#unrequited fiddauthor

[a-wirty-opponent]

It’s a little late, but Chapter 6 is up! Happy holidays! 🧡

Chapters: 6/? Fandom: Gravity Falls Rating: Explicit Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Bill Cipher & Ford Pines, Bill Cipher/Ford Pines, Fiddleford H. McGucket & Ford Pines, Fiddleford H McGucket/Ford Pines (Unrequited) Characters: Bill Cipher, Ford Pines, Fiddleford H. McGucket Additional Tags: Angst, Fluff and Angst, Pre-Relationship, Post-Relationship, Pre-Weirdmageddon, Fluff and Smut, My First Fanfic, My First Smut, Mind Control, Mind Manipulation, Possession, Dubious Consent, Doomed Relationship, Triangle Bill Cipher, Smut, bottom!Ford, Praise, Possessed Sex, Bondage, Arms can be ropes right, References to Book: The Book of Bill (Gravity Falls), Memory Erasure Summary:

Stanford Pines has been working with his muse for nearly a year and is burning out hard. The only thing Bill and that hillbilly research assistant of his can agree on is that he needs rest.

...

So long as he could keep IQ and that yokel researcher in the dark a little longer, it wouldn’t matter. The stars could cross someone else when he could conquer galaxies. When they could paint the cosmos red and keep the party going for eternity.

With a sigh, Bill removed his hand from the painting. He turned his gaze to a pile of rocks along the base. He removed the largest to reveal a trove of torn pages and trinkets of memories long deleted. Sixer’s memories that came too close. Bill retrieved the latest scrap of journal from Ford’s pocket.

Where is Euclydia? Where has it gone?

The questions burned to read.

[soapchipss]

I have to start by saying that it could absolutely go either way and which one I prefer is neither here, nor there; and I'm a sucker for queer men listening to love songs between an assumed male and an assumed female. But, God!! Fiddleford falling in deep deep love with this guy and having zero clue what to do about it? Not even speak about it? Sure, sounds like the right idea! I mean, for fuckssake this guy had a wife and kids. Then his former classmate--the genius, the guy he got along with like a house on fire, his first exposure to someone who understood what he was studying for--reaches out and asks him to work on a project with him. The speed in which Fiddleford would've accepted that would be dizzying. So he's here, feeling like he's in college again, working around Ford and spending time with him--even remembering Christmas presents for Ford instead of his wife (which if that's not his subconscious calling him out, I don't know what is). I can imagine Fiddleford listening to the radio and hearing Jessie's girl, and instead of--I don't know--thinking of his wife in some imaginary scenario.. His mind drifts to his lab partner, of all people. Whether or whether not Fiddleford knew about Bill--there's a lot of debate about the inconsistency of that answer, the show and the journal seem to show differently from eachother--he would assume there was someone else. I mean, considering that Bill got to use Ford's body as a vessel when he slept, there were surely many-a-night where Ford fell asleep in the lab and returned in the morning--to even the afternoon. So there's either this imaginary partner Fiddleford frustrates himself with, or--even worse--this cosmic being his lab partner is absolutely infatuated with. A cosmic being that most definitely knows about Fiddleford's jealousy--either way. As for the other perspective--Ford thinking about Fiddleford--it doesn't take up as much of my brain.. I am an unrequited Fiddauthor truther.. With Ford being the one completely oblivious to Fiddleford's infatuation and respect for him. I dunno, feels right! Next time you listen to Jessie's Girl, think about this post for me

jessie’s girl but unrequited fiddauthor, send tweet

[starlittt]

Was Ford ruined, or was he never to be had?

[connect404]

So I saw this tweet earlier Abt the dynamic between Stanford and fiddleford during the partnership and how similar it was to Stanford and bill's dynamic (incoming essay)

AND I COMPLETELY AGREE

As much as I love fiddauthor (or just ford and fiddleford in general) , fiddleford doesn't deserve the type of treatment he got from Ford.

Throughout the entire partnership,ford treated him poorly and only ever cared about him if it was related to the portal. Fiddleford was willing to work with him even though he knew he was being treated poorly,not to mention he didn't know abt bill or his intentions yet (at the time) and still had his suspicions while working with ford. He remembered to give ford a gift (hand-knitted special gloves for him to wear with several failed attempts beforehand AND a snoglobe of the shack) yet forgot to get a gift for his own wife.

He does all this but the second he tells ford that the portal is dangerous and should be destroyed,ford gets angry at him and says he doesn't need him ???

That's not to say ford isn't completely a POS , he does enjoy fiddleford's company and his partnership with him. Ford even gets closure with fiddleford and actually apologizes to him for all the shit he did to him. Ford gets character development for the most part and actually becomes a somewhat decent person. He's terrible but that's what makes him a great character. He does horrible things but also acknowledges he did said things and actively tries to not do that,even if it's hard to avoid it.

(op said he's objectively an awful person for what he did but also loves him anyway because that type of writing is what makes his character compelling and honestly I relate)

It's a shame that ford favours results over sympathy/empathy. He only ever cares people when they are of use to him and when they say something he doesn't wanna hear,he throws them to the side and searches for another.

Another thing Abt ford is that he tends to be stubborn and an egoist. No matter the situation,he always puts himself before others. This can be a good thing sometimes (like when he gets electrocuted instead of just giving bill the equation) but it's always shown in a negative light. Stan dedicated almost his entire life to bring back his brother after several decades and he never even got a thank you or when instead of hearing Stan out on that invention he broke in highschool, he just let his brother get kicked out (Ik the twins are kinda crappy people but Stan breaking ford's perpetual motion machine was an accident damnit. It's been 30+ years and he still won't let it go 😭😭)

DESPITE SAYING ALLAT....ford isn't completely to blame for his behavior and how he treats other people around him to the point of being manipulative. Sure,his main flaws are what make him act this way (insecurity,need to be better than others,doesn't really think of others,etc.) but I think the only reason they've become worse is because of bill and how he manipulated ford,basically feeding into his ego and validating his beliefs. That, combined with his occasional selfish urges makes him want more.

More knowledge.

More praise.

More fame.

And this need for more makes him impatient. So much so that he starts using the same manipulation tactics (whether intentionally or unintentionally I'm not sure) bill used on him on fiddleford to try and get the same results,since said tactics work on him,so it would makes sense for him to do the same.

TL;DR yes,ford is a bad person but he's a bad person with layers and that's why I love him sm. Also fiddleford deserved better treatment

Anyway this'll probably get like 5 likes but uhhhh I'd love to hear any take on this really.

Agree,disagree I'd love it hear it

[reese-rhys]

This AU came to me at 3 am: Cipher Grunkle AU

After the “failed” experiment to see the 3rd dimension (Phil could see. He didn’t want to start it again in fear he’d destroy the world or something), he crashed at his sister’s (Bill’s parent’s) house after quitting his job. Bill’s mom was pregnant at this time.

It was like Phil was irradiated in a sense after the experiment. Caused a “birth defect” in little Billy.

He wasn’t the greatest grunkle. He made Billy feel weird about his mutation. Partially, Phil blames himself for how Bill turned out.

…Timeskip after the Euclidean Massacre:

He survived due to his mutation. He spent years trying to find Bill. Trying to get the atom he took back. He spent years crafting theories on how to get the dimension back, how to at least make the dimension livable again. It didn’t matter everyone was dead, he just wanted to fix the dimension.

He made teams of intelligent people, all which disappointed him. He couldn’t do anything without the atom.

Then he heard of Gravity Falls. Found Fiddleford after the portal incident, learned about Ford and his deal with Bill.

He hates Stanford Pines. Partially it’s because Fiddleford likes him so much, partially it’s because Stanford Pines reminds him of when he was younger and more ruthlessly ambitious.

Then it happened.

They still work together trying to track down Bill. Phil is a little protective of Fiddleford, in his own way.

(Also it’s been years apologies if I got any lore wrong)

[chaotic-goodsir]

Doncha know that where I am

Ain't where I was!

Not for the life of me.

('Weird how I'm not that invested in this character' I say, as I make him a 20 song chronological character-arc playlist.)

[localcanadiancreature62]

LMAOOOO AHAHAHHA LMAO POOR FIDDS. They are fucking roasting him behind his back

A Lifetime Served in a Little Cup

pt.1/ pt.2 / pt.3 / pt.4

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fiddleford found dead in an arby's parking lot

[mushiver]

Fiddauthor in fanon is often doomed toxic unrequited type yaoi, and I DO love some angst, but y'all forget how much Ford loves that guy

"His brilliant mind and amusing quirks have made this task infinitely more enjoyable"

"One of the kindest hearts I've ever seen"

Sorry. From DAY ONE being roommates in college, he ran up to Fiddleford (after he'd been crying and wanting to leave) and was like "I won't sleep until I prove your theory!!"

He was so excited to work with him and be best friends. The adoration is unreal. Fuckass BILL got in his head and turned him against Fiddleford. They were so sweet to each other, and Ford wasn't selfish from the start, but Bill went all Frodo and Gollum on him and Ford screwed up bigtime because of it

"I'm sorry Fiddleford" had been on loop in his head for 30 years, I'm not over that

[rystiel]

shipping chart thoughts

(billford always happens and they always break up. ford was obsessed when bill was his muse, then bill is obsessed after they’re no longer together and he realizes what he lost) (this dynamic is just canon, really)

(fiddauthor is always present at some point but in one route they end up together after canon events, and in another route fidd moves on) (it’s possible that they had a thing in college but consider it “typical college experimentation” because it’s the 70s and denial is strong. they still go through canon events)

(fiddlestan only happens during the fiddlestan route. otherwise canon events stay the same and they barely actually interact with each other. in the fiddlestan route they work together in the 80s and grow old together)

(billstan isn’t really romantic but it is a one-sided obsession. bill just can’t stop obsessing over the stans… for very different reasons…) (dare i say an unrequited kismesis dynamic?)

(ford and stan are brothers. that’s it. leave them out of the shipping dynamics.)

(fiddlebill isn’t really included here but i feel like the only way this would happen is if bill was possessing ford and wanted to fuck with fidd by using his crush on ford against him) (this one’s basically only possible if it’s fiddauthor-adjacent)

[illusioncanthurtme--art]

im curious, why do you like fiddlestan?

i like them in theory (all the pain potential, jeez!) but i feel like i'm missing something very obvious

Oh boy, you’re about to open pandoras box with this one -

I’ve liked fiddlestan for a LONG time, almost a decade now, (EXHIBIT A!!!), and honestly, I’ll admit that the ship is mostly based on speculation. So maybe you’re not missing something obvious, maybe I’m just delusional. I can’t speak for everyone, all I can do is explain why I like it: because it’s deeply rooted in several layers of irony. 

It’s ironic because fiddleford spent the better part of a YEAR dealing with fords nonsense. (And I KNOW, it’s not all bad, but really, especially if you read journal 3, that poor man was put through a LOT. He was definitely taken advantage of, at LEAST a little.) And after grappling with the acceptance that your longtime friend and unrequited love will never return your feelings, having lost the man to some crazy otherworldly nightmare machine, who shows up?? But his TWIN BROTHER who’s HUMBLE and KIND and TEN TIMES MORE DOWN TO EARTH?? It’s ironic, because they don’t know each other, yet they both have years of history with the same person who’s wronged them, and, they can make out about it!! THEY CAN FUCK TO SPITE HIM!! Stan stole his brothers name (and committed multiple crimes under said name), stole his house, and stole his research partner!! And… it's ironic because it’s Grunkle Stan and old man Mcgucket. That needs no elaboration.

(these are all my personal takes/headcanons! Like I said, this ship is based solely on interpretation, so I’m sure a lot of fiddlestanners like fiddauthor too. There’s like a billion different ways to interpret this ship.)

Also -

Their personalities are surprisingly similar when you stop and think about it!! You put those two in the same room, and they’d come up with some highly devilish scams together. They both have moral codes that are a little… ambiguous. And… I can’t believe I’m gonna pull this out as *canon fiddlestan documentation* but these are the kind of crumbs we’re working with here: MABELS DREAM IN THE SOCK OPERA CREDITS!!!! Although it’s not something that actually happened, and it’s just a reference to statler and waldorf, they are IN CHARACTER!! I think this is how they would actually act together if they were friends!! Just two old dudes, hanging out together watching tv, making fun of whatever they’re watching. If you’re in the room, you might get roasted too. Just a couple of old farts. It makes me so happy to think about. 

No fiddlestan rundown post would be complete without the fandoms EXTREME STRAW GRASP at Old Goldie and the Flame Retardant Raccoon. Soos calls mcgucket a “prospector guy,” amongst the other obvious comparisons you can make between fiddleford and goldie. Goldie is something stan used to like a long time ago, but he’s all old and fucked up now, best to throw him away and forget about it. BUT, as it turns out, there’s still good in that old thing after all. SO LETS GET MARRIED IN VEGAS!!!! It’s an extreme stretch, but… It’s a fiddlestan trope that they, at some point, have a crazy night of fun+romance in vegas together.  And I personally like to think that they return when they’re older+happy and tie the knot for reals. The raccoon speaks for itself - it’s one of the ways you can compare stan to a raccoon. And of course, mcgucket's raccoon wife. 

This is where it starts to get a little angsty, and if you “get all the pain potential” then you may have already given this some thought - but why does stan treat fiddleford the way he does if they used to love each other? The whole “UGH, this guy” comment in land before swine, looking all uncomfortable around him in fight fighters, choosing the spot furthest from where mcgucket lotions himself at the pool, and the “possum breath” comment in the last episode (and fiddleford actually has the mental clarity to look perturbed after he says it). Stan is hurt!!! He’s upset!! If they used to be a Thing after the portal incident, something must have happened between them for fiddlefords mental illness to get the better of him, and for him to choose to erase both stan and ford from his memories. I, personally, think that it was deep rooted internal homophobia (being raised in the south, that runs deep), and being scared for getting too close to stan. They were getting too comfortable, and that scared him. What about his family? And tate? His son can never meet stan. He can never let his wife know. And all the paranormal fuckery incidents leading up to this that already weakened his mental state, the portal incident, already having zapped his brain a few times, would have sent him over the edge. So I’m thinking they would have gotten into a fight of some kind, and fiddleford would have stormed off. Thus leaving stan having to live in a town with the person he USED to love, who doesn’t remember him at all!!! What!!!!! That sucks!!!! Only upside to fiddlefords memory erasure is that it makes it easier for stan to pretend nothing ever happened. But it’s still not easy. Also, if word ever got out that old man mcgucket used to be his boyfriend, he would never be able to live it down. So he compensates by being an ass towards him. Fuck. 

But then!! If fiddleford has the chance to heal!!! (say… maybe… when the twins are on the stan o war II) then stan would come back to gravity falls and see fiddleford looking like the person he knew thirty years ago!!!! WHAT!?!?! CAN’T RUN FROM YOUR PAST FOREVER, CAN YOU!?!?! And you KNOW fiddleford would remember what happened with stan. How long can stan keep himself in denial?? And now we’re opening up the can of worms: how the FUCK does this information reach ford?? That your brother used to canoodle with your research partner and might STILL BE?? That has so much potential too. 

Ok I wasn’t expecting to write those last two paragraphs but it’s A BIG PART OF WHY I LOVE FIDDLESTAN!!! It’s a crazy fucking rollercoaster ride!!! This thing has so many angles!!! And that’s just MY fiddlestan interpretation - I’ve seen a lot of different takes on the sort of story that would transpire between these two. But no matter what you’re cooking, It’s always a LOT. 

There’s probably so so much I didn’t touch on here. If anyone else wants to throw in their two cents as to why they like fiddlestan, please, add something!!!

[stanleypining]

Okay listen I'm not really super invested in the shipping side of the gravity falls fandom, but I think there's a LOT of unfulfilled potential for either a fiddauthor or fiddlestan Hanahaki fic (my brain immediately goes to fiddlestan bc I obviously love Stanley but I think you could make either work)

Gravity Falls is a town of weirdness, of the strange and the unexplained, so having a mysterious new ailment pop up where Stanley is suddenly coughing up flowers is not even close to outside the realm of possibility. Is it a curse? Is it something he ate? You could have it be a mystery trio fic and have Ford research it and discover, surprise! It's Hanahaki Disease, caused by unrequited romantic feelings. Makes sense, because Stanley's into Fidds, and he's certain Fidds is into Ford. Too bad the only cure is to confess and have your feelings be returned, because Stanley knows that's impossible.

When he relays this, Ford and Fidds start desperately searching for an alternative solution, which is when Fiddleford invents The Memory Gun! You can't have a disease kill you because of unrequited romantic feelings for someone if you forget you have those feelings!

I think Gravity Falls and Hanahaki go so well together BECAUSE two of the main components of Hanahaki (magic and memory loss) are already two of the main components in GF. I don't think I've ever seen anyone explore this yet, but I think you could really do a lot with it.

[gamzee-simp492]

I’m gonna add onto my last post about transmasc!Dipper in relativity falls because the idea won’t get out of my head. Also yes you’re free to do art or fanfics of this, it’s not exclusive to me to use. But I DO wanna be tagged in any posts of it, just to see where my idea was taken /nf

NONE OF THESE ARE NECESSARY, ITS JUST MY TAKE ON THE IDEA!! YOU CAN CHANGE, ADD, OR EXCLUDE ANY IF YOU WRITE OR DRAW THIS!

So - only for reference purposes - I’m thinking the deadname would probably be something that also starts with a “May” sound. Maybe Mavis or something like that so that’s how Mabel would get away with being called “Grauntie May” cause “May” is the shared part of the name. And - of course - his chosen name would be Mason.

The RF! Version of bill ((different people have different versions of bill here, so whatever that is)) would call him Dipper, and it would also be his nickname from childhood with Mabel before transitioning. Also in my take on it, the Bill from this AU could be that smile dog Mabel saw from the Smile Dip. And then maybe Bill would be seen in that scene with Relativity Falls.

His journals would have the star birthmark and he’d call himself M. in the book. I also think the whole thing with Pacifica being McGucket would work and he’d address her in the book as Paz or just P.

Some ideas I have for lost pages of the journal would be him talking about his gender and the dysphoria, a few about Pacifica ((pre-portal doomed (as in unrequited) FiddAuthor swap)) and how she helped him transition secretly cause I’d imagine those around him wouldn’t be supportive. Like how Stanford’s parents weren’t very nice to him.

Dipper’s equivalent of that project Stanley broke in high school would probably be something equally simple looking but also equally as ground-breaking. Maybe something that’s sensitive to air quality and Mabel’s yarn ruined it? I need more ideas for that-

They’d have another sibling that’s the relativity falls equivalent of Mabel and Dipper’s grandparents, who then have Stan and Ford’s parents, and then Stan and Ford. Name ideas? I don’t have any lmao

That page on the Dream Hipster ((the one who makes a whole nightmare just for a pun)) would have to do with maybe not being the STAR of the family, or something to do with light or stars maybe? I’d love to see ideas for this.

Aaand that’s all I have. I’d love to see more ideas! And maybe an AU ref sheet? I’m lazy and don’t wanna make it ;-; /nf

[mcgucket-computer-majigs]

oh dear

sorry! sorry- i didnt, mean to drudge up- sweet sarsaparilla

um.. i saw a daffodil once, after ma' first day at BMU.

The LOVE master is here

You should totally give Ford these

Trust me, I'm a pro

...well, since yer' a pro...

@sixupeyeoh i got you flowers...!💐

[yourresidentstanlover]

I can't sleep and I have to get up in less than 4 hours for school n shit, so have some of my thoughts about fiddlestan and fiddauthor.

DISCLAIMER: I have not read the entirety of The Book of Bill, or Journal 3. I've only seen snippets online. I want to get them both, tho. I'll get my hands on em once it gets less cold and icy around here.

Sooo fiddlestan. I like it, and it has a loooot of potential for angst. HOWEVER, I don't like when people villainize Ford just to make Fidds get with Stan. I do think that Ford cares deeply about Fiddleford, he just doesn't really know how to express it, and is entirely oblivious to any feelings Fiddleford may have for him (c'mon man, he left his wife and kids to study weird shit in the woods with you).

Now for Stan with Fiddleford, I don't really see that relationship lasting, at least not healthily (is that an actual word?? Whatever, you know what I'm sayin). If going the angsty route, I think Fidds would at first try to replace Ford with Stanley in an attempt to regain the man he lost. And Stanley would be open to the affection Fidds gives him cause he's touch-starved, and I don't think anyone's said "I love you" to him for a minimum of ten years. But Fiddleford would realize that Stan isn't Ford, no matter how much he tries to delude himself into thinking he is. And Stan would realize that Fidds just isn't his type or somethin.

Ok now fiddauthor. I love this so much, both when Stanford and Fiddleford are young and when they're old (people are sleeping on that old man yaoi!!). I also headcanon Ford as asexual. I looooveee the thought of fiddauthor in the 70s while they were in college, breaking up for whatever reason (or just kinda drifting apart if it wasn't a committed relationship or whatever), and Ford's lil heart breaking when Fidds marries Emma May.

Alternatively, I do kinda like the thought of a poly relationship between Fiddleford, Emma May, and Stanford. That would be a fun au to make a comic about. I have been wanting to make an Emma May design for a bit now lol.

But when they're older and working in Gravity Falls, oh god sooo much angsty potential with infidelity and unrequited feelingsss (technically they're both in love with each other, but neither are good at ✨️ communication ✨️). Ford would probably be so absorbed with Bill, and listening to his manipulations to actually recognize Fiddleford's feelings for him.

And when they're old ass men? Ugh so much fluff can happen from them finally making up for lost time or somethin. People really sleep on the true old man yaoi lmao.

On a slightly separate note, I do ship Billford, and I have thoughts about it that I'm not gonna get into here. But I'll give ya the abridged version: I like shipping it, I don't like romanticizing it, and i like seeing how the relationship had a lasting effect on Ford. I don't like shipping them post-weirdmageddon, and i don't think Bill can truly be redeemed. I have mixed feelings on those redemption au's. I also like triangle fucking jokes. I'm sorry but that is comedy gold.

Also I'm gonna (eventually) make a post talking about my oc x canon ship (Kyle x Stanley). I personally love them (obviously), they're two gay old criminals who have shockingly similar pasts. What's not to love? Also it's a fun way to explore writing older characters with different body types, since before, most of the characters i drew were young twinks, beefed up guys/girls, and skinnier women. Drawing these old men has really helped with diversifying the body types I draw.

Alright, ramble over. Goodnight everyone.

(Also while writing this, I broke into a coughing fit. I hope i didn't catch my dad's cold lmao. God is trying to stop me from talking about yaoi, but dammit, I can't be stopped >:3)

[messy-di-voce]

Consistent art style who? Don’t worry about it.

Messing around with some Fiddauthor angst except it’s Ford who’s love is unrequited

[jingledbells]

btw if u think fiddauthors unrequited you and I are not the same