legitimate. I’ve waited last minute to a show, to see if I’m free/if it’s going ahead if it’s super far in advance to buy tickets on Tixel, because I know if I buy tickets the day of/a few days before, that there’s like a 1% chance they’ll cancel. Shit happens, sure, but by that time, you’ll know it’s going ahead.

Because of the concerns of buying tickets when they’re released, promoters and management teams can’t guarantee there will be a turnout and whether they will be able to gain a profit/at the very least break even, because it’s just too risky and of course suppliers want money well in advance. But if a band does a show, and it sells out last minute, great, cool, but you can’t bank on that. It’s changed the ticketing game and really fucked with artists, their teams, and promoters, because you can’t rely on the numbers early on.

There have been a few major festivals here that have cancelled, due to “unforeseen circumstances” usually (which is mostly a way to hide the fact it’s ticket sales), and it’s like… a week after tickets go on sale. This happened to a festival I bought tickets to the day of release, and a lot of folks I know were waiting for their next payday or until tickets were on resale closer to the time. It’s such a shame, and hurts a lot of people in the industry financially. It’s not just the big dogs who have a fuck ton of money, it’s the crewing on the ground, the caterers, the venues, suppliers etc. who get hurt the most. It’s devastating down here, at the moment.

You can bank on certain artists selling tickets everywhere, but unfortunately it wasn’t strong enough for Louis.

He couldn’t skip out on Asia all together, no way. He needed to do at least 1 show to cross that territory and fulfil the global deal that he may have with LN (not 100% on if it’s a global deal or co-pro but yeah, either way), because it would’ve looked shit if he didn’t and probably negotiated his touring deal and cost him more money to cancel. Idk, there’s so many moving parts to touring that it’s hard to give you a solid answer, anon, but I’m sure he’ll be back. They’ll focus on Asia to really crack it, I think. We’ll see how competent/how much his team cares, and what promoters are willing to offer to get him back. Deals change throughout the initial offer up until very close to the tour, so, yeah. Hopefully there’s more money from the promoter backing him next time.

It’s shitty, but the money they saved goes towards the next leg of the tour to cover higher artist costs. This can include nicer accomm, better flights, better catering, better LED/Lights/Sound for confirmed shows, depending on the deal. So it’s stretching yourself a bit thinner for more shows that will cost you money, or putting some more money into those shows to make it better. It’s a weird balancing act. And yeah. It’s a multitude of things, not just his popularity.

Anyway, hope this helps a bit! Let me know if any q’s xx <3

[your-hologram]

Just found out that Armand and Daniel are a thing in itwt this is the worst news ever because I'm going to become insufferable I can already feel the obsession taking hold

[phoenixiancrystallist]

You and me both >:3

And it tracks with canon, since Sus got sent back to the past with Frey in the DLC! He couldn't hear the Rheddig Tanta at first, so she either deliberately left him out or didn't know he was there, but either way she would not have sent him with Frey on purpose, I'm sure. What good would it do to show the "abomination" how he was reborn?

not entirely sure how it works but I’ll go ahead and headcanon that Frey and Susurrus are intertwined at the soul now. So what happens to Frey happens to him. So if she dies he goes with her.

[withgirl-sq]

I see you finished the In Tanta We Trust DLC! And thus comes another prompt for the Pregnant Auden AU: Frey, having gone through the events of ITWT, has decided to explain to her wife what happened and why she has to go to Rheddah. All while hiding behind Johedy who is also learning about this whole thing just now.

Sorry for the long wait!

Hope you enjoy if you're still interested-

More generally, please let me know if you're still interested in Freyden content!

I plan to finish the prompts in my inbox but not sure afterward

[mistress-light]

Cinta

The Tanta of Love and ruler of Junoon as she was twenty-five years ago.

[phoenixiancrystallist]

Ventured onto the Forspoken subreddit despite the indigestion that place gives me because of all the hate pretending to be "valid criticism," but it reminded me today is Forspoken's birthday!

So have a bonus photo dump of some of my favorite shots, some of which I haven't posted yet :D

[phoenixiancrystallist]

No lie I am going to play with this so much in my sequel fics, both canon-compliant and self-insert lol

So In Tanta We Trust seems to imply tantas can be consciously made via choosing a human to like, ascend Twilight Sparkle style… anyway does that mean Frey could start tanta-fying other people. Begging Auden not to leave her alone for an eternity bound to a birdbrain. Pushing the girl’s people-pleasing personality to its absolute limit