#jersey portrait

[realcatalina]

Catherine Parr's depictions Part 3: Jersey portraits's new dating is wrong

How on earth did they come with 1547/8 date? I found myself asking. Just looking at it, I don't get it. The hair is down. In late 1540s, it should be way up! And the shape of headwear is simply too round for squished shape in late 1540s!

But I thought, ok, maybe the dendrology came back with with 1546 or some such late date, which would justify the late estimate.

No, it came back with 1542!...Read further if you wish to know more:

(1542...According to Sotheby's webpage

Dendrology says when tree was cut, it'd be likely used few years later to create the painting. At least with baltic oaks that is the case, they don't require much seasoning...Typically dendrology gives you a range of dating, not specific year, but rarely it does...

Do you know how they came up with 1547/8?

-Because she wears black dress! Therefore it MUST BE a widow!!!

For those of you unaware...Black in Tudor times was not used exclusively for mourning! It was popular colour among rich and powerful-nobility and royalty. In fact big portion(if not majority) of portraits from 1540-1560, show either black clothes or black cloak!

Furthermore the artist, master John provenly worked for royalty in 1544-Mary's portrait:

and what is the difference here? ...Almost none:

Ok, the angle of the head and different bilements? (which can be different even on very same day! Not year, day...)

And yes... the transitional vs new stays-but that's all!

And We'd expect there to be transitional period in between the two styles, when they coexiste!...Around 1543/4 that was the case!

Hence regarding the dating, I'd say the prudent dating, based upon dendrology would be c.1545-1548.

(1544 seems as bit too early for us to get 1542 dendrology. Sotheby's webpage says 1542, not c.1542, but I cannot exclude this is how it is meant... and if it's c.1542..., then I'd say as early as 1544 would be possible...)

But based upon my research into portraits in 1540-1560, I'd be inclined to say c.1544/1545.

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Also, even if you went with assumption it is Parr as King's widow...how about you read up upon how long she mourn the King?!

If it was her as widow...then you'd have to date it as 1547, namely between January 1547(Henry VIII's death) and her remarrying in April or May 1547. After that she had no reason to mourn(as far as I know).

1548 is not supposed to be there at all!

...Unless of course you go with theory the painting is posthumous, and black symbolizes she is dead... But then, you'd have to go with possibility her posthumous painting is based upon an earlier portrait...not necessary the latest one. And you should tell that to the public! ...As to not confuse them, regarding the fashion visible within the painting.

Hence no, I don't agree with new dating of Jersey portrait.

PS: I sincerely hope this will be my last post about Parr for while, because tbh I've been focusing on her really a lot lately...

[tudorqueen6]

Jersey Portrait of Queen Katherine Parr: sold for £3.4 million

[stanford-photography]

Portrait of Billie From my series "Asbury Park, New Jersey". I worked on the boardwalk in the summers of 1974 and 76. By Jeff Stanford, 2023

Buy prints at: https://jeff-stanford.pixels.com/

[bea-trician]

Witness sketch.

[semioticapocalypse]

Bruce Davidson. The Dwarf. Palisades Amusement Park. New Jersey. 1958

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[12ozstudios]

Fresh black and gray lion portrait tattooed by Ruben Carrero at 12 oz. Studios Deptford, NJ.

[wonkavision1971]

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[saladtomatoes]

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[staingang]

self portrait in a grocery store restroom new jersey 2022

[intomore]

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First Christmas present of the season is done!

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[davetada]

Hanging with Delaney

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[eleanobody]

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[stanford-photography]

Portrait of Dave By Jeff Stanford, 2023 From my series "Asbury Park, New Jersey". I worked on the boardwalk in the summers of 1974 and 76. Buy prints at: https://jeff-stanford.pixels.com/

[swizziee]

Treach & Pepa. (1993)

[allanodyne]

Maybe in another lifetime I can be the first you meet

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