#mandoverse

[friskynotebook]

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[randomwritingguy]

My potentially unpopular opinions of Ahsoka Tano:

Stories post the Wrong Jedi arc have diminished the impact of the ending by making Ahsoka a Jedi in denial. She pretty much acts like a Jedi except some rare exceptions so her saying stuff like "I'm no Jedi" isn't as powerful as it should have been. Now when I watch the ending of her walking away from the temple and the order I don't see it as a story choice that improves Ahsoka's character but merely an explanation on why she isn't in Revenge of the Sith.

I never thought Ahsoka would be the kind of person who would have a padawan. Not against the idea though.

Live action Ahsoka being the Gandalf of Star Wars doesn't fit her at all. She's basically a slightly less strict Mace Windu in terms of personality now. Rebels handled her better where she was wise but more chilled and laid back.

Ahsoka Tano's story should have ended in Star Wars Rebels. It would have been tragic but satisfying to have her stay by her master's side and not leaving him even if it means she would die. Her journey would have started with Anakin and would end with Anakin (as Darth Vader).

I like the World Between Worlds but I hate how it was introduced just to save her life. It is arguably worse than Rey being resurrected by Ben's force heal.

Ahsoka's future is boring and uninteresting and I think Rey's journey post The Rise of Skywalker has way more potential.

[agentscamander-romanoff]

So I have predictions for Ahsoka's arc in her TV-show.

Ahsoka as we see in Mandoverse shows "believes" in attachment rule,but I think everything is deeper.

It's obvious that she starts to believe in this rule after Anakin's betrayal.

However,this rule is a protective mechanism for her.

Ahsoka is pushing everyone aside.

She closes herself from anyone. That's why she refuse to teach Grogu. That's why she walked away from Sabine.

I think her main arc would be letting go, forgiveness and healing.

She said to Ezra that he must let go of Kanan,but did she let go of Anakin?

She must heal to continue her journey.

Let other people in her life after so much betrayls.

[flilisskywalker]

Hera: I see you two fell in love with idiots. Sabine and Bo: ... Hera: Well, don't wait for too long. He might sacrifice himself to save you from an explosion tomorrow.

[pedroacrossthestreet]

For 2024 I’m manifesting a sitcom spin off to the mandalorian.

it’s just domestic mando trying to get through the difficult teenage years with grogu having settled in their little home together.

Mando in an apron, cooking dinner, doing the hoovering.

Little man slamming doors, using the force.

Greef Karga getting applause every time he makes a cameo when he pops by for a cup of sugar.

That kinda thing.

[random-letters-i-just-thought-of]

I love Boba's and Fennec's dynamic so much! 

Boba randomly walked into her dying and decided to go all out to save her. When she woke up she just wanted to return the favor but then she kinda just stuck around because she realised Boba wouldn't last a day without her.

They both adopted each other. They are both convinced they are the sane ones of the duo. Nobody has any idea who's the older one. 

They are opposites. They are exactly the same. They are equals. They balance each other perfectly. Where Fennec is cold and harsh, Boba is warm and gentle. Where Boba is furios and emotional, Fennec is calm and calculated. He is fire, she's water. She's so competent it makes her look insane. He's so insane it makes him look competent. They are both deadly.

Yet, together they are found family. They become the cool supportive uncle and aunt to a queer teenage bike gang.

They are both perfect leaders. Yet, there's no rivalery whatsoever between them. 

They are both unconditionally devoted to each other. There's no romantic or sexuell intent at all. I love them. 

[foxykatie425]

You know, as much as I’d love Star Wars to bring Cal and Merrin into live action, I struggle to picture how they could do that without it being super deus ex machina.

Like one of Ashoka’s biggest problems as a series was its reliance on the audience being familiar with Star Wars Rebels, an ANIMATED series that didn’t necessarily have the same target audience as Ahsoka. And I don’t mean that in a derogatory way, I love Star Wars Rebels, but the simple fact is there are more people watching the live action shows than the animated shows.

So how could you possibly expect the majority of your audience for a live action tv show to be familiar characters from a video game series?? How do you effectively introduce these characters to an audience that hasn’t seen them before without having entirely too much exposition that would totally kill the pacing?

If they can find a way to do that well, then great, although we also run into the problem of spoilers. Because we’ve still got one more Jedi game coming, and that’s probably not gonna come out for another 3-4 years, if we’re lucky! I have to imagine that game is gonna be set sometime before A New Hope because they need to establish a reason why these characters are not major players in the OT and to a lesser extent Rebels. (Right now they can still go to and from Tanalorr, my theory is they’re gonna get stuck there somehow but that’s a discussion for another day.) If we’re keeping our live action shows in the post-ROTJ timeline, and Cal and Merrin get brought in, then you’ve spoiled the end of the third game. So realistically they just can’t bring them into live action until after that third game comes out. (Also I’ve heard Respawn is super protective of Cal as a character, which you know, who can blame them?)

This is simply my opinion based on my own speculation. I’d love to hear what other people think about this, but at the end of the day, as much as I’d love to see live action Cal and Merrin, I only want it if it’s done RIGHT! 🙃🤔

[jewishcissiekj]

It came out today so here are some of my favorite Ahsoka panels from The Mandalorian Season 2 #5 (The Jedi comic adaptation)

(Art by Georges Jeanty)

[inquisitor-apologist]

Best & most lesbian way they could end Sabine’s story is for her and Shin to continue their strange and toxic relationship through Ahsoka s2 and… *sigh* the mandoverse movie… and at the end, when she gets back to the galaxy, Ketsu is waiting for her at the spaceport like: yeah, I know it hasn’t worked out literally any of the times we’ve tried before, but I’ve been thinking about it, and I want to give us a seventh chance

And Sabine’s like: Yeah for sure babe, but I found a half-feral ex-darksider. Can we keep her?

[starwarsbookckub]

[jedi-valjean]

Seeing some Ahsoka fans poo-pooing on Andor for being "grimdark" and devoid of "everything that makes Star Wars Star Wars" and I just... When people compare Andor to Ahsoka, it's not because Andor is "unlike Star Wars" or "dark." That's definitely not why I like Andor so much.

Look, I LOVE Jedi stuff and aliens and droids and the Force and ALL those things. I'm not tired of them at all. I AM tired of Dave Filoni, of bad writing, and the implication that I can't enjoy a Star Wars concept that isn't packed to the brim with 'memberberries. And honestly, without Kiri Hart on the project, I don't trust Lucasfilm to do the Rebels characters justice. My bar is high BECAUSE I love Jedi and Mandalorians and the Ghost crew.

Honestly, I think complaining about the absence of Jedi in Star Wars media is as unproductive as complaining about their presence. How are they HANDLED? Are they implied to be corrupt and backward, or are they treated as the paragons they're supposed to be? What about their political influence? Are they treated like cops? A church? Both? Neither? How are their values and teachings depicted? How is the Force depicted?

I'd rather have a good Star Wars story without Jedi than a mediocre one with them, and I don't think Dave Filoni really gets the Jedi the way George intended them to be. And a story without Jedi doesn't mean pretending they don't exist. Look at Rogue One. The absence of the Jedi was keenly felt by the other characters, but the light of the Force was strong in them when they leaned on hope, showing that the ideals of the Jedi still meant something, that they hadn't failed, that the darkness could not conquer them even if every last one of them were wiped out (which we already know they weren't!) If Andor's dark, it's only because it begins in a dark time, a time we already know to be dark from other Star Wars media, including Rebels!

I just... Why do we need to sh*t on Andor just because some people like it better? Why do we need to claim it's "not Star Wars" just because there aren't any lightsabers in it (so far?) For heaven's sake, it's not as if Tony Gilroy is pretending the Jedi aren't a thing. Star Wars is HUGE. There's so much room to explore ALL its aspects, and so many WAYS to explore those aspects. You can judge Star Wars media however you like, but for the love of midi-chlorians, be honest about the criteria the people you disagree with are using. People don't love Andor because they hate the Jedi. I certainly don't.

[randomwritingguy]

Mandoverse didn't "save" Luke Skywalker.

Hot Take: Mandoverse didn't "save" Luke Skywalker. All he did in Mando S2 was look young and have a cool action scene. Don't get me wrong, I love that scene too, but no way did it "save" him. In fact, Mandoverse Luke acts even more out of character than ST Luke.

In Mando S2, Luke only showed up because of Grogu. He destroys the droids, walks in, take Grogu, and leaves. He doesn't ask if anyone is okay or if they need help or alert the New Republic of Moff Gideon and ensure he is taken into custody. Then in TBOBF, Luke pretty much makes Grogu remember his supressed memories of Order 66. Even though he asked, Luke would never do this. He would never let a baby relive traumatic memories. Then when Grogu chooses to go back to Din, Luke doesn't take him back himself but lets R2 do it which is completely irresponsible and something Luke would also never do. He knows how dangerous Tatooine is. R2 is good but he would would have gone with them to ensure Grogu's safe return. I know some of this is probably down to budget reasons with the deepfake but it just results in Luke acting OOC.

I'm sorry but there is no way you can get me to believe that ROTJ Luke, BF II Luke, and Mandoverse Luke are all the same person. Mandoverse Luke is more like Luuke.

[flilisskywalker]

I guess what keeps me up at night is asking what's the point of Sabine's search for Ezra, like... as an emotional arc.

(This text is an adaptation of the thread I wrote on Twitter)

Because when I rewatch the fourth season of Rebels, I get the impression that they are paired together in many episodes as a way to prepare us for a hurtful goodbye between the two at the end of the show, which is to me the same reason why they decided to go heavy on confirming Kanan and Hera's romance because they knew he was going to die.

I don't really know if the parallels between Sabezra and Kanera are intentional considering how Filoni talks about the former, but Ezra does become Kanan (even has a whole stretch arms sacrifice) and Sabine does become Hera (Deep grief for losing him) and not in a "The kid got this from his/her parent." sense, but in the sense of that the situation is really similar, which is interesting because it wasn't like this originally.

Ahsoka made Sabine's grief towards Ezra not being by her side all the time a thing.

Instead of simply letting Sabine's mission be about bringing Ezra home like in the original animated epilogue, Filoni complicates things a little bit by implying that Sabine is not doing this for Ezra, but for herself. Beyond that, almost every character notices how devoted she is to him and it even confuses some of them.

Thrawn, for example, has studied Sabine. He is well aware that Ezra is her compatriot and friend and yet... he is confused by her choice. Sabine states "You wouldn't understand." and then accepts to be stranded on Peridea just to see Ezra again. Once she found him and even after hearing he wants to get home, she did not say a word about Thrawn being his only ticket home. Instead, she simply enjoys time with him.

If you know Sabine Wren, you know that she would never ignore a huge Imperial threat and put in danger people like Hera, who is definitely an older sister type of role model to her, or feel that Ezra is the only family she has, so I do understand why people think she is very distant from the original show.

There might be a reason for all of this. A reason that I'm not sure Filoni wants to dive into, but the way he's been writing Sabine, the vagueness every time Ezra is the conversation's topic, feels like she has fallen in love with him during his absence and honestly? This makes far more sense than any other explanation.

We've seen in Star Wars before, fiction in general, that love is blind. Sabine's focus on finding Ezra is described by Baylan as something that blinds her. Not only this would justify her out of character attitude, but also the parallels with Kanan and Hera.

Star Wars live-action TV shows this year have been interesting to decode. In both The Mandalorian season 3 and Ahsoka season 1, there's a lot of subtle implications that characters want to build a life with somebody.

Mando does this in Chapter 22 - Guns For Hire, an episode surrounded by romantic love, where a droid bartender tells Din and Bo that human life is so short and then they look at each other. They want to be together, but that has not been verbalized yet. It is still very much in the subconscious.

Ahsoka does it in Part 7 - Dreams and Madness, by showing Sabine's lack of urgency regarding Thrawn and simply enjoying Ezra's company. It really implies that this was what her mission was all about: Be with Ezra. Her real desire is build a life with him, but that desire is still in the subconscious.

I believe Favreau knows all of that when it comes to Din and Bo.

BUT DOES FILONI KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES TO SABINE AND EZRA?

[inquisitorius-sin-bin]

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[hobbitkiller]

I really hope we get to see Sabine and Bo-Katan interact in some way in the Mandoverse.

I can only imagine how many conficting emotions they must have. Do they blame each other for the purge? Themselves? Does Sabine feels as guilty for giving Bo the Darksaber as Bo does for accepting it? How does Bo feel about Sabine becoming a Jedi? Was Bo the one who confirmed the Wrens were dead? Why were they on Mandalore and not Krownest?

My head canon is that Bo-Katan sees Sabine as a potential heir. She seemed willing to back her claim back in Rebels, and Sabine would be one of the better people to keep an eye on Grogu after she and Din are gone.

But, I can also see Bo as feeling Sabine betrayed Mandalore by giving her the Darksaber and then going back to the Rebellion.

I just really want more—comics, books, TV shows, I’ll take it however I can get it.