#porphyr-

[sawyer-is-eepy]

day 4 of campfire fest!! had an hour before the day ended by the time i finished this... shaknsbsjsbsn

(( @outerwilds-events ))

i got a fic idea literally yesterday so i'll just write it later if i decide i want to actually do it, but i didn't have time to before today ended so i just decided to do art based on this idea anyways.

very early game spoiler under cut

time loop hardly counts as spoilers but it's important to me that people don't get that spoiler

don't ask how hatchling would be able to make sap wine in the time loop, my explanation is that uhmm actually the loop will be a full day and uhh they didn't make it properly to save time. yeah, yeah that... makes sense. idk i just need porphy to have that extraterrestrial sapwine. i'll bend the rules to give them that

[philoursmars]

Louvre-Lens : il y a une expo : “Mondes souterrains : 20.000 Lieux sous la terre”. la suite et fin.

pendentif, Saint Janvier bénissant et tenant des burettes - Naples, XVIIIe s.

Fac-simile (bon, on s'y attendait) du ''Régent'', diamant de la Couronne

Johann Daniel Mayer - coupe en argent, jaspe, rubis, or… - 1660

Philippe Caffieri - coupe en porphyre - 1750

les 2 derniers : bustes d'empereurs romains (dont la tête est en jaspe, calcédoine, agate, cornaline, cristal de roche,...) - Rome, 1750

[psikonauti]

Charles Desains (French, 1789-1862)

Femme asphyxiée, 1822

Oil on canvas

[gingermintpepper]

What’s the significance of each color in Ancient Greece? So green is the only neutral color and it represents mostly natural and earthy things, thank you for telling me that part !! Anyway, as for my Hyacinthus design’s hair being brown, it’s due to the combination of it being a fairly common interpretation of his appearance and also because I find I like how it looks with his skin tone and the purple of his eyes.

Okay, firstly; thank you so much for answering my question too!

Admittedly you can't beat out good, old fashioned colour theory so that's completely fair haha! I still think it's very interesting that brown became the common interpretation of his features so I'm always glad to hear other people's view on it <3

With respect to what colours meant or symbolised in Ancient Greece, it's a super fascinating topic because the Ancient Greeks had a very different perception of colour than how a lot of people - and in this case I'll generalise and say english-speaking people - perceive colour. In a lot of languages, especially older ones, colour wasn't just a way to describe the physical perceptional reality of an observable object (that is, the light reflecting off the object that gives it its perceived hue - the way we perceive colour now) but colour was also used to describe the way in which the people experienced the world. A really good way to think about it is now, if you wanted to distinguish between two types of blue, you would instinctively make a distinction between their shades ("This blue is darker/lighter!") whereas these older people would distinguish based on things in their present, shared world that best matched what they were being asked to describe ("This blue is like the sky/the sea!")

That's an important concept to keep in mind because ancient greek was very unique in that, in addition to this concept of colour being completely intertwined with physical objects (and therefore also acquiring the properties of these objects in the minds of the people), the ancient greeks also did not particularly care about distinguishing between different colour hues (that is, differences in specific individual colour) but rather they were entirely focused on a colour's value - that is, whether it was considered light or dark.

Taking all of this into consideration, the question 'what is the significance of the different colours in Ancient Greece' is a bit of a tricky one to answer because unlike say, Ancient Egyptian which has very clear colours (red, white, green), very clear physical objects that give those colours their property (the desert sand, the sun, people's skin) and very clear symbolic meanings that arose from the natures ascribed to those physical objects due to their influence on the people's lives (hostility, power, new life), Ancient Greece's colours and the perception of those colours was much more abstract and poetic, contingent on their understandings and perceptions of things like light and dark, the sense of touch or taste (sweet and bitter/wet and dry) and what quality was ascribed to the object whose colour is being perceived. Colour was a matter of cosmology, of philosophy and there were many different schools of thought on it from Empedocles' physicalist theories to Anaxagoras' realist theories.

All of this is to say, take the meanings I outlined in this handy-dandy table with a tablespoon of salt! These are based on my understanding of the language used to describe things in classical writings that have survived and my own bias towards Empedocles' physicalist theory of colour and the nature of colour which I also think is very useful for people into greek mythology as a whole due to it making clear links between various gods creating things from mixtures of the four basic elements of nature and the colours that are the result of these mixtures.

I hope this helps even a little and I very much encourage you to do some research into different Greek schools of thought when it comes to colour and the perception of colour as well as how colour affects/reflects the innate nature of all things!

(Also, slight extra note, I left out Kokkinos (scarlet/blood-red) from the table because I didn't really think it was relevant for this outline despite it definitely being an ancient colour. It's a bit difficult to find examples of it with the kind of descriptors Empedocles outlines and I don't want to make assumptions based on third hand knowledge on the greek concept of the nature of things. I'd like to believe it was addressed in more detail in Empedocles' original document - only a fragment of the original some two thousand lines have survived after all - it is confirmed that Empedocles spoke on the recipe for blood and flesh, an equal mixture of all four elements as opposed to bones' four parts fire, two parts earth and two parts water (which is why bones shine white, there's more fire than earth or water) - and I don't want to conject or make assumptions.

I also left out Erythros or basic/primary red according to Plato's list of basic colours because that seemed to have specifically been preferred by Egyptian Greeks according to linguistic data. If I opened up that can of worms with respect to the shared Egyptian-Greek colour language including the way the Greeks like many early peoples did not culturally perceive blue until the invention of Egypt's blue dyes then I would be writing forever and you would never get an actual clear answer about Greek colour symbolism separate and apart from Egyptian cultural influence lmfao. )

A few of the documents that helped me consolidate this information include Sassi's 2022 Philosophical Theories of Colour in Ancient Greek Thought and Ierodiakonou's Empedocles on Colour and Colour Vision. There are also a fair few translations and discussions of the fragments of Empedocles' On Nature still floating about - my copy is a somewhat archaic volume of Leonard's 1908 translation but I never went out searching for updated interpretations and translations of the text since its constantly referenced in perceptional philosophy papers LOL

Anyway, yeah, hope this helps! :D

[knightofleo]

[detournementsmineurs]

“Aiguière” de Zegher van Steynemolen Flandres en porphyre vert et montures en vermeil (1468-1491) présentée à l'exposition "Trésors Médiévaux du V&A : Quand les Anglais Parlaient Français" à l'Hôtel de la Marine, Place de la Concorde, Paris, décembre 2023.

[thewondermentofillustration]

La légende de Saint Hubert Hubert jadis etait sous les lois au démeon, quand un grand cerf luifit un effrayant sermon. Devenu saint, il negligea les belles. mais il devint grand chasseur de renom. Ason exemple, aimis, soyons fideles, chassons le cerf et non le cotillon.

The legend of Saint Hubert St. Hubert was once under the laws of Demeon, when a great stag gave him a frightening sermon. He became a saint and neglected the beautiful ones. but he became a great hunter of renown. As his example, let's be faithful, let's hunt the stag and not the petticoat.     -- Joseph Porphyre, Le Rire (The Laugh; French comic)

[belphieslilcow]

THEY'RE LITERALLY CALLING IT VAMPIRITIS??? WHAT THE FUCK

[mounadiloun]

Gaza est aussi le lieu d'un génocide culturel

Un génocide, comme celui qui est en cours à Gaza, a plusieurs facettes dont la principale est évidemment l’élimination physique d’un peuple, soit en donnant la mort, soit en forçant à la dispersion. Parce qu’un peuple peut être aussi anéanti par la dispersion et l’élimination de tout ce qui fait ses racines: édifices à caractère patrimonial, de nature cultuelle ou non, institutions de formation…

[michaeldemanega]

Technische Gesteinskunde und Geologie in Südtirol

Gestein ist ein natürlich vorkommendes, mehr oder weniger festes, mikroskopisch heterogenes Gemisch aus Mineralkörnern, organischen und anorganischen Bestandteilen und Gesteinsbruchstücken. Aufgrund sehr unterschiedlicher geologischer Entstehungsgeschichten und Mechanismen sind die Eigenschaften lokal naturgemäß sehr unterschiedlich. Grundsätzlich ist von magmatischen Gesteinen, von metamorphen…

[idontliketomatoesleavemealone]

THIS IS TOO MUCH ISSUE, GEORGE

[philoursmars]

Douai (Nord), le Musée de la Chartreuse. Une visite pour la Nuit des Musées.

pendule à l'étude - 1805

Albert Bouquillon : "L'Ethiopienne"

Henry Serrur : "Mort d'un soldat grec à la prise de Tripolitza"

François-Louis Français : "Sentier dans les blés"

couperet de guillotine - Douai, 1813-1870

Jules Scalbert : "Les Trois Âges"

Louis Watteau : "La famille du Grand Gayant de Douai"

Georges Barnetche: "'Vue de Douai"

[opwegnaarbornem]

Lessines - Marche au Pays du Porphyre

Mooie wandeling in de geboortestad Lessen / Lessines van René Magritte.

Het ging vandaag opnieuw richting Wallonië, net over de taalgrens. Het stadje Lessen die blijkbaar de geboortestad is van de beroemde surrealistische schilder René Magritte. Nooit te oud om bij te leren. Zelfs in eigen land zullen weinig mensen dit zomaar los uit de pols geweten hebben. Voor mij zijn beroemdste werk is “Ceci c’est ne pas une pipe” . Ik denk velen met mij. Midden een fietspad was…

[coffeenewstom]

Samiotisches Kaffee-Tagebuch: des Kloster Panagia Spiliani und die Höhle der Sibylle

Samiotisches Kaffee-Tagebuch: des Kloster Panagia Spiliani und die Höhle der Sibylle

Als wäre das Kloster Panagia Spiliani nicht schon besonders genug, ranken sich um diesen mystischen Ort auch zahlreiche Mythen und Legenden. Deren Ursprung liegt schon im Namen, denn Spilia bedeutet Höhle und Höhlen waren im vorantiken Griechenland schon oft Orte religiöser Kulte. So wundert es nicht, dass diese Höhle, an deren Ende eine Quelle entspringt, deren Wasser Heilkräfte zugeschrieben…

[detournementsmineurs]

“Série de Bagues” (XII-XIIIe siècles) présentées à l'exposition "Trésors Médiévaux du V&A : Quand les Anglais Parlaient Français" à l'Hôtel de la Marine, Place de la Concorde, Paris, décembre 2023.