#showtoonzfan

[aster-spiral-30]

…The block & report buttons aren’t enough. I need to escort these evil fuckers to Hell myself.

from @showtoonzfan on Tumblr, and Twitter.

Bitch, you’re going to HELL Hell (Viv & Raph)

[tooningin]

I had a ton of free time in one of my classes so I got this done far quicker than intially expected

Anyway, hope you enjoy! As always feedback appreciated!

@bump-inthe-night @showtoonzfan @flower-boi16 @hasbrohotel @mrfleshwizard

[gartenofbanny]

Alright, posts on both YouTube and this account may be slowed because college started, but I did find something interesting on Twitter that @showtoonzfan posted on theirs.

In all honesty, Moxxie's behavior in Unhappy Campers is pretty insulting to theater kids. Keep in mind that Moxxie throughout the episode wanted to get the attention of teenagers just so he can catch a killer that was already caught in the beginning of the episode.

Wait, on second thought scratch that last sentence because he was moreso focused on getting attention from minors than doing his fucking job.

Moxxie is a character who ALWAYS wants to get the job done professionally as evident in Spring Broken when both he and Millie went out to kill the rest of their targets. Saying that this is one of the "biggest recurring traits" is really asinine. If anything he shows the exact opposite trait.

And don't get me started on him being a dick to Millie just because he was jealous. He never gets mad at Millie for anything, but in Unhappy Campers his head was so far up his ass that he calls out Millie for "screwing around while on the job" when he did the EXACT SAME THING.

There's really nothing about Moxxie in Unhappy Campers that was in previous scenes. Moxxie in Unhappy Campers is the exact opposite of how he was portrayed in Season 1.

Anyway, that's all thank you all for reading and I hope you all have a nice day! ❤️

[computer-cacophony]

To be completely fr....

At this point, I think the only reason I'm in the HH/HB fandoms is because I want to like it. I like some of the concepts, I've heard good things about the shows, I want to like them, I do like some of the designs, but a lot of things (the writing, some behind-the-scenes stuff) rub me the wrong way (some even brought up by @showtoonzfan), and it's hard for me to get behind certain things and some of the actors/the creator.

At this point, I think I'm just gonna rework some of my HH/HB OCs on Toyhouse into more original characters and finally leave the fandom.

[chaifootsteps]

do you think there's any weight to this whole thing about Viv and SVA?

https://www.tumblr.com/showtoonzfan/750648086951510016

I'm a little on the fence. I wouldn't doubt for a minute that she's more disliked than SVA lets on, but come on, how are you going to prove a thing like that?

Especially now that you've got people emailing SVA asking if Viv traced. Yeah guys, they're totally gonna confirm that one, and while they're at it, they're changing their official slogan to "SVA: We Breed Thieves and Liars."

[helluvabossrewrite45]

Quick rewrite of 'Western's Energy'

The original scene was a bit off putting for me, just because of how one sided this conflict feels. Here i'll try to give it more weight even if it may not be good (in that case, feel free to call it out, criticism is pretty important for me, especially as a writer)

Anyways, credit to @chaifootsteps and @showtoonzfan for their ideas that are implemented in this au (with chaifootsteps whole post about stolas lack of accountability and showtoonzfans tags to it here: https://www.tumblr.com/showtoonzfan/718418915483582464/chaifootsteps-hate-how-vivzie-keeps?source=share)

[crooked-wasteland]

The SpindleHorse team is full of two-faced individuals. There’s a leaked screenshot of crew member (@hntrgurl13 on Twitter), telling both Lackadaisy and Farfetched to “suck a dick” on Vivziepop’s discord server and bragging about Helluva Boss winning a Streamy award…yet they told people to “support all indie animation” not too long ago on their Twitter account; what a hypocrite. This behavior is disgusting and only proves how toxic that studio is.

Credit to @showtoonzfan for this. Frankly, I think it is fine if you want to be a nasty petty person, but to publicly have such a different face, as well as then use that mask to weaponize an entire fanbase of abusers and harrassers. That's just where I have to say:

This is a situation of a creator fostering a community that is a reflection of the creator.

That dig at Ashley was personal and ugly. But you know, the HB Fandom is saying now that people can say whatever they want behind the scenes. But if anyone else says anything negative about Helluva Boss in private, they are now two-faced hypocrites.

It's the moving of goalposts for me, to be honest.

They don't have to pretend to be supportive of other projects. They can just keep their mouth shut and be a real person behind the scenes as well as an honest person in the public eye. To pretend to be a supporter or a friend is so much worse than just keeping quiet.

But this is Vivienne. This is just a continuation of posting the Lackadaisy email. This is a continuation of Sam Haft and his goons platforming the false reports to bury the concept stills controversy. And just a continuation of being angry at Ashley and Michael for the Hazbin Hotel situation and trying to act like someone announcing their employment status is somehow a breach of an NDA. Which is unenforceable as an NDA agreement due to the nature of the business.

It's the face of someone who doesn't know how to be a real person and likable at the same time. The only time Vivienne is kind or supportive is only ever in this platformed, showy way where it is obviously a performance. It feels fake every time she does it.

Like, just don't say anything. And telling other hard-working teams to suck a dick when one isn't even out and the other only has a pilot. That's not petty. That's just a nasty, mean, hateful person. Petty is saying congratulations, your 2 season series with a whole team of independently contracted artists and animators beat 2 story time channels and a parody channel that goes out of its way to be as repulsive as possible. Look at you winning that low hanging fruit. Good job.

[woomycritiques543]

Vivziepop is a shotacon

@showtoonzfan Do you know about the art Vivziepop made of Styx and Damian where she drew Damian, a 16 year old boy, in a garter belt (sexualized lingere) while having him flirt with a 40 year old man? 

Because that exists.

[newbtheveryawesomeandkindanewby]

HAZARD HOTEL BINGO SHEET:

(@showtoonzfan and @multifandomgrabage, here it is)

[theonetruenerd-blog]

Heyooooo.

Wanted to post a HB critique 2 years ago, shortly after Ozzie’s came out. Wanted to wait for S2 instead and see if my critiques are still valid.

S1 is over, and S2 is halfway done…it’s time.

I wanted to show some videos and gifs but tumblr wouldn’t let me post it so fuck that.

I’m gonna explain it through text instead XD.

Basically Brandon Rogers posted a video in May 2018 about him reaching 4 million subscribers.

In that video, he was having an argument/fight with Lucas Cruikshank (Fred).

And Lucas said these lines when it came to Brandon’s content.

“I predict you lean on the same crutch you always do. Like having a new character come out and take the stage.”

Then he also mentions that Brandon also relies on “no-talent actor friends” for his videos. And finally, how Brandon also resorts to always shoot people in the head in his videos…besides 💩 jokes.

…sound familiar?

HB…a show with too many storylines that were set up and then not even resolved.

Remove the “no talent” part, and you have an overabundance of celebrity guest stars that drain the shows budget.

Violent fight scenes that happen so quick that you can’t tell what’s happening.

And of course…a show with no plan or any sense of a direction.

Whew. If you agree, cool. Disagree, cool. Like or love the show, cool.

Now we have HH in Jan…

Byeeeeeee

@chaifootsteps @showtoonzfan @angellic-critique @dorkynerd23 @almacambiondaughterofsaleos @gartenofbanny

[showtoonzfan]

What happened to the Showtoonzfan who drew Hazbin Hotel? The one who didn't care about Helluva Boss's flaws? I miss it when you drew fanart, not tear into stuff and pick apart every detail. It's disappointing to watch you turn into an unsatisfied monster.

Wow uhm……well that was back when I enjoyed the shows and thought it was an unflawed masterpiece, as well as I saw Viv as an amazing person. It was also when my humor was edgy sixth grade level stuff, thinking swears and anything of shock value was automatically funny. Things change, opinions change, people change. I grew out of my edgy faze and learned to have a more open mind to storytelling and critique, writing in general. But if you liked it better when my mind was blank then that’s fine lol.

[aster-spiral-30]

It’s weird that you’d write this @showtoonzfan . I mean we all know that Viv M is an atrocious writer with poorly thought up & executed ideas.

But…

Uhhh where’s the badass mobster Angel Dust ostensibly was/is?

All I see is a gay prostitute stereotype, & a board for Viv and the rape-wanker to project their rape fetishes and their sexual degeneracy upon —their contempt for gay people, victims of sex crimes, and sex workers is laid bare.

I’d rather have the mobster character than the garbage we actually got.

He’s too much of a coward to shoot Valentino …but he’ll shoot at Sir Pentious in the pilot episode, & some nobodies in episode 4.

He could’ve become a martyr fighting The Exorcists in episode 8 …but Viv & that other sick fuck can’t abuse him in Heaven.

[gartenofbanny]

Time to talk about a tweet Viv made and give my own take on them, borrowed this screenshot from @showtoonzfan because Viv blocked me on Twitter.

First of all, the fact that a Helluva Boss fan had to make sense of Loona's behavior in Seeing Stars when Viv herself didn't bother to do so is a pretty huge red flag because once again, the fandom of this show is doing the job for the writers and Viv is just..not doing the writing.

I don't get what "understanding" that Loona and Blitzo reached in Queen Bee. Loona saw Blitzo being a drunken mess, it was negatively affecting him, and she took care of him as a result. What "understanding" did they even come to?

How was Blitzo ganging up on Loona when all he wanted from her was to be nicer to clients? And let's not also forget that Loona literally gave Blitzo the idea to fire her. She literally says "Why don't you grow a pair and replace me?" Loona was guilt tripping Blitzo and insulting his manhood at the same time. If anything it was Loona who was ganging up on Blitzo, not the other way around.

Vivziepop says that Seeing Stars Loona was acting out of deeply rooted anger and betrayal. My brother in Christ, Loona gave Blitzo the idea to replace her and she should know damn well that Blitzo wouldn't replace her on a whim.

This just makes me dislike Loona even more because now the creator of the show is essentially confirming that Loona gets angry over some constructive criticism...reminds me of someone else if I'm being honest.

[starcanwrecked-confessions]

showtoonzfan you're so real ive had a general aversion to charted because i swear the only time people bring charlotte up is when Ted's in the same sentence?????? i adore charlotte so much :(

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[chaifootsteps]

https://www.tumblr.com/showtoonzfan/736799525643206656/viv-salty-over-fans-discussing-on-what-charlie-is

Chaile’s supposed to be a fracking Goat!? But didn't Viv said she’s supposed to be a doll, tho?

Yes.

[z0urcherri]

Tbf I’m not really into Helluva Boss either.

At all. To me, Loona is the only thing I like about it. She’s great.

I just can’t get into it because of the whole musical thing.

What are your reasons? If it’s okay for me to ask.

If you have a few minutes to spare, look into showtoonzfan's blog bc they have a plethora of posts explaining (including pictures) VivziePop from a toxic production management perspective. But she was also accused of grooming minors awhile back, like actually sexually harassing them via calls and text.