#nonbinary van palmer

[perseph0ne-13]

amazing things happening in my lottienat long-fic

[yellowjacketslesbian]

liv just used they/them pronouns for van on a podcast!!!!!! THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!! as a nonbinary van palmer truther I will be insufferable about this

[deadcabinguy]

i demand more trans van content

[adhdkiramman]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Yellowjackets (TV) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Vanessa "Van" Palmer/Taissa Turner, Vanessa "Van" Palmer & Taissa Turner, Mostly just mentioned - Relationship Characters: Vanessa "Van" Palmer, Taissa Turner Additional Tags: Van character study, post wolf attack, van has nightmares and daddy issues, And Mommy Issues, this is lowkey sad im sorry, tw for suicidal ideation sort of??, a very brief and vague mention of it in the ending but, van uses they/them pronouns, its not rlly acknowledged it just Is Summary:

Van had never had great temperature regulation, especially asleep, and waking up slick and sticky with sweat felt too familiar to being covered in their own blood.

Taissa didn’t notice how they’d begun sleeping with only one blanket, or they didn’t think she did.

But they must have been wrong, because tonight Van wakes up burning hot, screaming and swearing that they’re dripping in their own blood. That they’re burning on a pyre of their own bones.

[buzzbuzzwhs]

I saw this post of this get to know me, and did my taivan thoughts.

[lovelyy-moonlight]

[vanpalmersgf]

message from Liv following the presidential inauguration today🏳️‍🌈☺️🏳️‍⚧️

[jaxieshauna]

when i tell you you were born and you are here for a reason

you are not convinced the reason is a good one

[schrodingerspsycho]

[cheeseboi4life]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/51427033

This fic though… so good

[meeksonfilm]

thinking about the topic of un-earned deaths in media and van palmer is another example of this i think. though their death was Almost There but not quite. having them die at the hands of melissa instead of at the hands of something truly inescapable like their cancer was a huge miss for me. having them die to bring the real love of their life back though was the best part of it, and i think we could've kept that and added even more emotional damage with van succumbing to their cancer. add onto that, tai being forced to accept what she can't change. van's death was inevitable and no amount of "sacrifice" would change that.

[stuckinthefigtree]

guys i don’t think you understand…

[yellowjacketslesbian]

hi jo! i saw someone shit on the idea of van as a nonbinary butch today and as one myself it made me upset. I love your fics and how you write van so I was wondering if you had any headcanons about van being gnc / nonbinary?

hey! first off, I'm really sorry you saw someone reacting negatively to the idea of nonbinary butch Van. I know it can be really frustrating and upsetting to see someone getting offended at the idea of a fictional character possibly having a similar identity as you. it's like "what's wrong with my identity that makes you deny this character I love and relate to could also be a nonbinary butch lesbian?" (spoiler alert: nothing is wrong with being a nonbinary butch lesbian, some people are just very loud and very wrong)

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! it truly means a lot to know that people like what I write. I'm especially glad that the fics I've written dealing with Van's gender have been well received, and that people could feel seen by them!

I could write multiple essays on Van's gender and why I personally believe they're nonbinary (and why they're already canonically butch), but I'll confine this to just my top nonbinary Van hcs lol

if they had lost states and never gotten on the plane, Van would've gotten a scholarship to NYU and double majored in film and women's & gender studies. They would've become aware of Gender Trouble and Stone Butch Blues through their major, and they also would've met more gnc people in NYC. This would've led to their realization that there are other people like them who share similar experiences. I personally think it would've taken them a year or two to talk to Taissa about it because they didn't want to "burden her with it" (typical Van), but Tai would've been really accepting and went out of her way to read about gender identity and try really hard to understand Van's experiences once they told her. I don't think Van would've been out as nonbinary to anyone besides Tai and close friends until like the early 00s though.

in "canon" where the crash happens, I think it would've taken Van a lot longer to realize they even could be nonbinary. like they had so much trauma to work through, and just surviving was probably a struggle for them. I can really see them spending at least a decade just ignoring any dysphoria they had. they probably also didn't have the same exposure to information about being nonbinary back in the late 90s / early 00s, especially if they weren't living in a very queer area or around academia. I think one of the queer college kids who helped out around their store eventually came out to them as nonbinary in the late 00s. then Van researched being nonbinary so they could be there for them, and that's how Van finally realized they're actually nonbinary.

I think Van would've spent some time exploring what pronouns felt right for them after realizing they're nonbinary, but they would eventually use they/them or they/she by the present day.

I think Van had top surgery in the late 00s in the no crash universe and in the mid-2010s in the "canon" universe

I think that Van's dysphoria is mostly social dysphoria, but I do think they have top dysphoria. I personally read Van's boob jokes in S1 as using humor to deflect from some dysphoria they may have been experiencing at the time. (as a nonbinary lesbian, it reminded me a lot of how I personally dealt with my own dysphoria when I was about Van's age and hadn't yet realized it was dysphoria)

Lastly

important note: all of this is purely my own hcs and opinions, and I am not claiming to know what they will or won't explore canonically on the show. that being said, I am a nonbinary butch lesbian and personally see a lot of myself and my own experiences in Van, and many other nonbinary lesbians also see themselves in Van. we all have every right to hc Van as nonbinary. if you don't like it, you can politely fuck off

[deadcabinguy]

save me he/they van palmer save me

[helzindas]

my guy

[futabapunk]

I hope adult Kat has a similar vibe to her in Tape 2.