#vincentio

[kultofathena]

LK Chen - Vincentio – Italian Seven Ring Hilt Rapier

“Vincentio”  is a recreation of a beautiful 17th century Italian Seven Rings rapier inspired by rapier specimens in the fine collection of the New York Metropolitan Museum of Arts and other collections.  Named after the famous Italian fencing master Vincentio Saviolo, Vincentio is a rapier optimized for thrusting and despite its long reach the blade is quite easy to point and control the tip for a decisive strike. This is another exacting recreation that LK Chen has taken on and with valuable input from experts in the details of the seven ring complex hilt and the construction such as the braiding of the elaborate “Turkish  head” wire knots in the hilt.

The well-tempered blade is crafted from GB 60Si2MnA high carbon steel and it is mounted into a complex and finely decorated seven ring hilt of stainless steel. The grip is bound in stainless steel wire which is surmounted by braided “Turkish head” knots. The sword is matched with a wooden scabbard which is overlaid in black leather and completed with a locket and chape of stainless steel.

[infinitelytheheartexpands]

also feel free to put your reasoning below in comments or tags

edit: okay who else hit my special button *joking*

[bethanydelleman]

Cracking up reading Measure for Measure:

DUKE VINCENTIO (in disguise): I never heard the absent duke much detected for women; he was not inclined that way. (Translation: I never heard the duke was a manwhore)

LUCIO: O, sir, you are deceived.

DUKE VINCENTIO: 'Tis not possible. (Because I AM THE FREAKING DUKE!)

....

LUCIO: Sir, I know him, and I love him.

DUKE VINCENTIO: Love talks with better knowledge, and knowledge with dearer love.

LUCIO: Come, sir, I know what I know.

Act III, Scene II

Lucio, insisting that he knows the Duke's secrets right to the Duke's face and being dead wrong as part of the bargain. Just perfection.

[britneyshakespeare]

The gaslighting Duke of Vienna

[suits-of-woe]

i always forget lucio measureformeasure is one of the most unlikable bitches in shakespeare's canon. in my head i'm like "oh the funny little slut" and then i remember that he's actively gross and callous to like literally everyone around him

[lindahall]

Grégoire de Saint-Vincent – Scientist of the Day

Grégoire de Saint-Vincent, a Flemish Jesuit mathematician, died June 5, 1667, at the age of 82.

Learn more

[withasideofshakespeare]

I’m a little late, but… trick or treat?

“She speaks, and ‘tis such sense that my sense breeds with it.” It continues to melt me a little, even amid the fervent analysis, every time I read it.

Here’s a great line from Measure for Measure (and for good measure—hehe!—a similar one from Antony and Cleopatra)

Claudio: “If I must die, I will encounter darkness as a bride, and hug it in mine arms” (III.i.83-5).

And from Antony & Cleo:

Antony: “I will be a bridegroom in my death, and run into’t as to a lover’s bed” (IV.xiv.99-101).

The similarity of these lines is almost certainly unintentional, but it really makes it hit just how tragic Measure for Measure is! Although it’s sometimes classed as a comedy (or at least a problem play), it’s themes are shockingly tragic: death, coping with mortality, and oppression. We can easily believe that if it weren’t for the Duke, everyone in Measure for Measure would’ve ended up dead or otherwise miserable and alone. The Duke, despite not seeming to possess the “comedic attitude” that love and togetherness are what makes life worth living (he’s really quite isolated himself!) seems to steer the plot away from tragedy. I almost wonder if his proposal is less about Isabella and more an admission that no man is an island? Does he come to realize he needs company? Does she? I think this play will forever be an enigma to me and I love it all the more for that reason.

[miss-atropine]

Local shadyman looks shady in the shadows 🕶️

[storyofmorewhoa]

[Vincentio's] final proposal to Isabella – this problem play's most famous "problem" – become more about him needing to play dress-up once again; ultimately, he deceives himself most of all.

J. Kelly Nestruck, reviewing Martha Henry’s 2013 production of Measure for Measure

[unanimouslalablah]

Pantalone family, 1949

Vincentio and Francisca were hard workers, who really didn't like getting involved in drama, so they wanted to focus on their multifaceted daughter Isabella, who always thrived in pageants and talent shows.

[cabbage20122]

Taming of the Shrew is so funny, like there's a story inside of another story, half of the characters in both are disguised as someone else, and the only character who actually gets everything he wants in the end does it by being as annoying as he possibly can.

Hortensio: I can't marry Bianca until someone marries her older sister, but I wouldn't wish that girl on any- hey Petruccio you said you wanted to marry rich, right?

Petruccio: Your daughter is definitely in love with me, she's just pretending to hate me in front of other people because she's shy. Can we get married?

Baptista: How sweet! Absolutely

Katherine, standing right next to him: the audacity-

Katherine: sister bonding~ tell me who you have a crush on!

Bianca, crying: please untie me

Lucentio: I'm not actually a tutor, I switched places with my servant to woo you in secret

Bianca: Good start, but you call this wooing? You can do better

There's some old guy named Gremio who also wants to marry Bianca but he doesn't really do much

The wedding is not shown, but apparently Petruccio shows up hours late dressed in the most ridiculous articles of clothing he could find (and all of them are clashing) and riding a horse riddled with every disease under the sun (intestinal worms, tumors, a stuffy nose, etc.) punched the priest, and threw wine in his face because his beard was so thin it looked hungry.

On the way to his house, Katherine's horse falls in the mud and somehow lands on top of Katherine

Grumio, shivering: hey I've been sent to make sure the house is ready. Also can you light a fire?

Curtis: are they coming to the house now?

Grumio: yes, now about that fire

Curtis: is she as rude as they say?

Grumio: please I'm so cold

Curtis: i want gossip

Katherine, sleep-deprived and starving: can I have some food?

Grumio: sure would you like some beef and mustard?

Katherine: yes, that sounds great!

Grumio: ah, but the mustard might make your stomach hurt

Katherine: that's OK, I'll just have beef

Grumio: well, I can't just give you beef without mustard. . .

Katherine: just give me something I don't care

Grumio: would you like just mustard

Katherine, hangry: would you like to die

Petruccio: this dress is horrible, I didn't order this!

Tailor: your servant gave me instructions on how to make it, I just followed those

Grumio: ok but I didn't instruct you to make it ugly

Lucentio, conning a foreigner into pretending to be his dad so he and Bianca's dad can discuss the marriage between Bianca and the servant pretending to be Lucentio: I'm such a genius this plan can't possibly go wrong

Lucentio's actual dad: I think I'll go visit my son

Petruccio: it's 7 am, so if we leave now, we'll get to your father's house at lunchtime

Katherine: it's 2 pm, we won't get there til supper

Petruccio: do you have to disagree with everything i say? Maybe we won't go

Katherine: wait no I want lunch-

Lucentio: hi dad, meet my new wife!

Vincentio: . . .

Lucentio: Ok I'm sorry I got you arrested for impersonating yourself but in my defense-

Petruccio: wow, the moon is so bright

Katherine: it's the middle of the day, that's the sun

Petruccio: again with the arguing? Let's go back

Hortensio: are you kidding me we walked all this way

Katherine: WOW, LOOK AT THE MOON

When they finally get to the house for dinner, Katherine and Petruccio win a bet against the other couples and brag about how they're better than everyone there.

And the whole thing is just an elaborate prank on some random drunk guy WHO IS NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN AFTER ACT 1

[kultofathena]

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✨ Check out this incredible recreation of a 17th-century Italian Seven Rings rapier “Vincentio”! by LK Chen.

🤺 Inspired by rapier specimens in renowned collections like the New York Metropolitan Museum of Arts, this masterpiece pays homage to the famous Italian fencing master Vincentio Saviolo.

With its long reach and exceptional control, this rapier allows for precise strikes that can turn the tide of any duel. ⚔️

✨ Prepare to be mesmerized by the elegance and power of Vincentio!

[infinitelytheheartexpands]

alright antony and cleopatra let’s get it

part ONE! (which is just until wherever the intermission break is)

-choreographed prologue??? 👀

-TECHNO PROLOGUE!!! low key this is such a vibe

-“my boss is a manwhore”

-just let them have bed wrestling fights!

-ANTONY BYRNE??? DUKE VINCENTIO ANTONY BYRNE??? yaaaaaaaaaay

-i love them both already

-seriously they are such an amazing vibe

-the way he covers his face with a pillow when she teases him for blushing omg

-they are just so utterly besotted and it’s making me so happy

-ooh boy we have another soothsayer

-this has the same energy as the carmen card trio

-wait i feel like this actor playing one of the ladies in waiting was in troilus and cressida (edit: yes! it’s amber james! aka cressida and now charmian!)

-cleopatra fully just said “i’m out i’m not talking to him right now” lol

-well that just happened (fulvia is dead!)

-somebody give antony a hug pls

-enobarbus what are you doing

-“I CAN’T DO THE HONEYMOON PHASE ANYMORE”

-she is just so. utterly. brilliant. and. so. MUCH. and i love it

-“eternity was in our lips and eyes”

-oh wait this is the scene from this play they did at [area shakespeare company’s] founder’s retirement party

-their energy is so much and i love it

-“Sir, you and I must part, but that’s not it/Sir, you and I have loved, but there’s not it…”

-soundtrack continues to pop off

-octavius: insecure about masculinity

-octavius wants to cancel antony and lepidus isn’t so sure

-YAAAAAAAY PIRATES OF PLOT CONVENIENCE! (okay maybe just plot spice but whatever)

-okay we fully just skipped a scene i guess (from the few lines i skimmed it looks like “cleopatra and her girls do edibles”)

-okay so pompey is collaborating with Pirates Of Plot Spice TM?

-“okay so how do we get the boys to start fightingggggg”

-okay we’re jumping back to cleopatra and her girls doing edibles

-love the music and love the mardian dude

-“where’s my serpent of old Nile?…now i feed myself with most delicious poison” so uh. about that.

-‘you’re not mark antony’ lolol

-not sad or merry but a secret third thing

-‘charmian that was LAST play’

-the boys are fightingggggggg

-‘i didn’t say i wouldn’t, i just didn’t do it’ mood

-“That truth should be silent I had almost forgot.” OOOOOOOOH

-oh this is definitely a great idea /s

-oh hey it’s the barge speech!

-he’s just a boy who cain’t say no!

-“Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale/Her infinite variety.”

-sleepover at agrippa’s!

-LUCY PHELPS OCTAVIA??? (so the duke and isabella did get married in an alternate universe then)

-“i will definitely, 100%, not cheat on you” yeah it’s act two i’m not putting it past you

-no one ever listens to the soothsayer

-FUCKIN CALLED IT

-“Give me some music—music, moody food/Of us that trade in love.” 🤝 “if music be the food of love, play on”

-y’know, iras is so Not Even In This Play

-she is a QUEEN

-“But sirrah, mark, we use/To say the dead are well.” ross over in scotland, about to tell macduff his family is dead: *shuffles uncomfortably*

-i love their banter

-“you did NOT just say octavia was better at banging than me”

-oh she’s straight up beating him up

-“PLEASE DON’T SHOOT THE MESSENGER”

-she is Going Through It

-pompey: *gives very emotional speech*

octavius: …take your time

lmao

-BOAT PARTY

-so enobarbus and menas are besties anyway? i thought they were on opposite sides (which obvs does not prevent bestie relationships but yeah)

-enobarbus knows what’s up

-BOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAT PAAAAAAAARTY

-yeah lepidus words are hard

-menas has a Plan

-octavius: buddy i am Not Getting Drunk Tonight

-PLAY THIS IN THE CLUB

-Many Complicated Emotions Between These Two,

-antony, fully intending to ditch octavia at first opportunity: well this is awkward

-messenger: i can’t fucking believe i still have to work this customer service job even after getting beat up

-scoping out the competition

-uh oh. there are Political Problems

-GO OFF OCTAVIA (also this is just like blanche in king john)

-“The Jove of power make me, most weak, most weak, your reconciler. Wars ’twixt you twain would be As if the world should cleave, and that slain men should solder up the rift.”

-oh octavius is Big Mad

-“YOUR HUSBAND IS CHEATING ON YOU OCTAVIA” “NO I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO STOP FUCKING FIGHTING”

-ooh did octavia just take her ring off 👀

and that’s intermission! this is GREAT and i would continue watching but it is also late and i am tired so…rest tomorrow!

[mywingsareonwheels]

Was watching the RSC Shakespeare Live! (it's on iPlayer and it's great btw) thing again last night, and omggggg. Roger Allam doing one of the speeches from King Lear and breaking my fucking heart yet again in the process.

He STILL hasn't played Lear all the way through. And I think that's partly his own decision (he's talked about not being sure how he'd play the role yet, and how "hard" it is, but he's one of the best Shakespearean actors ever and). I. Aaaaaah.

We need his Lear. We need his Lear so much. I mean, this is an actor who made me feel some compassion for Duke Vincentio, Falstaff, and Prospero, all of whom are kind of dreadful, not by underplaying their nastier qualities, but by playing up their vulnerability and better moments as well. <3 He brings out every nuance possible in every role he plays. His Lear is likely to break us into tiny pieces and WE NEED IT.

(I'm not sure he's even been in Lear as yet!!! If we can't have his Lear then maybe we can at least have his Gloucester or Kent or Fool? Pretty please? Older Fools are a Thing sometimes and he can sing more than beautifully enough, my Gods.)

Anyway. Roger Allam as Lear. Needs to happen. If it's live theatre (which it should be) it needs to be filmed and broadcast everywhere. Needs an awesome rest of the cast, but then there are so many superb Shakespearean actors just now that shouldn't be too tricky. ;-)

[dystopianam]

All the Shakespearean references of Veronaville!

Sims inspired by Romeo & Juliet:

Romeo Monty

Mercutio Monty

Juliette Capp

Tybalt Capp

Patrizio Monty and Consort Capp even if don’t inspired by a specific character are the closest thing to the father figure of both families (so they’re inspired in part by Montague and Capulet)

Sims inspired by A Midsummer Night's Dream:

Titania Summerdream

Oberon Gossamer

Puck Summerdream

Bottom Summerdream

Hermia Capp

Sims inspired by The Tempest:

Sycorax Gale

Prospero Gale

Stephano Arlecchino

Trinculo Arlecchino

Caliban Capp

Miranda Capp

Ariel Capp

Sims inspired by King Lear:

Consort Capp

Goneril Capp

Regan Capp

Kent Capp

Cordelia Capp

Albany Capp

Cornwall Capp

Sims inspired by Henry V/VI:

Hal Capp

Quickley Arlecchino

Eleaonor Anjou

Nym Gossamer

Sims inspired by The Taming of the Shrew:

Bianca Monty

Petruchio Amantes

Katherina Amantes

Sims inspired by The Twelfth Night:

Maria Arlecchino

Olivia Monty

Viola Monty

Sims inspired by Measure for Measure:

Angelo Capitano

Mariana Capitano

Lucio Zanni

Vincentio Pantalone

Francisca Pantalone

Claudio Monty

Isabella Monty

Sims inspired by So Much Ado About Nothing;

Benedick Monty

Beatrice Monty

Hero Monty

Claudio Monty

Sims inspired by Othello:

Desdemona Capp

Sims inspired by Hamlet:

Hecuba Albion

Hamlet Dane Sr.

Gertrude Dane

Hamlet Dane Jr.

Sims inspired by The Merchant of Venice:

Bassanio Monty

Portia Monty

Stephano Arlecchino

Antonio Monty

Sims inspired by Antony and Cleopatra:

Cleopatra Capp

Antony Capp

Sims inspired by Julius Caesar:

Julius Caesar

Calpurnia Caesar

Octavious Caesar

Sims inspired by Troilus and Cressida:

Andromache Thebe

Hector Thebe

Sims inspired by Richard III:

Richard Norman

Anne Norman

Sims inspired by Macbeth:

Macduff Scott

Lady Scott

Sims inspired by The Two Gentleman of Verona:

Valentine Monty

Silvia Monty

Proteus Pantalone

Julia Pantalone

Thurio Brighella

Lucetta Brighella

Sims inspired by The Merry Wives of Windsor:

Quickley Arlecchino

Nym Gossamer

Sims inspired by Love's Labour's Lost:

Holofernes Dottore

Maria Arlecchino

[cornyregans]

GVGP Profile: Claudio Monty

With Olivia Monty's entry done, it's now time for us to talk about her husband -- Claudio.

When it comes to his ancestry, Claudio is the deceased son of Patrizio and Isabella Monty, as well as the brother of Antonio and Bianca Monty. His grandparents include Valentine and Silvia Monty, as well as Vincentio and Francisca Pantalone. Finally, Claudio's great-grandparents are Bassanio and Portia Monty, Angelo and Mariana Capitano, Proteus and Julia Pantalone, and Lucio and Overdone Zanni.

Claudio Monty's Genetic Profile

Before his untimely death, Claudio was married to Olivia Monty, and they had two children, with a third on the way. As such, Claudio will be present in his offsprings' genetic profiles, and will be given a mention whenever necessary.

Skintone

As the son of two S3 parents, Claudio’s S3 skintone makes perfect sense.

Hair Color

If you’ve already read through Patrizio and Isabella’s genetic profiles, you'd know that their hair genetics are a mess. In Patrizio’s case, it’s due to contradictory sources, one where he has black hair, and one where he’s a brunet. While both of these hair colors can work, the brunet option is more situational, as we can't truly ascertain what Valentine and Portia Monty's genotypes truly were.

Claudio's Great-Grandparents via Patrizio Monty

SimPE lists Isabella as a blonde, but you will often find her depicted as a brunette (both by fans and in TS3). Unlike Patrizio, Isabella’s problem lies more with her parents’ faulty hair colors (specifically her mother’s). Much like Valentine, Vincentio Pantalone's headshot shows him with black hair despite having one brunet parent, and one with a recessive hair color. Conversely, Francisca has dominant brown hair in her headshot, yet both Lucio and Overdone Zanni had recessive hair colors.

Claudio's Great-Grandparents via Isabella Monty

As you’ve probably figured out, this whole hair thing is incredibly complicated. That said, in the interest of keeping this entry as short as possible, I’m only going to focus on how the following hair combinations affect Claudio’s genetic profile specifically.

Option 1: Black-Haired!Patrizio x Brown-Haired!Isabella: With a black-haired father and a brunette mother, Claudio’s black hair would make sense.

Option 2: Brown-Haired!Patrizio x Brown Haired!Isabella: Claudio’s black hair would only make sense with two brown-haired parents if Patrizio inherited the corresponding allele from his mother.

Option 3: Brown-Haired!Patrizio x Blonde-Haired!Isabella: With a brunet father and a blonde mother, Claudio’s black hair would only make sense if Patrizio received an allele for black hair from his mother.

Option 1: Black-Haired!Patrizio x Blonde-Haired!Isabella: With a black-haired father and a blonde mother, Claudio’s black hair would make sense.

Eye Color

Much like Consort Capp, Claudio is the victim of having an eye color that appeared spontaneously. Claudio’s ancestry consists of sims with brown, grey, and dark blue eyes; however, Claudio has light blue eyes. Of the known eye colors in his genetic history, the only recessive eye color is grey; however, only three of his ancestors were programmed with this specific gene.

On Patrizio’s side of the family tree, the only sim with grey eyes is Bassanio Monty. While we can’t say for sure if he was homozygous or heterozygous, we do know that he passed down a recessive allele to his son Valentine, who passed his down to Patrizio.

As for Isabella, both her father and paternal grandmother had grey eyes. In this case, Julia would have passed her recessive allele down to Vincentio, who passed it down to Isabella. That said, Vincentio couldn’t have had grey eyes if Proteus Pantalone was homozygous for dark blue eyes, so the latter sim would have needed a hypothetical recessive allele to justify this.

With these factors in mind, Claudio’s light blue eyes aren’t completely impossible. That being said, one of his great-grandparents would have needed to possess the proper phantom allele. Unlike with Consort, where there are multiple possibilities that can only be narrowed down so much, Claudio’s can be narrowed down to one sim.

Of his great-grandparents, the only one who couldn’t have passed down a light blue allele, not even with hypothetical genetics, is Portia Monty. As we’ve already discussed, Bassanio’s recessive eye color means Portia is the only sim who could have passed down a dominant allele to her brown-eyed son.

Valentine Monty's Visual Profile

With Portia eliminated, we can remove four more sims. All of Patrizio and Isabella’s maternal ancestors had brown eyes. As a result, the Capitanos and Zannis could all pass down exclusively dominant alleles, and the Monty family tree wouldn’t be any worse off. Not only that, but these exclusively brown-eyed ancestors perfectly explain how Patrizio and Isabella could be heterozygous for brown eyes, meaning Claudio's recessive alleles would have come from the Monty and Pantalone lines.

Silvia Monty's Visual Profile

Francisca Pantalone's Visual Profile

Now we’re left with only the Monty and Pantalone lines. We’ve already debunked Portia through a process of elimination, so we’re left with three sims — Bassanio Monty, and Proteus and Julia Pantalone. Of the three, the first sim we can remove from the list would be Julia. If Julia had a light blue allele, then it would mean that Proteus’s recessive allele would need to be grey to explain Vincentio’s eye color. While this situation is plausible, it’s not the option that uses the fewest hypothetical genetics.

Vincentio Pantalone's Visual Profile

This leaves us with Bassanio and Proteus as potential sources for the light blue allele. While both could have realistically had the gene, only one is needed to explain Claudio’s eye color. Of the two, however, the option that uses the fewest hypothetical genetics would be to assume that Proteus was the one who initially possessed the recessive allele. Unlike Bassanio, who could be heterozygous, Proteus would need to be heterozygous to explain how his son, and by extension his great-grandson, could realistically have recessive eye colors.

As a Whole

Claudio Monty's filled out genetic profile. As you can see, his skintone makes perfect sense when taking his genetic history into account. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for his hair color, which makes sense on the surface, but has too many tangled webs to properly unweave. Finally, Claudio's eye color is a happy medium, as it makes sense with hypothetical genetics; however, the journey to deciphering the source is rather tedious.

Who's Next?

With all the ABC Montys out of the way, our next entry is going to cover the final sim to marry into the Capp family -- Albany Capp.

Thank you for reading!~ <3