#light no fire

[hedwyn-here]

I still see people obsessively hating on Hello Games for the launch of No Man's Sky, saying they will never trust them, never buy a game from them etc... A very ambitious game made by (for most of it's development) less than 10 employees had to cut some of it's planned content before launch. They were (reportedly) pressured into announcing the game before they were ready, their studio flooded, they had to borrow internet from their neighbours by running ethernet out of the windows, they had a huge company suddenly advertising it as the next big AAA release despite the fact the studio was running out of money...

They aren't blameless, but it doesn't take a whole lot to see how a small group who were incredibly passionate about their work (and without a PR team) could get caught up in this situation.

But you know what? They've spent the last 10 years continually working on that game. Adding more and more content, getting it to where people expected it to be and even beyond in ways nobody could have predicted. Every single trailer they've released since has shown nothing but precicely what the game will offer. And we still see people treating them like industry villains.

There's a particular reason this bothers me so much, and it's name is Randy Pitchford.

A few years before No Man's Sky was released, Gearbox advertised the game Aliens: Colonial Marines with fabricated trailers, gameplay and screenshots. Not just things that had to be removed from the game for budgetary or time reasons, but literally just things they faked purely to advertise the game. What can only be construed as an intentional attempt to lie to the audience so they would buy a game. They were accused of using money SEGA had given them for the development of the game to fund their own proejct, Borderlands. Not only did Gearbox never try to fix Colonial Marines, to my knowledge they never even acknowledged any of the shitty stuff they did. Pitchford routinely attempted to slide that blame onto others (and if I remember rightly even said some pretty unpleasant stuff abotu Steff Sterling for daring to criticise the game on multiple occasions). Yet people are still more than happy to jump on Gearbox games uncritically. Even though they reportedly treat their staff like shit. Have very questionable means of paying their staff that afford them the opportunity to deny them bonuses even management (like Pitchford) are taking home huge bonuses of their own.

This is an example of a large developer very intentionally and maliciously lying to the audience and nobody seemed to give a shit about it even as little as a year after release.

For my money, Hello Games have proven themselves. I'll take an over-ambitious passionate group of artists who can't quite deliver on their promises over a malicious and predatory corporation any day of the week.

Fuck Gearbox.

<3 Hello Games.

I can't fuckin wait to play Light no Fire, I will buy that shit day 1.

[anonymouscomrade]

"Light No Fire is gonna suck when it launches, remember No Man's Sky?" well for one NMS is good now, and for two they probably don't have Sony breathing down their necks and threatening to pull their funding if they don't release in the middle of pre-alpha this time

[fortythealien]

Sean we already did this song and dance what are you doing sean

[lithicality]

2024 is going to be incredible for gaming

We got a lot of new trailers at the Game Awards this year, but the fact that we got THREE TRAILERS from House House (Untiled Goose Game), Motion Twin (Dead Cells), AND Hello Games (No Man's Sky) for BRAND NEW GAMES is so exciting.

[placesyoucallhome]

Foxes are one of the characters you can make in Light No Fire and I know exactly what I'm gonna do once it releases

*eyes the emoji tweeted out from the official Twitter page*

[tobiasdrake]

So Hello Games is releasing a new game called Light No Fire. They dropped a trailer for it at the Game Awards and. Um.

I don't know if this is going to be a good game or not. What I do know is that I've never in my life seen YouTube offer suicide counseling to people over a trailer.

So. That happened.

Pretty alarming marketing, right there.

[sinew-lattice]

Light no fire is making me go nuts with theories. Is it a prequel? Will we see the atlas in its prime or at the start of its collapse? Does it take place it the same time as no mans sky but shed a new perspective on the atlas's corruption? Or is it even after the atlas's death, and a creation of the abyss after outliving it? IS IT ANOTHER SIMULATION COMPUTER ENTIRELY??? I'm going insane

[chiclet-go-boom]

Through no fault of my own, I ended up kind of tuning into the video game awards yesterday and there were a couple of not-so-hidden gems that look right up my video game alley coming our way at some point before the apocalypse.

This is Light No Fire from Hello Games, the studio that gave us No Man's Sky - one of our favorite game redemption stories. Plucky little studio that fucked up badly because they sold a game that didn't actually exist yet and it took them a whole bunch of time to finally make good - but make good they did and NMS is one of my favorite games now.

This is obviously built on the NMS technology and includes concepts from NMS as well (hello, Atlas!) which is pretty fantastic. There are some very cool looking ideas in this. Is there a game in here? Is it just a really lush sandbox? Don't really mind either way - I will be jumping on this pretty much as soon as it lands so here's hoping I'm still alive then to check it out.

[homearcadeconsolehobbyist]

[computerchips]

no man's sky please learn what the game audience is like. you know better than anyone else what they demand but you're gonna shoot yourself in the dick TWICE? TWICE?

[azure-llama]

After hearing about what Aonuma said about Zelda and not wanting to go back to the old style I'll just go ahead and talk about it.

BotW and TotK are good games on their own. But as Zelda games they are incredibly dissapointing. I miss the BotW era of speculation where we thought it was going to be closer to something like Twilight Princess but you choose where you want to go. Now it doesn't resemble Zelda at all outside of the characters.

To segway, I think Light no Fire is gonna be a good example of what Open World Zelda can be if they just ditch the Zelda name like they should because it's not at all close to normal Zelda.

Also, while I have not played it, Tunic exists and I've heard it's pretty good so just play that if you want classic Zelda.

[f1a910]

👏👏👏👏👏

can't wait!

[aywren]

I have high hopes for Light No Fire - in fact, I even made a topic page just for the game because I suspect it might be my next favorite survival sandbox.

[tequitoclown]

As much as I'm excited for whatever the fuck OD is, Light No Fire was the best announcement at the game awards hands down. And the No Man's Sky update news!

I am not biased shut up

[anonymouscomrade]

>Light No Fire announced >open world fantasy adventure from the devs behind No Man's Sky >trailer ends with the title reveal over what's clearly an alternate take on the fucking Atlas symbol

knowing what i know about No Man's Sky's story now that i've (probably?) almost finished it... look, i fucking hate monkaS, but if there was ever a time for it

[teaboot]

Whoever needs to hear this. Please know.

"Closed at 6pm" does not mean "The entry door locks up at 6, but if you're already inside you can keep on shopping."

It means, "you should be finished and out of the store at 6pm."

This is not up for debate

This is just how things work