#not when it comes to riverdale

[thekatebridgerton]

I was thinking about something, Anthony got the chance to do a ROYAL MESS and quite much got away with it bc there wasn't real consecuenses for his actions, I mean, if he can do that, are the stakes for Benophie no longer that big? if the queen is gonna forvige anything you do no matter how big and scandalous then what would stop them?

to see my thoughts on the Kanthony comment anon, see my previous post.

I'd like to like to point out that Netflix isn't known for staying faithful to the source material anyway, so they can make up as many stakes as they want for the Benophie season. It's what they did for the Kanthony season and what I fully expect them to do for the Polin season. As in, dramatize as much as possible the consequences of them being together as an excuse for having the couple share very little screen time.

Maybe this time, instead of Sophie just being illegitimate and a maid, the show will dramatize Araminta's accusation of Theving as big as possible. So now, the problem isn't that Benedict is marrying a commoner, it's that he's contemplating marrying a thief running from *puts on reading glasses* Araminta and the queen?

Maybe Sophie stole something from the queen. Yeah. that would raise the stakes.

But don't worry, even if she's illegitimate, or a commoner, or a thief, or murdered Cavander on her way out. We can always count on Queen C handing out royal pardons like they're nothing. But only after the couple suffers quite a lot for the viewers entertainment and pleasure.

Who knows, maybe for the Benophie season, it will be the king handing out the royal pardon in one of his moments of lucidity. Maybe she's discovered to be the illegitimate child of one of his beloved female relatives who disappeared for some mysterious reason. And Ben and Sophie can now live happily ever after with cero consequences for their shenanigans.

Lets admit it, we all want our main characters to be happy no matter into how much trouble they get. I don't see the problem with having the queen as basically a magic fairy that waves away everything bad at the end of the season. I try not to think about it too much because I understand that Bridgerton only has so much ammount of screentime to resolve a plotline before a small plot hole becomes a storyline error.

If my favorite characters actually suffered consequences, then Bridgerton would be *shudders* realistic...

Which is something nobody wants to see in the show where women wear plastic tiaras and 21st century makeup to a regency ball. Does it bother me a little bit that Eloise could rock up to a neighborhood even her servants were afrid of, wearing her gucci best without consequences? yes it does. But that situation also bothers me in the Titanic, where rose and jack dance among the commoners without a care of the fact that Rose wealthy outfit is attracting stares. That doesn't make me enjoy the Titanic any less.

Does it bother me that Thomas got away with ruining Hanna and Colin's wedding at the last minute when he declared his love for Hanna in Made of Honor? Well, yes, a little bit, if the movie had been made for realistic purposes, Thomas would have paid Colin and his family all they invested in that wedding that never was. I mean, come on, if the guy spoke up sooner Colin and Hanna could have gotten the venue deposit back (were venue deposits still a thing in 2008?). That doesn't mean I don't enjoy and laugh at Patric Dempsey every single time he tries to pull off some mad scheme to get Hanna's attention.

That sentiment also applies to Edwina and Anthony's wedding. And I really hope that off camera Anthony offered to pay the queen back all she invested in the cake, the venue, the caterers and the music. But that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the fact that Kate and Anthony got away with things scot free, since I as the viewer want to see the happy ending anyway, even if the plot device used to get the happy ending is flimsy and poorly executed, as it was with Queen Charlotte's royal 'they can do whatever they want because they are inlove' decree.

If I wanted realism I would be watching the news. Now bring back the days where Marvel Superheroes didn't die please. I miss black widow. Not every screenwriter needs to be George RR I-kill-you-faves-for-shock-value Martin (JK, we love you GRRM, please finish Winds of WInter)

My point is, don't let stuff like that ruin your enjoyment of a show that's perfectly good on its own. Bad writing and all, Bridgerton is fun to watch.

And that's the tea

[mean-vampyre]

[ylissebian]

caught up this week right in time for the start of season 5… we’re so back

[greatkateweathermachine]

the funniest part of the whole "jughead commissions a ten foot tall statue of archie shirtless" thing isn't even that jughead did that in the first place, it's that he was trying to get that statue put up in a public park and was devastated when that didn't happen

[imreallyloveleee]

Where do you think it all went wrong with Riverdale?

honestly, part of me is like, the show's over and nothing but fandom matters. so who cares?

the other part of me loves to complain about Riverdale and will continue to do so until the day I die in the parking lot of Michael's Diner in Montgomeryville, PA at the age of 86. so, long-winded answer under the cut

I'm tempted to say it's the s4 b*rchie kiss. It was so wildly out of character for both Betty and Archie that it's laughable. You know how you can tell when something is just blatantly OOC with no justification? They...don't justify it. They find ways to dance around any interaction that might offer clarification. They mute the reactions of the characters who should be devastated by it. And then they jump ahead 7 years so it's easier to just handwave it away as something that happened a long time ago.

but the thing is, I did keep watching after that. I thought: okay, at least we should get an exes-to-lovers arc out of this, which is one of my favorite tropes. there is no way they would spend 4 seasons developing Bughead as this loving, supportive, communicative, sexy, and almost-unbelievably-compatible couple just to tear them apart and never do anything with that dynamic again. maybe it'll be even sweeter seeing them come back together after so much hurt and longing.

boy was i wrong!!!!!!!!!

so, the episode that actually made me stop watching for good, with the exception of some standalones like The Jughead Paradox and the finale, was the s5 musical. that was when i realized that this team of writers was 100% willing, maybe even eager, to completely drop storylines they themselves had been building over the course of a season - do a 180 with all of the characterization and relationships - and then act as though the buildup they wrote never even happened.

in this case, i'm specifically talking about the Bughead reunion storyline they dropped in s5. i'm not going to pretend like it was a GREAT buildup - and it was mostly on Jughead's side, Betty's character in s5 was basically an emotionless misery bot that had sex sometimes - but it was there. Jughead told Tabitha he had unresolved feelings around Betty. that's followed by an entire episode that lays out Betty & Jug's time jump relationship, and how Jughead still believes she's the one who saves him from himself. they work on a case together, they start opening up to one another. Jughead's so worried about her he can't eat.

and then...you know what happens.

(i'll also note here that there was random bts stuff that strongly indicated the musical ep storyline had a drastic last-minute rewrite: lili tweeted a blue dress, suggesting the song with that line was meant for her character; RAS said cole had to do last-minute recording sessions; supposedly crew members have confirmed this was the case, too. since none of it's 100% confirmed you can take it all with a grain of salt, but i believe it.)

it was so fucking insulting as a viewer to give my time and attention to a show made by people who would not only randomly drop the threads they set up, but torpedo them altogether, and then behave like the fans are the ones somehow at fault for expecting a story that actually follows through on its own emotional and plot beats. we're just shippers, so our opinions are dumb and biased! it's just a tv show, so who cares! get over it!

so, i stopped watching, because i knew they would continue to write without any thought or respect for their characters or their audience, and therefore inevitably write themselves into another corner. and, shocker, i was right. they did it again, whisking everyone away to the 1950s because actually resolving any of the scenarios they set up was ToO hArD. why bother when you could just make every single character Righteously Angry and Incurably Horny all the time, lecture the audience about social issues that have already been mainstream progressive for the last several decades, and call it a "love letter" to your fans?

[armands-pussy]

yall remember riverdale? I wish that show never ended I wish it spiraled supernatural style into 15 seasons of hideous queerbait I wish everything got more and more and more insane I MISS THIS SHOW SO MUCH

[shhhhimwatchingthis]

ok yeah, I'm willing to put Young Royals up as one of, if not the best teen drama ever written

and not just writing! cinematography, costumes, music, performances! this show truly is a masterpiece

[godheadjones]

idk. canon aro jughead brainrot

[arsenicpanda]

Riverdale season 7 should have been about Tabitha going through different timelines, maybe with Jughead as her assistant (very Jughead’s Time Police), as she tries to untangle things, and as she does, she takes everyone with her through various decades of Archie Comics, not just the 50s

[fyeahvarchie]

[thetaoofbetty]

after all the nonsense we had to hear about showers and scenes™ since the trailer of s5, the beggie one in the promo is personally satisfying to me

[mean-vampyre]

riverdale making jarchie longcon canon whilst being the last big teen show by the cw before it started dying and went bankrupt, would feel soooo celestial mystical karmic. the gay plot twist that was prophesized since the beginning of fandom, where so many other giants have failed and queerbaited, riverdale could stan victorious and proud by pulling the longest and bravest con. jarchie truthers stand strong

[jancysmixtape]

Ships that start off with the girl crushing on the boy, within the first episode, are always the most boring to me. I enjoy ships where both characters weren’t expecting to fall in love, but the more they spend time together, they come to realize the feelings they have for the other. I love watching ships where both fall in love gradually rather than already seeing one showing interest in ep 1.

[riverdale-retread]

As the only S. Korean passport holder in Riverdale fandom on this website I would officially like to thank Riverdale on behalf of my people for addressing an important aspect of anti-Asian racism by having 1955 Veronica Lodge, a Latina virgin, tell Kevin Keller, a white gay man, that she can tell that Reggie Mantle, whose nonstandard last name is never explained, has a dick the size of a whale.

[isys777]

PFFT well that didn't last long did it?

[spasar]

riverdale finale HUGE win for archiecomic scholars presumably huge loss for riverdale fans I don't know. I don't care