#the lotus hotel and casino

[grumpylia]

i hate to be a hater but here’s a little yap about ep 6 of the pjo tv show

- i was soooo disappointed in this episode! i literally got bored halfway through LMAO and kept getting distracted which was so upsetting!! because the lotus hotel is one of my favourite chapters of the lightning thief!!

- starting from the beginning; i wish wish wish that we’d gotten the ‘you’re my friend, seaweed brain - anymore stupid questions?’ moment because i just love that moment

- but if they weren’t going to give that moment to us surely they could’ve at least given us?? something??

- instead of just luke’s fan service-y ‘old married couple line’

- i also think the whole the trio things tlt is clarisse thing is just?? underwhelming. the show hasn’t done a very good job at making us really understand the stakes here!!! it feels like they’re just fucking around and i don’t like it!! like they literally missed the deadline!! and that didn’t even feel like a big deal!! that should’ve felt earth shattering!!

- also where was the zebra. where was percy being able to talk to the zebra :(

- i wish also that they’d done more with grover in the start of this ep - they could’ve showed us his character rather than just giving us a massive exposition dump

- the EXPOSITION!! i was fine with it in the first few episodes, bc like the book isn’t exactly perfect with exposition either but it’s actually getting to a point where i think it’s taking me out of the story!

- why why why did they skip the lotus hotel stuff??? omg! i can understand some of the other changes (e.g. waterland) but the lotus stuff would’ve translated soo perfectly to screen!! it would’ve been such a good way to build tension without having the characters ohtroght saying to the audience “this is the lotus hotel. time doesn’t move properly here, and if you’re not careful you can forget who you are.”

- i still can’t believe that they didn’t adapt the book this chapter! it would’ve been so perfectly suited for screen! this tv show also has a tension/stakes problem so it would’ve been a great way to help fix that

- also they’re meant to be TWELVE ! ofc they come across a hotel with infinite food and games and money and love it! the whole point is that across the series we’ll see them grow and become more wary of these things! i could understand why they made the change with medusa, but them knowing what they were walking into here just felt like such a boring choice

- and if nothing else the lotus hotel episode should not be boring!!

- also why are we talking about may castellan🤨the reason it has so much impact in the og series is because you’re putting these pieces together and then it all just hits you

- but here it’s just like…

- and hermes’! i don’t have an issue if they wanted to include hermes’ in this scene - cancel me but i think lmm lowkey ate - but i don’t understand why they would do it in this very expositiony way. and are we not meant to think that hermes’ is neglecting luke too?? at least until som?? if i was writing this and i reallly wanted to include hermes’, i feel like there are sooo many different ways to include him that would’ve read sooo much better. still brainstorming what those ways are, but point still stands

- i did think the taxi scene was really funny tho sue me

i hate to be a hater because i really wanted to love this show! and i really did enjoy some specific moments and episodes! but i just wish they’d done a closer adaptation of the book - i think they’re trying to do way too much way too soon and they need to just let the characters and the story breathe for a bit before trying to really go heavy in with all these really in your face themes and exposition

[johnconstantinesdick]

I get the criticism of the Hunters of Artemis from a narrative perspective—it sucks that it essentially boots interesting female characters out of the story—but it always baffles me when people viciously hate Artemis for *checks notes* doing damage control.

Like. Thalia explicitly goes with Artemis to avoid the prophecy, and I definitely think that’s the reason Artemis tried so hard to get her to join—hell, you can view the hunters trying to recruit Annabeth as a way to get Thalia to join. And Bianca? You can’t convince me that Artemis didn’t guess there was something up there and react accordingly.

If Percy or Nico were even a little bit girl-adjacent you bet your ass she would be all over them to join. No one actually wants to risk the Great Prophecy happening, and Artemis is doing a hell of a lot more to stop it than anyone else.

[pjo-obsessed-nerd]

"How did they know the Lotus Hotel and Casino was the Lotus Eaters???"

Uh. Y'all.

Giant lotus blossom on the roof? Called the "LOTUS" Hotel and Casino? Like, you could not have known about the Lotus Eaters story and NOT have connected the dots. It's so obvious to anyone who knew about the lotus eaters.

Not to mention, it's pretty obvious the changes regarding how fast the trio catch onto the myths they're facing are meant to give them a feeling of helplessness when, despite doing EVERYTHING right, they still failed to meet the deadline.

They did everything to the best of their abilities, and STILL failed to beat the Solstice. It's clearly intentional, not some wack job choice they made for no reason. There's an intention here, and it's a dam good one, if I do say so myself.

Please just enjoy the show 😭

[your-stranger-halfblood-things]

Me when I see any emo looking kid who could possibly be Nico in the Lotus hotel:

[poseidons-getting-milk]

One thing that has always bothered me is in The Lighting Thief when the Lotis casino gives Percy, Annabeth, and Grover all debit cards to use for the arcade games (and i think as room keys??) They supposedly each get a card.

Then when they realize what to casino/hotel actually is and they try to get out as fast as they can in a taxi, the driver checks the card’s balance and it literally just shows an infinity symbol.

Those cards EACH have and INFINITE amount of money.

They all saw how much money was on that card, and when they got out of the taxi, THEY TOLD THE DRIVER HE COULD KEEP IT!!!

Now maybe the other two lost their cards before they left the hotel, so that could be why they didn’t have theirs, but why would they just give it to the driver? I mean, Annabeth really didn’t think of how useful that could be?

Sure, maybe it could’ve been used to track them down, but go to a damn ATM!!

Percy could’ve payed off all of Sally’s debts, they could have used to complete this and other quests, they could’ve brought it to camp so future campers had more than the A HUNDRED FREAKING DOLLARS they were given for their quests that usually require traveling across the country for days, THEY COULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING WITH IT!!

I think it maybe said that only Las Vegas drivers would accept casino cards, but i’m sure they could’ve found a way to turn that INFINITE amount of money into cash or something. Even if they didn’t have time for that on their quest they could’ve taken the card with them and converted it later.

Obviously we didn’t get this in the series since it’s Hamilton’s i mean Hermes’ taxi they take.

IM JUST STILL PISSED ABOUT IT TO THIS DAY

[sisididis]

Bianca and Nico di Angelo’s story is equal parts heartbreaking and hilarious, because imagine this. You are two Venetian children (aged 12 and 10 respectively) who don’t speak a lick of English yet you’re dropped off in the middle of 1930s Las Vegas. Although it feels like only 2 months have passed since your arrival, you and your sibling unknowingly spend 70 years in an atemporal limbo known as Lotus Hotel Casino. You learn English by playing tabletop games, bingo, ring toss, slots…even Mythomagic.

When you think about it, Bianca and Nico learned to speak English the same way 2010s kids learned by watching Pewdiepie and Markiplier on Youtube. 

[bogslob]

“I bungee-jumped the lobby five or six times, did the waterslide, snowboarded the artificial ski slope, and played virtual-reality laser tag and FBI sharpshooter. I saw Grover a few times, going from game to game. He really liked the reverse hunter thing—where the deer go out and shoot the rednecks. I saw Annabeth playing trivia games and other brainiac stuff. They had this huge 3-D sim game where you build your own city, and you could actually see the holographic buildings rise on the display board. I didn’t think much of it, but Annabeth loved it.”

They were really robbed of their one fun questing day in the show

[ticktockheartstop]

Ngl, I was a little confused when Lin was cast as Hermes, but in my opinion, he kinda nailed it!

[pjotvshownews]

Wait until you see the Lotus . . . you will know this part of the adventure well if you’ve read the books, but you will also find lots of fun details, new scenes and Easter eggs that make the experience even better.

Rick Riordan (x)

[littlewolf651]

More PJO series spoilers cause while this wasn’t my favorite episode I’m seeing certain complaints that I wanna share my opinions on.

I am a bit confused why people that think Grover’s character was made weaker in this episode.

Like if you think this please tell me why cause I’m really curious.

But here’s why I disagree.

The past few episodes have done a good job establishing a disconnect between Grover and Percy & Annabeth regarding nature and Pan.

From Percy and Annabeth arguing in front of Ferdinand’s statue.

To the arch scene with Annabeth calling the arch a dedication to Athena vs Grover calling it a testament to the destruction of nature.

To this episode where Grover really doesn’t care about the people on the street and is happy that the animals will be able to get to the wild safely unlike Percy being worried for the citizens.

Grover blatantly tells Augustus that he doesn’t feel like he can talk about this to Percy and Annabeth because he doesn’t think they’d understand.

Of course if he finds someone he knows that would understand and suddenly offers him a chance to find Pan, he’d take it.

Grover’s not stupid, he calls out that he won’t eat anything and freaks out when seeing that Augustus still forgets things despite that. And Annabeth and Percy still mostly forgot Grover for a bit too. They just had each other to keep focus on the main quest.

As Annabeth said, “It’s easier to forget what’s important when you’re alone.”

Grover was both alone physically in the scene but also thematically in the search for pan.

He forgot the main quest and his friends because talking about/ finding Pan became more important to him.

But Idk thanks for coming to my TED Talk or whatever.

[devils-little-sista]

Hahahahaaaaaa Annabeth pickpocketing Hermes I love that she probably learned how from Luke and Thalia and of course invisible hat helps

[fairlyfatale]

the dead line passed!? this changes so much! i can’t wait to see what they do from here on

also rip clarrise

[your-stranger-halfblood-things]

If we see a girl with a skull ring on her finger, holding hands with a little boy, both dressed in 40s clothes...

I'm gonna be so so happy

[ladynicte]

I have always imagined that The Lotus Hotel and Casino is like a sacred place of Dyonisus or at least like sponsored and protected by him in some way.

And my personal headcanon is that maybe it was invented for Dyonisus to avoid sending his children to Camp and eventually to Quests and War.

And the eternal party and fun is a sort of worship of Dyonisus that eventually completely warps the mind to those who don't share his bloodline.

(Also, my way of relating this back to Nico, is that I like to think Dyonisus grows to be pretty fond of the Demigods who actually stay at The Casino and can see through the Mist, so Dyonisus already appreciated Nico cuz of all the decades he and Bianca spent at the Casino, even though Nico himself can't quite remember it.)

[carlele-1021]

we take a zebra to vegas

notes on this week's episode

okay, im just going to jump right in

not the cracker barrel billboard 😭

iris message to camp! ( even if it's not the correct time line w/ the books )

not luke blaming clarisse

luke calling annabeth & percy an old married couple ❤️

dua lipa!

sally reading percy the odyssey graphic novel

"what do you think, wise girl?"

all the talk about luke's mom?!?! i feel like it was not necessary to the plot but then again i didn't get hermes being there either

agustus being like wth is going on who are you? to grover

percy confiding in annabeth about his dreams ❤️

"if you don't know, what chance do i have?"

lin manuel miranda 💛

annabeth stealing hermes keys!!  💛

"who's grover?" 💔

not percy thinking agustus was grover 😭

"to the dumb kids"

percy having road rage

what about crusty? are we going to see him later?

the summer solstice passing in the show?!?

the 4 pearls? i feel like that's going to take away from the line in the prophecy, 'you shall fail to save what matters most in the end'

let me know what you think in the comments!

[bogslob]

“Die, human! Die, silly polluting nasty person!”

I love Grover