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plantswithme · 2 months ago

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okay i saw thunderbolts and im going to talk about it,

thunderbolts spoilers ahead!

okay first i wanna clear some things up—for those who haven't seen the film— on how they get called the new avengers. because i saw some stuff about this online 3 days ago and was so confused.

(i was scared walking into this film after reading people’s tweets and stuff, yes my own fault for reading them but after hearing about the post credit scene i was mad and upset so i said screw it and read some reviews. i really recommend you go see the movie or watch it somewhere and to not rely solely on other peoples reviews, i think forming your own opinion from the source material is important.)

okay, let’s get into it.

starting off with the end of the movie for those who just want to know about the whole new avengers name: at the end of the movie when the team are all walking towards valentina, all pissed off and about to take her in, she tricks them into going after her by slipping through an opening in some rubble and then they are met with a bunch of reporters at the other side. she walks up to a podium she must’ve put there and says that they’re the team she was building all along! (she wasn’t! she wanted bob to kill them all, she is taking credit for them coming together to stop her and to help bob)

she says that they’re the new avengers, announces it in front of a bunch of reporters, neither yelena or bucky or alexei or ava or john says that they are the new avengers, they are all so confused (everyone except for red guardian who is excited smh) bucky does not look happy in this scene.

so yeah, valentina is the one who gives them that name, they dont call themselves that.

it’s all valentina’s fault. she was doing human experimentation.. she is the bad guy in this movie.

onto my review: my review of the movie is that i enjoyed it, i liked the movie up until the ending and the post credit scene… when in saw those my opinion on this movie went down. if they had changed those two things and added a good sam cameo, i would have a much better opinion on this film.

it also felt a little slow during some parts, and ava killing taskmaster 20 minutes in was… i did not expect that. and im not a fan of them doing that. she deserved better and ava did too like having her kill her was just… ugh. why??

yelena’s story and the exploration of her childhood trauma did make me cry, but they could’ve gone into it even more. but it’s a marvel movie after all so :/

john is still an ass, his wife left him and took their son… i’m not surprised. never liked john and i never will.

alexei is annoying, what he said to yelena in that scene when she was really struggling was nice, i liked that part. i still don’t care for alexei as a character tho and now i hate him too, fuck him for saying shit about sam.

ava is so cool, i really enjoyed her in the movie, her abilities are so sick and she was funny. her and yelena making fun of john throughout the movie was funny, got me cracking up, they don’t like him at all lmaooo.

bob was sweet i like him, the scene where yelena runs to him to try and save him from the void fully taking over… i was crying, tears down my cheeks. and then the others came and joined the hug, it was a really nice moment. his and yelena’s friendship was so sweet and a highlight for me. she is so caring and kind, asking him if he was okay multiple times, not wanting anything to happen to him, wanting him to know that he the isn’t alone, telling him that she has struggles too, that there is a way out of that darkness. the scene where she tells him that some of the darkness in her has lessen already, oh i was emotional. i really enjoyed their bond in this film.

yelena going into the void… the fact that all of them went into the void after ava was like “we have to follow yelena!?” and after john said that he kind of saw something weird when bob touched him, implying that maybe yelena isn’t dead? maybe you just go somewhere?” that’s when bucky was like, okay, let’s do it, he still didn’t 100% know if they would all die or make it out alive but he was willing to risk it and i think that shows who bucky barnes is. that was one thing bucky did in this movie that i actually liked.

i mean i did like bucky in this film, some of his scenes felt off, and i know sebastian questioned many of his lines and stuff throughout filming, apparently questioning the director and kept asking “why?” a lot, even seeming grumpy too, according to his co-stars..

(adding to this on may 5th: it’s been a few days now and tbh after talking to friends and listening to mutuals’ opinions and thoughts, bucky is ooc in this film. sometimes he felt fine and other times he really didn’t. he’s shown as incompetent and stupid, multiple times, doesn’t read the papers/files he’s given, can’t even talk to reporters, and just seems off.. like bucky is sneaky and intelligent and badass and competent and much more and in TB he has two badass scenes and that’s kinda it? :/ like you mean to tell me that bucky barnes, winter soldier couldn’t have easily infiltrated valentina’s plans and with the the congress stuff been able to lie and act the part and gotten shit done without being caught? (like he said something to mel about finding out secret things or something, he was like “i could but i don’t do that anymore”) but i feel like he still would 🤷🏻‍♀️ like we saw him hijack a car in tfatws, he knows how to do stuff like that! bucky is more in character in mission fics ive read and it’s so upsetting that marvel can’t even find script writers who understand and get bucky. him in that post credit scene isn’t the bucky i know. or the bucky we were shown in cabnw or in tfatws. i won’t be ignoring the PCS bc of how sam is treated, it’s too important to do that. and on bucky’s end, im just, ugh. idk. i love him so much ofc i do, im just disappointed. it’s so upsetting to see both your favorite characters be done like this.)

him getting into congress to keep an eye on val was kind of interesting but didn’t go anywhere at all and i think bucky could actually do some good as a congressman, but it wasn’t shown like that at all.

he tries to get val's assistant mel to tell him stuff and eventuallty she does when she realises that valentina is up to some bad stuff. he had some good scenes, he was sarcastic, badass, grumpy and looked really handsome, but yeah :/ i wish he was in the film a bit more and had some more storyline. but he seems to be in a good place right now, at least, which im happy about, bc i want to see him happy. idk what he saw when he was in the void which could've been a cool thing to see but he really isn't the main character, yelena and bob are. he just makes a joke that he has a great past so he's fine, but i dont think he is.. what did he see in the void...

more stuff and some sambucky talk

it seems like sam and bucky had a disagreement bc bucky for some reason called sam about the copyright claim, having bucky call sam about it in the post credit scene and having him say it went bad is so weird to me. bc bucky knows that sam was asked to rebuild the avengers, bucky knows that, bucky is on sam's side!?(like bucky isn’t upset or mad at sam about that at all, like some ppl said he was smh) he’s upset bc he cares about sam and this whole situation is a mess and bc he messed up. but he wouldn’t even have messed up if he as written in character!! ugh.

like sam and bucky are grown men and i think they would talk this out and not just have one phone call that went poorly. like huh? they’re closer than that, they would communicate better than that, even if sam is angry and upset. like the way they spoke about sam and showed him makes him seem childish about the whole thing, it’s so fucking frustrating.

like having bucky say something like this to yelena: “i talked to sam and it’s a giant mess. he’s not happy which i understand and neither am i” or something!? again: UGH.

sam has every right to be frustrated, upset and angry. and he has the right to copyright the name. he is captain america. he was asked personally by the president to rebuild the avengers, and he told bucky that and now valentina just gives them that name? live on television i assume bc reporters and stuff, like ofc he’s going to do something about it?

people blaming sam and saying that he hurt bucky and nat's sister is fucking crazy, sam did nothing wrong. sam took legal action bc valentina named a random group of people the new avengers, again: on what i assume was live television. it had nothing to do with bucky or yelena be fucking serious.

also, i don’t think they planned on sticking together as a team after the events of the movie, like that to me was kinda obvious? that none of them seemed interested in being part of a team together, but then valentina had to go mess it up.

also in the marvel universe, people don’t like them as the new avengers at all. so in universe, in canon, they are not seen as the avengers to the people, which gives me hope for sam’s team.

it also seemed like no one else knew that sam is planning to build a new team of avengers, he doesn’t seem to have shared that with the media or anyone else other than bucky in the hospital scene, and leila knows too.

since it’s been 14 months since the events of the movie at the time of the post credit scene, i think sam has been in the works of forming a new team which is why he is taking legal action at that point, 14 months later, bc he is working on something.. i really hope that is the case.

so to the people who are mad at sam for this, y’all can fuck right off.

back to the post credit scene for just a second, alexei walks in wearing that stupid matching tracksuit with the “avengerZ”, insults sam and then the camera goes from alexei to yelena, bucky's reaction isn’t shown, i imagine he looks pissed.

then when alexei says that he had other tracksuits made for bucky and the others, bucky looks so done and kinda ignores him. no one seems to take alexei seriously in this scene, and for that im glad, they all seem to kinda see him as a clown, which pleases me.

do i think it’s upsetting and just plain bullshit that they didn’t have bucky stand up for sam? yes.

to me that is some awful writing, whoever wrote bucky in cabnw wrote him right. the person who wrote him in that post credit scene does not know bucky, does not know or seem to care about how much bucky truly cares and adores and admires and believes in sam, and loves sam.

as to why bucky is still working with that team after 14 months is unknown to me, i have some ideas in my head about the whole thing and if you have any ideas yourself, feel free to let me know, bc that part still doesn’t sit right with me… :/

so i cant say i see this movie as a full sambucky divorce, per say, bc to me bucky knows that it's sam's job to form a new team of avengers and that sam has the rights to the name, and not valentina or any of the others. bucky is not mad at sam for taking legal action, why the hell would he be?

do i think sam is angry with bucky? yes, to what degree im not sure of right now. like i said earlier i think they would have a talk about the whole situation and not just one phone call that went poorly.

i want them to be in a good place in canon :/

i will end this with saying fuck that post credit scene.

the fact that steve was mentioned in a more respectful way than sam is fucking disgusting. ava said something like "we know what happens when a good person like steve rogers get the serum. what happens when a man like bob gets powers?" steve wasn’t insulted and made to look like an asshole in the post credit scene, sam was.

sam wilson deserves better, anthony mackie deserves better. sam wilson fans are allowed to be upset, we're allowed to express ourselves how ever we want, sam wilson has been sidelined and ignored since the end of tfatws and before that too.

having valentina announce them as the new avengers is so incredibly disappointing and disrespectful and seeing that they’re still a team after 14 months too, is disappointing and makes no sense to me. at least the world doesn’t see them as the new avengers, they don’t seem to like them at all, so at least there’s that.

i swear if marvel doesn’t give sam a team that he leads soon i am going to be convicted of a crime.

if anyone actually took their time and read all this thank you for reading, even if this post is a little all over the place, i hope it makes sense. have a lovely day

#thunderbolts spoilers #tb spoilers #thunderbolts* spoilers #sambucky #a part of me wants to ignore that post credit scene. wants to ignore that bucky is working with them. wants bucky to go home to sam after+#the events of the movie. and things are fine but a part of me also wants to make sense of it all somehow.#make it make sense how bucky and sam are still on good terms in canon when bucky is on that team.#how i can make it make sense right now is that bucky is somehow for some reason not allowed to leave the team and him and sam talk about it #thats kinda the idea i had like a year ago when we first heard about them being seperated. that it wasn't bucky's choice...#but sam is allowed to be mad at bucky for staying on that team.. so ugh. trying to make sense of canon right now is a mess

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fuzzbraiin · 1 month ago

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i need people to understand that saying sam and bucky are going to have a civil war like steve and tony… is hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby.

#like the most is them fighting like they did in tfatws #a civil war event could only happen to stevetony… because it’s stevetony #sambucky #stevetony

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marvelousyahtzee · 1 year ago

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sweetcocopowder · 1 year ago

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For your milestone can i order a sambucky heart fill confess with the prompts, another nightmare and can i kiss you.

I found your blog recently from the cyberpunk fics so to know you also write mcu stuff is rad. ✌️ you write excellently man.

Prompt 5 | SamBucky

Synopsis: Bucky wakes from a nightmare and Sam is there to help him through it.

Word Count: 1.8K

Warnings: Trauma.

Notes: thank you so much. i haven't written Sambucky stuff in ages but i reckon i cooked up something fucking gawd.

For once in Sam’s life, he was the only one up in the shared apartment. It’s quiet in the place but New York never sleeps as everyone says. Which is true. The hum of cars can be heard through the shutters and the thin walls. It’s small, but it’s comfortable. And cheap enough because hero work doesn’t really pay the best. Or at all.

It had taken a lot of convincing to make the former Winter Soldier move in with him. Bucky had been struggling with keeping his apartment. Rent in the great city of New York isn’t cheap. And being in between transfers with his veteran payments, he isn’t all too finically stable. It’s a lot of court cases to convince the Government that he isn’t going to go deadly assassin again after his time in Wakanda.

Sam nurses a two-litre bottle of orange juice, chugging down as much as he can. He knows for a fact that Bucky will want some of the stuff in the morning, but he couldn’t give too damns at the moment. The bastard ate his leftover muffins that Sarah had given him. So, this is pay back. Even though Bucky didn’t know Sam was keeping those aside for himself. Orange juice can be bought. Sarah’s muffins can’t be made.

At first, the muffled shout that hits Sam’s ears is soft enough that he thinks it’s some crack job outside. Shouting about random shit or that Thanos is upon them again. But when the next shout comes, Sam is quick to put down the juice.

He walks to Bucky’s door a little too urgently for his own good. No more noise comes, but he already has a feeling that Bucky has woken himself up. He hesitates to knock, his knuckles hovering over the wood.

He’s aware of Bucky’s nightmares. The ones that don’t seem to leave no matter how much he talks about them or opens up. Some things don’t leave. Especially with the shit that Bucky has gone through in his life. He can’t blame the man and he doesn’t judge him for it either. Sam finally knocks, softly as to not scare the century old man.

“Bucky?” Sam calls just loud enough to be heard through the door.

There’s shuffling on the other side before the door opens up a tad. The New York lights shine in through open windows, illuminating Bucky as a dark shadow peeping through a hand width crack. Even in the dark though, Sam can deep just how tired Bucky is. His short hair spikes up every which way and he only wears a bear of boxers.

“Why are you up?” Bucky asks with a furrowed expression.

“Couldn’t sleep,” Sam lies. “Another nightmare?”

The vet looks Sam up and down, but not in a threatened way. There’s so much going on his mind right now that Sam can almost hear his thoughts. He opens the door a little further, looking past Sam to try and figure out just why he’s up so late. It’s close to two in the morning.

“Do you want to talk about it?” Sam asks as he leans against the door frame.

This isn’t out of the norm. Getting stuff like this out of Bucky was almost like dealing with a child at first. But Sam had patience and it won over. He hasn’t done a group therapy with other soldiers dealing with their own ptsd in months. But he thinks he’s alright at the moment with helping Bucky. It makes him feel full. Despite how odd that sounds.

Bucky’s eyes flicker to the ground for a moment before he opens the door wider. He lets Sam in with a grumbled, “Come in then.” He doesn’t close the door fully, leaving it open a crack.

Sam makes himself at home by sitting on the edge of the bed and leaning over to turn on the lamp. Bucky throws on a random white shirt from the ground before sitting on the bed as well. He places his face in his palms, his Vibranium arm reflecting light from the bedside lamp. Sam doesn’t pay it any attention, the awe having worn off ages ago.

“Was it the train again?” Sam asks.

“No,” Bucky shakes his head.

Sam hesitates before asking the next question. He’s read over Bucky’s reports once. Once and never again. He knows from the reports on what experimentations Hydra had put the soldier through. But hearing the stories from Bucky’s lips is enough to make Sam feel nauseous.

“Do you remember the year?” Sam asks.

He’s realized that in asking so, it seems to help ground Bucky. His memories of going in and out of cryo are so jumbled and hazy that he didn’t realize just how many years he was losing.

“I-“ Bucky pauses, “I couldn’t tell you.”

“What happened this time round?”

The vet sits up straight but doesn’t dare make eye contact with Sam. He tries to smooth out his hair but it’s too no avail. It sticks up every which way, as if his hair is still not use to being so short.

“I’ve told you how I was used to train the other super soldiers. The ones that hydra made after me,” Bucky asks rhetorically before he continues on. “There was this one in particular, I forget his name now. Gone with everything else. But he wouldn’t listen. Didn’t understand that there was no way out of this.”

“You got out,” Sam interrupts.

Bucky’s icy eyes finally glance his way. “After how many years?”

Sam only hums at that, not sure how to answer. He waits for Bucky to continue, his gaze never leaving him.

“Then finally one training session,” Bucky endures as he hunches back over, twiddling his thumbs between his knees, “he snapped. He came at me with blood lust. And with everything that was pent up, and with me being worn down and just so damn tired from all the work… he easily overcame me. He beat me bloody. Beyond bloody even. I can still remember the pain, the bruises that didn’t leave for months afterwards. Even with the serum in me, my wounds didn’t heal for weeks,” Bucky voices cracks here and there as he tries to cover it up with clearing his throat.

But Sam can see the memory playing as freshly as if it’s happening now behind those pale blue eyes. A shiver runs down Bucky’s spine, the hairs on the back of his neck standing on end.

Sam frowns, exhaling slowly before reaching out and places a hand on the vet’s shoulder. Bucky doesn’t flinch away, instead looks to Sam like a hurt street pup.

“That pain is in the past,” Sam enquires softly. “Nothing can change that. But maybe you’re holding onto it because it’s familiar. Or because you thought you did something wrong. Maybe because you thought you could keep that man in line.”

Bucky exhales shakily, his gaze becoming long once again. “That’s the thing. I did set him in line at the end. They- They made me-” he clears his throat, looking back down at his twiddling thumbs. “They made me put him down like some dog, Sam.”

“So you think you didn’t do him just?” Sam asks, squeezing Bucky’s shoulder.

The soldier shrugs softly. “I’m not sure on that. Is it bad that I think it’s more just putting him down than allowing him to become Hydra’s little plaything?”

Sam is quiet for a heartbeat, not wanting to stay silent for too long. “No. But at the same time, I don’t think you should hold yourself accountable because you were both under Hydra’s thumb. Both being played a game you didn’t you head or tail of.”

“Doesn’t change the fact I did it,” Bucky grumbles.

“But it’s the fact that you’re trying to do better on top of that, Buck.”

Bucky glances at Sam, opening his mouth to snap at him for calling him that. But he stops himself, his gaze flickering off again. A taxi horn honks loudly outside, but neither of them pays it any attention.

“Look,” Sam squeezes Bucky’s shoulder again before sliding down and grabbing onto his forearm gently. “Those things you did. That person you were. Is all gone now. Wakanda made sure of that. There’s only Bucky.”

The vet looks to Sam’s hand on his arm, a sad look coming to his eyes. But he receives a soft, sweet smile that warms Sam’s heart. He’s won tonight. Even if it’s a little victory, he’s won.

“You’re too sweet on me, Sam,” Bucky mumbles.

It seems so out of character yet not at the same time. Sam raises a brow at him, waiting for him to continue on with what else is on his mind. A warm, metal hand is placed over his own instead and Sam can feel his heart skip a beat. But he collects himself quickly.

It’s hard though when Bucky looks at him like that. With a soft smile on his lips and his warm yet icy gaze looking directly at him. He’s always had a staring problem, but Sam’s never been truly bothered by it. The soldier that Sam always sees is gone in this moment. It’s just the Bucky he’s grown to know that’s under all the fucked up shit.

“I’m going to ask you something stupid right now,” Bucky says, his voice low and barely a whisper. But Sam hears it all the same in the night.

“Go right ahead,” Sam blurts out a little too quickly.

Bucky turns to Sam a little bit more, squeezing his hand in the process.

“This might be one sided but I’ve lived too long to care,” Bucky chuckles breathlessly to himself, as if what he’s just said his humorous. Sam can’t take his eyes off him, swallowing a thick lump in his throat. “Can I, kiss you?”

Sam short circuits, staring blankly at Bucky for a tad too long. He feels his heart skip a beat again, as if he’s about to have a heart attacked or something, blinking a few times a tad shocked. The vet sighs deeply, pulling away his hand from Sam’s.

“I’m sorry,” Bucky says as he looks down.

But Sam snaps out of it, grabbing onto his Vibranium arm to draw Bucky closer. He crashes their lips together a little too harshly, but he doesn’t care. He doesn’t know what’s taken a hold of him, but having this, flag waving above their heads now saying it’s the all go is all Sam needed. The kiss is warm and everything Sam would have expected.

He’s seen the little flirts and flashes of who Bucky use to be in the 40’s. He’s heard Steve talk about him from before he got all jacked with super serum. And Bucky doesn’t disappoint.

Bucky pulls away first with a breathless chuckle. He holds onto Sam’s hand tightly, as if he’s afraid he’ll run away from him. But Sam is still as stiff as ice, frozen in place as he looks to Bucky as if this isn’t real. If it was this easy to shut Sam up at times he would have done this much, much sooner.

Hope your enjoyed this ;)

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