If anyone has trouble conceptualizing why Mike's speech is not credible, imagine Vecna was holding a gun to El's head and said "Mike, I won't kill her if you say you love her" and he hasn't been able to say it to her before but does now. It could be true from the bottom of his heart and maybe he would have said it regardless, but THAT being the stakes of the scene it happens in makes it NOT. CREDIBLE. AT. ALL.
To him, it seemed like it was literally he tells her he loves her or DEATH. As the ONLY TWO OPTIONS. It could have been a very easy decision because he was already gonna tell her, but if that's the case, that's not how you frame that scene.
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sorry im just thinking about bcs but like. why not add a few smaller scenes of gus interacting with his own men? why does it seem like, in comparison, mike is almost immediately elevated to a higher status than those two in bcs purely because we actually get to see him having normal conversations with gus? like i understand they might not keep the plot moving as well because of the fact obviously if victor is currently doing something it’s because gus told him to etc. but for the most part all of the smaller interactions gus does have with those two ends up being in a somewhat high stress situation where it feels very tense between everyone. and it’s just like damn! is it always like that?? why do those two even care that much about their jobs if their boss is a bit of a dick? etc. i think even an additional scene or two with those guys (either alone or the both of them) talking with gus in a more normal situation could’ve both added a bit more depth into how gus treats his employees (we got a lot with how he treats lyle and co., but not a whole lot with the illegal side of things), how comfortable vic and tyrus feel around him in a calmer setting, and exactly why they both feel the need to be as loyal as they are to the guy.
and also on the other side of this i don't think it'd hurt to maybe elaborate on their pay just a bit..? i'm not saying to randomly put a number out into the atmosphere but i just mean some smaller things like. do they buy nicer things for themselves? what's their housing situation? what's their car situation? are the escalade / yukon their own vehicles or does gus just use those two for business situations? do they use them when they're doing their own stuff off the clock or do they have their own cars? etc. that can also help with understanding their motivations a bit. don't get me wrong i don't think they should be visibly rich or something because that's not what gus would want but just smaller things! cause it's easy to write their loyalty off as Well they probably get paid super well, which i'm sure is true, but if they don't show a single hint of that then what's the point. even something as simple as giving tyrus a nice watch, or maybe victor having a nicer looking gun, etc. something small like that. because as it stands right now the average 41 year old viewer who watched the show once only knows and will only ever know victor and tyrus as those two guys in the background who do random stuff for gus with no clear motivation. just the personification of "On it boss (salute emoji)". and to be honest this is true for a whole lot of fans who do watch the show multiple times and enjoy thinking about it more in depth, because on screen we barely have anything about the two.
and to be clear i'm not trying to say we should have an episode just for them or something like no i understand they're side characters. i understand we don't need all that. and i understand this is also primarily Jimmy's show. but it's not like these two are on the same level as like, arlo or paige and kevin etc. these guys have been around since brba. victor was literally introduced in the same episode gus was. and they are a huge part of gus's story, especially in brba. s4 wouldn't have been what it was without victor and tyrus. and in bcs, ignacio's situation wouldn't have been the same if it weren't for victor and tyrus as well. and i just personally believe that if their goal with gus in bcs was to go back and elaborate on how everything came to be and show what he was like a few years younger, they could've dragged victor and tyrus into that. and i think his character would've benefited from taking that extra step with those two.
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i'm going to cry, florence welch is playing a show in london in september for the BBC prom, an orchestral arrangement of the entirety of Lungs and i sent it to my mom and said i wish i could go and SHE SAID WE WILL GO TOGETHER SHSDLIFHSILDHFLSIDHF
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Also she'll get mad at me whenever I go to help her but don't actually know what to do or how to do it the way she wants/needs me to so she'll tell me Well why the hell did you even come here then????? like sorry I don't know... to try and help you out?? which is what you always say no one does????
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Imagine being like one of miquella's close assistants during haligtree era and somehow the conversation ends up converging towards the role of empyreanhood and ascension and he's like "ah... godhood... indeed.... alas to become a lord i shall find a consort... if i could i would have made malenia consort, for we have already been one several times, and perhaps in birth too, but alas her fellow empyrean natures doesn't permit it" and you're standing there being like "did this guy just admit he fucks his sister"
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