#pp nori

[pandapearls]

Happy October! Here's some Pokemon AU stuff. Thank you to Servantparent as always for the help with Allen's outfit.

Allen is fire, Nori is fighting, Maria is ghost, and Emi is dragon! Hopefully more will come, but I figured I'd pop these into a post.

Icons are from here.

[telomeke-bbs]

BAD BUDDY – THOUGHTS ON TAO KAE NOI AND TRANSBOUNDARY CULTURAL MIXING (PLUS A BONUS 10-MINUTE RECIPE)

So I never thought I'd turn into one of those fans who actually goes out and buys the products promoted in Thai BLs – but after getting Pran's PP bag (see this write-up here) I went on to try the ubiquitous crispy seaweed that keeps popping up in GMMTV's Thai BL dramas (very memorably in Bad Buddy at Ep.6 [4/4] 8.45 and Ep.11 [3I4] 6.24).

This write-up was inspired by a post from @luthienmpl, reblogged by @non-binarypal7, linked here.

I tried both the Original Flavor as well as the Hot and Spicy versions of Tao Kae Noi, and they are DEEELICIOUS. They taste kind of like a cross between Japanese nori and Malaysian/Indonesian fish keropok/krupuk (kropek in the Philippines), although you do have to be OK with seafood-type flavors to appreciate this snack. The H&S TKN is also quite mild so the chilli-averse shouldn't be put off (caveat: my chilli tolerance is pretty high, so care befull chilli virgins).

I'm not big on snacking though, so was thinking of other ways to use up my stash (overbought a bit; thinking about PatPran while grocery shopping will do that to you 😊). And came up with this: a 3-ingredient, storecupboard staple lunch, ready in 10 minutes.

Pasta with Tao Kae Noi, somewhat like aglio olio, but with even more of an umami kick from the seaweed. And it was delicious too. 😊👌 Gonna be on my meal rotation from now on! Recipe linked here if you're interested.

But TKN nourishes the mind and soul as well as the body (bear with me on this one 😊). This multicultural snack is also quite the metaphor for intercultural exchange in the 21st century, both in Thailand and on a more global scale.

Before BBS I was used to thinking of Thailand as a cultural monolith, where (almost) everybody is of Thai ethnicity (except for the Malay-dominated southern provinces), similar to the way Japan likes to think of itself. While it's true that Thai culture and the Thai language are population unifiers in the country, Bad Buddy has made me realize that the situation is more nuanced than I had originally thought. Below the surface, there are hints of a more heterogenous cultural history. Just look at Bad Buddy itself – Nanon is part-Vietnamese, Ohm is Thai-Chinese, Drake is half white American, Love Pattranite is part-Japanese, while Milk Pansa has four ethnicities mixed in (Thai, Mon, Chinese and Danish – see the YouTube video linked here, timestamp 7.06). And Director Backaof's late father was given a Catholic funeral (if I remember his Twitter/Instagram postings correctly). Meanwhile, the names Pat and Pran are Indic in origin while Ming is a staunch Chinese traditionalist (written up here). And it's hinted that Dissaya has Middle Eastern (or maybe Indian?) roots (Ep.10 [3I4] 8.05).

Historical reach, relative stability (due to military dominance in the region) and economic prosperity attracted many different peoples to the old kingdom of Siam, and the descendants of most who settled there eventually adopted Thai ways, Thai names and Thai culture. The welcoming nature of the Thai people as well as the Land of Smiles' popularity as a travel destination also mean the demographic mixing continues to this day.

Tao Kae Noi's product, branding and history actually reflect this freewheeling multicultural swirl.

The words Tao Kae Noi (เถ้าแก่น้อย) roughly translate to Little Boss, and Tao Kae Noi was the nickname of the brand's Thai-Chinese founder Tob Itthipat Peeradechapan when he was a kid. (He's still relatively young for a billionaire – 37 as at mid-2022.)

The Tao Kae part is a linguistic loan derived from the Chinese words 頭家, pronounced in the Teochew dialect (which is the predominant Chinese dialect group in Thailand, especially around Bangkok – the language is no longer much spoken among the younger generation though). Tao Kae roughly means (Chinese) Boss, Businessman or Tycoon, and variations of this can be found across Southeast Asia – spelt towkay/taukeh/tauke in Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia (although these are more probably borrowed from the closely-related Hokkien dialect) – and reflect immigrant Chinese populations' prominence in the commerce of the region.

The Noi part is a Thai diminutive signifier, and Tob Itthipat was called Little Boss because his father was the (big) boss of a wealthy family business. The Chinese words on the Tao Kae Noi packaging also mean Little Boss (小老板, xiao laoban in hanyu pinyin) but this is more the modern-day Mandarin rendition, using totally different words.

The link with Chinese identity is why the cartoon character used for TKN's branding is dressed in Chinese robes with a Chinese pigtail:

Ironically, the Chinese pigtail or queue was not originally a Han Chinese hairstyle. It was imposed upon the subjugated Han by the ruling Manchus during the Qing Dynasty, and the hairstyle consisted of both the queue as well as a shaved forehead. Interestingly, it was the shaved forehead that was more objected to at first (historically Chinese men had always kept their hair long anyway, so the queue was just a plaited step away), but for fear of reprisals (execution being the ultimate) most Han men complied with the enforced hairdo. Old photographs/drawings of Qing-era Chinese men in Southeast Asia also show that the queue was commonly sported, falling out of favor only after the Qing emperor Puyi cut his off in 1922.

But the product Tao Kae Noi isn't traditionally Chinese or Thai (despite the packaging, and the availability of flavors like Tom Yum Goong and Mala). Seaweed as a food isn't unheard of in Southeast Asia – vegan gelatin (agar jelly) is well-known as an ingredient in the region, and the word agar itself is derived from the Malay name for the product agar-agar; another example is the ingredient gamet in the north of the Philippines. But Tao Kae Noi has only been around since 2004 and was actually based on traditional Japanese nori and/or Korean gim, given an international twist with flavors as wide-ranging as Sour Cream and Onion, Japanese Sauce (whatever that is – teriyaki maybe?), Wasabi, as well as the aforementioned Tom Yum Goong and Mala.

And exploring Tao Kae Noi's multicultural roots really takes a turn for the sweetly weird when we look at the history of nori itself.

Nori as a food has been known in Japan for more than a thousand years, first consumed in the form of a paste before papermaking techniques were applied to create the thin sheets so well-known today.

However, the Japanese nori industry began to flounder in the years following World War II. Traditional methods of cultivation had always been beset by fickle yields, mainly because the marine life cycle of nori algae (a complex three-stage process involving host mollusc shells at one point) was poorly understood. The war pushed this situation over the brink – American explosives targeting Japanese ports also devastated shellfish beds crucial to one stage of the algae's life cycle, and the crop all but disappeared in 1948. The nori industry was in danger of dying out.

It was the work by English phycologist Kathleen Mary Drew-Baker on the seaweed harvested to make Welsh laverbread (bara lafwr or bara lawr in Welsh) that provided the breakthrough, on the other side of the world, for the future of nori.

(above) Kathleen Mary Drew-Baker

Kathleen Mary Drew-Baker never went to Japan, but her revolutionary findings about British seaweed were instrumental in leading Japanese researchers (Sokichi Segawa, Fusao Ota and others) to discover more successful methods for the cultivation of nori, based on a better understanding of the algae's life cycle needs. This turn of events ultimately saved the future of this traditional food industry. Kathleen Mary Drew-Baker was dubbed Mother of the Sea by grateful Japanese people, and she is celebrated in Uto City every April 14th when coastal seaweed harvesters take the day off to commemorate her rescue of their livelihood and this thousand-year old ingredient of Japanese cuisine. 😊 There is even a shrine dedicated to her there (👀 I kid you not), that's how esteemed her contribution is.

Photo credit of the Sumiyoshi shrine to Kathleen Mary Drew-Baker: Simasakon (link to the Wikimedia Commons license here), file is unchanged from original

For more info, there's a fascinating article on Kathleen Mary Drew-Baker by the Smithsonian Institution linked here.

So when members of the Bad Buddy fandom watch part-Vietnamese Nanon as Pran and Thai-Chinese Ohm as Pat munch their way through sheets of Tao Kae Noi, or if you happen to cook a plate of Italian/Japanese/Korean-inspired pasta sprinkled with TKN, at the same time the cultural backstory of this product is tugging away at unseen historical links to elements as disparate as Southeast Asian immigration, Chinese hairstyles, Japanese cuisine, British phycology, Welsh algal reproduction and the veneration of a pioneering mid-20th century female English scientist by seaweed harvesters in Kumamoto prefecture. 😊

Can there be a more appropriate metaphor for the transboundary nature of Thai BL fandom today? Thanks to the global reach of the Internet, there are avid viewers in all inhabited continents; the Bad Buddy comments section on YouTube – with posts in Turkish, Arabic, Hindi, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Russian, Vietnamese, Thai, Tagalog, Burmese, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Malay/Indonesian among others – shows that the viewership is truly diverse. There are fans from places as far away as South America and as culturally vast (and varied) as Africa and India. And this kind of global diversity coming together over a shared common interest (quaint, charming, sometimes disquieting Thai BL) truly warms my heart. 💖

So excuse me while I take a break to go munch on some Tao Kae Noi right now. I'm feeling the fuzzies again, and I think that's just the right mood for watching PatPran on their Kazz Award-winning Ep.12 [4/4] tin can call across the Jindapat/Siridechawat boundary line (award reference explained here), while I nibble on the seaweed they so love (and that I do too). 😊💖👍

[asknoridoorman]

Now this is new and exciting.

We've had new Uzis, Lizzys, Dolls, Vs, Js, Ns, Rebeccas, etc. But never a new Nori.

e x ci t i ng? pp ll eas e i look hOO RRR i BBLE. . . bu t h e ll o :)

[ventigh]

Hello there! I love your blankshipping art and I got some questions about dear Ingo and Emmet! One) when did they officially got together and who confessed first? Two) do you like it when they have children and if not why? Three) Is one or both of them trans? And finally Four) if they aren’t already married will they have a wedding and if yes how would it be like? Thanks! 💐

hello, anon! they are indeed very dear! 💐 thank you so much for stopping by to ask me some stuff abt the ship! :D

hrmm, now that i think abt it, i've never put that much thought into establishing clear romantic hcs for the two before. hopefully i got this right! sry if its kinda long ;;;

i'll try my best to answer under the cut! :)

1. hrmm, abt when they officially got together n who confessed first.

that's a tricky one. i think the most plausible answer would be that they knew ever since they were kids. like, it just happened for them, yanno? :) they place so much trust on eo, so y wouldnt they share these wonderful feelings at the first chance they can get? whispered under their kitchen table, sharing a bag of chips and chilling, feeling like forever. or just stowed away in their bedroom, unanimously agreeing on their future. the just knew in that sense :) for sure they r not the types to keep secrets to eo

-and even if they did already know such feelings were wrong for example ૮꒰/ฅ//ฅ//꒱ა i believe they'd still confess it, if only so their brother could help them. they trust each other that much. judgment? between these two? :) come on, now-

in the case of confessions, i think it's a toss-up on who catches feelings first. somehow i think it's kudari who'd be the first to say something bc he lacks a filter moreso than ingo. plus, i dont think ingo would be the type to realize such feelings at a young age. like, he'll have the same attraction towards emmet but he'd just assume it's his usual urge to spoil his baby brother or something. so he would just.. not notice it as soon. idk how to explain it but yeah :3

tho i do personally love it when they only reach such feelings as adults!! life's more complicated! you cant just tell him you love him! you have to pine there and sit with your thoughts, your very romantic and verrry adult thoughtsss (⁠.⁠ ⁠❛⁠ ⁠ᴗ⁠ ⁠❛⁠.⁠) hahahhaah yeah i live for yearning (⁠｡⁠ﾉ⁠ω⁠＼⁠｡⁠)

i still think emmet would confess first! he has the sort of fluorescent personality for it. but.... he def be careful abt it. more than u think, okay? he wont just go full-steam like this is something to be manic abt. this isnt just some pkmn battle. he loves battling sure but he battles everyday! this is his brother and he's important to him n emmet knows how to slow down, damn it !

yepp :')))

2. my opinions on them having kids!

im assuming this question came from my fanart of my friend's bikerdad!au? :) or it brought it up?

it's a mixed opinion haha. i mean beside @akirasdigbick's nori, i don't think i like imagining them w children? dont get me wrong, i go nuts for dad!nbr, like srslyyy one of the hottest characters in an au ever :') but i usually like stuff that r as close to canon as possible unless i get sold on it.

n i especially don't like it when it's the 'x adopts y' format where y is a canon character in the game. the reason in particular for this one is that emmet gets left behind in these kinds of fun :P the dad!ingo agenda sells by the dozen w a multitude of characters from both pla and bw and suree i see it, but it doesnt rly interest me ever since again, no emmet XP wc is a shame bc if emmets anything like me, kids would follow him around constantly

so yeapp. no kids unless it's a team effort XP personally ;PP

3. is one or both of them trans?

akdkskdk anonnnn nooo XDDDD canon wont ever let that happen ;w; ofc i dont view either of them as trans when consuming content unless its implied buuuut......

trans emmet i love you. trans emmet trans emmet trans emmet ohhh u give me so much comfort and if u view any of my works as emmet being trans then you'd be one hundred percent right suddenly! :D he is transs!!!

but no srsly i dont usually actively hc someone as trans so only emmet for me. and that's mostly for self-indulgent/validation purposes rather than bc i rly see them as trans subtextually per se (⁠´⁠ ⁠.⁠ ⁠.̫⁠ ⁠.⁠ ⁠`⁠).... but it may work!!

(oh gods i swear i dont kin emmet)

but srsly okay. when i think of emmet as trans then he's def one who wears a binder! :) he came out at a young age w his parent and ingo ofc being fully supportive of him. he'd probably grow accustomed to the way a binder feels on him, n would be the type to forget to remove it for his own safety sometimes XP sometimes he will brute force his way into wearing it even if he's conscious of the pain bc body dysmorphia do be real and it's a hundred times worse when you carry a title like subway master + dealing w endless customers the leave your skin crawling hours after your shift.

ingo will always pull him aside and be verrry strict w him ofc n emmet would make a saucy joke or two if he wasnt as pale as a sheet, sounding like one too w the way he whistles between his breaths.

ofc ingo wouldn't stay mad for too long and inevitably just sigh and help emmet relax by filling a hot bath w some great salts and warmed chocolate moomoo milk and all the marshmallows. they have a tub big enough to fit both of them in, ingo would massage his back n chest and at first they'd just talk abt their day -complain snark n rant even- until ingo once again whispers for emmet to take care of himself, pleading between kisses on his shoulder blade to wc then emmet would finally just cry :'))))))

arghhhhhhhhh

i do think that even at a young age, they will absolutely be like so normal abt it. ingo would totally be the best brother ever. liek emmet will totally chill around after his baths by a bit topless bc he'd suddenly be distracted w a game or something midway thru dressing up n ingo will just like not care, just tell his brother to stop being so slow to snap him out of it if he hasnt already. he doesnt go on unnecessarily fights w the kids who bully emmet abt it bc he and emmet knows its not worth shit. he was quick to fling emmet's binder to his face bc ingo told him to clean up his side of the room at the times when even emmets parents hugged him a bit stiffly when he had his binder on. ingo held his hands when he first started taking hormones bc even tho he knew emmet didnt rly fear needles -ingo feared sharp things more than him even- emmet was still scared, even though he'd been putting on a brave face for his parents. then they all had ice creams n still neither let gooooo :3333333333

yeahhhslfkskd a looot of thoughts on that one. not even counting the ones when ingo disappeared :')))

woohh if uve ever made trans!emmet ever, just know i love u forever :)

4. what was their wedding like?

ohhh, anon, i remember actually wanting to make something like a wedding fanfic back then abt that hahah!

the twins probably won't be getting officiated any time soon, that's for sure, but i think they'd be happy w the principle of it ! just that act of sharing their devotion, no matter how tiny it is (⁠◍⁠•⁠ᴗ⁠•⁠◍⁠)⁠✧⁠*⁠。if it's good enough for them then they're sticking the date on their calendars as their wedding anniversary and thats that ^^

anyw, if u think abt it, a lot of ppl probably propose in the subway. it's where a lot of ppl end up! its where a lot of ppl happen to meet :)

its not knew to the twins but maybe one proposal happens to strike something in them. maybe someone saidbsomething at the right time, the gathered crowd laughs, emmet n ingo meet eyes. and theyre just sharing their own secret smile, ingo nudges his head toward the spectacle w a smirk. theyre subway masters after all, they should be accommodating n this is a joyous event. his twin just rolls his eyes and

-well xDD yeahhh u could see how simple this is going to get so ill spare u the details

but i think thatd best be what gives them the idea, u know? theyre not gonna have a wedding so itd be romantic if they had a proposal anniversary instead. theyd get their rings later but later that night theyd just exchange vows in their special ways. how that is could be up to you

but its just them realizing how ready they both r to just want to get married to rly tie the knot or whatever. rly rly rly see themselves and affirm themselves that theyre in love and its so valid that theyve the memories to prove it

(OOF MEMORIES , TOUCHY TOPIC I KNOW)

the real prize here is that theyd totally be married like rly rly young. again, its just the point of reaching the revalation for them. theyve always already been devoted to one another.

theyd go, heyy we reached our dream job pretty young, right ingo? x333 y dont we add getting married to check off the life-list

i hc them w all good things in their lifeeee, huh? pretty smooth sailing w just those couple of bumps ^^ ofc we know what came next but.... (⁠ ⁠；⁠∀⁠；⁠) haaaaaaaaayssst

thanks again for the ask!

sry for boring u 🙇

its p cool if u made it this far (⁠｡⁠•̀⁠ᴗ⁠-⁠)⁠✧ so i hope u have a good day!

again sry for being boring heeeeeh.....:DDDD

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Nori

[lequotidienaunaturelshop]

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La cuisine à base d'algues marines est une tradition très implantée en Extrême-Orient tandis que son introduction dans notre alimentation est plus récente.

En découvrant ces légumes marins, nous nous rendons compte non seulement de leurs saveurs, mais aussi de leurs vertus thérapeutiques exceptionnelles.

Les algues, accompagnent de délicieuses recettes, présentent un profil nutritionnel remarquable. Elles renferment des acides aminés essentiels, des minéraux rares mais facilement assimilables, des vitamines, des oligo-éléments et des fibres. Par contre, elles sont très faibles en matières grasses, ce qui les rend recommandées naturellement en cas de surpoids ou de taux de cholestérol élevé.

Les algues sont une source importante de minéraux (25% environ), de protéines complètes ayant tous les acides aminés essentiels (20%), de glucides principalement sous forme de fibres (53%), de lipides en très faibles quantités (de 2% à 5%) principalement composés d'acides gras polyinsaturés, et enfin, elles regorgent de nombreuses vitamines, notamment celles du groupe B, de la vitamine C et de la provitamine A.

L'algue Wakamé aux mille vertus ! Saviez-vous que cette fougère de mer renferme dix fois plus de calcium que le lait ? La laitue de mer est également deux fois plus riche en fer que le germe de blé.

Grâce à leur teneur élevée en fibres, les algues se révèlent être de véritables alliées diététiques. Leurs fibres insolubles accélèrent le transit intestinal, tandis que leurs fibres solubles gonflent au contact de l'eau dans l'estomac, limitant ainsi l'appétit.

Ces fibres créent également un gel qui protège les muqueuses de l'estomac et des intestins. Et cerise sur le gâteau, ce sont d'excellents réducteurs de cholestérol.

Mais les algues ne se limitent pas à leur valeur nutritionnelle exceptionnelle. Elles possèdent également des vertus ré équilibrantes pour votre santé.

La Wakamé, est une algue comestible très prisée dans la cuisine japonaise et coréenne. Avec ses 10 fois plus de calcium que le lait (1 300 mg/100 g contre 119 mg/100 g), elle offre donc une alternative précieuse .

La nori est une autre algue bien connue en France. Une fois séchée, elle devient un condiment traditionnel de la cuisine japonaise, utilisé dans de nombreux plats.Intégrez les algues à votre alimentation pour bénéficier de leurs multiples bienfaits.

L'algue Nori renferme une multitude de minéraux tels que le calcium, le magnésium et lelithium, en plus d'être riche en vitamines et en acides aminés. Elle est souvent recommandée dans les régimes végétariens en raison de sa teneur élevée en protéines (jusqu'à 47 % de sa matière sèche selon le CEVA), en vitamine A et même partiellement active en vitamine B12.

L'algue Kombu, quant à elle, joue un rôle alcalin en aidant à neutraliser les excès d'acidité dans l'organisme. Elle est également une source remarquable de sels minéraux tels que le fer, le calcium, le magnésium et l'iode, ce qui en fait un excellent reminéralisant et un hydratant efficace.

Sa valeur calorique est optimale, car elle est principalement constituée d'hydrates de carbone qui apportent une dose supplémentaire d'énergie.

De plus, l'algue Kombu est extrêmement riche en vitamines telles que la vitamine A, B1, B2, C, PP, B6 et B12, et facilite l'élimination du sodium tout en prévenant le durcissement des artères. Enfin, sa teneur en fibres contribue à réduire la constipation.

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Perché scrive? Per esempio è appena uscito un libro, per la collana bianca di Einaudi, in cui sono raccolte le poesie di Nino Pedretti, poesie nel dialetto di Santarcangelo di Romagna, che dev’esser un paese, Guerra, Baldini, Pedretti, che son dei poeti, eccezionali, non so, ne leggo una, di Perdetti, in una traduzione un po’ rimaneggiata:

Non ditemi che il mondo è brutto, malato, ridotto in merda, il mondo ha bisogno di esser bello, anche se ti urla il cuore, anche se ti strappano le dita.

Ecco questa poesia qua, secondo me, quando ti chiedono, delle volte te lo chiedono, Perché scrive? Che è una domanda che non è tanto bella, sentirsela fare, che potrebbe sottendere un’altra domanda Perché non fa magari dell’altro, io quando mi chiedon così gli rispondo Per disperazione, che non è una gran bella riposta però è vero, io mi son messo a scrivere per disperazione, Luigi Malerba una volta quando gliel’han chiesto lui ha risposto Per capire quello che penso, che è una bella risposta, ma secondo me, a pensarci, una risposta ancora più bella sarebbe questa qua, Perché scive? Non ditemi che il mondo è brutto, malato, ridotto in merda, il mondo ha bisogno di esser bello, anche se ti urla il cuore, anche se ti strappano le dita.

[Paolo Nori - La matematica è scolpita nel granito, cit., pp. 65-66]

[pandamagines]

For your viewing pleasure.

[monstersweetie]

Multiples of 5 for Nori? (I hope these questions are fit them!)

oof thaTS A LOT ill do my best!! ill put it under a readmore tho bc long thanks 4 sending!! hopefully i got em a l l

all from here!

5. Do they have any siblings? What’s their names? What is their relationship with them? Has their relationship changed since they were kids to adults?

hes technically got. 2 adopted siblings, but the one we’ll focus on is Emi. He’s got a tough relationship with her, but their relationship has always been the same - she’s the responsible one, and he’s the laidback one.

10. Do they like children? Do children like them? Do they have or want any children? What would they be like as a parent? Or as a godparent/babysitter/ect?

hed be a good parent!! hes a dick but hes not mean towards kids if he can help it. hes already an uncle 2 someone, actually wink wink

15. Are they good at cooking? Do they enjoy it? What do others think of their cooking?

nori is a great cook!! everyone loves his cooking and he doesnt mind doing it !!

20. Do they like musicals? Music in general? What do they do when they’re favourite song comes?

he plays guitar/makes music more than he listens to music, but during a fave song he’ll probably grab his guitar and strum along if he knows the chords (which he usually does!)

25. What do they find funny? Do they have a good sense of humour? Are they funny themselves?

nori has a pretty dark sense of humor, but not like, bad edgy dark. he just likes pulling (harmless for the most part) pranks and seeing his enemies fail at stuff, but other than that hes bad at telling jokes and not very fu n ny on purpose.

30. Do they exercise? Regularly? Or only when forced? What do they act like pre-work out and post-work out?

He does exercise, not super regularly though. Emi usually drags him along. He’s annoyed pre-workout, and annoyed post-workout dngjkdnfg

35. What’s their guilty pleasure? What is their totally unguilty pleasure?

ill be fucking real his guiltyp leasure is probably. bad porn or some shit ngjdkfgn hwoever his unguilty pleasure? pandas. he shamelessly obsesses over panda s

40. Do they like energy drinks? Coffee? Sugary food? Or can they naturally stay awake and alert?

hes a soda kinda guy, i think

45. How do other people see them? Is it similar to how they see themselves?

oof

nori hates himself ill be blunt, and most people seem t ohate him, sO it works out that way that its similar to how he sees himself. but he also puts on a purposely jackass portrayal of himself bc he doesnt feel hes worth getting close to and purposely shoves people away ; )

50. If they could only take one bag of stuff somewhere with them: what would they pack? What do they consider their essentials?

only the clothes on his back and maybe a guitar. hes not very materialistic for the most part.

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Translation of natalie.mu's Interview with Soumatou

Source: https://natalie.mu/comic/pp/shadowshouse03

With the TV anime “Shadows House” starting its broadcast on the 10th of April, Comic Natalie is running a special feature on the work. In this third installment of the series, the original author Soumatou makes their long-awaited appearance. Here, we are given the chance to hear them talk about the behind the scene of the production, the sense of speed that comes from the short amount of time between the adaptation decision and the broadcast, the background behind the creation of the original work where the characters have no face and whose expressions cannot be seen, as well as the story behind the creation of the 2-person unit Soumatou, with Nori in charge of design, and Hisshi in charge of drawing. It should be noted that in this interview, they are answering not as Nori and Hisshi but as Soumatou.

“It’s probably a work that’s hard to adapt into anime”

──Soumatou-san, when did you hear of the anime adaptation?

In 2019, about 50 chapters were made free to read online, and amidst the great response, we learned that the anime adaptation was greenlit.

── Making something open to the public has such an effect, huh?

When “Shadows House” started, it was a relatively subdued serialization. With the chapters being made free to read, people started sharing their thoughts through various means like Twitter, and the paper volumes were selling out. In regards to the public release, back when the person in charge proposed the idea, we approved of it since our impression was that “If not many people were reading it anyways, then let’s just give that a try.” Therefore, in the midst of all that, when we heard of the anime adaptation, we were very surprised. “Is there such a thing?” Because production starts immediately after the decision, it was very speedy.

──With how short the time period is between the decision and the start of broadcast, it doesn’t seem like you have much time to rejoice huh (laugh).

We were happy at the time of the decision of course, but apart from that, “It’s probably a work that’s hard to adapt into anime” was what we thought. In the first place, we’re the type that only believe in something we can see, so it didn’t really sink in for us. We were thinking something like “This project might not even fall through” (laugh). That is why ever since the anime adaptation was publicly announced, the feeling of joy finally sinked in.

──Soumatou-san, in what ways were you involved with the anime?

We supervised roughly all the main processes. When the anime adaptation was greenlit, since the person in charge advised me that “If you will be involved, then be involved with everything. If you won’t be involved, then don’t be involved with anything at all,” we thought “If it’s going to be like that, then we will do as much as we can.” However, the supervision of the script was quite hefty, and having to do that concurrently with the serialization was rather physically difficult.

──I had the chance to watch the first episode, and the thing that surprised me was the original development related to Emilyko’s establishment. Was it difficult to supervise these parts?

We had thought to draw that in the original work, though we decided not to since we thought it wasn’t particularly important. That was just a story from the original work which was added on. However, what was difficult were the adjustments made based on the decision at the script meeting to also depict elements or episodes which are not yet revealed in the original work. We have to think two steps ahead of the current plot of the ongoing serialization, then we have to put in stories or elements that would put us closer to that in the anime. It was a maddening task (laugh).

──If that’s the case, then it seems like it would be fun to compare the original work with the anime huh. Even though it’s difficult, was it refreshing to work on the anime?

Yes. Since we didn’t know anything about anime, or rather, we had no production know-how, so at first, we had no idea how everything would progress. To begin with, we gave them the material created for the serialization. Because we have already created a vast amount of material like the building’s 3D layout, it was easy to say “This is what the layout looks like.” In addition, even though the creation of the colored edition was intended for overseas readers, that material seemed to have been of use for the creation of the colors in the anime. In that sense, there might have been little materials that must be created when it comes to adapting it into an anime.

Supervising as far as the way soot is emitted and the movement of the Clingers

──Soumatou-san, what kind of impression did you have when you saw the anime?

We were amazed by how much more profound the atmosphere was than what we expected. We knew the character’s line drawing and the colors that go on them since we supervised it, but we can’t visualize the final image with just that. However, when we saw the processed recording with the background attached, we felt it was close to the impression of the original work.

──How about the directing?

Expressions that aren’t possible in the manga, such as the movement of the soot, Emilyko rolling on the ground or the inclusion of the song that the Living Dolls sang to themselves, left me with a strong impression.

──As for the soot, I was convinced that it would move like that. Was that also supervised by you?

As for the soot and the clingers, we were shown a few patterns, then we fine-tuned it from there.

──By the way, what kinds of patterns were there?

As for the soot, there was a difference in how it was emitted, be it softly or firmly. For the clingers, there was a difference in the movement, like whether it would move slowly like a cockroach or quickly. Such were the patterns that were there. We did quite a bit of trial and error.

Only the voice actors for Kate and Emilyko were entirely decided by others

──Did you go to the dubbing location?

We only visited for the first time to say hello. The voice actors went through the performance about 3 times. As we listened to the anime staff's directions without giving any input ourselves, we felt it fit our image. On the other hand, when the voice actors were asked by the director “Is there any part you want to re-record at the end?,” they responded with things like “I want to re-record this part” or “would this part be better like this instead,” one after another amending it. It was also the first time we observed a dubbing session, so we were very impressed.

──Well then, did Soumatou-san have any particular request?

There were one or two scenes where we thought “This doesn’t seem to come through, so we want it like this,” and asked them to redo the intonation. However, because anime has a fixed length, I felt that it was better to leave it to the director to draw out the best performance within that time limit. The rest of the time, it was alright for us to really just watch.

──That’s roughly how I imagined it to be. Well, then, please tell us about the impression you got from the main characters. First , how were Kate’s by Kitou Akira-san and Emilyko’s Sasahara Yuu-san?

The rough images of Kate and Emilyko’s voices in our own heads were just “calm” and “cheerful.” That’s why we were able to express our wishes after the audition for the other characters. However, just for these two, we only said, “Please use the person that fits the best'' and left it for others to decide (laugh). When we heard the audition, our impression was that Sasahara-san would fit Kate’s voice, and Kitou-san would fit Emilyko’s voice. However, when we looked at the results, it turned out to be the other way around. There are differences between the performance they did at the audition and at the start of the dubbing, though now we felt that this way was definitely more fitting.

──The other shadow and living doll pairs are played by one person each. What was your impression when you heard of that?

We stated in the original work that the shadows and living dolls have different voices. However, for the anime, when the idea to have the same person performing the roles was proposed, we told them that “we are looking forward to the voice actors doing their best.” The voices are altered based on vocal ranges, and I think the end result is that you will be able to enjoy the voice actors’ varied performances.

──Currently, the cast for four sets of characters has been announced. Please tell us your impressions about each of them.

Sakai Koudai-san’s duet between the hearty, easily carried away John and the cool-headed Shaun is very amusing. Both characters sound good, and their voices are cute. As for Sakura Ayane-san, she was able to portray the very different atmospheres between the lively Louise and the calm Lou.

──Those two consist of clearly different characters so it might be easy to work with, but I felt that the remaining two seem difficult.

Indeed. Kawashima Reiji-san has to play Patrick and Ricky - two characters whose voices and personalities are quite similar, so we thought it was quite a hard role. However, he was able to perform the roles with the understanding of the fine differences in the character of the two. For Shimoji Shino-san who plays the role of Shirley and Ram, there is a lot of dialogue with the imaginary friend, and she has to portray a different image than that of others. She said that “It’s a type of character that I have never played before,” but her voice fitted perfectly.

The pair’s 20-year relationship

──Well then, let’s move from “Shadows House” and let's hear about you Soumatou san, and your past works. You two work together as a pair, but when did you get to know each other?

We have known each other since when we were students, so it is already a roughly 20-year relationship.

──Why did you two start making manga together?

When Hisshi stopped submitting to manga awards, they no longer drew their own manga and ended up settling down as an assistant. I thought that this was a waste of potential, so when I quit my own job, I told Hisshi that I would write my own stories and asked Hisshi to draw them.

──Afterwards, you seemed to have created doujinshi for a while huh.

Yes. Because Nori normally doesn’t read manga and had not created a manga before, we thought to make a lot of them and send them to publishers. Since around 2008, we made a few and showed them at exhibitions. Afterwards, we were able to thankfully get in touch with Shueisha.

──It sure is amazing that you called out and said that you would “make your own story” even though you had no prior experience. Nori-san, what is it about the manga that Hisshi-san made that drew you in?

The composition is very skillful. To phrase it slightly poorly, even if the story is not that interesting, the skillful composition has the power to make you read from beginning to end. That is why Hisshi was able to receive rewards from various magazines.

──I see.

However, since I’m the type to make a manga from whatever episode or idea I want to draw, I have a good grasp on it, but I’m bad at putting things in order over a long span of time. I can draw one-offs, but they did not lead to serialization at all. It seemed like I was slowly running out of things I wanted to draw.

──How do you two divide the work for making the manga? For example, please teach us the making of a single chapter of “Shadows House.”

Firstly, Nori describes the entire course of events, then after bouncing the ideas off of Hisshi, it’s all put together into the plot. With that as the base, Hisshi makes the mini storyboards, which Nori then uses in the briefing session with the editor. Afterwards, Hisshi draws up the real storyboards, and after another meeting with the editor, we head to the rough draft. Hisshi checks that rough draft, then we work on things like new characters, backgrounds, minor characters and the frontispiece’s design. Then, Hisshi inks a pen sketch while Nori does assistant work around the characters. Finally, Hisshi puts the finishing touches and the manuscript is complete. Also, Nori makes the final adjustments to the dialogue right before submission.

──You sure communicate in great detail.

We think we go back and forth more than others whose original works and drawings are separated. Furthermore, we also consult each other when we come to a standstill in our work.

Both “Kuro” and “Girigiri out” have the same ingredients

──Well then let’s return to “Shadows House”, please tell us how and from where you got the idea for the work.

I was staring at a mannequin at a clothing store when the idea suddenly flashed in my mind. The rest is a mishmash of things such as Hisshi’s specialty of clothes and backgrounds, as well as our shared interest in buildings and everyday life in a strange setting.

──Even if you have come up with the idea, it must take courage to make the main characters pitch black, right?

Mangaka are tasked with doing works like drawing facial expressions, though we wondered whether it was possible to present emotions without facial expressions in “Shadows House.” Nori simply thought that “It can be done in novels, so it should be possible in manga too,” and Hisshi hates drawing characters’ faces (laugh). Hisshi even says that “I just want to draw clothes and backgrounds” all the time. Of course Hisshi tries to draw the characters cutely, but that’s without a spontaneous desire to do so.

──That’s surprising to hear, since in your previous work “Girigiri out”, the charm of the beautiful heroine is pushed to the forefront.

Originally Nori was a graphic designer, and Hisshi was a Mangaka’s assistant, so it was deeply ingrained in us to accede to others’ demands. There wasn’t anything that we could say “We want to draw that!” about as Soumatou. Because of that, basically, we are the type to start by fumbling at themes and genres that the editor has an interest in. From there, we come up with various things, and the engine gradually starts. Moreover, at the serialization meeting, among the three works we submitted, “Girigiri Out” was a discarded idea to give the impression that we were trying our best. We thought that if we submitted three works at the serialization meeting then it could look as if we’re trying our best (laugh). Since we didn’t think of anything aside from the 3 chapters submitted at the meeting, when the time came for the serialization, we were worried about what to draw from there.

──”Girigiri Out” is about a situation surrounding a girl who wets herself when she’s nervous, and a boy with the power to suppress someone’s urge to urinate through touch. Even though you have only thought of 3 chapters, during the serialization, you drew quite a few variations on wetting oneself huh.

Generally speaking, we were motivated to make every chapter a different situation (laugh).

──Furthermore, among your previous works, “Kuro” has parts that felt connected to “Shadows House”, but “Girigiri Out”’s style was surprising. I understand now that it’s a story that started from fumbling about with themes and genres of interest to the editor.

However, maybe it’s hard to notice, but the themes drawn in “Kuro” and “Girigiri Out” have quite a bit in common. Everyday life in a strange setting, strange characters that are not people, restlessness, action, surreal jokes, familial love, release from trauma, folk beliefs… the packaging is different, but “Shadows House” also has roughly those same ingredients.

We want to do a gag manga next, but it might be difficult?

──Please let us hear a bit more about “Shadows House.” The story was carefully foreshadowed from the beginning, but just how far ahead did you plan at the start of the serialization?

Since the beginning we have faintly thought about what happens very far ahead into the future, and from there we flesh it out. However, we don’t know how long each part will take if we haven’t drawn it, and parts do change due to the characters’ relationships. For example, at first we had planned for the Debut to end in about 3 chapters.

──In reality it took a volume and a half. That sure is a big change.

We have a bad habit of putting off thinking about the minute details.

──The garden in the Debut also had such a complicated map that I didn’t think it was planned to end in just 3 chapters.

The person in charge is someone who likes exciting and shounen-like things, so we were told that “If I go to the garden then I want a map of the garden.” Though, since we haven’t thought of anything, we spent the next day making a map of the garden as well as all of the gimmicks (laugh). We feel like without that, the story would have been aimless, so we appreciate the advice.

──It certainly has an exciting adventurous feel to it, so the Debut looks like something that would shine in an anime huh. By the way, when I was reading “Shadows House,” the thing that surprised me the most was how screentone was not used at all. I’m sorry that it’s a simple question, but isn’t that quite difficult?

It normally is difficult (laugh). Originally, for a drawing method that suits the work, we wanted something that is reminiscent of old printed works. It started when Nori, who was simply bored, lightheartedly suggested that “This time let’s use hatching (Method of filling in space using uniform parallel lines).” It limits the range of expressions, so now we do regret it a little bit.

──I will continue to enjoy your wonderful drawings from now on. Lastly, you mentioned that “there wasn’t anything that you wanted to draw as Soumatou,” but when you finish drawing “Shadows House,” please tell us what genre you want to tackle next.

Let’s see… how about gag manga? We originally started with drawing gag manga, and the works submitted together with “Shadows House” at the serialization meeting also had comedy in them. However, the gag portion was so hard to do that the editor was put off by it. It might be difficult, but it would be nice if we could publish it some day (laugh).

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text posts + panda pearl

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now that the new pp update is out. Holds nori and Allen. I care them

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Paolo Nori, Sulla canzone popolare, in Tre discorsi in anticipo e uno in ritardo. Su Calatrava, su Čechov, sulle scimmie, sulla canzone popolare, «Narrativa» 17, DeriveApprodi, Roma, 2007, pp. 58-60

[cutulisci]

Un giorno, allora ero liceale, un professore disse: «Quando sarete innamorati, scriverete lettere bellissime». In realtà, chiunque abbia conosciuto innamorati – e capita a tutti – e si ricorda di se stesso amoroso o amorosa, sa benissimo che chi è trafitto d’amore è un personaggio monotono, ripetitivo, dalla aggettivazione scialba e iterativa, affranto dal gravame dei luoghi comuni, emotivamente instabile, solipsista, convinto che l’oggetto del suo amore sia di interesse generale, e più stupito che irritato se nota una certa tendenza a cambiare discorso nei più cari e pazienti sodali. L’innamorato è socialmente una peste, un diluvio innocente, un farneticante, un ossessivo, e sebbene tutto ciò sia assai nobile e fondamentale dal punto di vista della storia psicologica specifica, non è credibile che costui sia in grado di produrre testi letterari interessanti.

[Giorgio Manganelli, Il rumore sottile della prosa, Milano, Adelphi 2013 (2), pp. 85-86]

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In lui, quello che si oppone all'amore non è tanto l’odio, quanto il ruminare del cervello.

[André Gide, Dostoevskij, traduzione di Maria Maraschini, Milano, Medusa 2013, pp. 92-93] via Paolo Nori