#neitzche

[redheadedfailgirl]

I just had a riveting discussion with a self proclaimed anarcho-capitalist at work, whose opinions included:

Tipping is bad because 'contracts with your employer are voluntary and they can leave if they're not paid enough.' He will still tip if he thinks his wife is watching

If you're stuck inside a torture chamber with an apple you can bite every ten seconds that sends you to paradise for a year, it is illogical to bite the apple and humanity is broken for thinking so

The ending to the good place was bad because the characters weren't being logical and there was so much shit you can do with the afterlife.

The marxist labor theory of value 'isn't true' because paintings have arbitrary value

Heidegger was an idiot

Kant was an idiot

Nietzche was an idiot

He is an anarcho-capitalist

If I don't have 100% certainty for something than I can't truly say that I know something is true, and isn't it illogical that people do that?

I have to see this man every Monday from now until I quit. We work one on one.

[slicedblackolives]

Revitalizing ask culture with one question: Favorite read so far this year and why?

I'll have to say lolita because it made me realise how much I've grown since I first read it at 15 (objectively pale fire is the more skillful novel).

[nicky999doors]

The fact that this is basically a proverb from the orange catholic bible is insane

[fwwm]

very annoying how crime and punishment’s reputation as scawy psychological dark Russian literature book has tainted all discussion of it

[pathologising]

I honestly don't think I have many bookshelf red flags truthfully any book that would be a red flag is in the pursuit of literary analysis and knowledge so like.....

[starberrysap]

is it a red flag or just a weird lesbian interest more at 11

[fishandships]

man everyone in IDV is so fucked up im glad at least comparatively Luchi seems to be doing oka--

..............nvm

[femboycatofmystery]

I have two modes:

1: SCIENCE

2: GAY

The switch sometimes gets stuck in the middle but that's basically it.

[rnalt]

guys i am so bored and youtube keeps giving me videos on why nietzsche hates everyone basically

[curtwilde]

Henry vs Julian

I have been thinking about this a lot. While Henry clearly admires and models his scholar self on Julian, their essential difference is in how they perceive the Ancient Greeks.

Julian's interest in the Ancient Greeks is true interest, he admires their high and exalted values. For him, the Greeks were the highest point of human civilization, and the closer he comes to his own time the more his disdain increases - the Roman Catholic Church he holds in contempt but it's still a 'worthy enemy' not as bad as the Presbyterian Church. It isn't mentioned but he must hold modernism and it's philosophy with disdain - modernist moral vacousness being a direct contradiction of the idealist values loyalty, honor, chastity etc. that were so exalted by the Greeks. Which is why he is always cherry picks, sees only what he wants to see, and invents what he can't - both for himself (his ambiguous involvement with the Isrami government) or for his students (encouraging Richard to lie about his life in California). Since he can't time travel back to Greece himself, he must try to live that life as much as he can and believe himself a character in a Greek play. But it comes, not from a place of wanting to escape his current reality, but true admiration of the ancient Greek way of seeing and doing things.

Henry is a true modernist. The monologue about feeling dead is central to his understanding his character:

Maybe it stems from his near death experience but he sees the world as inherently meaningless, God is dead and heaven and hell have been revealed to be man-made constructs, there is no punishment for evil and since there is no moral line. I think he subconsciously realised all of this before coming to Hampden, but to truly accept it would have been soul-crushing. So he tries to escape it by immersing himself in the Greeks, I imagine the absolutist values, vague representational ideas pertaining to each god might have interested him but really, it could have been anything else, the Medieval Age or the Victorians, anything. He just needed something to be obsessed with, to give meaning to his existence which he subconsciously knew to be meaningless. So is his adoration of Julian, he admired and wanted Julian's ability to almost half-live in another time when, in his view, things mattered more (we have divinity in our midst). It also explains the Bacchanal which is otherwise so out of character for him. The appeal was to escape the soul crushing knowledge of meaninglessness - even if for a while. To worship and call on Dinosiyus with the blind belief of the Ancient Greeks, a kind of belief that simply cannot exist anymore in the postmodern, post-Neitzche world. His harebrained plans also came from the same impulse, including the poison plan, and the one way ticket to Argentina.

I suspect that what subconsciously drove him to murder bunny, aside from the obvious fear of getting caught - is the same thing that drove Mersault to murder the Arab - it's the old existentialist question, if good and bad are relative and there is no punishment for evil, how far can one go? Bunny's murder was Henry's existentialist experiment with himself. And, I think in a way it confirmed for him what he already knew, they escaped unscathed and he didn't feel any of the fear or remorse he expected to feel. While it did give him the momentary sense of power, the feeling that he could now do whatever he wanted if he can be clever enough to not get caught, since he won't be punished for it otherwise. While it gave him enough courage to go get the girl he always wanted - it did confirm for him the inherent meaninglessness of the world. Also, conversely, Camilla could have been another experiment - something must matter, was it love? Camilla was the only girl he knew and he was fond of her - he may not even have thought of her romantically before considering he never cared to act on it in all the time he had known her. But either way, Julian's abandonment broke him.

Coming back to Julian, Julian's abandonment omakes perfect sense to me - he was disgusted by the modernist moral vacousness in his students. He himself was a moral man, but his morals operated on his own standards. He based it on the Greek sense of Honour, not the more modern sense of Justice. His basic instinct was the preservation of his own purity - he couldn't possibly keep on as their teacher. But also, to turn them in would be against his sense of honour - he must have very little respect for the police and law enforcement as institutions being the kind of person he is. Not to mention it would mean his having to be in frequent contact with the police and court. From his point of view atleast, leaving is the only thing he could have done, really.

For Henry however, he sees that his obsession with the Greeks as well as his admiration for Julian as the sham that it really was, is disillusioned with the world, shattered. Except for his fondness for Camilla he didn't really have anyone he loved, he saw his friends as pawns, wasn't close to his family, didn't have any goals in life with everything in his reach with his father's money - the only person he had really loved was Julian, and there he was betrayed. His obsession with the ancient Greeks was also thus tainted with Julian's betrayal - since it wasn't true interest at all, only a disguised attempt at escapism - it wavered and fell apart, and he didn't have a reason to live anymore.

.

Side note : Richard falls between the two. Like Julian, he had a real interest in the ancient Greeks, but he didn't put them on a pedestal like Julian did. He realised that like his own time, and like all other times in history the Greek civilization too had its own good and bad aspects, and he wanted to learn about it for its own sake. But he doesn't make it his life, or use it to escape his own reality - outside of his classes he was very much rooted in his own time.

[0rdinarythoughts]

زندگی کے عجائبات میں ایک عجوبہ یہ بھی ہے کہ انسان انکے ہاتھوں سے ہی تکلیف اٹھاتا ہے جن کیلئے وہ ہمیشہ دعائیں کرتا رہتا ہے کہ انہیں کوئی تکلیف نہ ہو۔

One of the wonders of life is that a man suffers from the hands of those for whom he always prays not to get hurt.

Fredrick Neitzche

[slicedblackolives]

welp guess I’m reading LOTR and all quiet after notes of a crocodile

[artisticexistential]

No because Clarice Lispector said, “Who has not asked himself at some time or another: am I a monster or is this what it means to be human?” and Florence Welch said, “But you have to satisfy the monster. The monster has loved you for longer than anybody else.” and Ocean Vuong said, “and what I really wanted to say was that a monster isn’t such a terrible thing to be.” and Helga Floros said, “I want to ask you which monster scared you the most as a kid.” and Mary Shelley said, “When I looked around, I saw and heard of none like me. Was I then a monster?” and Fredrich Neitzche said, “Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?” but he also said, “Throw roses into the abyss and say; ‘here’s my thanks to the monster that didn’t succeed in swallowing me alive.’” and Mark Manson said, “There are still monsters in the back of my mind, and there probably always will be, but they’re getting quieter now.”

[typewriterschoice]

"One of the wonders of life is that a man suffers from the hands of those for whom he always prays not to get hurt."

~Fredrick Neitzche

[crabanarchy]

"God is dead and me i also feel not so good" - neitzche

[sorcererpoet]

New Age Publisher Inner Traditions Thinks Fascists Are "Must Read"

As occultists, pagans, witches, magicians, and those adjacent, we need to always remember that people are actively promoting fascist literature, ideologies, and agendas in our communities.

Last year for Halloween, new age publisher Inner Traditions offered a special boxed set of the writings of "suprafascist" Julius Evola, whose explicitly racist, misogynistic, and antisemitic writings have seen an increased popularity with the rise of the far right -- especially far right occultists.

Evola seems to appeal to incel and traditionalist types who are upset that Neitzche isn't racist enough and Crowley is too effective of a magician, as well as fascists who want to obscure their racism in something that sounds esoteric and inspired. He's also frequently recommended in online occult forms by fascist recruiters who insist his magical teachings are vital and necessary to any aspiring magician.

Inner Traditions posted an ad for their fascist books on their FB page, and it became noticed by pagans, witches, and magicians that are not fascists, and who questioned the decision to publish and advertise the books, especially without the context of the fascism and racism of the author. Inner Traditions responded with a promise to have the translator of the books, Joscelyn Godwin, explain their position in a blog post, inviting critics to engage with that post.

The blog post was promised in a week's time. It did not appear for over a month. It was not written by Godwin, who writes articles praising Evola for the far-right conspiracy magazine New Dawn, but couldn't be bothered to articulate to value of Evola to people who aren't already fascists. It did not actually address any of the criticism brought up in the FB thread, instead complaining that commenters were mean. And, most tellingly, the blog does not allow for comments, and the post was not shared to the publisher's FB page where critics could comment and "engage with [the] material."

I suppose that this response, though cowardly and intellectually dishonest, was really the best option for Inner Traditions: ignore the problem and hope it fades away, while continuing to profit from spreading fascist material that is becoming more influential in an increasingly reactionary world.