#laena and daemon's son

[sarcasticsweetlara]

Daemon and Laena's son: Aemon Targaryen - Headcanons

I chose to pick a faceclaim and an AI drawing for this beautiful boy had he survived and grown to be his father's heir.

PD: I've given him the name Aemon in honor of his great-grandfather Aemon.

I think it's important to note how things would have happened had he survived:

1. Even if Aemon is Daemon and Laena's firstborn son, he could not inherit Driftmark (at first at least).

After debating with many others, I've come to the conclusion that even if Aemon survives, he could not inherit it because Luke is older and he carries the last name Velaryon, though obviously he's a Strong and everyone with eyes knows it, Corlys would be ecstatic about the birth of his first and only grandson, but he can not give him Driftmark because of his agreement with Rhaenyra in which he wanted Laenor's line to inherit it, because that way his last name would keep going. Of course, Corlys wants both his name and blood in the Iron Throne and Driftmark so that is why he supported the marriage agreements Rhaenyra and Laena had arranged of Jace/Baela and Lucerys/Rhaena.

I think the reason why Corlys insisted in the inheritance going this way was to protect Laenor, granted everyone knew the Strong boys were not the sons of Laenor and mocked him behind his back, but Corlys wanted at least the register that Laenor could fulfill his duty and with Adam and Alyn, Corlys wanted to make it seem that Laenor was capable of having enough physical attraction to women, and because he still didn't want to admit he cheated on Rhaenys and that it was him who risked the succession line of Driftmark .

2. As a result of Aemon not being able to be Lord of Driftmark but still being Daemon and Laena's only son who nonetheless is Daemon's firstborn, he would have to be given a castle and inheritance by Rhaenyra; also this would be a key factor in keeping him from wanting to take Driftmark as he would have a household of his own Aemon would be able to expand that will keep him occupied and satisfied enough that he will have no need of Driftmark.

Also ...

3. Aemon would need a strategic betrothal, Daemon would want to give Aemon a suitable match, an heiress, like a Baratheon maid.

Or for the sake of keeping his son's bloodline pure Daemon would betroth Aemon to a Velaryon from a minor branch in order to appease the Velaryons even more; Book! Daemon is actually pretty clever when it comes to politics.

Of course, in order to soothe the nerves of Corlys and Rhaenys over their bloodline, Baellian's firstborn son would be wed to Joffrey's firstborn daughter and viceversa.

4. Aemon would want to fight during the Dance, however as he would still be a boy, since Aemon would be like one year older than Aegon the Younger - around 11 months- he would be only nine when the war started which means Aemon's too young to fight.

5. If Aemon survived the dance, he would probably be Lord of Driftmark. As Jacaerys, Lucerys and Joffrey would be dead, Corlys would ask Rhaenyra to change Aemon's name from Targaryen to Velaryon when he ascended. Of course, he would still ask for the legitimization of Addam and Alyn, but since he had already had problems with Rhaenyra and Daemon at this point, Corlys would give them "this boon" in order to reconcile.

6. Aemon would not rule as king, yes he's the firstborn son of the Rogue Prince, the younger brother of King Viserys, but since he already is heir to Driftmark and has his own keep - that would be built since the beginning because obviously Daemon would want his firstborn son's inheritance secure- away from the Red Keep, and as Aemon would emphasize Aegon's claim was stronger as he had the support of the Blacks as the only living son of Rhaenyra The Black Queen (as it was thought back then before Viserys II returned) he can not rule, Aegon would still have a better claim since he's King Viserys' grandson/nephew, while Aemon is Viserys' nephew/first cousin-twice-removed/second cousin-once-removed, Aegon would win by proximity - something their great-great-grandfather Jaehaerys had done with Viserys to have him as heir. Also, it would be a homage to the fact Viserys never changed his heir: Rhaenyra, as The Blacks were still fighting after Rhaenyra's death while the Greens killed Aegon The Elder.

7. In the case Aemon has not married his betrothed and Baela is also single Aemon would marry Baela. The regents would want him isolated from his younger brother Aegon The Younger in order to manipulate the boy, and would still want to wed off Baela. Baela would go to her brother and ask him to wed each other. Just like their great-great-grandparents did. They would have so much potential together, the first daughter and son of Daemon and Laena, who both were dragonriders - as obviously Aemon would be given a dragon egg - and who grew up loving and respecting each other.

However, that would be if as I said, Aemon has not married his betrothed who will be the Lady of Driftmark. If he is already married, his wife's family would not want him to remarry as part of the agreement they had made with Aemon's father, so what Aemon could do is have Baela wed to Alyn (knowing Corlys, he would have legitimized them but not make them heirs since Corlys has his grandson).

[acewithapencil]

Lucerys meeting his loved ones in the afterlife ❤️🥲

[littlemarse]

[syndrossi]

Estaba viendo en los comentarios que no estabas seguro de realmente integrar a Laena en la historia, así que lo pensé.

Realmente puedo entender tu punto sobre no estar seguro de incluirla. Entonces, ¿por qué no haces un AU donde ella esté incluida en la dinámica familiar como un mundo alternativo, de la misma manera que se hizo Reverberant.

Yeah, there are so many ways the story could go differently given X or Y happening, which is why so many named AUs have sprung up! I think a Laena marriage AU would be one where Laena survives her second childbirth and she and Daemon remain together. Which means Laenor as eventual King-Consort!

[midnight--sadness]

im sorry but why did i just realize that jace, luke and joff are the great-grandsons of both aemon AND baelon and alyssa

in the same way that baela and rhaena are the granddaughters of baelon and alyssa AND the great-granddaughters of aemon

[gotham-at-nightfall]

The Royal Families of The Seven Kingdoms: Part 2

By Jota Saraiva

[gedwimora]

it’s probably a sign that one of the things i do while half asleep in bed is tinker with phrasings for how i want to explain the massive canon divergencies i have planned for rhaen.yra and dae.mon…

[tweedfrog]

Seeing a lot of the condemnations and then justifications re: Rhaenyra's treatment of Baela and Rhaena this episode has been interesting because while i think the writers aren't intentionally delving into it they keep presenting Rhaenyra as being caught in this never ending maze of patriarchy she cannot escape. Like let's analyse the possible motivations:

1. She is sending Baela into danger because Jace is the heir and Baela is "only" the consort and you can always get another consort.

Hmmm yes because treating women like interchangeable broodmares has worked out so well for the Targaryens before (Viserys and his wives??)

2. She is sending out Baela because she views Baela as more competent than Jace.

Baela and Jace are about the same age. Also what about Baela says "restrained and calm" my girl is a courageous hothead just like her mother and father. If she believed this i could almost see Rhaenyra as not really knowing Baela's personality well enough to make a judgement call because show baela would absolutely taunt ser criston with her dragon and book Baela wouldve probably set the whole wood on fire. Like idk viewing women as being more mature and competent at a younger age is not a feminist line of thought.

3. The whole "you must be a mother to my children" thing with Rhaena like other people have analysed it far better than me but I think we can all agree that asking a 14 yr old to mother your children is very much imprisoning her into a patriarchal role you yourself chafed at.

I guess I understand the extremity of war is causing these conflicting decisions but i would like it a lot more if the show went deeper into the difficulties show Rhaenyra experiences with wanting to fight against a patriarchal system but being continually made to re-inforce it. I also think that attempting to paint team black as having a healthier family dynamic while showing the audience a quite unhealthy dynamic is a bit cheap? Like show us the health if you want us to believe it! More scenes like the one where Rhaenyra sent dragon eggs with Rhaena as a pretty obvious apology attempt and an attempt to show faith in her

[velcryons]

Actually now i am thinking of the implications* of a matrilineal marriage between Daemon and Laena

[bimyself06]

Modernau where the Targaryens are a mafia but make it a crime comedy:

Baelon lived became head of the Mafia when Jaehaerys croaked, made both Rhaenys and Viserys his co-heirs. Aemon, Alyssa, Aemma, any Targaryen or family member who died in unclear ways, were all killed by the Hightowers who want to supplant the Targaryens as the Boses of the Mafia. Baelon married Daemon to both Laena and Rhaenyra as both girls are his heirs oldest children, and he wants to keep the power in the family(something he believes his father should have done instead of attempting to marry his youngest children off to other families leading to either their deaths ofmr estrangement, when he became boss he called Saera back), betweenthe three of them they have 9 children(Jace, Luke, Baela, Rhaena, Joffrey, Baelon II, Aegon III, Viserys II, and Visenya). After Aemma's death, Viserys still marries Alicent(despite everyone being against it) and still has four children with her.

Since Viserys went against his orders, Baelon removed him and his children from Alicent from the mafia succecion and gave the position of heir to Rhaenyra. When Baelon eventually retires, it's Rhaenys, Laena, and Rhaenyra who are in charge and decide to continue Baelons's plans for the Hightowers.

They begin by destroying all business deals the Hightowers have, bringing their fortune down as they try their best to keep everything afloat. When realizing that with their businesses are being destroyed, they try to find a way to put one of Alicent's children at the helm of the Mafia by marrying either Baela or Jace. Unfortunately(for the Hightowers, that is), Rhaenyra and Laena had anticipated this, so they betrothed Jace and Baela.

But it wouldn't be me if I didn't add a splash of JaceLuke and Baena, so while Jace and Baela are engaged, they both are having a relationship behind everyone's back with their beloved brother/sister(except Laena, Daemon, Laenor, Baelon, and the R's know;they have walked in on them so many times). They make it game to be as affectinate/inappropriate in front of the Hightowers as they can be, Daemon is so proud.

Ps: if anyone wants to write this let me know

[naerys-arryn]

HotD! and Daella lives:

Laena is thrilled Larissa's egg hatched and Aerion feels he's the only one worried about the apex predator (even a small one) that is now chilling with his baby in her crib

Aerion has seen the process with Alyssa and Maekar, but he’s allowed to be terrified of having a dragon in crib with Larissa because it might shoot fire at the wrong time and hurt Larissa!!!

[sarcasticsweetlara]

hiii, i have seen lot of ideas where the dance never happens like rhaenyra having a succesful reign, happy marriage life for jace-baela/ luke-rhaena. i think it would be funny if viserys run away to lys in a saera style for the drama, well my point is i like your au's so i wanted to know if you have headcanons for team black where the dance of the dragons never happened

There are many scenarios I could think of, actually...

And it depends how you want to see it because there are things that if erased creates more advantages and new situations, but could still stop the war.

1. Alicent accepts Rhaenyra's proposal of betrothing Jace and Helaena.

And Baela is betrothed to a Velaryon cousin (not a son of Vaemond due his infamy of wanting to take Driftmark from Corlys and his line), like a grandson of Malentine Velaryon (Maelor Velaryon; it's most likely Maelor is a Velaryon name) to support the claim of Lucerys and back him

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With Helaena becoming Queen consort she gives legitimacy to Jace's reign as well as Alicent getting her daughter as Queen consort, and with Baela being a backbone with the Velaryons then Luke will receive support as the Lord of Driftmark with Rhaena as Lucerys' wife as well; Jace's children could marry Baela's children and Joffrey as well marries one of the daughters of Baela to further legitimize his line.

Baela would be a lady-in-waiting for Helaena, and together they would arrange the betrothal of their children.

2. Jace marries Baela (now Daemon sees his daughter as Queen), Lucerys still marries Rhaena, and the children of Luke and Rhaena marry the children of Joff.

Now, in all of the scenarios present Aegon III would marry Daenaera as an alliance (they would always marry each other), and Viserys II would marry his niece Daena <<Daena deserved to become The Queen and be the mother of Daeron II and Daenerys, and of the whole dynasty>> to unite their bloodlines; and if baby Visenya survives, then Viserys would marry her (the original plan of Martin), and their son would marry their niece Daena to once again unite the bloodline with Daena being Queen and having her uncle and aunt as Hand and counselors.

3. Other possible scenario but this time after Rhaenyra: Aegon the Younger calls for a High Council once Rhaenyra dies peacefully, and he is chosen as king as the oldest legitimate son of Rhaenyra (Jace would no longer have the protection of Rhaenyra), Baela gets to Maelor Velaryon, and she becomes the Lady of Driftmark as a consort (we know Corlys would never choose her, but he could choose a great-great-nephew he liked), while Rhaena marries Corwyn Corbray, and Viserys would still marry either Visenya or Daena; but even then Aegon III would have mercy and spare the lives of Jace, Luke and Joffrey, and they would be married off to minor ladies.

Honestly, in the second and third scenarios I have to admit I think Aegon would eventually reach for the Throne because legitimately it is his.

...

Anyways, Rhaena's children would marry Baela's children, and Rhaena and Baela would be councilors to both Aegon III and Viserys II Targaryen.

I think it would be nice to see Daena or Visenya matching Viserys' fire and having a partner who is an equal and loves and supports him since he would be spared being a hostage of three different Lyseni families that threatened him and also would spare Westeros of the Rogare family, Aegon the Unworthy and the Blackfyre Rebellions.

Either way any of these relationships would mirror that of Baelon and Alyssa or Daemon and Rhaenyra.

But beyond that, Baela would be happy to become Lady of Driftmark, this time in a happy marriage, and would have a husband devoted to her; she would name her first daughter in honor of her mother and first son in honor of her grandfather Corlys; and Laena would be the grandmother of Aelinor Penrose through a daughter of hers (HC: Coryssa Velaryon) who married into House Penrose.

Rhaena would be free of the pressure of providing an heir quickly and therefore her first baby would be born, and would be able to use her dragon to quell the protestors against Joffrey Arryn (the heir of Jeyne Arryn) and Corwyn would live.

Baela would always introduce Daenaera to Aegon III, and Rhaena would take Viserys II on travels to Dragonstone and the whole realm.

Once Viserys II comes back, (if Visenya is not alive) Daena would meet him and they would fall in love and marry.

Baela's favorite niece would be Daena, followed by the daughters of her sister Rhaena, whereas Rhaena's favorite niece would be her little namesake.

Without the trauma of Larra Rogare and the need to overcompensate due to their involvement, Viserys II would see the practicality in sending Baelor to a Sept and therefore there would be no Maidenvault, and no threat of a religious war with the Stepstones, the Iron Isles and the North, as well as no disbalance of taxes going to the High Septons.

Rhaenyra and Daemon would be able to meet their grandchildren and great-grandchildren, and if Rhaenyra's daughter survives, Rhaenyra would have loved spoiling her little princess.

If Baela and Rhaena's full younger brother survives as well, this little boy called Aemon in honor of his great-grandfather, would be completely loyal to his half-brothers Aegon the Younger and Viserys, he would have a keep of his own in the Crownlands given by Rhaenyra so he doesn't compete against the Strong boys

But even then, Aemon would support his legitimate younger brother's birthright.

If Aemon lives, he would marry Maris Baratheon and that's one more ally for the Blacks.

Aemon would claim Grey Ghost itself or steal one of its eggs, he's the son of Daemon and Laena after all, and want to fight but he would be beat to it by Baela.

Aemon would be a male mini-Laena being as adventurous, smooth and demure as his mother, and his sisters would tell him stories about their mother.

Viserys would claim Vermithor and if Visenya lives, then she can claim Silverwing, and Daena and Rhaena could get one of the other dragon eggs of their aunt Rhaena, Elaena's egg could also hatch as well.

Baela would get a new dragon from one of the eggs of Morning as well.

Daemon would teach all of his sons how to fight and encourage them to embrace chaos.

Baela and Rhaena would spoil their little sister Visenya, and as Baela is a tomboy and Rhaena a girl's girl, I like to think Visenya would be kind of an introvert with a stylish witch vibe.

Viserys II would bring his mother many treasures he found on his travels.

And without the trauma of seeing Rhaenyra die, Aegon would proudly wear the crown of Rhaenyra and Daena would wear it as well.

And Visenya would get special tiaras for herself and Viserys as the second and third in command of Aegon III and later Daena.

And I guess these are my headcanons.

[reireichu]

We'll forever have the scars.

Part VII. miss universe.

Rhaenyra likes the idea of someone young and beautiful, someone like an ornament she can display to the world, flaunting all sense of propriety. Sophie understands that in a way, because Rhaenyra enjoys oversized blazers and Vitalumiere foundation and she also likes to win. She likes to surround herself by comfort and beautiful things, because that is what her father has made clear since birth, that all those beautiful, precious things are hers by right.

All, except the one.

I think I could make some commentary on how psychologically messed up Sophie is by the past and by everyone in her life, but at this point, why would I write that commentary when I can just watch as she and Aegon just get really fucking unhinged.

rip my soul, i need baby jebus to forgive me for how fucking terrible this.

We'll forever have the scars. @ AO3

[goodqueenaly]

If Daemon and Laena had a son, how do you think that would affect the Velaryons? With a legitimate grandson, would they want to leave Driftmark to HIM instead of Jace, who will marry Baela? I feel like in the OTL, they were OK with this situation since their real heir was Baela and her blood would continue Driftmark, but here she is not the real heir. "Baelon" is. Thank you!

To be clear, it doesn’t seem to have ever been the case that Jacaerys was the intended successor to Driftmark. Describing when Corlys Velaryon suddenly sickened in 126 AC, Gyldayn notes that his legal heir would nominally have been “his eldest grandson, Jacaerys … [sic] but since Jace would presumably ascend the Iron Throne after his mother, Princess Rhaenyra urged her good-father to name instead her second son, Lucerys”. Likewise, the green offer at the outset of the Dance specified that “[Rhaenyra’s] second son, Lucerys, would be recognized as the rightful heir to Driftmark, and the lands and holdings of House Velaryon”. I am also acting on the presumption that the son in question would have that same short-lived Prince Baelon whom Laena died giving birth to at the start of 120 AC (and that the rest of the history up to this point would have gone the same as well, of course).

All of that is to say, by the time this Prince Baelon would have been born (and certainly by the time he would’ve been a potential heir to Driftmark), I don’t think the Velaryons could have acknowledged this Prince Baelon as heir to Driftmark without severely compromising their position. After all, even if Lucerys hadn’t been formally named heir to Driftmark by 120 AC, he had certainly been held out as the (ostensibly) legitimate second son of Laenor Velaryon, with the probable expectation that either he or big brother Jacaerys (or even younger brother Joffrey) would succeed their “father” to Driftmark. To have Corlys suddenly declare after 120 AC “just kidding, I’d like to have my daughter’s son be my heir” would raise a pretty huge eyebrow as to why Corlys would be skipping over his apparently legitimate male-line grandson for a female-line grandson. With rumors already rampant about the true paternity of Rhaenyra’s “Velaryon” sons, such an act might have been no less than dumping wildfire onto the embers of rumor - seemingly publicly declaring that the Velaryons believed that Rhaenyra’s sons were illegitimate - which the green faction in turn might have seized upon, either to drum up more support against Rhaenyra and/or to push Viserys for a change in the succession. (Not to mention that Rhaenyra and Daemon had already agreed IOTL to betroth Jacaerys and Lucerys to Baela and Rhaena, respectively, by 120 AC; the Velaryons already had a means, however much they might have privately wondered about Rhaenyra’s sons’ paternity, of guaranteeing that Velaryon blood would inherit Driftmark in the future.)

Which is not to say young Prince Baelon wouldn’t have been important. As a roughly nine year old boy at the start of the Dance, it’s unlikely that he would have done much in the way of fighting - yet as the paternal half-brother of Aegon III, this prince would have been a very obvious choice as the young king’s heir presumptive (especially if he managed to stick around where Viserys had “disappeared”, and of course assuming he survived the Dance alive and relatively speaking well). Where Baela and Rhaena were both (Seven save the realm /s) girls who could only be expected to marry and provide the king male heirs of their bodies, this Baelon would have been a male heir, who could in turn continue the male line of House Targaryen. It’s too hard to speculate how history might have changed, but it’s interesting to consider.

[bohemian-nights]

How would Nettles be Daemon’s half sister?

So in the sibling AU her age is being bumped up/the timeline would change somewhat. Instead of being born in 113 AC she’s born in 99AC. Baelon is her father(the man had been a widower for almost two decades, he wanted to feel something).

Her mother is the same as book canon(a prostitute) only this time she does know who Netty’s father is.

Baelon never visits them, but he does send them some money which stops when he dies in 101 AC(blame Jaehaerys).

Her mother dies when she’s pretty young as well(a personal headcanon of mine throughout all of my fics on her, I can’t let it go so I’m sticking with it). Thus she grows up an orphan like in canon.

Nettles obviously still claims Sheepstealer(with sheep like in canon), but it’s before any type of war.

The claiming causes her to catch the attention of Gollum and Daemon, who may or may not be aware of her existence, but they don’t care really care until they see she’s tamed a wild dragon 🐑🐉

[prideprejudce]

people will always blame alicent and rhaenyra or even daemon for sparking the start of the civil war but at the end of the day it will always come back to viserys and his cowardly decisions. as soon as he allowed himself to be bullied to remarry and to have more kids again, he officially sewed the seeds together for future conflict after his death no matter who he married. like if he had married laena instead of alicent and had sons with her, would the outcome have been so different? do you think rhaenys and corlys would have stood on the sidelines and watched their grandson get passed over? especially after rhaenyra had illegitimate sons that weren't even laenors? that they wouldn't have petitioned their own dance? the snake will always eat its own tail for power, and viserys doomed rhaenyra to her death with his own