#this is why I never put any celeb on a pedestal

[doll-book]

𝐚 𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫: 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐝𝐨𝐧'𝐭 𝐧𝐞𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐧 𝐬/𝐨 𝐢𝐧 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲 𝐝𝐫. · ° . ♡ ⊹

☆彡 -`, why building your dr around a partner could possibly be a blockage ꒱ 𔓘

ʚɞ゜・゜this is something i only internalized recently. on social media, i began noticing that when anti-shifters decide to run their mouths, they usually attack us or call us delusional for scripting popular celeb/character partners first. that means that the shifting content locals are exposed to first is about significant others and dating in other realities.

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💭 i started thinking .. why? why is 90% of shifting content i see about couple scenarios, s/o faceclaims, etc? why is recent shifting culture so based around dating and finding love in other realities? lately, i realize i've also been affected by the content i see so much. i have only one dr where i don't have an s/o, and it's my self care dr. i felt & still feel like i had to be dating someone in every reality i wanted to shift to, and if i didn't, i'd be missing out on something.

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💭 i’ve now realized that this way of thinking could possibly be a blockage. when you build your entire dr around a person, you neglect the other important parts of shifting to a real place. when you shift in, you won't be spending 24 hours a day with your s/o. even if you did, you'd quickly get tired. (i know, getting tired of THE namjoon or THE beomgyu sounds crazy, but they're people just like us. don't put your s/o on a pedestal once you shift in, that's unhealthy for both of you (ˊ‸ ˋ )...)

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i had to take a step back, and ask myself realistic questions like: ➴ "is this a dr where i have the time and energy to emotionally support my s/o?" ➴ "will our relationship be healthy in the long run, taking our lifestyles into account?"

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— ꒰ ♡ ꒱ ˎˊ˗ there was some discourse over this on tiktok (as always🙄). people were saying, "if you think your relationship is/will be unhealthy, just script it never becomes that way and you both love each other wholeheartedly forever."

💭 i don't want to make this complicated by getting into my beliefs about scripting, but simply put: your s/o is a real person, with real emotions and feelings. i can't stress this enough. you can script that they love you forever, but if both of you are in an environment that is busy or constantly changing, that will affect the dynamic of your relationship no matter what you script. it doesn't mean that they'll stop loving you, but like any normal relationship, the circumstances have to work out.

💭 furthermore, if you script that they love you forever no matter what, that could become a burden for you. what happens if you lose feelings, want to pursue other dreams, grow emotionally exhausted, etc? scripting relationships is a super sensitive thing imo, but shifters kinda gloss over it. it could unintentionally lead to traumatic experiences in your dr, so pls be careful pookie!

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➴ what circumstances make for an unhealthy relationship? i'll use one of my drs as an example: my rich & famous dr.

💭 i'm a world famous model and actress in this dr, with a number of amicable breakups from before i shift in. naturally, i scripted that i start dating one of my biases, and everything seemed perfectly fine until i started truly getting into the headspace of this dr. i began visualizing my day to day life, and not once did my relationship cross my mind.

💭 i scripted a packed schedule full of fun things i've always wanted to do. photoshoots and movies and exclusive parties and secret friendgroups - literally everything that makes a glamorous lifestyle. i scripted that the only day i have off completely is sunday, for relaxation, self care, and sleeping in.

and then, i started thinking about my partner. ➴ "when will i see her next?" ➴ "what will we do when we're together?" ➴ "are we both excited to see each other?"

when i answered these questions honestly, i realized most of them were negative.

➴ "i might not see her for a one or two because of our overlapping schedules." ➴ "we might go on a date, if she's tired we can just hang out at home." ➴ "realistically, no.. we'd probably both be tired, even if we meet up on an off-day because of our exhausting work weeks."

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💭 when i shared my thoughts to some shifting friends, they just said "script that your workload isn't as much." but.. i don't want to? i enjoy the realism of being tired after a long day. it's like proof i truly worked, and everything isn't just a dream. i could script that my schedule is more spread out to make time for my s/o, but then we come to my point:

💭 i dont want to change the entire structure of my dr just to have a partner. if my s/o doesn't fit into the dr i planned, i don't want to squeeze them into it. to me, building your dr around having an s/o feels wrong and unnatural. i notice shifters tend to forget: you're really truly actually going to this place. you have your own life to live, things to do, etc etc. don't let having a partner overshadow the experience of shifting.

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💭 when it comes to actually fixing the issue, it may feel weird to delete an entire person out of your dr or become strangers w/ them - so just change your relationship status. in my fame dr, i re-scripted my former s/o to a person i'll meet and become very close friends with. if it turns into something more over time, after i shift in, that's great!! yay for me! i just don't want to feel held back by someone i should be cherishing, and instead let it happen naturally. if you feel more comfortable scripting out your relationship, then you do you!

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NOTE: i'm not trying to say stop scripting significant others. by all means, script an s/o! a partner! a boyfriend! a girlfriend! a husband! a wife! a spouse! a sneaky link! anything! it's your reality, i'm not trying to take away from that fact. i'm just pointing out how shifters often gloss over the realness of being in a relationship. this was simply a reminder for those who may be feeling the same way i did, and to help those people to make the neccessary changes. if you feel that the relationship you've scripted is happy and healthy, go for it cutie! even if its not happy or healthy, but you.. want that..? it's none of my business fr 🤷‍♀️. you were warned, and you have the resources you need to do your research. i trust you!

and one more thing i should mention, i'm saying all this without even starting on how the aroace shifting community must feel abt it. if you're aroace & wanna share any comments, suggestions, or experiences, pls msg or ask !! this is something that affects most shifters regardless of orientation but aroace ones especially😭 hope yall are hanging in there..

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that's all! ily!

[oraclemoontarot]

Kpop readings??

Girl stop!

Stop fueling delusions, celeb worship, idolizing, idealising etc. Ffs.

Kpop "idols" are humans who are stuck in the darkest industry ever. Please research on it. The kind of abuse that goes on in that industry is terrible. They can't even have free will. Do you even know what that's like?

Also please stop trivializing tarot. Stop this nonsense at once.

This is a divination tool and not an entertainment tool.

I apologise for the lengthy response, but I wanted to make sure I answered this properly.

I understand you have your own feelings and opinions on this, and I appreciate you sharing them. However, everyone has a right to engage with tarot in their own way as long as it is respectful and doesn't harm anyone.

One of the points you mentioned could be applied to a lot of other non k-pop related readings - like, what are their feelings for me? Who is my future spouse? Are those not similar and fuel 'delusions' and create expectations too?

I stated fairly recently on here that it is unfair to assume everyone who requests or engages in k-pop related readings are delusional or put idols on some sort of pedestal - because I don't, and I know quite a lot of people who don't either.

Tarot can be used in a balanced manner. You can have readings that offer guidance, that are used in meaningful and 'serious' ways, but you can also have fun and light readings, most tarot readers feel like this as well. There is already so much negativity in this world, and it's unnecessary to police others in what they find enjoyment in, as long as boundaries aren't crossed.

It is important to have boundaries for certain things - hence why I don't do 18+, future spouse, or mental health readings on celebrities. I only do, 'what would they think of you if...' etc. as they're 'what ifs' not, 'this will happen if you do x, y, and z'. I never want to cross any lines, especially when it involves people I don't know on a personal basis, and vice versa, I also avoid questions surrounding scandals - just to maintain a level of respect.

I have been a fan of k-pop for 8 years, I have been there through some of the darkest, saddest, and most disgusting times that have occurred within that industry. There are even more things we do not know that goes on behind what we see, have heard, and assume to happen. I wonder if you feel the same way with other celebrity readings too, as there are dark and sad things in various contexts. And, as a divination tool, if you're not meant to see it, it won't come up. I've had that happen in some readings and didn't push further.

To address some of your other concerns regarding trivialising tarot and, I assume, the ethics of k-pop readings? I grew up surrounded by tarot, spirituality, etc. due to my mother introducing me to it. I have a lot of respect towards this medium, as well as a lot of love for it. In terms of the ethics, just as I have mentioned earlier, it is important to set boundaries and avoid questions that seem like overstepping or are uncomfortable topics - I also avoid predictions surrounding an idol.

Again, I appreciate your view on this and I understand where you're coming from. But I don't appreciate the tone as it feels like you're putting me down in some way. I love discussions and debates, I love it even more when the other person has a different viewpoint as you can oftentimes learn a lot. But I prefer we do it in a mature and respectful way, as others are more likely to take what you say into consideration and would be more willing to hear you out. Again, it is likely because you are quite passionate about this, and I get it. But there is no need to demand others to say, do, or think in a certain way - we are all entitled to our own opinions, but should be open to different viewpoints and communication. Discussions are more valuable and can be just as effective, after all.

I posted this a few weeks ago and I think it sums it up a lot better in regards to my view on this topic (with a stronger focus on tarot readers, however), I had referred to it earlier too: here

Anyway, I hope I answered your response well. If I misunderstood or if my response was not relevant to what you were talking about, please let me know, I just got back from work so my brain may not be at full working capacity 😭

[ariel26c]

Hi!

I hope you’re enjoying your vacation ☺️

I was wondering if you knew of success stories of fans dating their famous sp, not like Jason Momoa and people who are near celebrtity from the start but like, actual fans and stuff if that makes sense? And even more if it’s about Kpop idols cause mine is and O’m very close to giving up because I am spiraling down BAAAAD like everything feels impossible, my mind tells me he probably already has someone and stuff and I’m just, tired and lonely in general maybe?

Like to be honest, I saw him not too long ago and I don’t know why but some stuff I script happen DOWN TO THE DETAIL and some just don’t (even more when it’s about my celeb sp) and I don’t know why 🥺

I tried watching vids on YouTube and it’s never really helpful, a girl even said it was too tiring to do and not worth it cause she has manifested meeting one (people reminding her that just meeting isn’t the same as dating)

I don’t know I just feel like I’m gonna spiral and I know that my fears are manifesting cause I’m focusing on them and stuff and like, the more I think of taking a break the more scared I am that I’m gonna lose him because it would mean I’m not manifesting him or something ?

I don’t know I’m just yapping at this point it feels impossible but then I never know but

Ahh feeling lonely is getting long

Much love 🩷

It’s okay to feel like it’s impossible but in reality it’s not. We are limitless meaning we can have anything we want. We have been programmed into thinking that some people are just out of our league and or too good for us when that’s simply not true.

You can have anything and anyone. You putting this person on a pedestal is only gonna make it feel even more impossible. Realize that’s whoever they are they are still human at the end of the day. Before fame your SP was living a normal life unless they were born into fame. Either way it doesn’t matter. When you manifest a relationship with this person you’ll laugh at how easy it actually is and how there was no reason to stress yourself out.

I don’t know if you know but there a member from EXO who is married to a office worker. His wife is not famous at all yet they still fell in love and currently have two kids together. Celebrities are not better than you just because they are famous babe.

Babe you are GOD. Would God beg for something?? No God would simply get it. Period.

As for scripting it will work if you assume it works. If you don’t actually like scripting and it doesn’t feel like it works for you simply try something else. Any method works because you are the source, you give power to these methods. It’s not the methods that manifest your desires it’s you.

It’s okay to feel lonely and want a relationship. That’s perfectly fine but you just have to stick to the new story. No more searching up how to manifest an SP. Choose to identify as the version of you who is already in a relationship with them. No going back and forth between the old and the new story. You either have it or you don’t.

Btw I’m back!!! Thank you for all your support 🫶

[neptunescore]

at the end of the day we don’t know any of these guys (f1 drivers). Even if we met them in passing it still doesn’t mean we know them on any deep level. That’s why it’s always good to never put famous people/celebs on a pedestal. People will be like I don’t like (insert driver), but I like (insert driver) bc he seems more (blah blah blah). But what is anyone going off of? We can only go off of whatever they have shown us/the public. Who they are behind closed doors in their everyday lives with colleagues, friends and family…we’ll never know. I personally love watching the races and am rooting for a few drivers, but it’s not deep for me. I don’t buy the merch or anything like that. If they don’t have good results, oh well I just hope for the next race to be a better outcome. It’s just supposed to be a fun sport to watch. 10 or so years from now there will be some different people on the grid. Maybe Alonso will still be there though lol.

Yep yep yep anon, this is always the main point I'm trying to make every time I answer my asks. However, all I'm trying to say is that we should call them out on questionable stuff they do, just like we call everyone else out. Bc at the end of the day, these ppl have such power over some of their fans, and they have such a large media presence, they should be taking accountability for something wrong they've done as to prevent their fans (especially younger ones) from thinking that doing that kind of stuff is okay.

Ngl, ur alonso line had me CRACKING UP💀✋🏽

[yoonia]

https://www.tumblr.com/darkwitchgardener/746072202665967616/why-are-some-tumblr-writers-so-fucking-entitled

as a writer do you have an opinion on that? personally i think it’s rude but most people under that post seem to agree but i bet they never post anything

Okay, let's talk about this. I personally do think that this post is not only a weird take, but also rude and disrespectful. let me dissect every part of their nonsense and share my thoughts in this

why are some tumblr writers becoming so fucking entitled?💀 like why are basically forcing people to reblog your work?

Let's look at these tumblr writers, shall we?

Most of us here have real life outside of this site and outside of fanfics. Some of us are struggling to finish school, college, some are even on their way to achieve their PhD titles and yet they still spare their precious time to sit down and write fanfics for free between writing down their thesis and studying for exams. Some others have 9 to 5 jobs, or maybe freelance jobs that don't have a steady working hours (meaning they could have been working 36 hours nonstop without sleep, aka just like me), while also dealing with a spouse or children to take care of in between jobs and they are still writing fanfics for YOU to read for free (ps. when I say YOU here doesn't mean I'm talking to you, sweet anon. I'm directing this to the OG poster and whoever is agreeing with their take)

I feel like looking at this alone, if a writer wants to be entitled to have their work promoted through reblogs, to be circulated around by their readers, and to have any kind of feedback, then they are allowed to. After all that hard work put on a free content, the many hours we spent and the lack of sleep we all get to finish a fic, whether it's 100 words or 100k words, the least a reader could do is show a bit of support or any form of appreciation

(I'm not saying that readers should treat us writers like Gods and celebs either, or for us to be placed on top of a pedestal, by the way. This is an entirely different kind of writers entitlement that I'd love to talk about in a different post, but this isn't the kind of 'entitlement' that's being talked about here, so...)

Why do writers ASK readers to reblog our fics?

Because tumblr's reblog system is the main reason why we chose to post our fics on Tumblr in the first place. Reblogging helps our post to be circulated around, while keeping our copyright safe/still belong to us instead of being reposted by others, and each time anyone finds our fic in their dash, these new people will be directed back to us without any reblogger/reader having to get into any amount of trouble of having to link you back to us or credit us (like reposters on wattpad barely do)

Likes and kudos may help boost our fics if it had been in any other platforms, but the same can't apply here on Tumblr. Because liking a post only helps YOU, a reader, to keep the post that you like to be 'bookmarked' on your 'liked' list. Not anyone will be able to see those liked posts unless you make them public or if these other people would spend more time perusing your blog

I personally don't mind if readers can only leave a like, even if I can't tell if it means you're actually loving the story or you're only bookmarking it to read later. At least, a like on my circulating fic indicates that you've seen my work and that's already enough for me. And I can also tell you that I, as many other writers, will always appreciate deeply those who take their time to at least leave a comment whether it's on reply or an ask if they can't help reblog the fic. Which means, if you can't reblog it, we can't really force you to do it, but we WILL love it if anyone do it

Talking about "Only likes will be blocked"

I have never once seen any of my writer friends saying this on their posts. Do I agree with this? No, not really. But I also don't agree when the OG poster said something about a writer adding this on their disclaimer because the writer thinks they have 'a power over other people's blog'. Like...this is another weird take.

Because for me, the only power that this disclaimer gives a writer is the power to curate their own blog and their audience.

I may not agree with a writer putting said disclaimer (especially when it leads to people clumping them with a bunch of us who don't think this is necessary to do) but I can't fault them by adding this disclaimer on their blog. Maybe this writer has a problem with silent readers or is fed up with the imbalance between likes and reblogs that don't do much in helping boost their fics?

We'll never know what's the reason behind this disclaimer but, I'm going to turn this one back around to the OG poster and their supporters and say, who are YOU to think you have the power to decide how a writer should be running their blog?

I've seen other writers doing things that I don't agree with, but it's their business and it's not my problem how they're handling their blog and their audience. If you can't agree with one writer's way in how they are running their blog, then perhaps you can turn away and support other writers instead? some of us don't bite and aren't rude to others. some don't even care what you do, as long as you're not stealing their work. some others don't have enough energy to do either one of the above and are only here to post fics and have fun (like me lol)

just don't post your shit at this point lmaooo 😭😭

This one is the part that makes me smh the most. Let me ask you this, which one would hurt a fandom community more: when writers or content creators suddenly feel like they have enough of entitled readers and choose to stop posting, delete everything, leaving nothing behind for other people in the fandom community to enjoy, or a loss of followers?

Content enjoyers and readers come and go, we all know this, we've all experienced this, but not everyone is willing to spare their time to write or create content for other people to enjoy. Fandom community will keep growing. New audience will keep on coming. But if nobody is creating anything, what happens to the community? What is there to enjoy?

I agree with you, anon. I don't think this person knows anything about what kind of hard work goes behind a fic or a content. Because if they'd known even just a sliver of what goes behind the scene and how these contents they are enjoying here in this site came to be, they would have never said any crap on what a creator does in order to feel appreciated and supported by their audience

[dearweirdme]

https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/729355573349449728/hi-i-know-it-wasnt-his-intention-but-im-feeling I am so tired of these people who are making it very obvious they're looking for any reason to drag JK. JK, the one who has spent most of the year going live to hang out and chat with fans way more than any other member has EVER? For hours at a time? It wasn't just during Seven promo either, he's been giving and giving and giving to these ungrateful people all year. What do they want from him? If he makes an appearance or reaches out to fans he's a leech stealing the spotlight, if he doesn't he's selfish and aloof. He gets his privacy grossly and constantly invaded anyway. The amount of hatred he's getting right now is insane people resent him so much and he can never do anything right according to them. Why can't they just leave him alone?

Hi anon!

Mmm, I think when a pedestal is really high.. it’s easy for people to be disappointed or to get offended. When Jk promoted Seven there were so many calling him arrogant. I think at times it’s actually something fandom itself creates.. one biggger account says something and others create a snowball effect. Celebs are so often put under a magnifying glass.

Every reason Jk would have had to not do a live would be valid. If it’s because his pr advisor told him.. valid. If he just didn’t feel like it… valid. If he was too busy.. valid. He can do whatever he wants.

[stannyramirez]

not sure if you're aware but jon bernthal stands in solidarity with shia labeouf, the interview they had together "hot ones" was disgusting.

alright, nonny, here i come. more info under the cut and tw: for ab*se.

first and foremost, i wanna say that i had no idea about the content of the REAL ONES podcast until this message. i watched both jon's real ones podcast with shia as a guest and his hot ones episode, though there was no mention of shia in the latter. and, yes, i listened to every last second of the 2 hour podcast. i took notes.

i think "stands in solidarity" is a bit of a strong statement. i think, after watching, that maybe jon and shia are just really good friends, and that jon is empathetic to the flawed human being that shia is. this is in no way an apologetic post for shia, i don't care one way or another about him, but... sincerely, did you watch the podcast?

jon opened a door for shia to talk about his experience, and i don't see anything wrong with that. shia spent the whole two hours apologizing for his deplorable actions and speaking on how he needs to make up for it, how he's going to be 'making amends' for the rest of his life, not only to those he victimized but to the other people his actions affected. i think that takes a lot of balls... to use your voice and actually hold yourself fucking accountable. so, kudos to shia, because i don't see any of these other sleazeball men accused in hollywood coming forward and expressing their regret, expressing how flawed and immature they were when they made their choices, and actively trying to be better people after the fact.

we have to think about celebrity culture and discourse. why do we put these people on such high pedestals? they are people with flaws, people who make mistakes, people who fuck up, people who feel. why do we cancel one celebrity for maintaining a friendship with another after questionable behavior as if that celeb engaged in the behavior themselves? i don't believe in damning someone for being guilty by association, and i have a lot of feelings on the whole issue of cutting someone out of your life based on their past actions. idk anything about shia's previous relationship or the shit he's accused of or where he was mentally, and, frankly i don't care, because -- like he said more than once -- there's no excuse, nothing else matters other than the fact that he did those bad things. but, as a survivor of abuse, i have not cut out the people in my life who remain close and supportive of my abuser. that's just not the way the world works, i'm so sorry.

the entire interview/conversation is one that reveals the many flaws of the egos of men in hollywood, how it's easy to fall into that headspace. never ONCE do either of them make excuses for themselves, never once does jon pardon him or tell him he feels sorry for him or that things should be different. he simply offered a FRIEND a platform to say what he needed to say. i wasn't disgusted by the podcast at all. did shia rub me the wrong way a few times? yes, absolutely, but he's not my friend, and i don't believe any of the content in the episode was problematic or hurtful to anyone. that said, i fully support jon and his work, and i'm not going to stop liking him or suddenly cancel him because he happens to have a friend who's done some shit i don't agree with.

[3terna15unshin3]

hi i really love your writing btw but i just wanted to ask bc i saw your post abt rina's comments on matty healy — i was wondering if u could expand on your thoughts on separating the art from the artist or anything like that.

Hellooooo thank u!!!! anon is referring to this post btw.

This is a tough convo 😬😬😬 and I’m honestly still working through what separating art from the artist means to me! But here’s sort of what I think.

I have always refused to watch Woody Allen movies or support Chris Brown’s music. And would 100% stop respecting anyone who preaches anti-vaxx or anti-choice bullshit. I’d never listen to Kanye West on purpose either. I think these dangerous narratives pushed out by ppl whose moral compass are clearly different than mine just totally water down the art they make. Kanye being a fucking weirdo antisemite automatically discredits any good music he makes, to me.

But I’ve also never been connected to any of it. I don’t care for his music, or Chris Brown’s, and I can live without Woody Allen movies. So it’s easy for me to boycott it all. With The 1975’s music—it shaped my teen years. It makes important statements, it breaks boundaries, I feel it so much more deeply than other music makes me feel. So as embarrassing or hypocritical it may be, it would probably take a lot for me to stop listening to it and supporting the band🥲

Matty’s issue is that he thinks ‘teenage boy peepee poopoo make me a sandwich humor’ is funny. Which is really immature and can be damaging to project. But then he turns around and says profound and very intelligent shit about important issues and builds this super leftist radical progressive political stance…… so what the fuck dude! Pick a fucking side! This is why I’m still here…. holding out hope that if he really cares about these issues then he’ll speak out.

Idk I’m rambling at this point but bottom line we just have to stop putting these celebs on pedestals. Call them out when they do fucked up shit, and don’t kiss their asses trying to defending them in the name of being a stan. And also remember that we don’t fucking know them….. like what do u mean ‘you know he’s a good guy and that he’d never say anything misogynistic’ ????? HOW do u know????😭😭😭

I am also reading the book “Monsters: A Fan’s Dilemma” by Claire Dederer. It dives super deep into this conversation and I think reading it will help me understand my stance better—just haven’t finished it yet! If you’re passionate about it I’d suggest checking it out :))))

[safetyrat]

🍒🧡💧 + CHRYSES!!!

i am kissing you on the lips and transferring all the riches of the universe to your bank account as we speak

heres the ask game (ocs are midas, adra, veras, isca and chryses)

🍒 What kind of things do they expect from their relationships? Does this differ between platonic relationships and romantic ones? Is your OC “demanding” or a door mat? What kinds of things do people expect from them in a relationship?

oh god chryses and relationships is tough, as he only ever had two people in his life who actually treated him as an equal and who he was close to. in his childhood he has only ever been treated lesser, as a child that doesn't know anything and has to be left in the dark about everything going on. so i think the only real demand he has is to never be treated like that again.

his following later actually respect him and actually think of him as a capable leader, rather than that he has to be groomed into that role, and he thrives under that attention. thats his demand towards his subjects. but i dont think he could ever have a personal relationship with somebody that puts him on this pedestal like that.

isca is different. because as much as he bullies and teases chryses, something that irritates the hell out of him at first, isca always both treats him like a normal, not untouchable human and also as someone valuable. isca makes use of chryses cleverness, indulges in his passion, actually listens when he is worried about something. the only demand chryses could have towards isca is that he doesnt also leave him and. haha about that

chryses is very aromantic so the only thing he expects out of a romantic relationship is a Respectable And Politically Benificial Wife Who He Can Court Smile :)

what other people expect out of chryses... they expect him to be the person they idealized him to be. the flawless king. the saviour of all. the reviver of justice. if i had to find a flaw between iscas and chryses relationship it would be that isca never fully lost that part that so desperately longed for a prophet that shared his views. he treats chryses like a normal person, sure, but he never lost that glow in his eyes when thinking about what chryses could achieve.

i think the only person who could truly see chryses as the person he is and not the person he was born to be is his brother. but LMAO yeah that ain't happening anytime soon.

🧡 Who is your OC’s favourite person? Why is this person the top of their list and have they actually met them (an idol or rolemodel or celeb can be someone’s favourite after all!).

i think if chryses was asked this question, his initial reply would be a snarky "nobody"

if he was allowed to think about it, especially about the 'it doesnt have to be somebody you've met' part, i think he'd arrive at justice. chryses is very very religous and never looses that deep admiration and connection to that goddess. to his goddess, he has been told all his live that she chose him after all.

...the actual answer is very obviously isca FGHJKH but do you think chryses will ever admit to that??

💧 What is the earliest memory your OC can recall? Do they know what their first words were or remember where they took their first steps? Do they have any mementos of their childhood they’ve kept such as a stuffed toy or tiny baby clothes?

chryses has no recollection of his childhood in the palace, nor does he still own anything from that time. the revivers made sure of that. generally his early childhood is defined by not knowing what is going on, being passed from one room to the other and a lot of pain. the only times that were ever good were when he had his sibling by his side. if i had to pick a particular moment that he remembers first itd look probably a little like this, though:

the room is small, but its so empty that it still looks bleak and sad. the only things decorating the walls are emblems he doesnt know the significans of and writing he cannot read. he is sitting on a bed, but the surface is leathery and cold, not comfortable at all. he doesnt remember the face of the person next to him, but he does remember a womans voice promising "dont worry, it wont hurt at all" before slicing open his skin in a straight line on his upper arm. he watches fluid gold trickle down into the vial she is holding. this is after he has learned that crying and protesting doesnt serve a purpose. but he hasnt taught himself not to flinch yet.

[gossipgirloff1]

I didn't say anything about his problematic friends, i myself hate them and call him out for it, my whole take is some of you are trying to compare him to diddy, like is he now a pedo? a rapist? an abuser? just because of a one picture and btw he never praised diddy or anything he listened to his music? all hollywood did and everyone in the world does btw, im not trying to defend him at all actually i know he's not perfect and his circle of friends have disgusting people in it, what struck me was just the diddy thing, and with zero proof of it anything else you and everyone can attack him for it i really don't care he's a celeb after all and i don't hold him or any celeb on a pedestal they all have some weird or problematic side

No one compared him to diddy did you read what we were talking about ? You are writing a whole paragraph defending him just because you said I’m not trying to defend him isn’t gonna change that we didn’t call him names or spread hate towards him

Like you said we have no proof of if they are friends or not so you can’t be sure if they are or not why try to defend him about it

It’s good for you if you are not putting people on a pedestal like what we are doing here pointing out their problematic behavior and their problematic friend circles (that doesn’t mean we aren’t gonna call them out)

[madalice31]

Actually, one more thing.

The only reason why celebrity culture is the way that it is today is because of social media and gen z.

When I was growing up, I didn’t have access to see the inside of Lil Kim’s house. R.Kelly wasn’t posting pics of him and Aaliyah on dates(maybe he would have got arrested sooner). TLC wasn’t doing dance challenges on TikTok. Hell I see Beyonce more now than I ever did when she was with Destiny’s Child.

We didn’t know these people. We only knew what we saw in interviews and read in the gossip rags. No one was tweeting they business, going live to talk about drama, or any of that shit. I don’t even think Papz were getting paid as much as they do now for photos and videos. Cause our generation was never attached. Celebrities were creatives getting paid to entertain the world. That was it. We paid attention when we felt like it and moved on with real life when we didn’t. A lot of celebs could still go outside and not be recognized or bothered. And it surprised us whenever they did get involved in world issues.

But now being a celebrity means something totally different, and ANYONE can be a celebrity no matter if you got talent or not. We got one hit wonders winning Grammys because it’s a popularity contest now. Celebrities used to have to work hard for brand deals. Now they can create their own shit at a drop of a hat. Much like YOU can if you put your mind to it. It’s easier than it used to be, that’s for sure. All you gotta do is build up a following. So it’s hilarious to me that the generation who literally built this version of celebrity up is now suddenly claiming to be revolutionary by no longer building them up. And then on top of that if you go to Lizzo’s page, which I did out of curiosity, y’all got the girl so shook now she throwing charity after charity at yall, but in the comments it’s nothing but people criticizing her for not caring until she lost followers. Or asking what about her support for other genocides happening around the world. Lmao. Guess they can’t win no matter what. I thought yall would be happy she cares now. Wasn’t that the point? FORCE them to show support right? I mean since when did you care if the support was genuine? Or how well versed she is in all the drama going on around the world? Y’all can’t even seem to get on the same page on what this “movement” is actually about.

Lizzo is a regular woman who makes music. She gets paid as much as she does because she’s good at what she does. But that’s all. She’s a singer and musician. She’s not a revolutionary. She’s not an activist. She’s not a role model. She never claimed to be. None of these celebs claimed to be. Y’all projected that on to them. The ones who are about that life don’t even flaunt it like that, they just do what they can behind the scenes. Don’t get mad at them cause YOU placed them on a pedestal they didn’t ask to be on.

I read a quote recently that said “In some dark corners [of the web] people may argue. But that’s not real life” and that person spoke nothing but truth.

Maybe unplug for a bit and y’all can come up with some real solutions.

[evansbby]

this is really random but i fucking HATE celebrity culture and I’ve felt this way from a really young age. it’s like they live in a different realm from us… the shit they complain about it’s actually mind-blowing… like the entitlement

[daydreamrry]

the thing is that harry stans have a hard time understanding that a PR relationship is very common in Hollywood and they think that harry would never be involved with one. he “doesn’t need the publicity” but he actually does. not everyone is a fan of him or knows his music so him being in the press gets his name out there more. like my dad has no idea who he is but he heard his cover of sledgehammer and really liked it but that’s all he’s heard of harry. harry is not a household name yet. they think he is because to them, he’s this massive star but he’s still working his way up in the industry. they have him on a pedestal so he could do no wrong. the hardcore harries don’t actually care about his relationship with octopus. it’s just their imagine and idea of who harry is, is being ruined when people say he’s in a PR relationship because “harry could never. he doesn’t need PR”. him being involved in something like this knocks harry off the throne they put him on because they think he’s this fragile person and would never do something like this. but it happens so often that it’s also normal in the way of hollywood. like harry and other celebrities live completely different lives then from the average normal person does, so they probably don’t think anything of a PR relationship. to them that might be normal.

I think if harry could make music and perform and make a living from it and not be in the limelight or be involved in hollywood, then he would 100%. but unfortunately this is all apart of his job and life now.

THIS RIGHT HERE!!!! perfectly worded! you didn’t lie either. harries can’t comprehend why harry would ever participate in PR when the reasoning is simple - more money, more publicity.

they seem to forget that he has been in the industry for years, same with olivia. they’re not newbies, they know what to do in order to gain more publicity. they know how the industry works. they know how to attract the GP. he knows his fans.

and like you said, harries have put him on a throne. they see him differently than other celebrities. they think that he’s the most popular, precious celebrity in the world. i’m going to be honest, i used to be one of those harries. i used to think “Oh, harry would never do PR. he’s too good for that,” until i realized that this throne he is on is just a fake image that harries have in their heads.

truth is, he’s just as fame and money as every other celebrity. there’s nothing wrong with that either, like i guarantee if any harrie were in that position, they too would participate in PR. it’s easy money. easy publicity. they act like he’s apart of some mafia business deal or something awful. when you come to the conclusion that PR relationships are a thing and harry is a business man now, this will all make sense.

and you’re right, not many people know of him. going back to my sister-in-law, she’s the same age as harry yet has never listened to his songs, never listened to one direction, and she barely knows who he is. the first thing she heard about in regards to harry was the holivia engagement rumor after the yacht gate.

harry isn’t as popular and well known as harries make him out to be, believe it or not. he may be successful, he may be rich, he may be thriving but that doesn’t completely exclude the idea that he could do PR to help him achieve more for his career and reach that broader audience. same with her. and it’s working. i think they also seem to forget that there’s literally a movie that both olivia and harry are in. 😭

there’s a lot that comes from doing PR, and the pros outweigh the cons. as much as harries refuse to admit it, business is business and harry will do anything to benefit his career. he’s not any different than the average celeb. he’s not wrong for doing PR either, i’d do it too if it meant more money and publicity. it doesn’t make anyone look “cheap” or “bad.” they think harry doing PR is worse than him having an affair with an engaged woman like…. that logic doesn’t make sense.

[omgitsemilyward]

hey, yours is one of the best/most reasonable reactions I've seen to the interview. the harsh judgement on his new relationship/ pregnancy was very upsetting for me to read, as if they were a betrayal to what people knew him as? I wish more people grasped we don't know these people. we don't know why they make the decisions they do. the whole thing had me thinking on the 'parasocial' relationships people form with celebs really.

anyway, I'm just so glad he got help when he needed it most, and that it seems like he has very good friends who care about him. I hope he continues to be well. your post on it gave me a good opportunity to sort my feelings over it :)

Hi there - thanks for this message. I’ve already gotten some interesting messages about this and I like this one best and so I’m going to use this as an opportunity to share my (relatively) meaningless thoughts on all this, and this is probably going to be the only post I make about this so… here we go

I’ve purposefully not been making posts about this stuff for a number of reasons, but primarily because I think a lot of people have presumed to know exactly what happened between him, his wife, and Olivia based on a feeble timeline that people have tried to piece together based on random entertainment press reports and stuff. I think there is an incredible amount of information we simply don’t know because we do not know any of them personally, and so I’ve never felt very comfortable saying anything about it. I’m definitely not saying anyone is in the right or in the wrong here either bc, once again, how can we say when we don’t know almost anything?

plus - who am I to even have an opinion on these people I don’t know? I should probably just leave this post right here, because that’s really my entire thesis with this.

(but I, like the person who sent me this nice message, kinda want to use this as an opportunity to share my thoughts and feelings)

I think a lot of us (myself definitely included - anyone who has followed me for a long time knows this) put him and Anna on a pedestal based on all we knew about them, which was very, very little. So as soon as there was the smallest amount of information that things weren’t as perfect as they seemed, people took it almost personally - that they didn’t match the image they had latched onto -, and then made a lot of assumptions and a lot of judgment about what happened; again, based on the tiniest amount of information. Plus, I do think the internet amplifies these things in a weird way that does away with a lot of nuance and goes to straight to classifying things as a binary: “this person is a perfect cinnamon roll who can do nothing wrong” or “this person is absolute garbage trash” - the thing we all forget though, is that human beings do not exist on some moral binary for the most part.

(Also here I am, talking about this on the internet…. anyways)

I spent a lot of my years on this specific website being uncomfortably attached to John and Anna and their relationship, and it’s not something I’m particularly proud of. I don’t say I completely regret being such a huge fan of his, hers, theirs (for one thing, it kinda got me my job, but that’s another story for another time), but looking back on it I wish I had not been so invested in the relationship of people I didn’t know. It was really weird and without my own personal life experience, I might have also immediately jumped to a lot of judgment about why or how their relationship ended. But between now and then I’ve grown a lot as a person and I know that people, especially public figures, often live much more complicated lives than what they present to the world. And people get divorced allllll the fucking time for allllll sorts of reasons.

Maybe it’s the child of many divorces in me, but I’ve been honestly pretty shocked by how little grace people are giving them. Maybe it’s also the fact that I’ve been such a big fan of each of these people (including Olivia) for so much of my life that I’m quick to be defensive (? Idk if that’s the right word) of all of them before anything.

At the end of the day, I guess I’m just disappointed that there is even “discourse” about this to begin with - not surprised by any means, but just disappointed. And disappointed about how quick people have been to judge, or how people are try to equate this to things that are not at all equivalent.

the most important thing to me out of all of this is that John is on a path to recovery. I’ve dealt with some addiction stuff with some of my family that I’m not going to get into on here but it is hard and at times a little terrifying and I’m just so relieved that he seems to have a really good support system. That’s the thing I’ve been most concerned about since the news broke that he relapsed and was going into rehab - I’m grateful that he was able to get help because not everyone does or not everyone will before it becomes too late to do so.

[annavysoul]

I can confirm, they introduced themselves as 3 readers and they made a post how Bee is leaving and starting their own channel. They even made a post to support it and linked the blog, that's how I knew of the Bee drama. But yknow whatever. But they shouldn't demonize those poor future apouses lmao, it's not gonna be them, or any of us.

Warning very long, I got carried away my bad lol

But the drama on tumblr is kinda mild conpared to Youtube "readers". At least the readers here on tumblr try to hide the fact, that they're describing themselves very well but yoooooooo.... Youtube readers are a different breed. Most of them are super young (12-13, but there are a handful of readers old enough to fucking know better) and just straight up describe themselves with no shame. I even found some who put pics of themselves lmao. Me and my friends like to go through readings and bet, who is describing themselves as a spouse. There is one reader who has over 30+ vids on Mrs. J, and most readings are like over 20 mins long. How much is there to know about a person, that doesn't exist yet??? But most YT readers are obssessed with the fact, that Mrs. J is from India, what a coincidence that the reader is also from India lmao. I'm not saying BTS wouldn't ever date someone from that country, I'm saying it's impossible to get a specific country, age, height, religion etc from tarot cards. The pics on the cards might give you clues and the cards can say that the person is different from you, but they go into way too much detail. And it's funny because they're always soooo specific for Jungkook and V, but for the other ones....crickets🦗 On one hand it's so sad bc you have these little girls, putting out their private info, looks and secrets for the whole world to see (these vids have thousands of views) and they don't really grasp the consequences of their actions bc yknow, their just children. The internet never forgets. But on the other hand, you have these grown women who, like I said, should know better than these little girls. Not only do they get so defensive if you don't 100% allign with what they said, they are borderline so obsessed of the idea of being a spouse. Like tf??? Bts aren't Gods. They're very attractive celebs, who's purpose is to entertain people with their contents and music (hence the word idol & entertainer), while they do feed into that perfect bf material scheme, it's up to the fan to not actually develop real romantic feelings (a celeb crush and being a stan is something very different). Most are actually fans for very superficial reasons, they just find them attractive, not the music. And if you take the glitz and glamour of fame and money away, Bts are regular human beings, with flaws and issues. Like. The. Rest. Of. Us. They only show you the best side of them, because it's part of the whole idol package. We truly do not know these people, no matter how sincere or authentic they appear on camera. Like so so many were suprised that they wanted to disband a few years ago, bc they couldn't handle the pressure. These readers always believe if they meet/marry them, their life is going to be better and they feel alive again or smth. Most of these readers actually need therapy, I don't mean that in a condescending way. They imagine that their spouse, a celeb they've never met, will be their sole reason for their happiness and only then they are able to fix their issues and unhappiness. That reeks of co-dependency. And even if they'd become couple and be public, then what? A really big big chunk of Armys are actually in love with Bts, no matter if they even know tarot or not (Armys usually claim that only 2% of the fandom are delulus but that's definetly not true🥴). You'd get send d*eath threats, be harrassed, get doxxed, be hated for all eternity, even if you'd decided to break up. Look what happend with Jk and the tattoo artist he only hugged. She lost her job bc Armys were reporting her, some were trashing her workplace, she got threats, her friends got harassed and doxxed and she lost a friend (Jk). Not only that, but people would legit stalk you and try to hurt you, if you were a romatic partner of Bts. Then you also have the tarot side, who'd try to curse youa nd paint you as the evil demon, who is toxic to member xyz. And I don't think you'd want to spend your entire life locked in your house. And I personally could never deal with like millions of haters, no matter how hot my partner is.

Yoooo! i search again in yt and watch a couple of videos... these are kids for go sake🥺🥺 where are their parents and why they let them public private infoooo?!? internet and children isnt the best combination...

and yess, theres also grown up women and thats really creepy, u can understand that children might do that cause they are young, BUT WHEN U ARE OLD ENOUGH, U SHOULD ACT BETTER!! and i insist, they just trying to prove to themselves and to the world that they are worth it to be with a celebrity, like yeah of course u are worthy, like any of us, but this is not the way u know? its weird, i dont think its sane at all, they just are using the cards to feel better, and thats bs. and if it is just a cope mecanism, plz work on yourself, get help, life its better when u are in a healthy place

also its interesting about mrs being from india and most of all the videos i watch where from indian armys, tarot doesnt work like that, yeah u can feel the energy that its different, perhaps different culture and think that maybe it could be a foreing, but the cards will never tell you something that specific, less if u dont even know in person the people you are reading for

we dont know them at all, and people put them in a such high pedestal just for being famous and hot, so i really have trouble to think that some tarot readers can pick their real energy, im a very intuitive person, but i need to be in the presence of the person to feel their real energy, so to be so specific in a reading they need to energise the cards with the energy of the person, they need to at least shuffle the cards and connect with the reader, sooo thats why i only see these reads as enterteiment, and its bad for the community to claim that we can see ALL of about them.

i'll never forgive the people who threaten the tattoo artist, poor girl, and thats why the guys cant have healthiest relationship, let them have a LIFE

[theopinionoftheredheads]

Why is it the first go to that fans are only upset because they’re jealous? // because it's the easiest way for them to rationalize why other fans are bothered and disappointed by a celeb getting involved in problematic relationships. They don't want to admit their fave is flawed (quite flawed in Chris's case) so they write off the disappointed fans as "jealous." FWIW I've never wanted to date Chris either. I like the guy (less so now tbh, my view of him has been permanently damaged) but come on, he's a walking red flag. Always has been imo. He's friend and fling material, not boyfriend/husband material. //

This! I completely agree. There's no jealousy in our feelings at all. You can like a celebrity and be 100% critical of them too, I like Chris (less so now to be honest) along with other male celebrities, it doesn't mean I'm jealous if they are in a relationship. Fans need to realise that sometimes it's unhealthy to put a celebrity on a pedestal and worship them, as its even more disappointing when they do screw up and find out they're not the perfect wholesome individual they thought they were. I can imagine Chris is a man you could have a few drinks and a laugh with but a relationship...the expression hell can freeze over before that happens comes to mind. The man is as others have stated, a walking red flag. I doubt he has it in him to commit to anyone and if he does enter a relationship I sense he gets bored easily, or doesn't like it when things start getting more serious and the hard work starts.

I think that man is way past the point where he could settle down, or if he does it won't be for another 10 plus years. He lacks emotional and mental maturity at the moment, as you can tell by him hopping into bed with any young female that takes his fancy.

👍

Ginger