#the amount of swifties defending her….

[septembersghost]

I sent this to another blog but she didn't answer it - I saw someone say Vegas is for "has-beens" and only associated with Elvis' "decline," Taylor would never taint her legacy in that way blah blah but Elvis did spectacularly well in Vegas, it wasn't performing there that was embarrassing or whatever, it's that he was locked there contractually with no way out bc of predatory management. wasn't the Vegas circuit a big deal, like the Rat Pack did well there too, or am I wrong?

yeah, whoever said that was missing some information/perspective. that's a reductive and sort of 21st century stereotyped view of what actually went on regarding elvis' time in vegas, and also missing a larger point regarding the big, flashy draw to be had there at that point. it wasn't "has-beens" putting on shows, it was legends of the time, and many of them did very well, watched that reinvigorate careers, made quite a bit of money, etc. the rat pack is another great example, they legitimately made the town into a glitzy destination. ("Frank wouldn’t go out after dark without a sport jacket on, let alone perform out of a tuxedo,” former Nevada Lieutenant Governor Lorraine Hunt-Bono said to Smithsonian magazine in 2013. “He was the spark that changed Vegas from a dusty Western town into something glamorous.”" x)

the negative side of it for elvis had far more complicated context, from parker's dealings to his own health. admittedly i only know basics of this and there are for sure more in-depth accounts, but in a universe where he wasn't in essence being caged there, he likely would've pursued a european/world tour like he wanted to, among other things, the circumstances would've just...been different. it certainly did not begin as anything close to a decline though, and even when he began to really struggle, his name on the marquee was still a huge draw. ("Visibly nervous as his four-week engagement at the International Hotel kicked off on July 31, 1969, Elvis quickly found his groove as he launched into classics like "Blue Suede Shoes" and "All Shook Up." Unlike the muted response that welcomed his debut in Vegas 13 years earlier, he had the star-studded audience eating out of his hand this time. He punctuated his high-energy, 75-minute performance with karate kicks and off-the-cuff stage patter.

Critics were swept up in the frenzy as well: "Elvis got a constant, roaring approval from his fans who all but threw themselves into the aisles and out of the balcony as the Pelvis sang his many rock 'n' roll hits while fiercely, almost savagely turning himself outside in," read one review from the Las Vegas Sun.

Even before the end of Elvis's stay, which drew a record 101,500 patrons over the four weeks, his manager, Colonel Tom Parker, and the International Hotel president negotiated a handshake deal to have the singer return for twice-per-year engagements over the next five years.

Elvis dutifully revisited the hotel–rebranded as the Las Vegas Hilton–for his two-shows-per-night residency into the mid-1970s, enjoying his home away from home in the 5,000-square-foot "Elvis Suite" on the 30th floor.

The performance magic dimmed as the novelty of the experience wore off for the star, who was also dealing with diminishing health and a deteriorating marriage. Still, die-hard fans continued flocking to the city to see their hero, with every one of his estimated 636 performances at the venue reported to be a sellout." x)

and this falls under that topic i've mentioned, when someone's fame is so enormous it eclipses their personhood, and becomes a kind of removed, shallow thing. the association with impersonators and riffs on stage presence or musicianship or acting that trail icons like elvis/the rat pack/marilyn/etc don't do full justice to who they truly were and why they became iconic, it's facsimile. that's not inherently bad, but it's not quite whole either.

there's additionally this snideness from a certain subsection of various fans who look down on "legacy artists" and it's buying into the ageism and other issues in the industry. taylor not being the type of artist likely to do a vegas residency has nothing to do with her being somehow above it all, it's just not her scene! i have to laugh if people really think artists like celine dion, katy perry, lady gaga, gwen stefani, jennifer lopez, cher, elton john, britney, mariah, beyonce, adele...all did their vegas residencies because they're "has beens" rather than, you know, wildly successful performers who chose to put on big shows that didn't require touring and were massively lucrative.

[nicollekidman]

Why do you think ts became so self mythologizing when other artists like mitski, Phoebe etc have resisted it? I'm just curious, if you don't feel comfortable answering that's okay! I like your music criticism and have followed you since your og swiftie days <3

this feels like apples and oranges, mitski is an indie artist and has no aspirations to stardom, her music is extremely personal and grounded in her own lived experience, every album release is in direct tension with the fact that she knows people will listen and it's Difficult... phoebe is too internal and self-focused to position herself at the distance it requires to self mythologize (ironically)...

but really it's fame. there's no other artist alive, arguably, who has taylor's level of fame and amount of public scrutiny, and her own cultivation of those machines to cement herself financially and artistically within pop culture has been the driving force of the last several years. and like the thing about taylor's music is that you cannot actually be vulnerable and sincere artistically when you are a billionaire with a cultural monopoly, and you can't both write about the vultures and creeps being weird about you and then also turn around and write songs that basically give geotags and timestamps meant to align with twitter threads about your relationships. she's caught in what i imagine is incredibly painful tension between Real Person and Product, but i'm losing sympathy for her because at every step she makes it worse and encourages these readings.

so now we're left with a songwriter who cannot remember what it felt like when she was Real but who has built an entire worldwide tour and recording project dedicated to casting herself in amber so she can never die, eulogizing herself before she's dead because this way she has control over each piece of herself while ensuring her fans are whipped up in a frenzy to defend her from imagined attacks that have already been stamped out.... and once you've intellectualized and monetized what used to be the raw beating heart of yourself.... literally what else is left but an unmoving projection of what you think other people love about you. it's so bleak.

[cosettepontmercys]

I truly can’t pinpoint when/what exactly changed about Taylor’s fans/fandom but the last few years (especially the midnights release) has really soured things for me and it’s honestly quite disappointing as someone who genuinely enjoys her music and thinks she’s a great artists. how did we get to the point of not even being able to voice an opinion about taylor without being crucified online. or if heaven forbid you dislike a song/album or enjoy the work of one of her exes (john mayer, the 1975, calvin harris, etc)

i’ve always been very fascinated/intrigued by the relationship between celebrities and their fans. and i think it’s really interesting to look back and think about how taylor built her fanbase by making herself as palatable/relatable/approachable as possible. like secret sessions, t party/loft 89/rep room, swiftmas, lover diaries, etc — all of which allow for fan interaction — but also relies on people getting noticed which then in turn encourages people to be as vocal? extra? whatever it is. which then feeds into the "who is a bigger / better fan" competition. i'm speaking from personal experience here, as someone who has liked her since debut — but i think a lot of this is also rooted in how much of the world hated taylor swift prior to ... i want to say folklore, really — like it was deeply uncool to like taylor swift, to be a swiftie, etc. and because a lot of that early criticism was rooted so much in misogyny, i think fans felt the need to (over the years) defend her — and i was one of those! i still am, when i feel like people are criticizing her unfairly. but i think that lends into the "taylor swift has never done anything wrong, and she's perfect and if you disagree then you're against us and you're a fake fan" mentality.

and then i think there's an element of ... not necessarily a superiority complex, but a something among fans who have met taylor. it's a genius marketing move, intentions aside. taylor's music is very personal — and taylor's marketing, and persona is very personal, in a way that other artists prior to taylor weren't, i think. relatability sells. you can see it in the way that people talk about her, and her music. which is very different from the way people talk about other artists — and obviously there isn't anyone else out there with the amount of fame/popularity as her, but you don't see the same amount of fanfiction-writing personal-life-speculating-projection onto other artists' lyrics as you do with taylor. and i think that when someone is that vulnerable with their thoughts, it makes it easy for people to think that they know them personally.

and i think that — as much as i love taylor — it's important to talk about her white woman feminism mentality. and i think that also seeps into how her fanbase interacts with her. the ginny & georgia "joke" is what comes to mind the quickest, but there are countless instances of taylor's white woman feminism — and her benefiting from it. and obviously it was in her right to call out a misogynistic comment, especially one directed at her, but not saying anything when the actress got so much hate for a line she didn't write ... made me feel a bit 🥴. it's interesting to see who taylor will choose to align herself with, i guess is all i'm saying.

i've really taken a step back from taylor — not just because the fandom is exhausting ( the amount of things i've seen about her, joe, travis, etc. is ... something! it's all projection! we do not know anything about these people other than what they choose to show us! ) but also because of her saying that she wanted to be on the right side of history and then over and over again choosing to be increasingly passive and silent. she will call herself an ally but won’t even talk about queer rights; she won’t talk about the literal genocide that’s going on. gun control, abortion rights, anything at all. it's just "go vote" but even that is incredibly passive. but she will take time to remind us to buy new variants, and to stream her music, and that her ex sucks.

i think there was a huge shift that started with folklore/evermore, just given that there weren't a lot of albums being put out during that time, the overwhelming public reception to it — a lot of people who previously didn't care for (or disliked) taylor started to like her, to give her a second chance, etc. then we get into the rerecordings era/midnights/etc., which started off with fearless and nostalgia and then became "how quickly can i put out the next thing". and bailey @placeinthisworld posted this earlier, which i fully agree with. it's about the next award, the next milestone. it's just all quantity. it's overexposure.

and then we have the joe alwyn breakup and the public response to that was also ... interesting. like i saw people crying over it, or saying that love is a lie, removing things from their playlists, acting like they were the ones who had been broken up with. which is just ... odd, given that we aren't the ones in the relationship. and now there are all these comments about being a "joe defender". and then with taylor dating travis, it feels almost like some weird american pipe dream unfulfilled fantasy for so many people — the singer and the american football player. and obviously, i want her to be happy! i don't care who she dates! but i do think the public reception about her and travis has been ... incredibly odd, and i think that the way people talk about her and travis is just ... very ... off-putting and is very rooted in some weird ... stuff. "she finally gets to be small :(((((" is such a weird thing to say. it feels like there's even more projection and self-insert-y stuff with her dating travis, which is a level i did not think was possible from her fans (and more so, the general public).

i have not felt this ... detached and impassive about a taylor release, ever, and it just makes me incredibly sad because i love her music, and am excited about the work, just not excited about the public reception, the public autopsy of her and joe's relationship, or the noise, and i know that internet spaces (and spaces in general) are what we curate, but it's also difficult when she is everywhere.

[joesalw]

Ok I'm sorry but this is gonna be a long rant.

I am an ex swiftie (also a minor) and I joined the fandom back in 2022 after midnights released. Before that I had heard a few songs but I barely knew anything about Taylor before 2020 and I did not know about the Kimye stuff or anything.

When the bejeweled music video was released I did not realize the easter eggs so thus I thought that I need to become parasocial and I NEED to know everything that taylor has done every minute of the day (referencing Do you really wanna know where I was April 29?)

I went deeper into the hole. I started getting obsessed with Taylor. I clicked on every video , post and podcast mentioning her. I genuinely became a parasocial fan. I only heard her songs and barely cared about other artists. I hated on her exes (Jake Gyllenhaal and John Mayer especially) because I believed that they had hurt Taylor to no extent. I still don't like them/am neutral but I don't hate them anymore. In march I joined tumblr because I heard Taylor was on here and I have no other social media to support her from so I came here to give her my support.

In April , the breakup happened. I was genuinely devastated. Joe was and is an amazing person. I was shocked to see her move on so quickly and date m*tty he*ly . I was even as a child shocked as to how someone can move on so fast. But also move on to someone so problematic after calling herself an activist? Idk what was wrong with her. But IG as long as she is happy.

She broke up with him. We all rejoiced. Speak now TV was also announced! Yay!

I remember so well on 7th July I was in school and I was so fucking excited about it coming so soon I couldn't sit still. I was counting down minutes until it's release even tho I did not have any devices to listen to it on. My friends were so happy to see me happy and excited af.

I went home and heard speak now tv. Amazing experience for me at that time.

I became the person who said shit like : I hate everyone but Taylor and Taylor is a gift to this Earth and etc etc.

But the amount of joe hate and joeover and joebless jokes annoyed me. Why were we hating a person who was in her life at her worst moments? Taylor would never condone or allow this.

But boy was I wrong.

Most of the hate against joe was my #Strike 1 for leaving the fandom.

Then came along Traylor. I was like oh ok as long as she is happy :))

Then she started associating with the nfl people. Br*ttany M*homes and Abuser bitch.

When I heard of this I was like wtf Taylor???

Weren't you the one who was going off about being on the right side of the history and believing victims?

I was like it's fine maybe she doesn't know or maybe she will stop once she knows.

She didn't

Then she won person of the year. I was already very unhappy with Taylor at that time. But I still was like Yay! Congrats! But maybe you shouldn't be the one to win it?

Then the doxxing by a swiftie happened. It was #strike 3

I left the fandom. I still had hope she would change.

Now after seeing her jets emissions (I'm a huge Environmentalist and a feminist so this shit bothered the living helm out of me) and her continuously hanging out with brittany piece of shit and all the joe hate going on, I am beginning to despise her.

I had initally blocked hate pages like yours but Now I open your posts everyday and check them because I relate to them sm.

I went from a person defending every action of Taylor's, being the only one in my entire theatre who knew the lyrics to all the songs of the eras tour movie , having Taylor as my top artist of the year with more than 60 percent of the songs being hers to despising her so much for being fake and stuck up.

I remember after I left the fandom and not many people knew about it , A classmate said something against Taylor and her songs directly to me daring me to oppose it and I genuinely wanted to cry because I thought that I would now always be associated with this fandom.

The ex swiftie in me genuinely wants 2016 to happen again so Taylor will be removed from the pedestal she is put on by so many. She needs to be saved from herself and her parasocial fans.

And I used to say I would love Taylor forever but I suppose forever really is the sweetest con.

TLDR :- I USED TO BE A PARASOCIAL SWIFTIE WHO USED TO LIVE AND BREATHE TAYLOR BUT NOW I'M SLOWLY STARTING TO DESPISE HER.

Sorry this was so long I had to get it off my chest.

Thanks for reading it!

ex swifties are my favourite people in this planet rn

[jalwyn21]

So there are multiple Swiftie accounts on Tiktok and Instagram that I found constantly insinuating how Joe might have cheated on Taylor based on the songs she wrote and based on Joe's former co-star instagram post (the one where he rode a green bike I think). My question is, do these people really can't process the possibility that their "queen" might be cheating too? And also according to them, co-workers posting a picture of another co-worker must be because they are romantically involved. What about the tons of men that Taylor has posted on her instagram before? Swifties are really trying so hard to do a smear campaign on Joe Alwyn with whatever bits of brain they have left in their head. I've noticed too that the popular Swiftie accounts with a lot of followers tend to post things slandering her past relationships (mostly the one with Joe) and overhyping her current relationship with TK. Which is also hilarious because I can remember very well that some of them are the ones who used to hype her relationship with Joe. Talk about hypocrites.

Also what's actually ironic (and quite amusing I must say) is now there are quite the amount of people (and that includes some Swifties too) that came to defend Joe in the comment section haha. And we can see that the OP didn't reply to any comments defending Joe because they don't want to agree with anything that is not borderline worshipper their "queen" 😂

The only one with a consistent history of cheating, or at least overlapping relationships is TS. She even brags about in her songs 🙄Can't believe this needs saying but coworkers posting a picture of another coworker is not cheating.. spending time with coworkers is not cheating..

Also those scooter pics were clearly taken months apart. Not only is Joe's scooter a darker colour but you can still see Christmas lights in her pic which makes sense for a December or January pic. There are no Christmas lights in Joe's pic, just the normal traffic lights, which makes sense for a pic taken in March. 🙄

[professionalgeekgirly]

Joe Alwyn, get behind me, I CAN fight

Listen, I truly don't know why I have such a strong urge to defend some white man. But I'm slightly drunk and some of the discourse concerning this poor guy I see on the internet makes me see fucking red.

The amount of digs at Joe I see daily on social media is seriously baffling to me. The same three unfunny jokes about him being poor, jobless, hiding her in the basement and Taylor "finally dating a successful man".

This actually offers some interesting insight into an American mind, I think. Because in what world is Joe Alwyn some kind of pathetic loser they make him up to be? He's a very talented actor. He has degrees from Bristol and CSSD. He was in several Oscar-nominated films, he worked with Ang Lee, Yorgos Lanthimos, Claire Denis. Watch any interview with him - he's a handsome, soft-spoken, well-read, intelligent guy.

Just because he hasn't won any Super Bowls, doesn't mean Taylor had spent six years with a jobless loser-parasite taking advantage of her money and fame.

Joe will probably never have the level of fame and commercial success Travis has. I don't see any box office smash hits in his future, he's not getting into MCU any time soon. This man will keep hopping around Sundance and Cannes, narrating audiobooks, doing A24 movies, Pinter plays and BBC limited series until he's old and gray.

It's completely fine to have a very private relationship, it's also okay to shout about your love from the rooftops. I find both beautifully romantic in completely different ways. And it's normal to want and need different things at different times in your life. This is clearly what happened to Taylor.

I have a strong suspicion that the reason most swifties love Taylor with Travis so much is because he gives them easier access to her. We all have our preferences, you all want a lovable extroverted himbo, a quiet British actor who knows a lot of Shakespeare is much more up my alley.

And remember - there will be happiness after you but there was happiness BECAUSE of you, both of these things can be true...

[mohabbaat]

i think it has more to do with the swifties. i could be wrong but have you SEEN swifties? most of them literally do not deserve the right to free speech. (ik what i said and i stand by this) they're racist, ignorant and misogynistic (yes.) and they don't even respect HER privacy, let alone anyone who's associated with her. won't elaborate, one could literally write an essay about it lol. and coming to taylor, yes the album releases are overwhelming and the songs are just okay, with a few bangers maybe, and whenever someone points it out there's always a swiftie screaming "you just can't see a woman succeed" like, no?? criticizing taylor does not amount to misogyny or hate. and come on, seeing one person in the limelight whilst your fav artists who might just be equally deserving (or more, even) rot on the sidelines must feel really bad. taylor giving the excuse that her plane was used by other celebs and that she pays for carbon offsetting was so lame i had second hand embarrassment. i still love her music but it doesn't mean i would blindly defend her and justify everything, it's just really disgusting.

i have heard like 3 of her new songs so won't be judging the music but some her fans are just... unbearable. like she isn't a god and people have the right to criticize her. like i said before, as a celebrity she expects to be called out as much as she expects people to love her. it's a part of being famous.

also the funniest thing about some of her fans is that for so long they have been all "taylor is more than her exes!!!" and now they themselves keep equating her music and her worth to the guy she is dating. every song must be related to her ex. every lyric must be about an event that they are very well aware of. like maybe realise that you don't know everything that happened and there's a chance that you are completely misreading the room? why are you so obsessed with her private life? get a job? touch some grass? idk.

[chrkrose]

A lot of Brazilian fans waking up to who Taylor Swift actually is and honestly? Finally.

LATAM fans should boycott her tour. They already paid for such an expensive ticket. That was enough. They don't need to spend more on her by going there. She's too much. The woman is clearly insane. Ana's family should sue her and her team for negligence to prepare for the heatwave. She's too busy working on her PR relationship they failed to prepare for the heatwave. The reason why they won't mention Ana is because they don't want to be sued. I think, Ana's family will get good money if this is how her team is avoiding them. Only proves she and her team are liable for the mistake.

She’s definitely choosing to keep quiet to distance herself from what happened as much as possible. She doesn’t want The Eras Tour to be attached to the death of a fan. Ana became an inconvenience. To her, and to international swifties who are angry that Brazilians aren’t kissing her ass and are holding her accountable for the horrendous treatment she displayed towards LATAM fans. The amount of xenophobic and racist tweets I’ve read in the past 24 hours coming from them is insane.

Yesterday in Rio fans were planning to chant Ana’s name after champagne problems, during the space she leaves between it and Tolerate it for fans to cheer over her. Taylor usually waits at least a minute or two before moving forward to the next song, sometimes she stayed even almost full ten minutes listening to the crowd screaming her name before moving on. Guess what, yesterday, within 20 seconds from the end of Champagne Problems, she stood up and started introducing the next song. Just so fans couldn’t have the opportunity to chant Ana’s name. Later some swifities revealed they got in contact with her dancers and warned them about what was going to happen. Because they wanted to “protect her” from this “awful “fan” project”. Exactly, the death of a girl and fans wishing for this girl’s idol to acknowledge her somehow became an “awful “fan” project”. I uploaded the video of the moment on my Twitter because a friend of mine was at the concert, and swifties filled my mentions defending her, calling me names and are even going to other tweets not related to her demanding that I delete the video.

Taylor Swift is a horrible horrible person.

[karlie-what-you-want]

The amount of Swifties defending Joe’s alleged insecurity over Taylor’s fame is too damn high. They say it’s rude to speculate and believe gossip and rumors and to just leave the man alone. I would, of course, agree with this.

But we see the hypocrisy there, right? We know the rumors they did choose to believe, and the woman they still to this day will not leave alone…right?

Why in this world are we so quick to defend an [allegedly] straight white man who couldn’t handle his girlfriend’s success, and why are we so quick to condemn a self-made business woman like Karlie who has been nothing but supportive and respectful to Taylor all along? Why is that the priority? I know I’m not the first to point this out, but I just can’t wrap my head around feeling so moved to come out in his defense almost in favor of the patriarchy—on the Taylor Swift subreddit no less.

“Don’t use her as a pawn against the patriarchy” as if Taylor would not LOVE that (and as if she hasn’t orchestrated these “rumors” about Joe being insecure about her success). Taylor didn’t write FUCK THE PATRIARCHY into ATW10 for you all to defend Joe Oatmilk Alwyn.

[sophsicle]

i honestly don’t think it’s her i think it’s just the fans. like i vibe with her music and im not gonna go to the ends of the earth to defend her when she doesn’t deserve that but i also think she gets a lot of unfair criticism bc of the way the swiftie portray her and talk abt her and her music. like she’s not a god and that’s okay! i also think she just gets too much expose and like she can’t rly help that but again, it doesn’t help the public perception of her. (not the say she hasn’t done a lot of questionable shit and doesn’t deserve some of the criticism but i think sometimes ppl are unfair)

yeah i mean.

listen.

taylor swift gets more praise than she deserves, she gets more hate than she probably deserves.

i will say i do think she does actively try to present herself as a sad underdog, a quirky cat lady, a walking "just a girl" meme, BUT that is simply my opinion, not a scientific fact

she is just a pop star who is currently very popular and therefore everything in regard to her is overblown

which is why i try to temper the amount i bitch about her online because i truly do despise getting caught up in taylor swift discourse it is a waste of everyones time

[allamericansbitch]

Imagine if Taylor directed the swifties's energy to care about stuff and fight battles towards actual useful important things, instead of harassing people, start watching football and just overall not her life.

Imagine if she atleast spoke about a topic that genuinely mattered to her or created like a foundation. Her mom battled cancer, she could start a research fund or even for a lighter subject something related to cats. A cat rescue for example, imagine people just going there because Taylor endorses it.

I mean I'm not saying she doesn't do stuff privately and I totally agree that when you want to do good, you don't need to flaunt it you just do it and no one needs to know. But with her influence, it's a shame she only uses her fandom to give her money and defend her battles and not for something bigger than her you know what I mean

I think we just need to keep our blindfolds off when it comes to celebrities. Most of them are not in fact "normal people" like us "peasants" and will always put their own agenda first before anything else.

We live at a time when it's either you stay far away from a celebrity apart from consuming their art or you're bound to end up disappointed

i think people genuinely think Taylor is your average person and that all the things you listed are so outrageous for her to do and so far out of her reach but again... she's not your average person. she's a billionaire, none of this is an extreme ask and she's sitting on insane amounts of money we cannot even begin to fathom and she's doing nothing with it, and hoarding that wealth is what got her to being a billionaire in the first place

[fandomgremlinlover]

Im posting this as a rant, so. Don’t like. DONT READ‼️‼️

anyways, I’ve been seeing a bunch of Taylor Swift stuff on my TikTok FYP lately, and it’s either people bashing or supporting her. Personally, I don’t really care for Taylor. She doesn’t affect me or my life and I could care more or less about her music.

But.

In the process of this, I’ve seen a lot of swifties (that how you spell it??) defending her by saying that the people who dislike her and openly hate her are misogynistic and anti-feminist, and have no real good reason to hate her. Which, first of all, is an absolute dog shit of a statement and a VERY arrogant take on this entire ordeal to begin with!?

I’ve only got a couple things to say about Taylor Swift, and none of them are particularly nice. So if you don’t want to read ahead, scroll. Because I’ve got a LOT to say in regards as to why I dislike Taylor.

( Statement 1)

“Taylor Swift is an ethical billionaire guys, she’s not a bad person!!”

Every time I read this comment, or hear it, from anyone. (including swifties) I lose a brain cell and lose faith in humanity. Firstly, an “ethical billionaire” does not exist. Ethical, by definition, has three different meanings. But the definition that I assume most people refer to is “avoiding activities or organizations that do harm to people or the environment.” And billionaires, do not give a shit about that.

I want you to process the word billionaire. A word referring to a person who makes BILLIONS every single damn year and make millions every single minute. 24 hrs a day. They make SO much money, that if they were to ever give a FRACTION of that amount to the public, specifically the homeless, our homeless problem in the US could be fixed. And when I say fixed, I mean there would never be any more homeless people in the United States of America. I am aware it wouldn’t be fixed immediately, don’t put words in my mouth, but with time, probably very short if we put more effort into the problem, there would be no homelessness epidemic within a couple years. The fact that Taylor Swift is probably the RICHEST woman/singer/songwriter of the 21st century and has more influence than any political candidate or party will every have in their life adds to the ridiculousness of this statement and baffles me every time I remember it. To prove my point, there are about 2700 billionaires in total as of 2024. 759 of those billionaires are from the USA. One of which, is Taylor Swift herself.

If you are a person who goes by the slogan “Eat the rich” and you still believe that Taylor Swift is an exception to this quote. You need to get your head out of the clouds and come back to reality. Because she’s in no way an exception to this, just like Biden isn’t. Just like Trump isn’t. And just like any other fucking politician that exists isn’t an exception!!

Also, do you know how much fucking co2 this woman uses every year for her private jet flights??? If you don’t know, here’s a graph:

She produces my co2 admissions than the average American does in a YEAR. Specifically for Airplane travel. Considering the number, that’s fucking ridiculous. She could just as easily use a public Airliner and get a first class ticket if she wanted to avoid fans and have privacy. If we were to produce as much of carbon dioxide this woman makes on average every fucking year, im pretty sure this fucking planet would be dead. Or at least worse off than it already is.

Remember how I gave out the definition of ethical??😊 and how it refers to a person who avoids companies or products that harm the environment or its people??😁 Yeah… pretty sure she does the EXACT FUCKING OPPOSITE!! 🙃💀

(Statement 2✌️)

“She represents feminism and for women’s rights!!🥺🥺”

…no she doesn’t. She represents only one type of feminism, WHITE feminism. Feminism, by definition, means “the advocacy of women’s rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.” Which includes ALL ethnic minority women, including, white women. Feminism includes the advocacy of ALL women, no matter the race, class, culture, or age. It’s for all. White feminism on the other hand, is not. This expression of feminism focuses on white women and purposely fails to address the existence of minority women and other women lacking privileges. Taylor Swift is KNOWN, quite literally, to use this to her advantage! Every single time an interviewer asks her what she thinks of her haters or something related to this, she brings up feminism and cry’s wolf about the hard time she’s had in the industry as a woman.

Don’t take this the wrong way though, I’m not saying that she HASNT experienced hardships within the industry!! But she clearly is using those experiences to gain sympathy and support. She’s been in the music industry since she was 14 YEARS OLD. She knows what she’s doing. And she clearly knows HOW to do it.

She is 34 years old, she’s a grown ass woman. She has ACCESS to social media and global and economic issues. She doesn’t speak on them though. She could. And she did. She has more influence than the damn president for gods sake. Remember when she voiced her political position in the presidential election with Trump and Hillary?? No? Well let me refresh your memory. When she voiced herself as a Democrat and quite literally insulted Trump for being misogynistic, he RESPONDED and said “he liked Taylor Swift 25% less now”

….HUH!?! SHE got the damn PRESIDENT of the USA (at the time) to fucking respond to HER. Do you realize how unlikely that is for ANY other celebrity if they were to do that!?!

VERY unlikely.

The only reason he even responded was because HER statement affected his campaign and votes.

To emphasize on how much influence she has, if you still don’t believe me, when she started dating that star football player. And then her fan base found out, almost every single football game she has attended, sold out. Jerseys?? Sold out. Popularity?? Skyrocketed. Suddenly every swiftie in sight is a professional football coach and is a fan of her boyfriend’s football team. 🤯🤯

If you realize how INSANE that is, most of her fans, who probably had never even CHEERED for a football team, is now cheering for his.

Also, remember the Barbie joke told by Jo Koy?? Yeah. And Taylor Swifts reaction to his joke?? Almost every editor on TikTok and every user on every social media is screaming and posting about it. Like— not even an 24 HOURS. And there’s already edits about the golden globes. And everyone’s talking about “feminism” and the “importance of women’s rights!”

…..

But no one’s talking about the Palestinian women?? No ones talking about the women in Congo?? No ones talking about how Palestinian women don’t have access to menstrual products?? Or how they don’t have access to morphine or anesthesia to give birth?? Or how Congolese women are raped EVERY hour??? How so many of these women in so many of these places are being abused and treated??? No??? Instead we focus on the reaction of a women to a poorly made joke by a stupid man. I’m not saying he had the right to do that, I’m only saying that instead of focusing on the reaction of a women who has more influence than the US government themselves to a poorly made joke about her relationship, we should focus on REAL LIFE ISSUES!! She’s a grown ass woman who can stand up for herself. She does not need ANY help whatsoever.

He’s gotten held accountable, and I’m satisfied with that, but now that it’s over, your attention should be to the millions of women in the countries that are struggling, including ours!! Advocate for that. Don’t advocate for a woman who makes more money than 15 millionaires combined and doesn’t use her influence to empower other women, specifically women in minorities.

I’ll say it louder for the people in the back, SHES NOT A GOOD PERSON‼️‼️

(Statement 3️⃣)

“Her music is revolutionary!! Her songs are so beautiful and have so much meaning!!🥹🫶”

This is the only statement where I’ll consider its validity. You see, back when I was younger, I was a Taylor swift fan, but not big enough to be considered a swiftie. Her music was impossible to avoid and I, admittedly, still enjoy some of her songs. And some of her new songs are somewhat good. But… some of her songs… are just… not. 😬

The first part of this statement though, I kinda agree with. Due to her music and little influence she had on me as a kid, I started going down the rabbit hole of how feminism and women’s rights came into play with her music. O diverged from there and began getting into women’s rights in minority communities, and how they have less privilege than other groups of women. And it continued from there. At that point, I had learned about Taylor Swifts wrong way of advocating for women. I learned that you needed to do much more than say that the reason that so many people dislike Taylor Swift is because they are anti feminist and are misogynistic.

As I said before, she pulls the focus on her and in the process covers up other women’s accomplishments. Did you know that the first ever Native American woman was NOMINATED for best Actress??? No?? Well, here she is:

Lily Gladstone, a Native American woman nominated for best Actress in 2024. You wanna know what she did as soon as she got her award?? She spoke in her native language, Blackfeet, and said that she won’t be the last Native American to win an award. Why aren’t as many people talking about her?? She was in the same room as Taylor Swift?? And all the people who made those edits with the Barbie soundtrack, wheres the edits of her??

This woman has made HISTORY. And yet no one is talking about it.

Getting back on the topic of Taylor’s songs, while some are good and well-done. They aren’t really… anything special???? Most of the songs shes written are mostly about her past relationships.

(Which, by the way, I’ll talk about a little more in a bit)

And other topics, like revenge and love. And when you listen to her songs, they’re, admittedly, meh. Now, I’m guilty to listening to some of her songs from a long time ago. I mean— I literally owned the reputation album! I loved the songs cause I thought they were cool, but eventually, they became annoying. There are a couple of her most recent songs that I mostly enjoy, I’m pretty sure the one that goes like: “I see right through me”?? Idk but the only reason Ik it is bc it’s remixed with “always an angel, never a god” 🫠

Otherwise, I haven’t listened to much of her new music.

Now, on the topic of her dating history….Yeah. You can’t even defend her here swifties…

I’m gonna list some of the people that I remember cause I don’t know any of the others🤷:

Matt Healy (…..really)

Harry styles

Jake Gyllenhaal

I….thats it…that’s all I remember….😶

Now, in total, she’s dated about 12 publicly known exes. And has dated about 15-20 men. And I know who 3-5 of them are… Apparently she’s dated Tom Hiddleston and Zac Efron as well, but the rest I’m not sure I know. From what I can gather, from a specific Reddit post, Ty to this person btw, did math on how many songs she’s written about heartbreak and/or her exes below: 👇

This is the link to the post: Taylor Swift relationship math

And it is insane. I’ve NEVER seen that many heartbreak songs written by ONE PERSON🤯 admittedly, that’s impressive, but that is also RIDICULOUS. I get that music is an escape for most and anyone has the right to put their feelings into a song. But this…. This is astounding. I’m not gonna bash on how many songs she had written of her exes, I just wanted to show you the math.

The real issue I have with her dating history is not that she has written almost every single one of her songs about them, but mostly to the face that some of them are REALLY controversial. Specifically, Matt Healy. Who is a known racist and neo-nazi. And was known to be these things BEFORE they started dating. And was circulating around the media for a while. To the swifties who defend her bc she “broke up with him” after this, THAT DOESNT MEAN JACK SHIT SHE STILL DATED HIM WHEN ALL THAT SHIT CAME OUT.

There’s a lot more I want to say, but I’m tired and have been meaning to say stuff about Palestine other issues beside that. I saw this as an opportunity and I took it. Thank you for reading and Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[nicollekidman]

I just wanna say as someone who enjoys tswift in the ?? normal amount? not a swiftie way? it's so refreshing to finally follow a fan who doesn't kiss her ass all the time and has unique opinions on her work.

i have deeply loved her since 2006 and will continue to until my bones are ground to dust but also i am aware she is a musician and millionaire, and i am a consumer. i’d like to think i’m as normal about her as someone with a tattoo of her could be, and it should not be a position in need of defending to sometimes not enjoy music a musician makes or actions a famous person engages in. we’re normal here. we’re adults djdjjdjdjdj

[jewishbarbies]

Whenever you get into an argument with a swiftie, they always, ALWAYS, bring up her achievements. Some stupid shit like “She’s won x amount of awards so keep talking.”, “She has however many awards, how many do you have?”, “She’s more successful than you will ever be.” Or “She’s a multiple award winning artist with this many records so I don’t think she cares.” It reads like a 13 year olds comeback. Like ?! It always angers and/or baffles me that that’s their final response. 1. Because you know that when they say that it’s because they’ve nothing else to say because they most likely know they’re in the wrong. And 2. Is that the only way you see her? Through her achievements? Like I am a 17 year old woman that wants to become a marine biologist, what in the actual fuck do you think her awards mean to me. I am talking about her as a person and her morals and the only response you have for me is her material achievements? How does it correlate or matter when we’re talking about how shit of a person she really is? She’s won so many of this award and so many of that award? Good for her. I don’t give a fuck. I really don’t. I know I won’t ever have/win those awards and I don’t want to. If the only way you can defend her/ define her/ value her is through her achievements, that’s fucked up babe.

[joesalw]

I am not actively seeking out anything and the amount of articles I have seen this morning on anything Travis and Taylor related is insane. And the comments are flooded with fans demanding public statements on Ana and support for her family. The PR is in such bad taste. I wonder how Travis feels about the scrutiny being her partner now…and frankly I don’t care about him at all I’m just so annoyed he made that comment bc he has not even faced anything yet.

And I hope Brazilian swifties and Ana’s family feel support from the fan base/outside world. I do think there are legal reasons as to why Taylor hasn’t said anything but I would imagine there is something she could do. It’s all just a mess and this is not what Brazil deserves.

And to all of the other anons commenting on Joe’s resilience…I can’t even comprehend how he deals with this. If I was his friend I would be creating troll accounts left and right spilling tea 😂 Wouldn’t be surprised if Joe has signed an NDA. But also fucked up if so bc she can make songs and have her bf make public comments and he can’t ever defend himself…justice for Joe! (Cue the Bon Iver collab)

The amount of racism brazilian swifties have faced in the last couple of days is horrible. I honestly feel so bad for them

It's also inane how Taylor makes all of her boyfriends sign an nda before the relationship. Like isn’t that supposed to be the biggest red flag to ever exist? 😭 We really need those William Bowery x Bon Iver collab for his side of story lol

[jalwyn21]

one argument swifties make that i absolutely, viscerally despise is “She’s not a politician so why should she speak out about [x humanitarian issue]” because

she should speak out because she’s a human being! they call her an “ethical billionaire” but how is she ethical if she hoards most of her wealth while people get senselessly slaughtered?

she’s a rich person they proclaim is “the music industry” and has so much power and money that her endorsement of biden back in 2020 was crucial to him winning the election! now politicians are quite literally begging on their knees for her to endorse them too, including genocide joe!

(and this is the most important one of all) she’s a self proclaimed activist who profited off being so when it was lucrative for her to be one in 2018-2020, said she’d loudly fight against these issues, and has since been hush hush about every fucking issue there is including those in her own country. SHE was the one to hold herself to such a standard, it was HER own words and people are holding her accountable for sticking by them! a lot of other celebrities don’t get the same amount of criticism (though i think they still should receive criticism) because even if they did some activist work, they’ve never called themselves such nor made a documentary about it thereby never holding themselves to the same “activist” standard nor blatantly profiting off that title like she has

it just frustrates me to no end when swifties say this because it’s telling me that they are also as apathetic about the world as taylor is because if they really cared they would want her to actually say something and use her voice instead of constantly defending her

Yeah, but that was back in her Joe era …… this is now.

I said this before, but when a couple splits they each take back what they brought to the relationship. Sorry, babe, Joe took all the "activism" and all the "caring about others" with him when he left. 🤷‍♀️