#la naissance de vénus

[rumforall]

[nobrashfestivity]

André Derain, La Naissance de Vénus, d’après Botticelli, 1905

[spirit-of-art]

Adolphe-William Bouguereau, La Naissance de Vénus, 1879

[sibelin]

I don't want people to reblog that AI art post so I'll put my addition here:

One thing that will always make me cringe with those AI imitations of middle to late 19th century art is how the intelligence will always try to match ALL the women figures with the current 21th century beauty standards. Now, of course, I wouldn't be complaining if these kind of images weren't plaguing the "classical art" or "oil painting" tags. But since they are, I will show you what 19th century painting of women really looks like. And yeah, I know, some paintings match with current beauty standards but it's still more complicated than that. "Classic" painting is not all about representing pretty ladies. Otherwise historians of art would be bored.

Okay, if it's a "classic" painting, let's go with neoclassicism which is basically a return to the classic inspirations from antiquity and a return to simplicity after years of the wild Baroque and Rococo of the 18th century. Want to see portraits of women in that time?

(Left : Detail of Portrait de madame de Verninac by Jacques-Louis David, 1979. Right : Portrait de Madame Duvaucey, 1809, Jean-Dominique Ingres).

So far, notice how these two women don't look at all like the women in those fake AI paintings. They are portraits of real women, thus real models. But even when they were painting gods, 19th century painters HAD models! Not only that, they were also inspired by antiquity, which wasn't really doing realism either, they had their own ideals like, to cite one exemple, the really straight noses you always see in greek statues. Well, that's also in neoclassical paintings! Look:

(Detail of La Mélancolie by Constance Marie Charpentier, 1801)

On the other side, you've got two strong opponents (and logical responding movements) to this return to classical culture : Romantism and Realism. Once again, look at the diversity :

(Left: Details of Les foins by Jules Bastien-Lepage, 1877. Right: Jeune orpheline au cimetière, Eugène Delacroix, 1824.)

Realism is pretty self-explanatory. The painters were going back to show normal people, farmers and workers. They weren't here to make them beautiful or to conform to beauty standards but to show the world as it is. Result was a lot of controversies, notably with Courbet and Les baigneuses, a representation of a strong woman in an unflatering pose and dirt on her feet that shook the beauty standards so dear to the academic ideals of his times. Check it out if you're interested, there's plenty of articles about it. And romanticism? Once again very diverse. Just look at pre-romantism, with Goya, who loooved representing fucked up little scenes. Or with Delacroix, here with one of his most famous portrait (Jeune orpheline au cimetière) probably because of the expression, the pose, everything that makes that girl look alive, real, unique.

But wait.... You've already seen classical paintings were the ladies looked like all the ladies nowadays, right? Maybe you've seen those very pretty pre raphaelites paintings with those women that look kinda like Florence Welch. Maybe you've seen academic art, the most palatable of 19th century style when it comes to beauty norms. And it's true, it could be similar to these prompted AI classical babes, except once again, it's not. Because once again, they had models, and models were different from paintings to paintings. And this is this systematic same face vibes that makes AI so boring. Because even when real historical art comes close to that, it is always way way way more rich and full of surprises.

(left : The North-West Passage by John Everett Millais, 1878. Middle: Detail of Contemplation by John William Godward, 1922. Right: Detail of La Naissance de Vénus by William Bouguereau, 1879)

Then, you have all these art styles that AI weirdly stays away from : those where the style and process is so strong, so much more important than the subject, that it would be hard to copy without noticing the difference. It could be impressionism, it could be symbolism or better, it could be the avant-garde artists that announces then blends into the wild, colorful and tortured art of the first half of the 20th century.

(Left: Le chemin de fer by Edouard Manet, 1973. Middle: I lock my door upon myself by Fernand Khnopff, 1891, Right: Jane Avril by Henri de Toulouse Lautrec, 1892)

Conclusion/ TLDR : If fake historical AI art becomes more realistic every day, it will never be as rich and diverse as the real deal because it will always be used to appease an algorithm for people who just want to see pretty images that catters to them and never challenge their views. When it comes to beauty norm, this could be dangerous and make people believe that these was always how women looked like. That all girls were born with removed buccal fat and symmetrical faces, even in old paintings. I don't know, it may be nothing, but it may be something. Thank you for those who read all that and I hope see many cool paintings in museums :)

Addition: This is of course a very european centric vision of art but it's what the AI will take inspiration from anyway. For the same reasons, these paintings are very white but I was also trying to avoid the icky orientalist representations that were so trendy in the 19th century. Note that there is an even better diversity in paintings when you open your eyes to non-european centric art.

(If I see a terf reblogging this, i'm blocking on sight)

[the-spirit-of-yore]

La Naissance de Vénus, William Bouguereau, 1879, Musée d'Orsay, Paris, France

[brokenbard]

La Naissance de Vénus - William-Adolphe Bouguereau, 1879, oil on canvas

[lorienn-art]

FR [Venus] Heyy Voici ma dernière illustration! J'avais le croquis prêt depuis quelques mois déjà mais je n'ai pu commencer la peinture que seulement depuis ces dernières semaines haha.. Mais je suis très heureuse de comment elle a tournée ! Évidemment cette illu a été inspirée par la représentation générale de la naissance de Vénus en art (en particulier celle de Botticelli) mais je voulais malgré tout faire ma propre version : alors que dans les tableaux représentant sa naissance, Vénus est souvent représentée comme timide/pudique ou passivement langoureuse, je voulais donner une vision de Vénus plus active et fière — je veux dire qu'elle est la déesse de l'amour et de la beauté, pourquoi voudrait-elle cacher son corps ? Pourquoi serait-elle une petite chose fragile et innocente ? Je voulais aussi insister sur son caractère adulte : même si le corps que je représente est jeune, ce n'est pas le corps d'une enfant ou d'une adolescente, c'est le corps d'une femme adulte Voilà, je pense que c'est tout ce que j'avais à peu près à dire sur cette illustration, j'espère qu'elle vous plaira ! 💖✨️ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

EN [Venus] Heyyy Here is my last illustration! I've had the sketch done for months but I was only able to paint it these past few weeks haha.. But I'm really happy of how it turned out! Obviously this piece was inspired by the general representation of the birth of Venus in art (especially Botticelli's) but I still wanted to do my own version: whereas in paintings representing her birth, Venus is often depicted as shy/modest or passively languid, I wanted to give a way more active and proud vision of Venus — I mean, she's the goddess of love and beauty, why would she hide her body? Why would she be a frail and innocent thing? I also wanted to insist on her "adultness": even if I depicted a young body, this is not the body of a child nor of a teenager, this is the body of an adult woman Yeah I think that's all I pretty much wanted to say on this piece, I hope you'll like it! 💖✨️

Uncensored version:

[the-cricket-chirps]

Pierre Roy

La naissance de Vénus

[gerard-menjoui]

Bella Hadid (400x640)

Crédit: Gérard Menjoui

J’ai vraiment un truc avec la naissance de Vénus en ce moment

[connoisseur-art]

*THE BIRTH OF VENUS* La naissance de Vénus (1874) ~ Henri Pierre Picou

French (1824~1895).

[lovijngart]

La Naissance de Vénus, Bouguereau - Musée d'Orsay, Paris

[nehalenniaspeil]

water element

alexandre cabanel — la naissance de vénus [1863]

[jordi-gali]

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Steoville -

(1) based on : La Naissance de Vénus, & (2)Les Oréades, William-Adolphe Bouguereau

[inemi]

La naissance de Vénus - Le visage..

Sandro Botticelli

[brokenbard]

I just want to say that I truly love the art you use on your account. I don’t see many people using works crafted in the Neoclassicism, Romanticism, Renaissance ages, etc. (I probably described it wrong, but I hope it still makes sense.) I’m a nerd for a lot of older things—novels, art, anything really—so seeing other people like it/use it, especially on Tumblr, really makes me happy! Also, to add on, do you know if you could do some tutorial on how you made the edit on the “La Naissance de Vénus, William-Adolphe Bouguereau, 1879, oil on canvas” post? I’ve been wanting to get into making those kinds of graphics myself, but a lot of the stuff I normally see on Tumblr that are free to use isn’t always my cup of tea, but I really like how that photo was formed (the small shakes and light suddenly coming and the text). And like to do it myself! So, so sorry this ask is long, it's a gift and a curse to be such a rambler,,,

Firstly, thank you :) I am a massive nerd too.

My enjoyment for all aspects of art is something I find a lot of joy in letting bleed into everything I create !! and classical art is very dear to me.

I unfortunately cannot provide a tutorial for that as it was a long time ago and a lot of my process of everything I make is very . “Fart around and find out” but ! I used capcut !! I’ve made a few things in a similar style in the past and for me all I keep in mind is that it’s more like a video edit than a graphic ? If that makes sense. I have a lot of experience as an editor so I just use that but then convert it to gif format , it’s something I wish more people in the community would use because I adore the effect and its a cool way to show multiple images in one

Also !! Apologies for inactivity, I will try to get to requests and post more often when I can

[saax2]

Venere (Venus)

La nascita di Venere, 1485 (Uffizi, Firenze) | Sandro Botticelli (1445-1510, Italia)

Venere dormiente, 1507-10 (Gemäldegalerie, Dresda) | Giorgione (1477/78 - 1510, Italia)

Venere di Urbino, 1538 (Uffizi, Firenze) | Tiziano (1488/90 - 1576, Italia)

Venere Rokeby (Venere e Cupido), 1648 ca. (National Gallery, London) | Velázquez (1599-1660, España)

Venus and Cupid |  Frederic Leighton (1830-1896, England)

La naissance de Vénus, 1875 | Alexandre Cabanel (1823-1889, France)

Pink Room (Venus and Cupid), 1907-13 | Józef Mehoffer (1869-1946, Poland)

Nascita di Venere, 1555-57 (Palazzo Vecchio, Firenze) | Giorgio Vasari (1511-1574, Italia)

Birth of Venus | Konstantin Makovsky (1839-1915, Russia)

Nascita di Venere, 1903 (Musei Civici di Venezia) | Ettore Tito (1859-1941, Italia)

Nascita di Venere (birth of Venus), 460-450 a.C. (BC) - Museo di palazzo Altemps, Roma

Il Trionfo di Venere (o, Allegoria dell'Inganno) - The Triumph of Venus (or, Allegory of Deception), 1540 (National Gallery, London) | Agnolo Bronzino (1503-1572, Italia)

Afrodite and Ares, 1913 | Gotthard Sonnenfeld (1874-1937, Germany)