#ml s6 speculation

[shadowuserannie]

Me when a character is Consistent slash you can visibly see a character flaw; Nathaniel struggling slightly with his temper/impulsivity/shortsightedness AGAIN that was shown in Reverser. Remember his very...empty-headed moment where he tore Marc's journal? And him still being upset and talking to Alix later at the Lourve?

(Side note--was very surprised to see his hair apparently being natural since his parents are both redheads?? But also poor Nathaniel doesn't have his best friend to rant to anymore since she's chilling everywhere and nowhere in time.)

I bet you at timestamp 15.05 HE WOULD HAVE TRANSFORMED RIGHT THERE AND THEN IF LADYBUG HADN'T ARRIVED. HIS MOM ATTACKED MARC.

Nathaniel can be shortsighted and that was why he got caught, because he left the script out (that being said, I feel like there's a genuine chance that he would've been incriminated either way if his parents/mom are the nosy type to search his stuff) and this was highlighted again along with his impulsivity when he transformed in front of Marc on a whim BECAUSE HE WANTED TO.

And it's just. Consistent character flaw I'm enjoying seeing so far, and how consequences play out. Not just how this temper might land him in trouble during combat in the future, but also what the impulse gay identity reveal may result in. This was ONE LONG POST-CREDIT AND BY GOSH WAS THE QUEER WORTH IT

I also just love when characters fight their parents with no hesitation because they're being pieces of shit. No need to convince Nathaniel to keep his powers unlike Penalteam's theme where the last heroes to be introduced rejected their Miraculous; he showed up ready to throw hands bsfr

[uptoolateart]

Anyone notice how many times Ladybug talked about herself in third person in the London Special?

As soon as she told that lie about Gabriel and Tomoe, she began separating herself from what she'd done. She's coping through dissociation.

Throughout S1-5, she and Adrien were on paths towards integration. They were learning to see that he already was Cat Noir and she already was Ladybug. The strength lay within all along.

But by being untrue, she's gone backwards, splitting her two selves rather than unifying them. She's attempting to compartmentalise Marinette's relationship with Adrien from Ladybug's...which is unworkable.

In a word...our girl is a mess. She's supposedly doing all this to protect Adrien - but who's protecting her?

[generalluxun]

You know, there's a lot of (appropriate) focus on Marinette in regards to the Big Secrets, but there is something on the *fallout* side that gets kind of overlooked.

First(briefly) I am fully in the 'It's marinette's responsibility as the protagonist/guardian/ladybug' to tell him. That out of the way...

When it does come out, if it all comes out. Adrien's going to lose his concept of family again.

Nathalie

Felix

Kagami

Marinette

Plagg

They all knew. They were all 'in' on it. His girlfriend. His foster mom. His cousin. His ex/situationship. His kwami.

There's no one he can effectively turn to that isn't already involved. Heck, even Luka is across the oceaan. His entire support system is going to collapse.

(Nino will be a bro but I don't think canon has established 'major emotional burdens' as Nino's forté)

I wonder what they will do. Odds are on a sweep-under-the-rug forgiveness speed run. If not though...

Will Adrien fall victim to Lila shenanigans?

Will he seek help from his one outside friend, Sublime?

Will he seek help from his oldest friend, Chloé?

Will he seek out new friends?

Will he isolate?

I am not saying all of these are good/equal options. I do think all are interesting to explore. Not only that, most of them give Marinette interesting situations to play off of.

The Lila-villain angle is obvious, but gives both Adrien and Marinette the least to work with.

Sublime, perfect Sublime, what a threat she could seem to Marinette, if Adrien were to turn to her. Even if both his and Sublime's intent was pure/platonic, Marinette would struggle I think.

Chloé! Isolated with no friends, only followers online. A sincere desire to be seen as helping, if only because she wants to reclaim lost friendship again. Utterly unequipped to help but trying her best in awful ways. It would let you see the roots of their childhood friendship and give Marinette soooo much to chew on. There's less of the 'steal your man' vibe that might come from Sublime, but *who* it is would add it's own flavor.

New friends would be fun, an entire friend group! Hey, the Quantic kids! They don't even need more screen time than an Aurore or a Mirielle, they just need to exist. They need to provide Adrien with a possibility of a life completely independent from Marinette and her friends. He gets to explore that and Marinette gets to grapple with that idea too. The fear of losing Adrien not *to any one person* but just to ... Another life.

Isolating is the least fun. It gives them both the least to work with. Unlesssss... He goes full time into Cat Noir persona. Adrien vanishes, and Cat Noir starts developing friendships hero-to-civilian with members of the cast. That puts lots of options on the table for who they might be with. Marinette has to grapple with both losing Adrien to ??? And with Cat Noir's new independence and connections.

[ijustliketoreadstuff]

Who are they?

Was talking with some baby Miraculers(ages 6-11) about Lila and how we older audiences are trying to figure out where she is in every episode and how she is appearing. I relayed to the kids some ideas the older audiences have, like how Lila could've given herself shapeshifting powers, or that the social media "ZOO" has a butterfly community Lila is a part of to better gather helpers.

While the whole Lila giving herself shapeshifting powers sounded interesting to them, they agreed Lila would not try the same thing she did back in the London special, when her plan to write down Ladybugs identity failed, something she couldn't remember while she was akumatizing herself.

However, the possibility of Lila having helpers peaked their little brains, but added that this butterfly community, if it does exist, may be far worse than we realize. Those moments when we saw someone in the background following the characters and writing things down, that wasn't Lila.

However, the person at the café in "Illustrihater" had to be Lila herself because of the chameleon themed drink ordered, which is what Lila is, the chameleon of the show.

As for how they think Lila is appearing in every episode and where, well, they think that aside from taking on a new identity to be in the school again, it's not a matter of finding her physically appearing in public , but rather, how she is able to follow people without actually being there. They think Lila does have helpers following the other characters around, but Lila herself is also there with them, without actually being there.

I asked them how they think that's possible for someone like Lila to accomplish this, but they explained to me that its not humanly possible, but it is entirely possible if she used the butterfly miraculous.

Compared to Monarch, Lila has done some time to figure out how she can use the butterfly miraculous in ways Gabriel never thought to think of. If she could figure out how to make antikumas that can be shot out of the akumatized villains to cancel out a heroes powers, then they think Lila might have learned how to make use of the butterfly miraculous simplest ability, creating akumas and form a telepathic connection with a person the akuma is attached to. They think Lila is attaching her ultrakumas to notebooks and sending them out with helpers to take around the city, allowing her to not only see and hear what their hearing, even talk with them when she decides to check up on her helpers progress, but to also tell them who to follow so she can send the akuma out of the notebook to akumatize that person she's chosen.

The reason they think this is because they have not seen how Lila sends out her akumas into the city. If she's already nearby, like at the school, she'll send out an akuma herself. Gabriel raised the butterflies in his mansion and sent them out through the window, but we always see them in Lila's lair, the French catacombs, a place that's miles upon miles deep underground, which means someone might be taking them outside for her when she's down there!

I asked them, "Why do you think people would be willing to help Lila even though she's a villain?", their response, "Because they think Monarch was a good guy and hate the heroes already(Reunion)", "A bad person can pretend their a good person, and that's what Lila does, A LOT"

My final question to them was, "So why is Lila writing again? and what's with the piles of notebooks in her lair?" They said, "Those aren't her notebooks, their her helpers" "She only writes the really good stuff from them if it helps her plan". But again, lets just wait and see what the show has to say.

This is just what they’re starting with. Other ideas they had were, these people are NOT associated with Lila, their actually from the council Nathalie and Gabriel were in, investigating Adrien’s friends. Another, they think Lila is forming a cult to worship her.

[wisteriasymphony]

Going by Lila's established pattern for aliases- I don't think she's Aglaé?

French flower name + Italian color surname. Aglaé is a genius of bees and it comes from the Greek word for beauty. So unless she's changed her MO... it's probably not Lila.

Ah, interesting! I heard somewhere that it was a species of butterfly, and then there were also the general arguments of her supposedly encouraging Aurore in the direction that led her to get akumatized + it being the clearest possible explanation as to why she was particularly in the episode as opposed to Aurore's conversation happening with anyone else.

Teechnically Aglaia odorata is a flowering plant, but I guess we can never know for sure how far the "flower name" rule stretches. I guess until we have a last name conformation, any speculation in that regard is off the table.

I've said it before, but my biggest fear surrounding Aglaé-as-Lila is that the difference in facial features will be explained by a prosthetic mask and the idea of that being animated terrifies me XD!

I think the ideal path for her character from my own perspective would be that she gets to retain her creepiness by acting as a thrall to Chrysalis of sorts in exchange for protection. That way they can show off more instances of Chrysalis being manipulative/displaying skill in getting others to do her bidding while also keeping Aglaé as her own person. I do really like the minor-minor antagonists in ML (Jalil, for instance), especially those whose motives don't directly involve Marinette, Adrien, or the wish, so I'd never pass up the opportunity for more of them.

[idleinteen]

Lila’s Wish Is the Same as the Council’s “Perfect World Project”

Let me explain..

We don’t know exactly what Lila’s wish was, only that whatever she asked for caused the universe to reset and start over. Well, if you think about it, for the universe to reset, her wish must have been something that changes the entire history of the Quanticverse. Lila’s wish was basically the Supreme’s universe.

(Don’t worry! This isn’t a theory that Lila is the Supreme and that the Shadybug universe is her wish. I 100% believe the Supreme is the evil version of Master Fu. My theory is that Lila wants to be like the Supreme.)

The reason the Supreme is who he is in the Re-verse isn’t because of a wish he made to Gimmi, but because he had contact with the Miraculous years ago. If Lila wished to become the ruler of the world and of the Miraculous, that would change everything, because things that happened years ago in the Quanticverse would be erased. Lila wasn’t trained to be a guardian like Master Fu, so the events of all six seasons wouldn’t have taken place, and so on.

With that in mind, we can assume that the Supreme of the Quanticverse (our Marinette and Adrien’s universe) is actually the Council we saw in El Toro de Piedra.

The people who are part of the Council probably want to become what the Supreme is in the Re-verse, and that’s what the “Perfect World Project” is all about.

At the end of Season 5, we see Lila being visited by something that appears in a blue light. In Revolution, Lila stole Tomoe’s computer. I don’t think Tomoe would just let that go, if it had valuable information, she’d definitely track it. That’s why I believe that the thing that visited Lila in her hideout was either Tomoe herself or someone from the Council, offering Lila the chance to help them get Ladybug and Chat Noir’s Miraculous and they let her keep the Butterfly Miraculous as an exchange.

With this in mind, the people spying on Marinette and her friends aren’t helping Lila; they’re helping the secret society, just like Lila is. That’s why Lila said: “You’ll know nothing about me. About us. About them.” talking about the people part of the Council.

Let’s also remember that Lila isn’t the only one who knows things about Gabriel. Tomoe knows even more, and it’s likely that the Council knows as well, including the identities of certain heroes like Pegasus, Ryuko, Viperion, Rena Rouge, Carapace, King Monkey, Bunnyx and Argos (Felix revealed his identity in the Diamond party which.. people in the Council were probably there).

If Lila is helping the Council, this could explain why Lila and the others are spying on Marinette’s entire friend group, not just Marinette and Adrien (who are the ones directly getting in the way of the Council’s plans by being together) because the members of Council realized that many of the heroes in the Miraculers team are in Adrien’s class, which could mean that everyone else in his class also has a Miraculous and two of them may even be Ladybug and Chat Noir. 

(Adrigami and the Alliance rings were probably the Council’s way of slowly making the Perfect World Project a reality. Adrien and Marinette’s relationship in Season 5 challenged the idea of everyone seeing Adrien and Kagami as the ideal couple. This was directly connected to Alliance, since they were the models for those rings, and that’s why people wanted them together so badly: the rings positioned them as the perfect couple. In that sense, Adrien and Marinette ruined the Council’s plans, because not everyone was being controlled by the secret society because of Adrienette’s relationship, like Marinette’s friend-group.)

There’s a strong chance that this season Tomoe or the Council will try to keep Adrien and Marinette apart, especially through characters like Vincent, who tried to damage Marinette’s reputation and convince everyone she doesn’t deserve Adrien in Revelator. And we know Vincent is being sponsored by Tomoe.

Another thing we have to keep in mind is that Sublime could be an obstacle for Adrienette. Considering how Marinette behaved throughout Sublimation, and how Ladybug by accident provoked Sublime’s fall which it lead for her prosthetics to break, causing Caroline’s akumatization while a mysterious guy was spying on them, it’s possible that this guy gave all the information he gathered to Tomoe. That could be the reason Tomoe took an interest in promoting Sublime and her family: the Council and Lila could use that information against Ladybug or use Sublime herself to break up Marinette and Adrien.

There’s also a real possibility that Kagami is the traitor many people believe exists within Ladybug’s team. Lila already managed to manipulate her into turning against Marinette. Plus, if her mother is part of the secret society and knows her daughter has a Miraculous (and if Lila is working with that society) it’s very likely that Tomoe would take advantage of all that and try to turn her own daughter against Ladybug.

Credit to @i-need-a-doctor-run for their amazing idea that inspired me to make my own theory! Your mind is awesome!

[afayebray]

I'm sure there's already a post about this but I am kind of psyched because this goes back to my theory I've had for awhile. Only I thought Emile (though we didn't know his name at the time) would be the head, potentially.

So, let's break down what each symbol is, what it could mean, and who they could be. If you disagree on any of these or have any ideas that I missed, please let me know!! (I'm definitely going to need to do/hear a voice comparison on a couple of the ones that spoke.)

1. Stylized eye--potentially visions/seer, have also seen it in relation to succubi in my reverse search, but the one I think is most likely is surveillance -- having eyes everywhere.

One of my other main theories of this season is that since Tomoe has been heavily implied to be the Quantic verse's Elon, she purchased or created Zoo and has someone helping her with surveilling and data mining the hell out of what the kids are posting. Tracking location settings would also explain why they almost always tend to show up/be near Marinette *or* someone who has posted about/been wronged by her.

With how much he's been in the episode, the amount of trouble he's caused, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if this is Vincent.

2. Bricks--obstacles, perseverance, conformity/loss of self, strength, "building" (as a verb), durability, security.

3. Quill--writing, creating, narrative, communication, etc. André Bourgeois? Could also be Bob.

4. Wheel--(wheel of) fortune, fate, progress, cycle of life, guidance. Never mind, I think this one is likely Bob Roth. With his obsession with fortune, desire for constant progress, and he's a manager/agent, so...guidance, supposedly.

5. Scepter--leader, ruler, sovereign--prior to finding out that they actually do exist and it's not just some theory that I've had, I assumed this would likely be Emil based on what we were told in "Representation".

6. Diamond--ol' Gabe ⚰️I want to update this to say that I absolutely love the backhandedness of having him be the Diamond. Someone that they saw as common, working class (coal) put under pressure and polished up to be something of value to them.

7. Wheat--known to symbolize the cycle of life and death, sacrifice, fertility, growth and renewal. // considering what we know of Nathalie, this seems fitting for her father/for what he expects her role to be.

8. Gear--we know this one is machine. Could also be used/translate as technology potentially. I didn't pay close enough attention to the voice at the time, but I can't imagine this is not Tomoe.

9. Theater masks--this one is pretty self-explanatory...the two extremes of the human psyche, showing the differing sides of emotions--both the "foolishness" of humans and darker ones like fear and sadness, I think. This is probably related to Cerise.

10. Sword--authority/nobility, honor/loyalty, protection/defense, truth/justice/righteousness, battle of good v. evil-- this particular sword is very reminiscent of Excalibur, I'm assuming this is Emil (or both GdVs) if the scepter is not him.

11. Fire--passion, transformation, destruction and renewal/cleansing, knowledge/enlightenment, revolution.

12. Molecule? (fairly certain this one is a molecule though I'm not 100%)--if I am correct, I'm assuming this one was Colt Fathom since he also had a tech company like Tomoe, but he was likely a military contractor based on his description in "Representation", creating bombs, missiles, etc. Basically, the Justin Hammer of Miraculous. I wouldn't be surprised if he had the monopoly on space flight prior to his death and Tsurugi only took over (including Claudie's trip) after the fact.

We have twelve of these and twelve Zodiac Miraculous, I'm assuming when Tomoe planned to improve them, and they had their "new world order"/cult with Adrien and Kagami as "world icons/idols" idea these were meant to take the place of the 12 Zodiacs. Thoughts?

Also, do we think that Mom #2 (the one that's high up at Style Queen and was in "Gabriel Agreste") is one? Or maybe Cerise took over for her? Do we think that anyone we saw in NY, Shanghai, etc. is part of it?

[wackus-bonkus-maximus]

In the special, why emonette couldn't make a wish? Was it because of Supreme leader?

hello october anon, i'm very sorry for the delay i've had such a time but believe me when i say toxigriffe hasn't left my brain. i'm about to give you so much more of an answer to what you asked (but dw there will be pictures)

so it looks like whatever seal plikki have on their mouths does belong to the supreme. and it appears that even in their true forms this seal still lasts.

and it's not just a block either. it seems like resisting actually hurts plikki, like a shock collar.

and then right after marinette makes the wish, the seal appears again beneath her feet.

whatever power the supreme has, it's more powerful than the wish. but what could have made the supreme so powerful to begin with? my theory is this: the supreme got a hold of the ladybug and black cat miraculous (maybe even the whole miracle box) and made a wish. we don't know what it was, but it seems that there's evidence enough to back up the inclusion of the clause that no one can supercede their wish. that's what makes them the supreme.

lets take a look at what the miracle box looks like in fu and then marinette's possesion:

and then here's the supreme's (from the intro), complete with their symbol and everything:

doesn't it look like the symbol of the order of the guardians?? just with an x superimposed over it??? and since fu had the lb & bc miraculouses at the start of the series, maybe this miracle box that the supreme acquired as the guardian also had those miraculous. that's how toxigriffe ended up getting their proper miraculous in the paris special!!

i think the intro is telling us a story of what happened, actually. first, the supreme got a hold of the miracle box. next, they made a wish. (i assume it's an image of the wish, given what the wish looked like in re-creation)

the image splits into hexagons, with the one with the wish happening forming in the center. i'm guessing all those other hexagons are parallel worlds, and this world in the center is the one the supreme became the supreme of

then we get an image of this person, who i assume is the supreme, given the giant x they are standing in front of - the same symbol that blocks the guardian insignia on the box and on plikki's mouths. like all the fractured worlds featured in the previous image, the supreme stands in the midst of fractured pieces of what looks like glass.

maybe all the shards represent worlds the supreme has tried to take over before, but failed to. maybe they are all the worlds the supreme has conquered already. or maybe the broken mirrors are meant to parallel the supreme to poor emonette, whose misuse of her powers (under the supreme's threat of her life) have fractured her body and soul.

but unlike emonette, the supreme doesn't have the miraculous of creation. the supreme isn't the girl who can fix anything.

SPEAKING OF WHICH, YOU WANNA KNOW WHO I THINK IT IS? (you know who i think it is!!)

to begin with, we get this sneak peek of the supreme's suit. those colors are unmistakeably purple and gray (and green but idk why that's there).

who know who else would have a purple suit?

YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE HAS AN X SHAPE?

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF RE-CREATION?

YOU KNOW WHO CAN GRANT UNIVERSE-HOPPING POWERS??????

the person with the butterfly miraculous, that's who.

maybe there's a reason the supreme wants the butterfly back so badly. the toxigriffe universe is a universe where the supreme doesn't have a complete miracle box after all. at least, it was when we left off.

but maybe s6 will change that.

[donsive]

The ruler was so so so so so so so so so so GOOOODDDDD OMGHHH. SUNHEART AND RAIN-PIERCER DESERVES A ACTUAL COMIC. I also love how we finally got to see their parents.(all the people who wait for nino will hopefully be happy) and also I think each episode is gonna have some parallel between adrien and marinette which I think means we are definitely getting the reveal and something is gonna happen in lady chaos and nemesis(I have a theory we are gonna see the chrysalis design finally and also see cerise Bianca in either ladychaos or nemesis)

[sadelizb]

oooooo frame from the WIP?????

[monpetitchattriste]

So in the first season of Miraculous we didn't know that Gabriel was Hawkmoth

But now we know Lila is going to be the new Hawkmoth

So what if at the start of season 6 they introduce a few new students to the class and WE DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IS LILA!!!!!!!!

[shadowuserannie]

That's the...second? Mind-control-related akuma we've had this season. Not so bad until you realize both akuma were in the Penalteam hero solo eps.

...So. Making a bet, will Marc's solo ep feature a mind-control akuma again?

(also excited for Nathaniel to show up as support for Marc since Marc showed up to support his bf plenty this ep)

Marc's episode is also likely going to focus on bullying or homophobia from others, rather than his parents since we've seen them and they're decently accepting. They liked the script which I assume included the gay kiss, and there were no comments on Marc's clothes or makeup. Also since Nath's episode touched on homophobia from one's family but acceptance from others so Marc should show the other side of that coin.

[uptoolateart]

Here's a whole bunch of initial thoughts I have after watching the London Special.

Time Travel

Speaking as someone who writes way too many stories involving time travel...there were a lot of holes in this special. Also, I appreciate that it's been 15 months since the S5 finale aired, and they probably wanted to remind us (and especially children) of the key moments...but some scene repetition felt like it was just there to pad out the episode length. But I'm gonna shrug all that off because of everything else this special did.

Lies, Lies and More Lies

I've not been quiet about how angry I was over Ladybug lying to Adrien and keeping vital secrets, in that S5 finale. I'm so glad to see that this special addressed that stuff. By the end, we see that both heroes are keeping secrets. Cat's identity has become more pertinent than never, and she has no idea.

Going Too Far

In their final conversation, Ladybug told Cat she worried she might have gone 'too far' this time. Throughout S5, we were repeatedly told no one has ever been able to handle unifying the miraculous like Marinette can. We also watched her change dramatically over that season. By the S5 finale, I felt like she'd become overpowered. In this special, I think she acknowledged that. Maybe she handed out the other miraculous because she realised she was in danger of becoming another Gabriel, e.g. making decisions about what's right for Adrien, etc.

Did She Make the Right Decision?

With no one else to turn to, Marinette asks Plagg and Tikki if she made the right decision. They don't tell her she's wrong, but they also seem very undecided. She also asks Bunnyx, who tells her that both paths - telling or not telling Adrien the truth - will lead to both happy and sad moments. This warns us that hard times are on their way. She wants to 'protect Adrien', but she can't. She can't keep him from pain. seems to suggest that Marinette's choice to keep the truth from him is going to lead to some hard times.

Kagami

Kagami intimated that she disagreed with Marinette's decision. When she comforted Adrien in the white room and told Bug Noire to go...that really hit me. There is so much going on there. Transformed, Marinette can't comfort Adrien. In fact, she's just hurt him, and Kagami is the only one in that scene able to help him pick up the pieces. Not just that, but Kagami can relate. Remember her name means 'mirror'. She's now in the position Adrien could be in, if he knew the truth. She's the one trying to come to terms with the truth about her parent. She's the one dealing with the knowledge that she's a sentibeing. She is an example of Adrien's alternate path. When she tells Bug Noire that she's letting her love for Adrien blind her...Kagami is speaking personally - as someone who can put herself in Adrien's shoes in a way Marinette just can't.

If I Could Turn Back Time

When Chrono Bug got that black cat calendar as a lucky charm, she must have known it meant Cat Noir was somehow the solution. But she ignored it. I think her emotions regarding Adrien blinded her from understanding what the universe was trying to tell her.

She and Bunnyx spent much of the episode trying to determine the crucial moment when things started spinning out of control - the moment they needed to change. Marinette focused on the revelation of her identity, which I'm sure was vital. BUT...the elephant in the room was the moment she chose to lie to Adrien. Standing in that time burrow, she had a chance to change the story she told him and undo everything that's on its way. Surely that cat calendar was hinting at this.

Kitten

I think it's telling that the cat on the calendar was a kitten. It felt like the universe was telling her there's something she isn't seeing in Cat - that he's more fragile and in need of nurturing than she acknowledges. When she sees him at the end, and he tells her he has his own awful secret - when he cries over it - she should be questioning why he's that eaten up about missing that final battle. What's his secret? Why's he so devastated? But she's too wrapped up in her own conundrum. Like in Cat Blanc, she's not 'listening'. For me, the most painful moment was when he tried to reassure her that things would be okay - now it'll be 'you and me again, just like old times'. She hasn't yet told him there's actually a huge team now. But they both must understand that the old times are well and truly gone.

The Truth Is Out There

We're now waiting for yet another reveal. Adrien and Marinette still have to find out they're Cat and Ladybug - but Adrien also has to find out the truth about his father. This special hammered it all in so hard that it's Chekhov's gun waiting to go off. What I wonder is if the writers had this angle in mind all along, or if they did this after they saw the fan reaction to that S5 finale. I suspect it's a bit of the latter, particularly because they also had Bunnyx explain that Marinette's reaction to Gabriel in the S5 finale was her getting the 'proof' that he was Monarch. Her reaction was one of many things we all questioned after that episode first aired, so I think the writers were trying to 'fix' things with this special. And I'm fine with that. I'm pleased that they're listening and not just moving on from this stuff / trying to sell it to us that lying to someone is 'the right thing to do'.

The Wild Card

At the end of S5, I thought it was clear that Lila had worked out Ladybug's identity. I assumed S6 would involve some vendetta against Marinette. This special demonstrated that would make things too easy, so they levelled the playing field. Lila doesn't know Ladybug's identity. But she does know Monarch was Gabriel. I think it's inevitable that at some point (probably not for ages, because the writers will want to string us along in suspense), she'll tell Adrien the truth about his father.

Cat Blanc

I think 'Cat Blanc', and Adrien's vision in the white room, were foreshadowing. In this special, we saw how angry Adrien was at Bug Noire when she told her story. He demanded to know why she couldn't save Gabriel. He seemed to have forgiven her by the end, but when he learns the truth, he's going to feel so betrayed. And when he breaks down...watch out, moon.

The Inevitable Break-Up

I think it's inevitable that Adrinette will break up...but only temporarily. When it all blows up, it could be the necessary turning point we've been waiting for, where they finally get on equal footing - where their relationship is based on honesty and total mutual respect.

Conclusion

Buckle up, guys. We're in for a bumpy ride - but I remain optimistic. After 15 crazy months, I'm finally no longer angry about the S5 finale.

[generalluxun]

S6 Chloé Speculation

Just has a realization this morning. Chloé's stardom almost certainly has to be a cover for bad stuff going on at home. Why?

Because otherwise the message is that after being away from André's 'care' for only two months, Chloé is positively flourishing. There's no way ML will let one of their stable of rich men look bad like that.

'We take a train wreck of a girl away from her father and gave her to her estranged and openly verbally abusive mother. Her spirits and drive markedly improved.'

I don't think they'll go with that. It would be funny(/neg) if they did though.

[ijustliketoreadstuff]

I don’t think Felix is in the same school as Chloe in London. In “Multiplication” it was revealed he was England’s youngest graduate, so he doesn’t go to any school anymore and may just be freely running around exploring the world just like his aunt Emelie did.

He could also be attending Ms. Bustiers school along with the others since it allows students the freedom to explore various classes that can help them learn new skills and figure out what they want to do in life, something Félix wanted for himself.

[trainsinanime]

ML theory that I haven’t fully developed yet: Lila is a sentimonster, and as a result, has some actual chameleonic powers. This also ties into why she wants the miraculous (somehow).

Now I know you have questions about the „how“ and „why“ of this and I have to admit that I don’t have any answers. I’m just putting it out there so in the highly unlikely case it gets proven right, I can point to this timestamped post and go „called it!“.