#rogue trader thoughts

[dairine-bonnet]

Inspired by my own latest post where Heinrix saved the whole party again!

Kibellah: I'm your blade and shield!

Lynette von Valancius *silently*: And Heinrix is my blade; my shield; my axe; my healer; a sight for my sore eyes; my personal pleasure; my warp warrior; my inquisitorial supporter; my regicide and reading partner...

Idira, Jae, Cassia: *giggle*

Abelard: *sighs and rolls his eyes*

[b1dl0]

[knt666]

Lonely boy

[lordcaptains]

so much of heinrix's guilt around romance and relationships comes from his desire for more than his duty allows him.

during the conversation after kiava gamma, on the devil path, heinrix doesn't demur when asked about his past relationships - 'fleeting dalliances', he calls them, and he seems to be enjoying himself as he narrows his eyes at the rogue trader, anticipating their response. it's only if the rogue trader says they meant more than that, more than just those 'fleeting dalliances', that he closes himself off again.

the same thing comes up during the conversation after the magnae accessio. "my duty comes first, even before myself," he says. "in our position, i can allow myself very little. and for you it is no different, really."

as an agent of the holy ordos, as a servant of the golden throne, any relationship that cannot be set aside for his responsibilities, any relationship that might take time or attention or devotion away from his work - anything more - isn't something he can allow himself. especially with the rogue trader, who he has been tasked with surveilling by the inquisition.

and his desire for more is what shames him. he was allowed to live by the imperium, anathema though he is - how could he want anything more than to serve it?

that's what he confesses, frozen nearly to death in the rogue trader's quarters.

heinrix believes he has a duty to the inquisition, to the imperium, to humanity and the god-emperor of mankind. he let himself think that maybe, just maybe, he could have what he wanted and be with the rogue trader, too.

[asphodelles]

oldish rogue trader doodles i’m never warp jumping a dangerous route again

[spiritsong]

when it all turns back to dust, I won't pay no mind because I have lived my life as such — between the stars and the thrill of your touch

[sorormaior]

“oooouggh the eldar and the t’au think humanity are stinky and weird” shut up i know they’re hiding their own xenosfuckers out there. there’s no way in hell they aint out there.

[fourraccoonsinacoat]

My thoughts on Heinrix using biomancy during sex is that it he would approach it like he does all his emotionally-charged decisions.

He'd tell himself he's not going to use it for all the myriad of reasons, but once he's in that emotionally-charged situation, it's a whole different scenario.

Also, Heinrix uses biomancy to cure headaches and tummy ills (he tells RT as much when they eat the lower deck slimemold.) He likes to talk about the dangers of warp powers, but I do think there's a small part of Heinrix that believes (maybe even a tad bit arrogantly) that he is good enough to bend the rules here and there when it comes to how he employs his abilities.

I absolutely could see him getting swept up in the emotional moment of it all, making a small concession and then it building from there.

I like these kinds of discussions, and I honestly don't think he's the kind of character where you can say 100% he would or would not do this. Heinrix's character does a lot of mental gymnastics and justifying for someone with black and white stances. He does a lot of living in the grey spaces of morality.

I think it's more a question of, how would he justify it or in what circumstances would he feel compelled to use it?

[kshert]

Of all the endings for Heinrix (with the romantic RT), the endings where Rogue Trader swears allegiance to the C'tan are my favorite. And this is not about which fate is best for Heinrix or anything.

There are two options for the final slide: 1) option is the same for a romance when Heinrix remains in the Inquisition and without a romance.

2) a true romance when he leaves the Inquisition.

I consider both slides important if there is romance. In short, I think both slides are about loyalty, but one is about RT and the other is about the Inquisition.

In the second option of the epilogue, staying in the Inquisition, Heinrix does what he must. He tries to kill the traitor. Even with a romance (which was a revelation for me when I was checking out different endings). His loyalty, despite his love for RT, belongs to the Inquisition and the Imperium. Does he mourn RT? I think yes. But duty and service to humanity are above any feelings. Now about the first option, which I love dearly and which gives me a lot of thoughts. (but mostly I make incoherent sounds of admiration.)

(And it is important to say that I perceive the epilogues as the records of an Imperial historian-chronicler. And from this point of view I confirm to us that Heinrix is a traitor for the Imperium. As he himself said.)

Woman he loves more than life betrays more than just him. RT is a traitor to the Imperium, to all of humanity, to life. And instead of killing her, as Heinrix does in the not-true-romance. He tries to appeal to heart (which is nonexistent) and mind. He is the only one in the retinue who does so. And he doesn't try to join the traitor, like Jae tries to do. Heinrix still has principles. "Working for the good of humanity" and serving the C'tan are contrary to that. RT has become everything to him, he trusts her and believes in her, loyalty bordering on obsession. And consciously or not, the attempt to convince her looks like a mirror image of what RT did to him. She appealed to his heart and mind, appealed to his humanity, saved him from himself. And now he is trying to do the same for her, to save her.

Could it be that the sudden betrayal has deprived him of common sense? Especially considering that he abandoned the Inquisition, became a heretic and replaced everything with serving RT. And now that she has betrayed him, he has nothing left. Only a desperate attempt to bring her back. (I can imagine that his thoughts at this moment are saturated with a desperate "please come back"). As an Ordo Xenos, Heinrix should know that convincing someone who has no heart and soul is objectively stupid.

There is so much angst, hopelessness, desperate faith and loyalty here. For me, this is the height of romance.

(I threw a lot of words and now I shut up :D And sorry for the mistakes if there are any.)

[dairine-bonnet]

When Marazhai makes some ambiguous offers or seems to threaten RT, what does Heinrix think about it?

Marazhai: Do you want to know my world better? *Pushes RT off the edge of his speeder, then catches her hand* Do you want to look at my whip? Do you want to experience my agonizer?

Me: Heinrix, why are you silent now??? This xenos is trying to steal your lady right in front of you!

[b1dl0]

[fenlirias]

finally tried to figure out Kunrad's design. here's the snake man and my headcanons

[shaydh]

the feast

[neonhellscape]

this started out with p2 figuring out marazhai then after one drawing devolved into. whatever these are.

[kshert]

Here's a useless fact about RT. The game has game time inside which can be viewed when editing saves through Arcemi Save Game Editor.

So, if you complete all the quests and use the red warp paths, then RT arrives at Epitaph 6.5 years after the start of the game.

If you only do the main story quest (I actually did a couple more companion quests), then in about a year.

I don’t know how much time actually passed according to canon.

Personally, I like the idea that a lot of time passes between events. Then the slow burn with the interrogator becomes even more beautiful. In my save, MA only happens after 3 years.

Screenshot of save from MA.

[dairine-bonnet]

Can you see anything unusual in these two screenshots?