#misognoir

[saintsir4n]

Smoke and Annie were and look the same age. I know you lot aren't USED to seeing dark skinned Black women as love interests (especially plus sized ones) on screen but seriously, get a fucking grip. There was NOTHING to suggest she was any grown man's mama or sister. That is called bias.

[blackfilmmakers]

You're right, because why am I seeing everyone damn this woman for fighting while being pregnant, but Peter can just take his baby along dangerous chases no problem?

Spoilers down below:

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Bringing up these points again, yall sure do love placing double standards onto Black characters. Yall also have an obsession with seeing Black characters suffer immensely the moment they make a mistake. Like if any of Jessica's actions makes you feel she deserves to have her baby killed, then you're an awful person, and should stay away from Black people for our own safety. I don't care these are fictional characters, yall tell on yourselves with this stuff and it's terrifying

"Oh but Gwen is still a child, and Jessica is the adult here-" buddy these are Spiderpeople. If yall want the adults to take responsibility then they would stop all the minors from becoming superheroes in the first place. But then we wouldn't have our funny superhero movie with the funny teens I guess?

So yeah Gwen's circumstances are unfortunate, but she was still informed and given options. She was not tricked or deceived, they literally straight up told her what she needed to do and why. Gwen made those decisions herself. That's literally the point of the movie, Spiderpeople have to make tough decisions and aren't given the grace to think about it

But no, yall rather give Gwen benefit of the doubt but somehow, SOMEHOW, place blame onto MARGO implying she purposely sent Miles somewhere else. The character that barely got 7 min of screentime, unbelievable

Regardless, that's the unfortunate circumstances of being a Spiderman most the time. You are given all these responsibilities despite being so young. At some point you're desensitized after seeing a bunch of young heroes, yourself included. If that's still a concern for you, then you need to place that same standard onto Peter and Noir too

If seeing Jessica set boundaries for herself intimidated you? Cope

Can’t help but feel most people’s disdain towards Jessica is specifically how she didn’t fulfill that mammy role y’all so desperately wanted her to be

[cannibalfogdreams]

I still feel like its kinda important to remember Ambessa was still a child soldier? She's definitely not immune to judgement, but like ....I do genuinely feel like some of the takes going on right now are

...ABSOLUTE FUCKING SHITE.

She's not a bad mom all on her own, wait till we get to Noxus losers cuz OMG she's going to do a total 180 in your head when you see her competitors and you'll are gonna have to accept that Mel probably got the best Noxian mom that she could have gotten.

She might be the only Noxian to have ever told her child she loved them in the last century.

Anywhooooo, pop off my queen. I'd say fly high but as a spartan, I'm delusional and I play LoL. Who died? Not my blorbos!

[cinderellaenjoyer]

Biggest Pet Peeeve is when someone draws Calypso (usually from a request) but then immediately says they don't like her. You've gone through the effort to make her all pretty and you still have to say that you hate her?

[iftari]

bigger problems in the world but sabrina carpenters 'wanna try out some freaky positions...have u ever seen this one' has consistently been some of the most boring positions

[almacambiondaughterofsaleos]

Norbit is a problematic movie colorism misognoir fatphobia racism but this movie done some aspect better

1. Childhood friend to lover

Norbit and Kate despite their chemistry is very little atleast it doesn't come off as offensive or predatory. They actually known each other since childhood as friend grow up in the same orphanage. Stolitz on other hand paimon bought blitzo as a slave then stolas who can't get over his childhood love believe they have close relationship when they're not

2. Believable abuser

Rasputia and Stella they both are over the top abuser. Rasputia is the one far believable, she have power over norbit. She have family she have money everything even her husband work for her family. In the town everyone fear her. Stella i don't see any Noble fear of her presence, what power she have over stolas nothing. The way her family arranged their marriage with stolas it seem like Stella family below paimon

3, Likability on the character

Norbit he is definitely a loser and pathetic but he is kind. He show gratitude toward rasputia for helping him even though she put her to abuse he still try to make thing work. He is loyal to his wife until she show her true color, so he decided enough is enough. Stolas no effort all of that is off screen, he cheated on his wife as form revenge or because he's lonely. He didn't try to make things work he try make it more miserable. Does stolas shown any sign he was a decent person? No

Perfect contrast and summary.

[demani-dusk]

I really loved Babel or the Necessity of Violence a lot and I want to get some more of my own thoughts out.

What I liked: I mostly read/listen to/watch scifi/fantasy stories, and while I love scifi/fantasy for allegory and metaphor that can focus in on and provide sharp commentary on the real or how the hyper real can heighten the emotions of a real thing, it turns out it was very grounding to read a story about empire set in the actual British empire about people who would have been its actual victims. And even then, I really do love the fantastical elements of the setting and the way silverwork and translation convey the ideas and themes so well.

I like the way the premise of the story and the positions of the characters so clearly and directly conveys the exploitation and extraction of imperialism, the way educating and shaping Robin into an Oxford student is so deeply and inherently abusive. I love that actual real world translation work from the time fits so neatly into the story. Commentary on everything being translated into English but rarely would something be translated from one colonized language to another. Commentary on the way imperialists treat texts written by cultures they don't respect. It all works together so satisfyingly well.

Translation as a kind of magic, as a central theme is also just such a great tool for a writer to do fun and good writing stuff with. I love the way etymology and translations give weight and new layers of meaning to the text the way other literary devices might. It's a book where the thinness of any single language is part of the conceit of how the magic works and Kuang is like, supplementing the inherent thinness of language by offering the reader translations as supplement, trying to get *us* closer to the "realm of true meaning" as it were.

I love very much Robin's internal turmoil throughout the first 2/3 or so of the story. His love and hatred of Oxford. His inability to choose between his father and his brother. His fear, his wonder, his resentment. The way he feels extremely at home and never at home at Oxford. It's all done extremely well imo.

Things I'm less sure about:

I really wish Victoire were more fleshed out earlier in the book. I think what we get makes sense with the story being Robin's perspective, because Victoire and Letty are pretty much always together and Letty has a way of sucking all the air out of a room. But I still wish more room had been made for us to learn more about Victoire before the last act.

I would like to see a little more about sexism and Letty's relationship to feminism. We know she is very aware of the sexism she faces at Oxford but what does she think of suffragists? I can imagine white feminist Letty supporting women's suffrage and still not taking racism or imperialism seriously, and I can also imagine ivory tower rich girl Letty being entirely skeptical of addressing any social issue in a way that isn't about personally fighting to improve your own position, including sexism. I also think Victoire's experience of misognoir is relatively underexplored and that's too bad.

There's also this thing in the writing I'm not sure how I feel about. That is, there are a couple of intractable arguments characters have repeatedly on and off the page. I found myself not loving this as a reader, but I'm somewhat convinced that the way I didn't like it was that it effectively conveyed the boredom and discomfort of having the same argument over and over without making progress, and isn't that the book doing its job well? I still sort of feel like it would help to get these arguments in ways that highlight different character's perspectives each time or something. Or like, ifl having the same best reappear in a story you want the circumstances to change such that the thing happening feels importantly recontextualized, and I didn't always feel like this was happenijg. idk I'm not sure my instincts about this are good.

Anyway, it's a good book, I liked it a lot.

[kingmystrie]

Racist groomer serial killer straight white woman OC

[Img ID: Arrow pointing to art of my oc morningstar, text under the arrow reads "Probably also a Nazi tbh"]

Her name is Morningstar and im redesigning her when i say nazi her ei mean neo nazi to be extra clear. She's the villain of the series she represents white supremacy and how white women are creepy to me while im working my job for some reason. She's also transphobic, she calls Arnie a man and exudes misognoir.

She uses the fact she's a white woman to get away with murdering kids because nobody thinks she's dangerous because she's a white woman.

Does my explanation of this character explain enough to understand that her stupid design is abt how white people get away with crime and shit by *appearing* harmless? She hides her competent insidious nature behind a veneer of carefree idiocy she pretends to be incompetent, and so nobody bothers to stop her.

[whitemoonselena9b4t]

Misognoir is a real thing; reminder that black women face higher rates of domestic violence.

If you don't recognize this, then you're not a feminist; you're only a (usually) white woman who hates men.

Also, you hate non-white women, because all you ever talk about is "white feminism".

The only real feminism is intersectional.

PROTECT BLACK WOMEN AT ALL COSTS

[driathunderpaw]

You being black makes it worse. Yea you’re not racist but this is hella anti black, misogynistic, and misognoir. How dare you treat a black woman this way. Fictional or real don’t matter especially when the black femicide rates are incredibly high and increasin. Every 4.5 hours a black woman is killed and mainly by black men. You do not get to hide behind our race. Do better and stop this gross behavior. You obviously forgot where you came from and became just like cis black men. Makin black women your target and just to prop up a yt man. Nah this is disgraceful and I hope you use your writing talents better in the future an stop your misogynistic and misognoir ways. Until then people have every right to express how uncomfortable and how gross your works are. Do better and stop embarrassin the black community. Cause you really are showin that black men are in fact the weakest link in the community.

Everyone please stop harassing me. I literally wrote the same dynamic I wrote between Jayce and Viktor for Mel and Viktor. I am a black trans man. That is someone who grew up a black girl, the entire time finding comfort in being dehumanized because of trauma, I would wait for when the popular girls would ask to play with my hair because that was the one time I wasn't being bullied. No part of that was me trying to be racist. Mel is one of the few characters Viktor interacted with in season 1, thats the only reason I chose her. Viktor was just a serial killer who thinks of people as objects because serial killers are horrible people. He called Jayce his heart because all Jayce is to him is a backup heart. I added many warnings and you chose to read it still. I wrote that story to comfort myself and posted it to comfort people like me, you chose to read it, that is not my fault and it does not give you the right to harass me

+ proof I'm black so you don't think I'm lying

[mirandathemoon]

“Y’all had no issue burning down buildings when it was . . .” YES THE HELL WE DID. You think you know every white person? I am not okay with that, those were atrocities and so is burning down by doling a today? You are literally admitting it was wrong then but you doing it now is okay? You sound like such a hypocrite I can’t believe you dont realize how you sound. It wasn’t okay when they did it but good job assuming I’m okay with that just because I’m white and it’s not okay when BLM does it.

me: black people have been victims of systematic destruction of their property, culture, and bodies up to this day, and suffer long term genetic damage and health effects like cancer due to the system in which theyve been forced to live.  you: omg but not all whites! what about the white people?   youve asked me like three or four questions to the same effect and  at this point youre literally just harassing a black person to cope with your covertly racist tendencies. You’re hyper focusing on me because when white women feel like their sociological control is compromised (a new supreme court justice directly compromising your reproductive rights mayhaps?) they lash out by attempting to seem morally and generally superior. You’re the equivalent to a Karen yelling at a black man for walking his dog and minding his own business. And the only opinion you’ve solidified is that angry white people only exist when they cant get their way.  if youre looking for me to agree with you; it wont ever happen. if you’re looking for me to feel somehow obligated to prove my moral worthiness to you it wont happen. I genuinely hope someone throws a brick through your window.   Your opinions have 0 value to me due to your lack of education on the toll taken on black lives throughout centuries of oppression and your feeling of entitlement to capitalism and complacency as an end all solution.  if you want an apology, you can sit on a dick and spin I don’t owe you shit. 

[joyfullllives]

Not only did NoName respond to the pettiness of J. Cole but she refocused the conversation on what it ought to be.

NoName is the future.

NoName is right now.

[helz-belz]

Oh this is some Bullllshit!

With Alison's death, our recurring character body count is two and they were both WOC

Also, our only recurring Asian character is DEAD and can only appear in scenes when his white brother appears

I was already upset with Alison and Luther having a romance, considering the state of interracial (esp white/black) couples in media, and how desperately we need them, to have this one be incestuous was just so agonising

But they couldn't even commit to that? Like, they had to kill her off?

Also, to have this be the culmination of her white sister always feelings lesser than her is...... Hmmmm.... Questionable at best

Add to this the Klaus Dave thing and I'm not a happy chappy

[wolfertinger666]

I'm not transfem, but my heart really goes out for black transfems/trans women who are constantly talking about their experiences with transmisogyny/misognoir and their ideas on transfeminism only to clearly get overshadowed and socially isolated. i have met a lot of black trans women recently and they are the kindest ladies ever.

likewise as a black trans man, in my own personal experience, it's rough not only wanting to talk about racist degendering and how racism and transmisogyny overlaps along with black gender expression only to get shot down by white transmascs (who are probably transmeds or people who refuse to listen to other people's experiences) while those same guys use the existence of black trans men and weaponize it against people. it's exhausting.

It sucks that when black people vent or speak up about our issues especially without sugarcoating kindness towards white people, everyone just sees it and actively avoids listening.

but a white ally can say the exact same thing and these performative ass people will sit their asses down and be like "I am listening and learning"

[troubledworlddistortedmind]

ive been preeing the love xxxwhatever has been getting and shit from fans and other celebs and all right and Im not one to celebrate someones death so Ive been quiet, but like...its just really funny how many times ive seen people say “respect the dead” when others have expressed their opinons on his character and calling his abuse on others as “mistakes” or “flaws” but these same people have probably made countless jokes about other peoples deaths. First one I think of is Whitney Houstons death..where was her respect?

idk fam its making me feel weird inside

[whitemoonselena9b4t]

There are many instances when misogyny is worse for black women, and you'll see this refered to as misognoir. I'll leave it to black women to describe their experiences with this as compared with white women if they want to reblog.

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