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Exploring Different Language Scripts

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Introduction Latin Script Arabic Script Chinese Script Cyrillic Script Devanagari Script Book Recommendations Online Resources Visual Representation Conclusion Introduction Language scripts are not just tools for writing but are cultural and historical symbols, reflecting the diversity of human expression. From the intricate curves of Arabic to the pictographic nature of Chinese, each…

[linguaphiliax]

[twinkl22004]

Terrence Deacon, “The Symbolic Species: The Co-evolution of Language and the Brain”, 1997, PART TWO (II).

  Terrence Deacon, “The Symbolic Species: The Co-Evolution of Language and Brain”, 1997 was the topic of an earlier blog post,   Here I present: Terrence Deacon, “The Symbolic Species: The Co-Evolution of Language and Brain”, 1997, PART TWO (II). COMMENTS. Reading is under represented in Terrance Deacon, “The Symbolic Species: The Co-Evolution of Language and Brain”, 1997.  This blog post adds…

[curubethion]

thinking about how great grawlix are

like yes they’re just euphemism and censorship technically but at the same time they are VIBRANT, like “******” is bland, boring, utilitarian

grawlix are garish, grawlix are noisy, rude, they’re built off of the characters that don’t belong in the middle of a sentence, they’re flagrant misuses of punctuation and they’re wonderful

“!” is an interjection of emotion at the end of a sentence--and when you pluck it out of its rightful space and smash it into something like “#%!@” it becomes part of a whole, contributing that emotion in an out-of-place way

“@” is an accounting symbol, a technical marker from e-mails, but in the context of grawlix it becomes a looping wild letter, a swirl and bending of what roughly looks like the letter “a” but with something else attached to it

“#” is for phones, it’s for hashtags, it’s for computer code, but when you use it to cover up a cuss, it becomes harsh and angular and jarring

and there’s no right way to do grawlix; there’s wrong ways, but you can write something “#!%#@” or you can write it “?#@%@” or you can write it “?!$@#!” and it all works! Or turn back the page to the older comics and get creative with pictures! Once upon a time, “💀💀💀🗡🗡🗡” was grawlix, although it doesn’t exactly mean the same thing any more. But the point is--they are yours to shape and make

a pure expression of emotion that turns into so much more than just masking a harsh word

something visceral and rough and instinctual

and I think that’s neat

[serpentface]

WARDI WRITTEN LANGUAGE (BASICS).

Couya's full name (properly 'Haidamane Couya') written formally and with common handwriting conventions.

The Wardi written language derives from earlier proto-language systems consisting exclusively of logograms without direct phonetic meaning or grammatical structure. These symbols gradually became simplified and abstracted to the point of many having little intrinsic clarity, and combined to communicate abstract concepts.

The development of a full written language did not occur independently (as very few written languages do), and its phonetic elements (namely its use of syllabograms) were largely derived the 'ancient' Burri writing system, gradually synthesized with native writing conventions, and in the contemporary forms a wholly distinct system. The language's Relatively universalized form is a very recent phenomena, developing within the past two centuries with the region's conquering/unification into a single entity.

The contemporary written language is a mixture of logograms and syllabograms. It is read from right to left and arranged in horizontal columns. The most formal variant of this system contains each character within a square outline, usually separated by a small space. This outline confers little phonetic or symbolic information beyond making distinction between syllables exceptionally clear, and can be (and often is) omitted in handwriting. The separation of words is conveyed through a narrow rectangle or line in formal contexts, and again often omitted in handwriting (instead indicated instead by a wider blank space).

The pure logograms that have been retained in this writing system tend to be those of very common words or specific concepts (most logogram characters for types of livestock, key crops, water, major body parts, etc are widely recognized and in common use). There has not yet been any attempts to fully 'formalize' the language and omit potentially unnecessary logograms, and they remain frequently used as shorthand while conveying the same semantic information.

Many of the syllabogram characters are directly derived from logograms that depicted monosyllabic words. For example, the spoken word 'gan' means 'cow', and the character for the syllable 'gan' is identical to the common logogram for 'cow'.

The name Gantoche (literally "cow-eye") could be written either fully with syllabograms as:

or through logograms as:

Both ultimately communicate the same meaning, but the former clarifies pronunciation (the words gan and atoche are contracted, it's gantoche and not gan-atoche).

It is a relatively easy written language to learn, as the pure syllabogram characters indicate their own pronunciation with little ambiguity and often have consistency to their construction (ie the character for the syllable 'man' contains most of the same elements as that for the syllable 'wan'- the dot placement in particular has indication of the vowel sounds).

The inclusion of logograms in general and many of the syllabic characters being directly imported From logograms complicates matters. These characters lack visual consistency, and can be confusing to the large swath of the public who know common logograms but not the full written language itself. Ie: the word 'ungande' meaning 'liver' will be composed of logogram-derived syllable characters for 'un' (which alone means 'hand') and 'gan' (which alone means 'cow'). Someone who is only semi-literate in common logograms may be confused at the meaning, especially since these same exact same characters may be used elsewhere on their own to indicate 'hand' or 'cow'.

One major exception to this tendency is that current religious doctrine requires established logogram characters describing God to be used in place of syllabic characters. The word for god is 'Od', and has its own unique character (as do each of the Faces, the capital F 'Face', and Its deified pronoun). The syllable 'od' [oʊd] is very common in the Wardi language, and a wholly separate character is used for the phonetic sound when it is not a reference to the deity (ie 'lion' (odo [oʊdoʊ]) does not contain the same character for God in spite of its first syllable having the exact same pronunciation). Names are a bit of a gray area (ie: the name 'Odabi' is very common and carries the meaning of 'gift/blessing from God'). Religious leadership is currently experiencing a mild schism on whether the written character for God is separated due to being wholly sacrosanct (and thus inappropriate to include in the written form of a personal name) or as more of a functional delineation of the sacred and mundane.

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Notation System for Mudras G. Venu, 1965

Source

[battlecrazed-axe-mage]

This is by far the cleanest my inventory has been in months. Dawntrail, here we come!

[elvenrunes]

wãaraáwą ąmooxüúláva

akeêgü hóṇame tiį pọ

akuusų hóṇame oǫ pọ

ne akuusúthâqé | kámoosńṭamẹ jäá ğathjí

sjégi kápąmẹ ąnórüú wãaraáwą

ne káṭalámẹ qągi ątjẽe ąlüú | oju oju ṭatoówą

ne kápüųmẹ toóxüû

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when the creature decayed

its blood turned to lakes

its flesh turned to dirt

and its parasites needed something new to eat

so they went to the creature's brain

and gathered the last lingering pieces of its soul

and created life

[smashorpassobjects2]

[mythrilpencil]

“You step cautiously into the side chamber of the dragon’s lair. Its ceiling, hewn out of the stone, towers high above your heads. You expect some treasure, or perhaps yet another trap. But the chamber is empty.

“All save for a massive map of the known world carved into the far wall. Each mile of coast and each river meticulously scratched into the wall by a dragon’s claw. There are no borders shown, no mountains nor forests. Not even the Great Storm. Only 15 locations—including an island in the center of the Inner Sea you’ve never seen—each labeled in Old Draconic.

“And as you approach the map, the markings light up.”

———

Been working on a world map for a D&D-compatible setting in my Aether ‘Verse, so I made a version of the map that would have been made by a dragon.

[whatudottu]

Hey, I noticed your post on Ectonurite religious practices, and I thought the concepts were very interesting. I’m a big fan of the Anur System myself, to the point I’ve learned how to make languages for them, if that’s not too weird…

In reference to this post-

The 'having a favourite fictional setting' to 'make a conlang' pipeline is all to real Pilgrim, my linguistics teacher let me use mine for my end of term project instead of the assigned analysis (transcribing a conversation between yourself and a friend, which probably would've been useful to study); you wouldn't believe what planet I based it on (don't look at my icon that's cheating :P)

But nah yeah, the Anur System is to me one of my favourite parts of Ben 10 Omniverse since I love horror and horror themed things but hate being scared of them so- the Anur System and the movie monsters that influence their design always has a special place in my head!

Even in my mutants and magic au where I retcon even OS to include more mutants and more magic users and presence where I made the Mummy an actual mummified priest who's attempt at resurrect worked (to the detriment to waking up to the grubby mitts of the British museum) and making Viktor an actual frankenstein's monster who's functionally mutant both to parallel Gwen and Max better (Gwen for magic obviously, Max for being a not-so-ex-Plumber who dealt with more than just alien phenomena but humans doing weird things inspired by old books and other stuff), I can't not still have the entirety of the Anur System still exist! I can't remember who but someone made thep khufan siphonophores and well- riding the coattails of my fulmini posting I got excited over them :P same goes for transylians though I haven't thought much about their potentially interesting biology other than the thought of 'how weird can scar tissue adaptations in biology become' so :P :P :P

[linguaphiliax]

[cyclogenesis]

Made the mistake of tossing off one throwaway Egyptology joke in a story and now I'm knee deep in Wikipedia trying to learn how to pronounce hieroglyphics

[happi-speech]

Would a question mark be considered a logograph?

Ive seen it many times used online as an entire response to convey confusion or to represent the exclamaition 'what?'.

Ive seen '?!' used as a response too, usually to something thats profound or alarming.

Ive read a few articles on english logographs and they explain that theres not many except numerical digits and some keyboard signs. Though I wonder how much the internet and younger gens have changed that. Like using single letters to represent words, like L for lose or loser (or loss if you know the meme) and W for win, winner, or success in general. So would a single or several question marks convey words or syllables as a logograph?

[hercorrupterofwords]

the girls are heree