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kwistowee · 1 month
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Darth Teeth will not be returning to thirst trap us again. Happy Birthday, Manny. Go do bigger and better things!
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janiedean · 6 years
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Hi Janie! So, I admit to a bit of ignorance pertaining the whole “anti”-debacle. I’ve seen anti and anti-anti posts that say the same thing, sometimes it’s about morally offensive things, sometimes about completely unrelated stuff and I can’t make heads nor tails of it, especially since there isn’t really a wealth of actual information? Just rants... *sigh* If it’s possible, do you think you could explain what the problem is? (Does that need to be in plural?) and the „sides“? Thank you! ❤️
anon you asked the question of the century I’m afraid X°D THAT SAID let’s... see if I can make this understandable.
so: the anti debate is... pretty much tied to the whole ‘politics in fandom discourse’ and you can’t separate the two of them sadly. of course I come from the not anti side of fandom so what do I know. anyway, premise:
what happened is that in the last two/three years, whether we liked it or not, the debate in fandom has moved from ‘my ship is better than yours’ to ‘my ship is better than yours because it’s more progressive/woke’, which has gone hand in hand with the political fandom views of any media product, ie ‘you can’t watch that because it lacks representation’ or ‘that show is crap because it’s not woke enough or doesn’t treat that topic well’ and so on, and with a tendency to think that if you ship anything you want it to be canon because it only is worth anything if it becomes such (which imo is bullshit but never mind);
this has moved on to also judging people based on their ships, as in: ‘ship X is wrong because it’s problematic for X reason therefore if you ship it you support X irl and you’re problematic and you need to be stopped’. such as ‘thor/loki is wrong because it’s incest so if you ship thor/loki you’re okay with incest irl and you want to bang your siblings if you have any’, which is a ridiculous notion but this goes also hand in hand with the fact that people have suddenly decided to trash all the psychology that confirmed how violent videogames don’t influence reality and now think that liking something problematic influences you irl because they don’t grasp the difference between fandom and mass-media consumption of a mass-media product;
they also don’t grasp the concept of catharsis through media nor of the really basic concept that most normal people who see themselves in fiction don’t take the entire package but relate to specific things;
keeping THAT in mind:
the whole ‘anti’ thing, as ‘people being opposed to a ship or a trend’ is basically people saying that you cannot ship a thing or be into a problematic character or kink because it says something about you and not about your fictional preferences and actively go around being assholes to people who ship the thing while at the same time gatekeeping/policing their own ships which are of course Purer Than The Others and bringing politics into it, too;
this also goes with a frankly problematic (AND I’M USING THE WORD NON-IRONICALLY) attitude that those people have of equating age gaps with pedophilia always and considering children people older than thirteen/fourteen, which automatically makes them think of people who ship age gaps even in between adults pedophiles (I kid you not a friend who’s over thirty in a rship with a person fifteen years older got told that their rship was pedophilia because their partner was an adult when they were a child at some point in their lives. I mean, IMAGINE THAT.);
to give the to-go example these days because it’s sadly the worst: sw sequel trilogy fandom. rey/kylo has been targeted by antis as the to-go Most Problematic Ship because in order:a) enemies to lovers as a trope which is of course abusive if the good side is a woman (more on that later) b) both are white (so it’s racist to not ship her with the non-white people in the light side *roll eyes*)c) they have a ten years age gap (so it’s pedophilia even if rey’s of age and she kicked his ass more than once)d) he’s not technically good looking so it sets people’s worst instincts offe) these people don’t buy into the fact that people can be redeemed so they decided he’s absolutely Not Redeemable and so onf) it’s an m/f couplenow, rey/lo is admittedly a fairly tame ship as far as problematic goes - it’s honestly your typical enemies to friends to lovers trope that’s been in media since the beginning of time, but according to these ppl it’s The Worst and if you dare being into it you must be a pedophile, racist, misogynist (or internalized misogynist), straight person (because of course only straight ppl ship m/f) - and yes, being straight is a problem but more on that later. but since you can ship her with finn (black) or you could ship finn and poe (black and latino actors) if you’re not into either you’re problematic. too bad that if you ship finn and poe (WHICH I DO) these days it’s... let’s just say I’ve seen a list of ‘problematic f/p writers’ where the reasons for the PROBLEMATIC was that they took a fluff ship and wrote it dubcon. oKAY. also pre tlj fandom was full of block lists for r/eylo shippers where you’d get the name plus ALL REASONS WHY THEY HAD TO BE HARASSED OUT OF FANDOM which you will imagine does not sit well with me since that’s... like... the most fascist thing you could do (NO REALLY BAN LISTS OF PERSONE NON GRATAE WITH REASONS WHY THEY WERE IS A THING THAT HAPPENS IN DICTATORSHIPS AND SOCIETY WHERE EVERYTHING IS CENSORED LIKE BANNED BOOKS) in this circumstance, but hey, if you’re anti-reylo and you’re doing the above you’re just doing the work of the lord because you’re saving people from the Horrible Problematic Ship, and meanwhile I don’t want anything to do with a fandom where people do block lists for how you write your fanfic IN GENERAL. like, concrit is more than welcome but lists? please don’t fucking kid me;
I used r/eylo as an example because it’s the epitome of what anti-shipping ends at, but there’s also sh/eith from voltron which is two guys, with a seven years age gap but both are adults now and were older than 15 when they met, who have the sweetest less problematic relationship ever and people who ship.. the other rival ship decided that it’s pedophilia, SUPPORTS INCEST on the grounds of one of the two tell the other ‘you’re like a brother to me’ SERIOUSLY and that it’s abusive and by shipping it you’re a pedophile. k;
also, this entire thing ties with the fact that these people seem to think that having sex when older than fourteen is somehow bad, which means that if you write someone under the age of 18 (and sometimes NOT EVEN THAT see voltron above) you’re automatically a *pedophile* even if teenagers aren’t children and fictional characters are fictional and never hurt anyone, and that goes hand in hand with the fact that these people seem to largely be against kink;
specifically: ‘bdsm is abusive’ (???), ‘you can’t be a feminist if you like kink’ (OKAY???), ‘if you read/write noncon fanfic you have a problem and you’re terrible’ etc, with a specific subset being against specific kinks that play on a certain angle ie daddy kink and so on which are PEDOPHILIA now, which is again an extremely puritanical way to see the world, not progressive;
at this point we have a situation where a bunch of *antis* specifically target people who are into *problematic* things whether it’s ships, characters, kinks and so on and are going like THINK OF THE CHILDREN half of the time. the children being them, of course.
at this point we have the other discourse we need to have ie about the age and sexuality of the people involved in fandom and why it matters:
now: a lot of fandom is made up of women. it’s statistics. a significant statistical part of the old guard (25+-30+ people ie my generation plus the previous 40+ older generation) is cis women (who can be straight or bi but are attracted to men) who went into fandom writing m/m slash. a significant part of this group is into either problematic ships or kink and such on. but in our understanding of fandom, the key terms were ship and let ship + your kink is not my kink + don’t like don’t read. as in: outside your usual MY SHIP IS BETTER THAN YOURS wank was generally understood that people liked things different than yours and that you had no business being an ass over it, and back in the day warnings were at the beginning - when I went into fandom warnings were not a thing. now there’s warnings everywhere which is GOOD and guess why ao3 was made by... the old guard/old fans, which of course are not very pleased with being told they’re pedophiles or perverts for shipping a thing or, *drum rolls*, that they fetishize gay men by shipping m/m or writing m/m porn, and are fairly vocal about it;
on the other side, this new wave of younger fans who thinks is progressive along with older fans who are assholes/most likely grooming the youngers (because this anti shipping thing is seriously cult-like at this point) calling the old generation all the stuff above and pushing the idea that they want ‘old straight ciswomen out of fandom’ because ‘they have gross ideas and THEY DON’T WANT TO READ OUR GROSS FIC’ and such things. we can also talk for ten years about how the new wave has decided that straight = insult but again, tumblr politics. all goes hand in hand;
so basically the sides are ‘younger fans who thinks they are progressive but are actually being puritan af’ vs ‘older fans who want to do their damned thing’ with some people obviously crossing into the others’s territory;
(and mind that not counting SW, most of the anti drama happens in fandoms for... animated cartoons and the likes - vo/ltron, ste/ven universe and so on, which says a lot about the age discourse, but nvm that);
now, the problem is that by telling some woman older than you that she can’t safely explore her sexual fantasies/kinks in fiction about fake characters you’re basically doing the same thing as policing women’s sexual fantasies that has been going on since the dawn of time, so it’s actually hella misogynist, and the fact that it goes with people saying that you can’t be a feminist who likes kink and that kink is abuse/misogynist... is still policing women’s sexualities, irl and fictionally, and that’s what they’re doing at the end of it;
on top of that, they’re also policing what non-straight, non-female fans who ship problematic stuff do and most of all, there’s the shipping to cope bush of thorns.
about shipping to cope:
now, this entire system had to, at some point, deal with the very true fact that a lot of people who are into problematic stuff/kinks/noncon (not all of them of course) engage with that material to work out their issues - a lot of the time it’s abuse victims writing it to elaborate on their abuse and take control of it and so on and usually... a lot of them aren’t even straight (honestly, almost everyone I know who ships th/ramsay ie noncon torture ship that I personally don’t like myself is... not straight, and a lot of them do ship to cope) and telling them you cannot handle your recovery with whichever system they see fit is... RUDE at best. which is why there’s antis who are like ‘shipping to cope is fine but JUST IF IT’S TO COPE’ which means that in order to be given the green light you have to out yourself and tell people you were abused and other antis who are like ‘SHIPPING TO COPE IS WRONG BECAUSE YOU JUST MAKE IT WORSE’ which is... not a thing that happens to everyone and actually every psychologist worth their salt in the world disagrees (or better: for some people it’s bad to do but for others it’s cathartic, and the latter shouldn’t be not able to do it because the former can’t blacklist or because kids on the internet decided that shipping to cope is bad);
so a lot of antis are actually crossing into the territory of wanting to police how people handle their own experience of abuse (honestly once someone told a friend who explained them from a professional pov the valid of problematic/violent art as a cathartic, healthy way to deal with you shit, and who told them that they were an abuse victim who dealt with it in different ways, to GO ON GOOGLE AND LOOK UP HOW IT WORKS and that person knew shit about it period just to say one) and telling people they can’t process their abuse in THAT way but just in THIS way, feeding into the idea that there’s a right way to process abuse and a wrong way to react to it which in turns becomes good victim vs bad victim;
(and then you wonder why they hate kylo ren... who’s a Bad Victim under the definition of the word but hey whatever)
and this is all thrown under the rug of ‘we need to police problematic attitudes in fandoms’ which is 100% bullshit because if you run into someone specifically problematic you should explain them on a one-on-one basis, not do the witch hunt, and you should never presume to police how people handle their own shit, never mind that 90% of the time the so-called problematic material is consumed by a small percentage of people and you can choose to like, not read it;
and by the way, 90% of the actually problematic fandom trends don’t get called out because it wouldn’t be progressive (I can talk for ages about how it’s really worrying that ppl headcanon characters as X following stereotypes that are actually hurtful for the category in question but since the hc = a minority then it’s always okay) but that’s an entire other problem;
tldr: the anti side, as much as they want to think they’re not doing it, are actively policing the content that other people put online based on supposed ‘moral’ standards which 90% of the time aren’t even true (a 16yo in a relationship with a 20yo is NOT pedophilia period) and even going as far as ‘I’ll press charges to the FBI because X wrote underage fic’ when according to the US law if it’s fictional characters it doesn’t count as such and it only does if real recognizable minors are involved (and in that case it shouldn’t be happening in the first place) and those people might be whoever, and for all they support feminism they also end up being incredibly misogynist.
or, just because I like to use my own experiences as an example: this year I had the horrid idea of replying to a post made obviously by anti people where I told them that straight women writing m/m ie what they’re attracted to of course have more in common with a guy into guys in that sense and not with a lesbian since they’re not attracted to women and that writing m/m wasn’t inherently fetishizing shit. since then I’ve had people:
informing me I MUST have internalized homophobia
assuming shit about my sex life that wasn’t even true including which positions I like in bed (because of course straight women only identify with the gay bottom so they’re capitalizing off that experience when some of us don’t)
assuming I was disgusted at the idea of writing lesbian sex (false, I wrote it when I was in the mood)
informing me that writing fanfic about canonical m/m characters wasn’t activism and I shouldn’t presume I was one for that (I never said I considered it such) but at the same time these people think reporting incest fic to ao3 is... activism, but nvm that
telling me that I was a sad old bitch who needed to find a husband and grow up (I MEAN NOT EVEN IN THE FIFTIES) (I’m 29 btw hardly old) because it was the only way my life could have had sense
informing me that of course I was that horrible since I’m italian and all italians beat their wives (NOT XENOPHOBIC AT ALL)
accusing me of writing torture porn with gay characters to get off (never wrote torture porn once in my life, not with gay characters nor any character)
(most ppl I know into torture porn aren’t straight btw)
telling me that I didn’t understand my own attraction to men
assuming that my parents must have thrown me out of the house at some point, that I had no friends and that I never got laid
and in another occasion I got sent fanart of a ship that I said upset me because I had the gall to tell people to leave the shippers alone but hey what do I know
and a bunch of other stuff I won’t bother you with but that to me sounds hella misogynist (I mean, GO BACK TO THE KITCHEN AND FIND A HUSBAND, srsly?). spoilers: I never write noncon, I’m into a few kinks but most are literally harmless, the wildest thing I’m into writing is... 100% consensual d/s sex, the most problematic thing I’m into is thor/loki and I hadn’t shipped it until I realized that... it was cathartic (ps: no, I don’t think irl incest is okay as a general thing) and for the rest I’m famous for... being the person who almost never kills people in fandom X°D I mean, I got that shit and I laughed about it, but what if they sent it to an abuse victim or someone who actually got kicked out of the house? who knows, but sure af they only seem to care about victims when it’s convenient to them and when the victims agree. *shrug* but the above is absolutely okay if you tell that to a straight cis woman who doesn’t particularly feel like writing f/f sex (which is ANOTHER plot point but never mind that I can’t possibly go into how tumblr has decided that f/f relationships without sex are the Thing Everyone Should Aspire To and everything else is a problem including lesbians having kinky sex). anyway, that was all antis. heck, a round of the shit above was started because an anti-ship blog found an oldass ask related to that wank, so.
tldr: the point is that we’re always talking about the same old dumb fandom war ie my ship is better than yours and my fave is better than yours, but now the arguments aren’t just about ships, are about which one is most moral or pure or non-problematic and if you dare being into anything else for your own reasons in your own life (I forgot friends who’ve been told they abuse their partners because they’re into kink, WHAT A DAY) when the *else* is fictional (ie doesn’t exist) and you don’t even do the thing irl or would want to but just want to explore it fictionally, then you are that problematic thing and so *you* are problematic and guess what, there’s a nice witch hunt starting and -
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HOW SURPRISED I AM.
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I mean, it’s 90% wanting to censor people and all of that time it’s useless that they dress it as ‘FIGHTING PEDOPHILES’ because thing is, now that everyone rolls their eyes at it because you think ‘right, real pedophiles or people who ship the wrong voltron ship,’ actual pedophiles have free reign and actually whenever I see a post to report a real one it has very little notes in comparison to OMG REY/LO IS PROBLEMATIC and stuff, and the one time I got linked one I checked because I didn’t trust tumblr and let me tell you I wish I didn’t. anti shipping or being anti kink is just... 90% wanting to be puritans without knowing that you’re a puritan and you’re still policing women’s sexualities and abuse victims’s reactions and you’re not helping anyone.
and you sound like those soccer moms from the 90s who thought playing tekken made their kids violent or that marilyn manson’s music caused the columbine shootings which is a thing that has been disproved since two weeks after it happened. and these people have no idea that media influences you to the point you let it and that fiction is not reality. *shrug* and that was my offer to this contribution, I know I’ll get roasted at this point but I’m beyond giving two fucks at this point. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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hauntedfalcon · 4 years
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@metapphjores LOVE a size difference
HATE watching fandom after fandom after fandom make the darker skinned partner (on the rare occasions that a fandom that even HAS an interracial m/m pairing) taller and bulkier by default, every time
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kingofattolia · 4 years
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lol love to get “the Jedi were problematic and I’m not sorry they’re gone but same” comments on my Jedi Order mourning post
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brienneevenstar · 4 years
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just saw a jb shipper say support j0hn b0yega! and then claim that john is WRONG, he did get a good arc in rian johnson’s Film and it was jj abrams that ruined his character when john explicitly defended abrams in the interview and said rian johnson’s Film sidelined his character
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kyloren · 5 years
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“the more things change, the more they stay the same,” I say as I feel like I’m back in post-TFA era, and thoughtlessly, vindictively hating on Reylo and casually gaslighting the shippers is what makes the popular kids like you, so everyone and their pet iguana feel like it’s their personal duty to impart their ,,,,,,,,,,galaxy-brain’’’’’’’’’’’’’ takes on everything with a functional unwilling pair of eyeballs.
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I mean I ship reylo but treating other people like shit just because of a fucking ship is ridiculous (in response to the post about reylos treating john bodega and the others like shit)
BOYEGA i meant boyega fucking autocorrect
JOHN BODEGA
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personally i think reylo is gross, BUT i’m certainly not here to ship police anybody, you’re welcome to ship whatever you like. the problem is all the racist abuse john boyega has faced from fans, kylo and reylo fans in particular, and the awful way he was treated by disney. 
he is MORE than entitled to be salty and air some grievances, and the amount of white women who are playing victim in the wake of it is revolting. suck it up, buttercup. you are allowed to ship what you ship, and john is allowed to have his opinions too.
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vecna · 5 years
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Listen, I still need to make a big post about the things I loved about Jedi: Fallen Order. But while it wasn’t a PERFECT game, some of the complaints I keep seeing from gamer dudebros and Star Wars purists are wild.
"I keep dying! This is stupid!!" 
Lower the difficulty. I promise, no one will judge you. 
"The main character is too weak! He's a Jedi!!" 
Yeah, he's 17 years old, and hasn't had any training since he was a 12 year old padawan. He's SUPPOSED to feel weak and outmatched.
"I wanted (xyz) like The Force Unleashed!" "This isn't anything like The Force Unleashed!" "The Force Unleashed would have--" 
Dude, go play The Force Unleashed then, jesus christ.
I looked up a vid of the cosmetics in the game, and all the comments are 
“UGH WHY CAN'T WE HAVE JEDI ROBES OR SITH GEAR OR MANDO ARMOR LIKE THE FORCE UNLEASHED THIS IS DUMB.”
Because you're a 17 year old fugitive and this isn't TFU. Take your pink poncho and deal with it, my mans.
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screechthemighty · 4 years
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Me: I love Lore and finding out things about the characters from the writers!
Also me whenever someone asks a question about inter-character dynamic with implicit Shipping Lenses and the writers give an ambiguous, but encouraging answer:
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him-e · 5 years
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I can’t believe the freaking *MCU* engaged with the question of forgiveness in society more than SW did. I know most Bucky stans are nightmares about Kylo’s redemption, but Bucky as a character is like all the Stormtroopers who did participate in warfare, brainwashed and without agency, and the MCU engaged with the question of forgiveness and had him end up a hero. Meanwhile SW is like “If you’ve done Any Crime regardless of your agency, your life doesn’t matter and you deserve death!”
We truly are at this point. Let this sink in.
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kwistowee · 3 months
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Good grief, Star Wars really did peak in 1983. We shall not see its like again...
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carolxdanvers · 5 years
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R*ylos: Rey's only purpose is to redeem (and then fuck) Kyle! He might be dead but he used the force to impregnate her! Her entire story is nothing but character development for him! Romance!
John Boyega: lol he can kiss her but Finn's gonna be the one fuckin her ✌️
R*ylos: THIS UNPRECEDENTED SEXISM WILL! NOT! STAND!
See also:
Kyle: murders his father in cold blood, attempts to do the same to his mother, throws Rey into the air and knocks her out against a tree, almost kills Finn, is directly responsible for the deaths of all 3 of the main characters from the original trilogy, tortures people, murders an entire village of people
R*ylos:
Sheev: tosses him backward and down a hole
R*ylos: this was traumatizing nobody deserves this I felt sick I threw up in the theater this is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life
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it’s an... instinct.
so... i watched the rise of skywalker a little while earlier, and, uh. i have to be honest, you guys: it was very underwhelming. i understand it had to deal with impossible expectations and unexpected challenges, but even accounting for those issues, the movie was inescapably... flat. i feel none of the joy or buzz that i felt in abundance after tfa and tlj; just an empty sense of oh. that’s that, then. it didn’t have to be this way, i think? but after a year of watching disney blockbuster after dull disney blockbuster, i don’t know why i expected anything with even a smidgeon of creative ambition.
(actually i do know why: because the last jedi exists.)
i don’t really want to hang around shitting on this movie because i don’t at all enjoy complaining about something that i don’t also find fascinating/interesting in other ways, so i’m just going to say my piece and go.
SPOILERS AHEAD. like for almost every aspect of the film. i’m going to put spoiler tags on this and the rest of the post under a Read More but if by any chance you’re reading this in spite of all of that and don’t want to be spoiled, scroll past this post as fast as you can.
1. what the hell was even going on? this movie zipped from plot point to plot point without really letting either the characters or the audience absorb the impact of what was going on. i still haven’t wrapped my head around the fact that palpatine is back. or maybe it’s his pal, friendpatine? we may never know. it all went by so fast.
2. like. i see the dramatic and narrative potential in having rey be a descendant of palpatine--the very embodiment of evil--and be the saviour of the Light, while the dark side is served (to a point) by a descendant of the skywalkers, who are supposed to embody everything that is good in the galaxy. but the last jedi brought up concepts and ideas far more interesting than the dark-light binary and ideological struggles recycled from 40 years ago. the revelation of rey’s heritage undermines what was easily the strongest and most poignant scene of tlj: that rey’s parents were nobodies, and that the person who was going to save the jedi was just this girl abandoned on a desert planet, a survivor who thrived thanks to her ingenuity and hard-earned skills. it was of a piece with finn the former stormtrooper--a faceless target destined for an unceremonious death--turning out to be the one to inspire the resistance and the key to destroying the first order’s most terrifying weapon yet. 
but no... turns out anything that’s force-related on a monumental scale has to tie back to the skywalkers in some way, because, uh... blood legacy and destiny is the most important thing after all, oops?
2.5. the hard earned lessons from the previous movie were thrown away in an instant and replaced by anodyne aphorisms: she saw your spirit, be your true self, we can do anything together. this movie’s answers to its ideological and philosophical divides is akin to slapping a fortune cookie note over a black hole.
2.75. how thrilling it had been to think that the force doesn’t belong to just one family but to the galaxy entire! that heroes can arise from unexpected places! that even the most starwarsy hotshot hero can learn to be humble and that it’s that humility that finally shapes him into a leader! that for a hot minute this franchise was doing something new and exciting and setting the stage for future generations to explore this universe in different and interesting ways!
2.8. “my parents saved me by selling me into slavery” is an actual (paraphrased) line from the movie! are you listening to yourself, rey! what the actual fuck! are you sure there was no other way? are you sure??????
3. i will admit that tlj underserved finn’s arc, but at least his sidequest with rose in tlj had something interesting to say. tros always seems on the edge of realising finn’s arc, only to get distracted by the next laser gun battle or “banter” with poe. the indiscriminate murder of stormtroopers in this trilogy never sat well with me given the very first scene of tfa, but the lingering shots of the corpses of stormtroopers in a lot of a scenes in this movie gave me hope. when jenna and her group were revealed to have been defectors themselves, my heart soared. but finn’s never given a moment to let that sink in, or to really reflect on what that means and so his arc remains frustratingly unresolved.
3.5. oh, and rose tico was completely sidelined. she might as well have not been in the movie at all. it would’ve been less insulting.
4. the one big thing i was banking on was seeing rose finn and poe together at last--but alas. most of their banter was just them sniping at each other, and rey seemed utterly removed from the other two even when they were together--just wandering off vacantly when they took eyes off her for a second. their three way hug at the end was wonderful but couldn’t make up for all the disappointment that came before that.
5. some of the visuals were great, but the final fight was so bereft of imagination that they had to resort to a literal column of light extending into the sky--a placeholder climax for any movie that wants to end things in an Epic way but has run out of original ideas. even the “i am all of the sith”/”i am all of the jedi” felt horrifyingly like an avengers: endgame reference. kylo ren’s redemption was odd and inorganic. i just--
i. i’m sorry. actually i have a number of other things i found disappointing about the movie but i’m going to stop here. it had a lot to do on its plate without trying to retcon almost everything that the last jedi set up as well, and the result is... a bit of a mess.
still, movies like tfa, r1 and especially tlj hold a special place in my heart, and now that it’s time to say goodbye to these characters and this universe, i gotta say: it’s been fun. thanks for everything. i wish it had ended better.
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idk why Disney even bothers with movie writers these days, like the cookie cutter formula is pretty apparent already
villain with no plan
plot full of holes
three seconds of background gays
a bunch of POCs being ignored
major battle
a major plot twist no one expects bc it’s unrealistic and/or stupid
faux feminist moment
the hero sacrifices themselves for greater good 
the end
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kyloren · 5 years
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what’s your opinion on finnreys who wont let reylos ship finnrey too? i ship finnrey but all the finnrey blogs wont let me follow them bc im a reylo too :/
I’m not saying the fandom always viciously attacked and gate-kept ‘the undesirables’… I am, however, casually reminding of the time a sourceblog was holding a Finn Appreciation Week and the post with the rules of participation dictated that “No Reylos Are Allowed”, and also that Rose and Finnrose people/content was not allowed because, I quote, “Rose is anti-black”… really, I’m not saying anything at all.
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romanovanatalia · 5 years
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Rey really buried Anakin's and Leia's lightsabers in the planet in which both, father and daughter, were enslaved uh
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