#iwtv theory

[queer-is-future]

“After five hundred years, I know such tricks. I could frighten all the young ones—the hangers-on and the gawkers—just as surely as the other ancient ones did it, even the most modest, uttering words to evince their telepathy, or vanishing when they chose to leave, or now and then even making the building tremble with their power—an interesting accomplishment even with these walls eighteen inches thick with cypress sills that will never rot.”

The Vampire Armand

Anne Rice

[fanmode-activated]

i was wondering when in the timeline would daniel meet with someone, and i'm thinking the season will start with him having left dubai after the armand reveal last season, probably because he was scared, i do not know. but episode one he would be convinced to go back and finish this, so we will pick up however many months later.

[psychopersonified]

Judging ARMAND ⚖️ …. for fun. 😬

If Lestat is right about the BOND and the CORD that connects them (there is talk of an invisible cord in the 2nd last book but in another context, not sure if they’re changing the lore for the show, but assuming that they they are…), such a traumatic severing of a bond like theirs would have damaged him almost irreparably. One of Claudia’s diary entries in Merrick speaks of opening up “…new passages for Louis into the labyrinthian Hell…” with the destruction of Lestat.

We get a hint of this in “… you share a heart with him… spend and hour alone with him and you’re breathing in sync together…” Is this the physical manifestation of that bond and not just some romantic idea of Lestat’s?

If yes, then you might argue that Louis has already committed suicide that fatal night. His heart following Lestat’s as it slowed, pulling Louis down to death together. Then the sucker punch the moment his orphaned heart could no longer hear the reply of its missing twin. I’d imagine this on top of whatever trauma Claudia’s eventual death wrought would have rendered him emotionally vacant out of self preservation.

-😇 Armand the Benevolent-

Chronically depressed, arguably suicidal - In swoops Armand, taking charge of the situation to protect the younger orphaned vampire from himself. Doesn’t hurt that he loves Louis as well. The penthouse is a convalescent home. An amniotic cocoon of minimal stimuli that keeps the patient calm and doesn’t trigger his PTSD. All his needs are cared for.

But as his powers grow, Louis’ outburst are getting more difficult to control and consequential. The memories that Armand sought to influence, functioning as a weighted blanket keeping Louis’ memories from overwhelming him - are unraveling everyday. He needs help.

The interview is a way to reinforce the alterations/interpretations in a controlled methodical way; interweaving and blending Claudia’s interpretation of events into Louis own to a point where Louis cannot separate them anymore. And if a book does result from it, the altered version becomes the accepted version, the definitive version. A core memory.

- 😈 Armand the Demon-

Or…. Is Armand wanting to solidify an alternate memory for another purpose?

Has there been an awakening? The long dormant bond beginning to push through - triggering truths (memories) that Louis cannot process, tormenting his existence once more? And more importantly, loosening Armand’s hold? If Louis regains his true memories, he’ll realise the hand Armand played in the permanent dissolution of his family.

The book, in the narrative that Armand pushes would be a public statement of divorce to Lestat - presumably in Louis’ own words. Despite the danger, Armand the experienced coven master is likely confident that he can protect Louis from the backlash from others.

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People of the jury, arguments have been made, please weigh in… add your own respectful arguments.

PS: This is all for FUN. Whichever direction the show writers chose, the important thing is that it will be entertaining! 🎭

[thisismycursed3rdblog]

My IWTV season 2 theory (Spoilers)

Ok so in the novel the big reason why at the end of interview Louis was still mad at Lestat is he believes that he was the one who cause Claudia's death, but later he learns that actually was Armand.

So in the show my theory is during the first interview with Daniel in the 90s he was still under this belief that Lestat was the cause but over the next few years he somehow learns the truth it was Armand, who he is in a relationship with. Louis can't get rid of Armand alone, he already needed help with Lestat and Armand is way stronger. So he calls up Daniel to get him to re-do the interview and get it made in to a book so Lestat will be able to find him to help him get away from Armand who he now knows is the reason for Claudia's fate.

If they keep Armand to the book personality wise he's way more toxic and possessive then Lestat (which is saying a lot!). So once he has Louis he won't give him up ever. The series shows that Louis could break up with Lestat and get somewhat away from him but with Armand he wouldn't be able to do that at all.

He needs Lestat to gain any freedom so he's doing the interview to do that to get Lestat to come to him

[gildatheplant]

Theory about Thomas Anderson:

OK, so I’ve done a rewatch of episodes 4-6, and watched episodes 1-3 and 7 once (though I plan to rewatch all of them again of course), but I haven’t heard much talk about this topic so I’m curious about what others think.

I remember when this episode came out, people were wondering what the significance of Lestat marking Anderson’s face with an X was. I assumed it was because he was marking him for a future kill, and that it symbolized Lestat having a LOT of hate for him.

By episode 7, it’s clear that Thomas Anderson is on to Louis and Lestat. He’s known them for two decades, he’s noticed they haven’t aged, he still throws insults and slights at them. When Claudia ultimately uses Anderson to trick Lestat, she accuses her maker of always giving into petty slights (referring back to when Anderson laughed at the idea of Lestat being a king). What even Claudia doesn’t seem to realize is that the series has built up Lestat’s hatred of the man far more deeply than simple petty slights. It’s a hatred some 20 years in the making.

When we first see Lestat and Thomas Anderson together, it’s at a poker game in episode 1. Louis arrives to find them both already there. Throughout the game, Anderson “compliments” Louis but in terms that are condescending and racist. Meanwhile, Lestat uses his telepathy to speak to Louis about how horribly the other men are treating him, about how he deserves better.  Now of course, as someone who already cares for Louis, hearing Anderson mistreat Louis is already enough to make Lestat hate him. However, I think there’s more to it.

Lestat isn’t in this still, but look at Anderson’s face. That’s him looking at Louis. Now return to that scene in episode 7, where Anderson mocks Lestat for wanting to be Mardi Gras Raj (king). Then remember that during that same scene, Anderson reveals that he’s kept a photo of himself, Louis and Lestat for 20 years...

My theory? Thomas Anderson was in love with Louis, but was too racist, too homophobic and too scared to accept it. At the same time, he absolutely hated Lestat because Lestat didn’t give a damn about the racist and homophobic society around him- he pursued and loved Louis fearlessly. Meanwhile, Lestat’s mind-reading abilities meant that he knew how Anderson felt about Louis, probably even saw a few unpleasant fantasies in Anderson’s mind. Unfortunately, Thomas Anderson is a powerful man in the human world, so Lestat is forced to tolerate his BS for years...leaving his hatred to continue to grow and fester. At the same time, Anderson used his political and financial power to try to control Louis and keep him under his thumb for as long as he could.

It all comes to a head in the finale, when Lestat lunges at Anderson and tears him apart. Claudia was banking on Lestat’s hatred of Anderson blinding him to the fact that she’d poisoned the man, but even she didn’t realize how deep that hatred went. Thomas Anderson has been on Lestat’s Shit List for decades, and he finally, finally gets to kill him....but in doing so he falls right into Claudia’s trap and it leads to his undoing.

[vampyrles]

So we already know Louis and Lestat are endgame. We know they reconcile and makeup and get back together. It’s literally book canon.

Cracked out theory but what if this interview now is actually after they’ve done all the making up and are genuinely together again. That’s why Louis almost always talks about Lestat in a romantic light. I really hope that is the case, and Louis is now wanting to share the better story, the one that shows how they came to be together and not just some fucked up right after breakup telling of it.

If that’s the case then I really hope they begin making amends in the storytelling and the future seasons are both their retellings of their pasts and how they overcame it and came to be together again. That’s why Louis has Lestats card, it’s not the same one lestat gave him years ago, it’s a brand new one because lestat still has those cards made the same way he always has.

This better be what Daniel starts finding out in episode 6. If I’m wrong I’ll be disappointed because it makes no sense that they wouldn’t be together by now in this timeline.

[beautyindiversity]

Louis: She'll be back

Lestat: No she won't

Lestat was jealous of Louis' love for Claudia. But he was ALSO jealous that Claudia actually came back FOR LOUIS.

[zombie-bait]

(Book spoilers) Ok considering uhhh everything from ep 5, how do we get here with Loustat? Random theory but: what if this is when Claudia and Louis have already planned to cook Lestat so they have to play nice with him to lower his suspicions. Louis starts agreeing to go to events with him again. They dance, go out on the town and Louis starts to remember that a part of him really might love Lestat, despite everything he’s done, just as their plan comes to fruition.

[sanctaignorantia]

Analysis, theories, spoilers and a bit of hate (maybe).

Sorry for the long text, I really can't control myself and if you start to hate me after it, well… I'm not sorry, but it's my opinion so I want to make it clear that, because it's my opinion, it's only up to me and if you agree, ok. But if you don't, just ignore it.

Let's go!

I was thinking recently about the way the series used Rashid who was an extremely small character in the book 'Blood and Gold' and then put him there as a name that Armand hides behind and then now, in the second season, we'll really get to know him. But for those who don't know, Rashid is one of Eudoxia's servants who appears in the book 'Blood and Gold' and just like Eudoxia he is extremely young ( circa 14-15 years old). Eudoxia was turned at the same age and then decided to create vampires just like her, she had them turn others because she always wanted to know what was going on in their minds. Marius ends up destroying her. Knowing this, I'm trying to conclude that perhaps the series won't use Eudoxia in the same way as the book did and therefore this part of Marius' story might not exist, or perhaps she'll arrive at a different age, in different circumstances (but I wish it didn't exist because that would automatically eliminate Zenobia and leave Avicus and Mael to live happily :D).

In short, Rashid was adapted differently, but the same. He doesn't have the same age and isn't connected to the same characters (as far as we know), but he continues to serve (this time for Armand).

Which makes me think of other possibilities.

When we think of adaptation, we automatically want the new media to be an exact copy of the original, but that doesn't always work. The story of the books "works" (or should work hahahaha) in the books and bringing it 100% faithfully to the series could be exhausting, especially when we're talking about a universe full of characters (with the vast majority of them being basically useless).

I keep coming back to this thought because I basically prefer the way the story is being told in the series to the way it is told in the books. I've read them all (except the crossover, no thanks) and now I keep creating these scenarios in my head, but let's get directly to the point.

For those of you who have read the 'Prince Lestat' trilogy, you know that the author simply decided to reboot the universe (as if this wasn't already done naturally with the inconsistencies and divergences in the books). And one of the things that made me very angry was what happened to Memnoch…

He first arrives as a demon or demonic creature who seduces Lestat and takes him on an intense and crazy journey through space and time, revealing a LOT of truth about a lot of things and for those who liked the spiritual vibe of the books, I think the book is a real treat, because it adds very much to the mythology of the universe in that respect. And we even find out a bit more about Amel. But then, when the book ends, we simply discover that Memnoch, just like any other malicious creature, has perfectly fooled Lestat (because our rockstar is very dumb). In conclusion, the book becomes a pit of useless information because you can't determine whether everything that has been revealed and contacted is really true…

Time passes and it becomes more and more something that is forgotten, until the author brings it back in the final trilogy, putting it into the mouths of the Replimoids (creatures and characters that nobody asked for) who end up saying, but without being very sure, because nobody in this universe is sure of anything, that perhaps Memnoch was Maxym, a Replimoid from the "Amel Era" in Atalantaya!

And don't worry, because the narrative about it gets so exhausting and big that you can't fix it in your mind, here's the quote:

As the author likes to do, you finish the trilogy and Memnoch has been forgotten again. This Replimoid shit to turn Amel into an innocent, lost and misunderstood child becomes so great that fuck the devil spirit.

Which, returning to the question of adaptation, makes me wonder what they could bring to the series. They bought all the books, right? That included the fucking Replimoid thing, I'm so sorry…

But then… The Replimoids have been on Earth for 12 thousand years… Much longer than any vampire soul, they are immortal, do not age and reproduce in an extremely uncontrolled way… If you have read the final books you know that a Replimoid is a great opponent for a vampire and they are so poorly used in the books, hmm… If we have Maxym who were one of them and became so spiteful and vengeful to the point of doing what he does to Lestat under the name Memnoch, because doesn't it say in the adaptation that they will come (finally and gloriously) as a true opponent against the vampires?

"Oh my god… But Amel was a Replimoid too!" - Wrong!

He's a mutated human, fuck that Replimoid thing with Amel. He has a human body, a human soul and he suffered on earth and in space (at the hands of other creatures) to have the end he did and become what he became (Oh poor thing, let's feed him - fuck him!) The author (IN MY OPINION, WHICH IS WORTH NOTHING, YOU KNOW) doesn't know how to develop villains or creatures that should serve as opponents for vampires, I don't think this is very well constructed in the universe and it makes me think that maybe I don't have patience to watch Akasha be adapted because she is a mediocre villain. Good luck to Rolin and the writers…

But back to Maxym and the Replimoid business… If they've been on Earth for more than 12 years and are immortal, nothing stops them from walking freely under any identity, after all, vampires do that too… Hmmm~ When I read Memnoch I thought: he's very smart, although he doesn't need much to fool Lestat, but it made me seem like a lot of Les's journey had been paved by Memnoch, that a lot of decisions Lestat made were under Memenoch's influence, so look how much power Memenoch has it!

We later discover that Amel also has a certain power of influence because he is what he is, that spirit at the center of the great web, the great brain that drives the vampires' existence.

And here I make a parenthesis because the introduction of this new race serves no purpose, you spend a long chapter reading Kapetria say about them and in the end no useful answer is answered:

How did Amel become such a spiteful spirit?

Because, when, how does he start to feed on blood if previously as a human he didn't need it?

Was it some spiritual influence that transformed him into this terrible being?

WHY IS SUDDENLY EVERYONE BEING GOOD WITH HIM??????? The guy killed several vampires indiscriminately, he was a huge threat and he convinces Rhosh to do what he does and he gets away with it???? Geez…

And if we have Maxym as a Replimoid walking on earth for 12,000 years being as bad as I want him to be, who's to say that he hasn't already crossed the path of another vampire, or that he's going to do so soon? And why do I say that? Because we have Filip playing this Maxim in the second season.

It's written differently, I know, but I don't think a change like that would bring disgrace to such a character, let's be honest…

-> Filip Finkelstejn as Maxim

And this has an almost 100% chance of being totally different when it comes out, I understand that, but if they put Fareed early in season 1, what's stopping them from inserting the Replimoids as well? What's to stop them from summarizing characters and saving space and time like they did with Rashid and still maintaining their purpose? And WHAT IF Maxym will be there to try and pave the way for Louis because the easiest way to get to Lestat is and always will be through Louis?

I'll let you guys think about it…

[canonicallysoulmates]

I swear if s2 (or during any season) has at some point Lestat pulling a Ricky Ricardo and walking into Louis place all "Louis! I'm home!" the sound I'm going to make will not be human

[olipop-pop]

A Theory of Daniel and Armand

I know that people wonder if Daniel and Armand will get together. I myself will keep my opinion on that, but my twin and I were talking about the relationship aspect and I brought up a question; what if Daniel and Armand already dated? It would make sense on why Armand doesn't seem to like Daniel so much. Daniel isn't able to remember much of his past due to drug use. But Armand saying he saved him once, why did he save him from possibly Louis? I feel they had a relationship and Daniel chose to end it. Ending up marrying his wife, having children, and going on with his career. Armand went back to Louis and kept that relationship close for some reason. Showing his coldness and disdain for Daniel when Louis chooses to have an interview with him again in the future. You can see it in his mannerism and words to Daniel. Like someone who got their heart broke. Just a theory on why I think they already were together. Everyone thinks it will come. But I think it already happened. Just a theory.

[psychopersonified]

Paris Theatre des Vampires

Just a thought about the Paris theatre. Lestat never relinquishes the title to it does he? The producers hinted that our puppies get to experience coven life for a bit. I wonder if they’ll put Louis’ business acumen and Claudia’s writing skills to work there.

Why else would Armand have the playbills? I don’t see him being the sentimentalist, but I can see Claudia documenting their time there, an extension of her diaries. I wonder too, if they know the history of the theatre upfront? Or if it’s something they discover after a while?

Can you imagine them working in Lestat and Nicki’s old dressing room/now Armand’s office? Going through boxes of old papers and trinkets. What if there’s still letters that Lestat wrote to Eleni or Nicki in those boxes. The familiar handwriting!

I can also see Louis coming across legal documents when he’s dealing with lawyers on behalf of the theatre. Or even Claudia researching the history of the place and coming across newspaper articles, gossip society publications etc. Maybe reviews of performances describing a handsome blonde actor that’s the talk of society; or a talented violinist performing a piece that she subsequently finds the music sheets to. She then tries playing it, only to find it sounds hauntingly familiar- like the tune from the music box her maker had. Louis overhears the melody and is triggered, maybe a panic attack, causing Armand to suspect and enquire what secrets they are keeping? Maybe others in the coven notice the outburst too - portending the end of their stint with coven life.

PS: Can someone who reads French translate the playbills? Google tells me it’s “Horror in Baby’s room” and ”Workshop of the smooth skin” ?? Is there context to this aside from Google’s direct translation?

[saintarmand]

iwtv is insanity inducing bc every time you google some reference in it you find out theyre doing some 4d chess with the symbolism… like okay playing roosevelt's speech about the us joining ww2 in the background as claudia tells louis shes gonna kill lestat is pretty straightforward, and of course the chess game theyre playing foreshadows how she beats him in the next episode but doesn't "finish the game" ie burn him. and bc claudia later compares lestat to the nazis/hitler, that obviously makes lestat germany and thus claudia is poland and louis is the us/roosevelt in the speech we hear: "I had hoped against hope that some miracle would prevent a devastating war in Europe and bring to an end the invasion of Poland by Germany" etc. BUT THEN you get nerdy and google some of the chess terms lestat uses like the dutch defense and stonewalling which is pretty interesting and then you vaguely remember one of the writers said the scene was based on some famous chess game, and you realize it must be glücksberg vs miguel najdorf which turns out to be literally called the POLISH IMMORTAL. najdorf was polish and glücksberg is some unknown but based on the name likely german. this was najdorf's first famous game, at the beginning of his career when he was only like 19 or something although we dont know the exact details of the game (and ofc you watch a few videos on the polish immortal and they all heavily criticize glücksberg's moves which makes lestat's arrogance even funnier) and ALSO, in 1939 (literally at the same time as the chess scene takes place) najdorf was participating in a chess tournament in buenos aires and since he was not only polish but also jewish, he stayed there rather than return home. his whole family was killed in the holocaust but he lived a long life in argentina. why is this relevant? because BUENOS AIRES which btw lestat also calls "la reina del plata" so you google that and find the 1930 song by carlos gardel and the lyrics are literally— anyway so buenos aires is where lestat planned for them to move to in ep7. perhaps if they had indeed gone to argentina instead of europe… well… perhaps… perhaps…

[queenoftheimps]

Personally obsessing over the fact that Armand going "LESTAT, LESTAT, LESTAT D:<" seems to be taking place in the same scene as Louis attacking Young!Daniel , judging by the scenery

[vampyrles]

How much you all wanna bet they don’t show Lestat at all after the swamp dumping/fire death scene. Like not then and not in present day either. I’m so hyped for this episode but I also wish time would go slower

[beautyindiversity]

I have the STRONGEST feeling that neither Louis nor Daniel had ever said "You feel me?" before they spoke to each other at that bar.