#toukichirou

[odaclan]

Here's a very interesting thing from one of the Nobunaga-related history tour guides Aichi prefecture once published (I’m not sure if these has since gone obsolete/removed from circulation).

In the landmark labelled Koumyouji 光明寺 (which I outlined in blue), it says that “Nobunaga and Hideyoshi learned penmanship here”. The Hideyoshi part was rather well-known in Japanese legend. In the various Hideyoshi tales, he was described as having been sent to Koumyouji to study as a child, only for him to cause so much trouble that the temple kicked him out. Not so much  so about Nobunaga also having been sent there to study as well.

I have no idea where this legend came from either, as this is the only place where I’ve seen such a claim being made thus far. The only other remarks about it that I’ve seen online are blog posts made by people who visited the site based on this exact same guide.

A little ways away from Koumyouji is Ryou’unji 凌雲寺 (which I marked in black), another site also labelled as a place where Nobunaga had studied his penmanship. In Ryou’unji’s case, this story about Nobunaga is something that the temple itself declared on its precincts, and it’s also something that does make sense, as the temple was established by Nobunaga’s uncle. See the signboard below: 

I’d wondered if maybe there’s some mix-up about the temples because Koumyouji is located close to an Oda-relevant site, but both temples’ current location are only established in the Meiji era. I don’t know where their original locations are, or whether there are other temples nearby that could potentially cause the confusion. 

It’s a curious claim, though, and as one of the bloggers pointed out: If these legends/claims are true, does this mean that Nobunaga and Hideyoshi might have already met or known each other in childhood? If so, did this establish some kind of trust between them, that later allowed Hideyoshi to rise through the ranks as fast as he did once he formally entered service under Nobunaga? 

[daeva-agas]

「Ikesen Historivia] Adult men can and will get stuck with their childhood name, sometimes

This is Ikesen-verse so it's fine, and it's for fluff's sake, but actually... in reality a number of Sengoku people had to go by their childhood names even after they get their adult names.

The thing about the Sengoku is, you can't actually call people by their names straight. You can't call Nobunaga with "Nobunaga-sama", that's rude and maybe your life might go bye bye because of it. You have to use "alias names".

(you can apparently use the name in letters, or if the person has a high enough title to be addressed with -kou suffix, but most of the time you don't use personal names like "Nobunaga" straight)

You know, if you play SLBP you'll see Yukimura sometimes introduce himself as "Sanada Genjirou Yukimura". "Genjirou" is the alias name, and in real life that's what you should call him by, not "Yukimura".

The problem is, not everyone gets to have that alias name. I actually have no idea why sometimes people do and sometimes they don't, but when they don't get an alias name, the childhood names becomes the "alias".

Mitsunari is an example of this. He still went by his childhood name "Sakichi" even after Honnouji, as accounted by multiple paperwork, even though he definitely already has his adult name then.

Other than childhood names and aliases, people also can be addressed by titles. Motonari as far as I know don't have an alias name, so he could be addressed as Shoujomaru and that should be 100% fine. He did seem have a title pretty early on, though, which is "Tanpi-dono", so people can also address him with this.

But again, like the issue with Kichou's name this is so much technobabble lingo, would be confusing to casual readers if Ikesen had followed the Real Life (TM) rules. Nobody cares except for people who just really like to read about real history.

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Bonus Trivia of aliases: Nobunaga's alias is "Saburou", Hideyoshi is "Toukichirou", Masamune is "Toujirou", Akechi is "Juubei", Shingen is "Tarou", Kenshin is "Heizo", Ieyasu is "Jirousaburou", Yoshimoto is "Hikogorou".

Kanetsugu also doesn't have one, so he goes by his childhood name "Yoroku".

Keiji is... just Keiji, because that is the "alias name". Some people are more famously known by their alias instead of their actual name. Sometimes written as Keijirou. He also supposedly went by "Soubei" (referenced in Ikesen's Second Prologue). His personal name is a bit unclear, but most texts usually refer to him by Toshimasu or Toshisada.

Ranmaru is "Ranhoushi", or sometimes just "Ran" for short. His personal name is Naritoshi.

Kennyo is... also just Kennyo. Monks go by their "ordained name". Kennyo's personal name is Kousa.

[ladygwyndolin]

You're clearly a great fan of Murcielago's villain protagonists, but what are your opinions on the antagonists?

well you can't send me an ask like this an expect me not to rate each of them individually, but i assume you knew this. crafty, glasses! I'm gonna rate the primaries here but I'll rate the secondaries next. Only up to Silver Scent.

Arc 0: Unnamed Serial Killer

Cringe loser, no swag, no style, unmemorable, no standards. Died in an accident. 0/5.

Arc 1: Tasuku Iimura

Just kind of a big brute, somewhat sad backstory but doesn't really bring anything to the table. This arc isn't really about him though. 1/5.

Arc 2: Hyoue Satori

Total patsy. Basically irrelevant as his only real contribution was bankrolling a cooler, sexier villain. 1/5.

Arc 3: Takeru Asagi

We're starting to get somewhere. He's still fairly meh, but his MO and backstory are way more interesting than the previous villains and his genuine care for his daughter gives him a bit of heart. OFC, he pales in comparison to how amazing a character said daughter is, but I'll give him a point for trying. 2/5.

Arc 4: Gold Marie

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO!!!!!! I LOVE GOLD MARIE. Absolutely horrible and irredeemable monster, twisted in fun and unique ways, tragic backstory, gay, disgusting, and, well. Y'know. She's got. uh. well. Anyway, one of the best in the series, no question. 5/5.

Arc 5: The Rainy Day Killer

Hands down the most terrifying villain in the entire series and it's not even close. I get the creeps just looking at him. It takes a lot to be a monster in a world as monstrous as Murcielago's, but boy oh boy does he do it. Great backstory, too. Gonna give him a 4/5 just because of how SCARY he is.

Arc 6: Marie Misaka

Meh. This arc is more about Kuroko herself being the villain rather than this chick, so she barely gets any screentime and doesn't have much to offer. 2/5 cuz there's some implied gay shit at least.

Arc 7: Toukichirou Higaki

Mostly a vehicle for more interesting side characters. His fighting style is cool, but his ultimate goal of dying in battle doesn't have any real weight to it. Pretty forgettable. 2/5.

Arc 8: Shin Tatewaki

Boring villain from a boring arc. 1/5 cuz i think his scar looks cool.

Arc 9: Cobalt Conrad

A very solid mad scientist archetype. I think his relatively friendly and calm demeanor persisting throughout both arcs he's in is great and I like that he came back as a villain in the first place. His ultimately plan is pretty simple and I feel like more could be done with him, but given that we haven't seen the last of him I think there's a chance we'll get new stuff from him too. 4/5.

Arc 10: Kurono

YEAH BABY YEAH BABY LET'S GO!!!!!!!!! I LOVE KURONO!!!! Cool split personality ghost with probably the best fight in the entire series (due to the fact that Kuroko is hilarious throughout it) and sympathetic motivation make her extremely memorable. A lot of people rank Master Swordsman as their favorite arc, and while it's not my personal pick, scenes with Kurono make me understand exactly why so many people love it. 5/5.

Arc 11: Rose Marie

Best boy with one of the best arcs. I looooove TTDUP and how fucked up it is, and this weird conjoined cannibal queen is what makes it work. The second most unsettling villain after the rainy day killer as well. Easy 6/5, I would love if we got more villains like him in the future.

Arc 12: Comedy Writer

Easily the least threatening major villain and thus one of the least interesting. This is another arc where Kuroko eclipses the actual antagonist by a significant margin, so his only real noteworthy moment is when Kuroko kills the shit out of him. 1/5.

Arc 13: Hazuki Sendou

Gross. Loser. Doesn't deserve Zenpachi. Keep that in your pants, loser. 1/5.

Arc 14: Yuusuke Arima

A deeply tragic and sympathetic villain, and one who we get to know as a person far more than most other villains. Serial killer or not, I just felt really fucking bad for this guy. Not huge on his sudden double evil turn at the very end so I've gotta dock him a point for that, but I'm overall a fan. 3/5.

Arc 15: Mineko and Ayako

Honestly it was tough for me to decide which one of these two was the "main" villain so I ultimately decided to just go with both of them because hey, it's my list. My verdict is that they did literally nothing wrong and should not be held accountable for any crimes whatsoever. 5/5.

Hopefully that answers your question!

[yurimother]

Butch×Butch Yuri Anthology 'Boyish²' English Version Funded on Kickstarter

Yuri doujinshi anthology Boyish² is now seeking funding on Kickstarter for an English release. The anthology was originally funded in Japanese on Campfire over the Summer.

Boyish² features 10 different stories by Japanese Yuri manga artists focusing on relationships between two butch women. It is approximately 220 pages long and made for audiences 15 and up. The manga has reached $14,000 of its $3,500 goal, reaching its single stretch goal, a printed release, to be released alongside the digital version in January, with general sales ending in March.

Boyish² features cover illustrations by Akizora Sawayaka and stories by:

Hanakage Alt - A Sports Gym RomCOm

Nekobungi Sumire - A post-apocalyptic sci-fi romance

Jackie - High School RomCom

Edakichi - Slice-of-life romance

Nerikomi Toukichirou - Slice-of-life comedy

Chiruda Shimako - Outlaw comedy

noe - comedy

Mirin - comedy and romance

Mint - Romance between a human and mermaid

and the organizer Mitsumi Natsu - Comedy about relatable lesbian experiences.

You can support the project on Kickstarter until December 3.

[kamase-megane]

“In an RPG, the hero goes to buy weapons and armor at the shop to make himself strong enough to beat the boss, right?”

The culprit opens up.

[human-antithesis]

Hermit’s Lair - Human Antithesis https://t.me/Human_Antithesis

Onimusha 2 Orchestra Album - Taro Iwashiro Selection (2003)

Tracklist:

Chapter I Truth of Brave -Onimusha 2 Main Theme- - 06:09

Chapter II Truth of Evil -Nobunaga Oda’s Theme- - 04:39

Chapter III Truth of Resolution -Oyuu of Odani’s Theme-

Chapter IV Truth of Edge -Saiga Magoichi’s Theme-

Chapter V Truth of Loyalty -Ekei Ankokuji’s Theme-

Chapter VI Truth of Lure -Takajo’s Theme-

Chapter VII Truth of Guile

Chapter VIII Truth of Vice -Genma’s Theme-

Chapter IX Truth of Desire -Kotarō Fūma’s Theme-

Chapter X Truth of Cynicism -Toukichirou Kinoshita’s Theme-

Chapter XI Truth of War

Chapter XII Truth of Fate

Chapter XIII Truth of Brave -Warring Mix-

[litreofsun]

COMPLETE FATE SERVANT GENERATOR

Guinevere

Class : Beast Alignment : Lawful Evil

Status

Strength : B+ Endurance : B- Agility : EX Mana : E Luck : D NP : E

Active Skills

1. Innate Wisdom D- 2. Marksmanship A 3. Voyage A-

Passive Skills

1. Cosmo Reactor E+ 2. Independent Action E 3. Counter Hero B

Noble Phantasm

Ascalon B-

Hit-Count

Arts Card : 5 Buster Card : 4 Quick Card : 2

NP Gen : Very High Crit Star Gen : Very High Crit Weight : Medium

Relationships

Master : Twice H. Pieceman Best Friend : Medea Love Interest : Joan Alter Loved By : Brynhild Rival : Toyotomi Hideyoshi (Kinoshita Toukichirou) Nemesis : Dr. Jekyll

[ao3feed-danganronpa]

Marked For Death

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/3iRem50

by Siknakaliux

Brought down after lashings by her schoolmates, Samidare's life is drastically altered as a result.

Feelings of acrimony and revenge are involved.

Words: 2899, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: Dangan Ronpa: Kirigiri, Dangan Ronpa - All Media Types

Rating: Not Rated

Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence

Characters: Samidare Yui, Endou Toukichirou

Additional Tags: Broken Bones, Blood and Gore, Blood and Violence, Bullying, Revenge, temporary prosthetics, Out of Character, Emotional Instability, Duel Noir (Dangan Ronpa Kirigiri)

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/3iRem50

[accidentalphenom]

tagged by: @obdurcte

tagging:  whoever wants to do this! 

Gina

Class: Assassin

Alignment: Chaotic Good

Status

Strength: A

Endurance: B-

Agility: D+

Mana: C-

Luck: A+

NP: D+

Active Skills

1. Human Anatomic Study B

2. Tengu's Art of War E

3. High-Speed Divine Words E+

Passive Skills

1. Counter Hero E

2. Counter Hero C

3. Territory Creation E

Noble Phantasm

Casa Di Logistilla D+

Hit-Count

Arts Card :3

Buster Card :1

Quick Card :3

NP Gen :Abysmal

Crit Star Gen :Low

Crit Weight : Low

Relationships

Master :Emiya Shirou

Best Friend :Toyotomi Hideyoshi (Kinoshita Toukichirou)

Love Interest : Darius III

Loved By : Jack the Ripper

Rival : Gilgamesh

Nemesis :Achilles

[temperedwings]

sengokujidai replied to your post:

ooc; Panda’s back

“LADY MANA AND DEAR NENE DON’T LISTEN TO THEEEEM!!” -your husband toukichirou

“WHAT did you do darling?” her eye twitches, already suspicious. While mundane nods and mouths Blame it on fat man. and whistles acting innocently. 

[odaclan]

Hideyoshi and Sandals, Part 1

(part 2)

A mythbusting investigation today.

I tracked down a copy of the Ehon Taikouki (originally written 1797-1802), which was supposedly the origin of the story of Hideyoshi warming Nobunaga’s sandals in his clothes.

The passage in question is the segment I marked in red, and it says: “Nobunaga took notice [of Hideyoshi’s diligence] and made him a sandal-bearer. When the weather was cold, [Hideyoshi] put the sandals in his bosom to keep them warm, fulfilling a myriad of inclinations.”

Close up of Hideyoshi with the sandals:

Even when presumably “modernised”, the text I’m looking at is still a bit old-fashioned (printed around 1880s), and I might be reading the last part that says “fulfilling a myriad of inclinations” 万思召に叶ひける incorrectly. I wasn’t sure if that was something to do with the sandals, or if that just meant that Hideyoshi was also an errand boy, or if it meant something else.

Edit: After consulting some dictionaries, I’m positive that this means that Hideyoshi was able to do the various things that Nobunaga asked him to do.

After looking around, I read a quote attributed to this book about customs of the Edo period, which says that supposedly sandal bearers warming sandals inside their clothes is just the standard practice that they’re all supposed to do. It was not some kind of special behaviour that was specific to Hideyoshi.

So, assuming the text I was looking at preserved the original narrative, then it’s no wonder that this sandal matter was described with no fanfare at all. Warming the sandals isn’t a big deal, it’s just part of the job. The narrative of Hideyoshi’s attentiveness instead described him diligently taking care of the horses and making their coats gleam (which was what caught Nobunaga’s attention in the first place), and being on standby in the stables to attend to Nobunaga for his daily morning horse-riding.

The version of the story that wrote of a big fuss being made over Hideyoshi’s “thoughtfulness” over the sandals was from the Meishou Genkoroku 名将言行録, written from 1854-1869. However, this book is actually considered a text with low credibility. It’s more of a compilation of fables and legends, rather than a legitimate documentation.

This sandal narrative is even thought to have been “plagiarised” from Sakai Tadakatsu Genkouroku 酒井忠勝言行録. In this text, the story narrates of Tadakatsu standing guard warming the sandals for shogun Iemitsu, who was visiting his page for a tryst every night. When Iemitsu found out, he was deeply touched by Tadakatsu’s concern for him.

Substitute Iemitsu for Nobunaga, Tadakatsu for Hideyoshi, the page for “a lady”, and voilà!

[daeva-agas]

Man, I really want to meet with the historian/linguist/whatever so I can ask all of these stuff, because I don’t know if there’s something in the wording that makes them so sure about why this must mean what it is.

It’s like... in the first place it really feels weird for Hideyoshi’s wife to have even had a conversation about marriage issues with Nobunaga. I can’t even begin to imagine how that’d look like while the wife is face to face with him.

Like, I imagine what makes this sound like it’s something about the wife is because there’s the part at the end that says “As a woman you shouldn’t be jealous (like a god?) and don’t carelessly say things” or something to that effect.

There’s also the passage that was interpreted to mean “you look more beautiful than the last time I saw you.” So the line following it, saying that “it’s outrageous for Toukichirou to say it’s not satisfactory” or whatever is interpreted to say that he’s not been overly happy with the wife.

I know it’s the Occam’s Razor principle to like, sometimes the Obvious meaning is what it means and there’s no need to be convoluted about it, but like... I do want to ask:

Is there something about the “beauty” line that specifically indicates that this is referring to a human being and not the beauty of objects? The part before this is talking about gifts, so I dunno, if the sentence actually doesn’t specify human, is it not possible for the sentence to actually be referring to how the gifts look better than the ones the Hashiba family sent Nobunaga before?

Is it possible that the line saying “You can’t find another [x] that is just as good for a second time” refers to an incredibly rare object? Or, hell, could it be that the entire passage is saying that “Toukichirou keeps saying he himself is not a good enough vassal, but I think he’s a wonderful vassal so he should stop beating himself up, that dumbass”?

Is it possible that “jealousy” refers to being jealous of other families for having offspring, and this really was actually a discussion requesting Nobunaga’s help to arrange for their family to adopt a child? Not because Nene is jealous of concubines? 

Or, since it specifically says “as a woman”, could it be that Nene is complaining that Hideyoshi is constantly out and about doing “things that only men can do”? Like war or politics or that sort and she's protesting to Nobunaga, the liege lord who is giving the orders? Like, I dunno, maybe it’s something to the effect of, “my husband hasn’t been home in 3 years, STOP CONSTANTLY SENDING HIM TO WAR”. 

There’s been examples of interpretations of old texts being fucked up, but people just never bothered to re-examine the text until decades later. There’s this letter that was originally thought to say something about a pink hawk in a circa 1970s analysis, but a recent re-analysis from like 2020 or so says that nah, that just says a “young hawk”, and the old researcher had misread the text.  

[odaclan]

Hideyoshi and Sandals, Part 2

(part 1 here)

I’m looking at how Hideyoshi has a sword in the illustration, despite his non-warrior status. This is apparently because the sandal bearer is a chuugen 中間 “level” of attendant, and in the Edo period, the chuugen attendants is indeed allowed to carry a sword (at least a wakizashi).

The chuugen is explained as being somewhat lower than the soldiers and warriors, but above the menial servants (some articles say that menial workers is what komono 小者 are).

This probably also explains why in the Edo period stories Nobunaga can just pick up Hideyoshi from the side of the road like it’s nothing, while Sengoku contemporary texts seem to suggest that this is very strange even if you take into account Nobunaga’s eccentricities. The chuugen servants apparently can, in fact, just be picked up from the streets like it’s nothing in the Edo period. Or, at least, there was a time that they were.

When the Edo shogunate enacted the sankin-kōtai, the lords had to hire a horde of baggage-carriers to help them pack up and move. In their rush, they hired many random civilians from the towns. These emergency baggage-carriers later became settled as the chuugen servants in the new mansions.

I’m not entirely sure yet if chuugen is a class that already exist before the Edo period. I’m seeing some posts making claims that the chuugen servants can join the battle as ashigaru and make a name for themselves, but I haven’t yet affirmed the accuracy of this. This would require me to look into Edo laws and structure, because the names of the attendant and vassals ranks can mean different things between the eras.

Still, being that the chuugen were apparently allowed swords during the Edo period, writers of the time possibly made their own extrapolations and applied it to the Hideyoshi narrative.

[odaclan]

This year’s NHK Taiga drama is the much-hyped Akechi Mitsuhide feature called「麒麟がくる」Kirin ga Kuru (The Kirin Comes)

Notable Cast: 

Hasegawa Hiroki as Akechi Mitsuhide.

Kimura Fumino as Hiroko (Mitsuhide’s wife)

Sometani Shouta as Oda Nobunaga

Kawaguchi Haruna as Kichou (Nouhime)

Motoki Masahiro as Saitou Dousan

Sasaki Kuranosuke as Toukichirou (Hideyoshi)

Kazama Shunsuke as Tokugawa Ieyasu

(official Twitter)

In Chinese belief, Kirin/Qilin is a mythical beast that heralds “divine will”. Its appearance is accompanied with auspicious signs such as miraculous events, or simply days where nothing seems to go wrong. The word Qilin in ancient China is also used as a metaphor for an outstanding individual. Legends say that a qilin had appeared to Confucius, and it’s then believed that it appears with the arrival a holy man or illustrious ruler.

The「Kirin ga Kuru」title refers to that last part of the legend, where the Qilin’s appearance heralds the coming of a great individual. Does the “great individual” it refer to Mitsuhide himself, or is Mitsuhide the “Kirin”? We will see. As it were, Nobunaga’s 花押 kaou signature is in fact the kanji rin from Kirin.

Pre-release rumours mentions that it will take cues from the material written by amateur historian Akechi Kanzaburou, who is Mitsuhide’s descendant. His works have been rising in popularity in the recent years, and perhaps it’s what inspired NHK to create a Mitsuhide-centric work. Among efforts to argue that Mitsuhide is not a vicious or power-hungry traitor, Kenzaburou also is a proponent of the theory that Nobunaga had ordered Mitsuhide to assassinate Ieyasu. Defying that order, Mitsuhide turned against his lord instead, in the Honnouji incident. It will be interesting how much of Kenzaburou’s theories makes it into the drama.

[odaclan]

I looked at the preview chapters of the Nobunaga Kouteiki manga. It’s currently free until 3rd of July in this website.

I don’t know if “food” is going to be the actual main theme here, or if this is just incidental, but in the first volume Hidetaka threw a tantrum because he doesn’t like the taste of Sengoku food, and then used his modern knowledge to "invent” a soy sauce broth for udon (the udon already exist, he just “invented” the broth).

Because soy sauce is not invented yet, what he used is the leftover liquid from making miso. There is a part of me that somewhat suspected this was trivia borrowed from Nobunaga no Chef, since the protagonist of the series, Ken, also made a point about this exact same thing. However, since this is actually a true fact, I suppose you can’t prove that.

A random Toukichirou also appeared, apparently having been assigned as Hidetaka’s helper.

Normally I would’ve objected to “unreasonably pretty character designs”, but to be entirely fair, Hidetaka was described as being “very fair”, with “pale skin and red lips” (which sounds like a description of Snow White). So the fact that he looks like a little girl, not a boy, is kind of fair game.

There is also a new vassal that was shown, and he’s not named yet from what I can see, but he looks like Niwa Nagahide:

If this is Niwa, he’s a bit too old for the time setting, but well. I don’t know who that is yet... 

[daeva-agas]

All of the Japanese government archives doesn’t have a full digitization of Azuchi Nikki, I’m so sad LOL. Since I have the Japanese Shinchoukouki I figured it’d be easier to navigate since I can pull up my copy and compare the text.  It’s not curly writing so it’s not THAT bad to look at. 

The National Archives’ Twitter occasionally post random pages from the book tho. This is a segment from the botched Asakura invasion. Highlighted is the passage describing Nobunaga leaving “Kinoshita Toukichirou” to be the rear guard at Kanegasaki. 

https://twitter.com/JPNatArchives/status/1335510049037414401?s=20

Azuchi Nikki is the rough draft/pre-publication version/whatever of Shinchoukouki. Curious if this is a copy or if this is actually Gyuuichi’s handwriting. 

Also since he really didn’t mention Akechi being at Kanegasaki, does that mean he really wasn’t there? Or was that a mistake? Or was the OTHER account saying that Akechi was there was the mistake? ‘Cause Gyuuichi did mention Akechi being around in Kyoto, and there’s paperwork proving that Akechi was in the battle.  

^ This part. It says after Nobu successfully returned to Kyoto, “Akechi Juubei and Niwa Gorozaemon” were sent out to on another mission. 

Maybe Akechi really was just a shogunate associate here, that’s why Gyuuichi didn’t bother. Like, if Akechi was in Kanegasaki but as a shogunate associate, then   from the Oda army unit, the only one there would’ve been Hideyoshi and so maybe that’s why Gyuuichi only listed his name.