#wong/karl mordo

[xenocorner]

Some sorcerer boys that deserve more love than they get :']

Also bullying their local white man:

[heckcareoxytwit]

Bats was telling the history of Men and Dogs to Baron Mordo and the magic snakes in the middle of the ritual when the God of the Dogs appears to them. As the Dog God asks why he had been summoned, Bats replied that the world had gone dark from the vampire invasion and he needs his help in saving Doctor Strange and Wong. The Dog God agrees to Bats' plea to help him out. Outside the Mirror Dimension, Wong has been exhausted from running and he is cornered by Victor-Doctor Strange (Victor Strange's spirit possessing the body of the vampirized Stephen Strange). Before Victor-Doctor Strange could bite Wong, the mirrors shatter around them and the Dog God with Bats' face appears before them. While Bats-God is engaged in a battle with Victor-Doctor Strange, Wong sees a couple of magic snakes and Baron Mordo. Even though Wong is glad that he's saved, he is not happy to see Baron Mordo. Bats-God bites Victor Strange's spirit and extracts him from Doctor Strange's body. Doctor Strange is freed from not only the evil spirit, he is also cured from vampirism. As Victor Strange is finally defeated, the Dog God leaves Bats and bids his farewell to the ghost dog. Much to Wong's dismay, Baron Mordo takes the defeated Victor Strange to the portal.

Doctor Strange v6 #17, 2024

[fanartka]

[thingsasbarcodes]

Doctor Strange (2016)

[marvelnewssource]

Deleted concept art of a scene with dead Strange variants in the “Incursion universe” from Multiverse of Madness that features Stephen, Wong, Mordo and Wanda

[ghostbite0]

i still miss them

[starkkawajiri]

im feeling better and i had a brilliant brilliant genius idea scoob. (EXPLANATION BELOW)

okay class what was the author trying to say

fatui harbinger au. SHOCKED EMOJI

sub-au. an AU of an AU (marvel impact) because three things happened to cross paths in my big empty mind:

1. "man i would love an evil stephen au"

2. "man i need to draw genshin mordo"

and 3. "i love the harbingers" and when the idea lit up like a flame in my brain i exploded out of bed

this au consists of the best magic users ever being fatui harbingers (rip traveler) because evil hot and crazy sexy, instead of adding more harbingers they replace already existing ones because one two three enough fatui for me

so basically evil evil magic users au

((before moving on for ppl that do play genshin but dont know much about the fatui harbingers, there's 11 of them and they're ranked based on strength, personally i wouldnt even know how to scale them based on their powers so i didnt touch the ranks, just switched out the characters))

NOW EXPLAINING EACH OF THEM IN ORDER OF THEIR 'RANK' starting with lowkey

Loki is pretty self explanatory, he takes The Tsaritsa's place because cryo archon.... ice...god.....

i was initially planning on making loki take scaramouche's place because i found scara's "YOU'RE INTERRUPTING A CONVERSATION BETWEEN GODS......" dialogue in the sumeru quest so funny and because the idea of loki being a fake-god seemed cool, but her as the cryo archon and overall leader of the fatui was too good to put aside

IMPORTANT NOTE/EDIT: NVM YALL LMFAOOOO I DECIDED (iwas MANIPULATED /j /aimed) TO CHANGE LOKI BACK TO TAKING SCARAMOUCHE'S PLACE there's a lot more things they have in common and it sets an interesting dynamic between him and other characters in this au, including thor ("better version of him"), strange (using loki as a vessel to create a god) etc

Wong's the baddest bitch in this post theres no other explanation

im (half)joking (hes so fine) theres an explanation

it was between that and making him take Il Capitano's place, which would have been Rank 1, and he would have still ranked higher than everyone else (besides Loki) so i looked at their wikis .

The Director (Pierro) handpicked certain Harbingers, two of which being Il Dottore and La Signora (in this au, Strange and Wanda) so that was just the stars aligning for this au

Strange's gotta be even more self-explanatory than Loki's

il dottore. the doctor.

need i say more (no but i will)

i need at least 34084 aus of this man being evil idk i cant control myself

Sufian and Zandik (Dottore) already had a lot in common or parallel in the marvel impact au, both expelled students from the Akademiya, positive/negative relations with the dendro archon, man kissers, insert il dottore wiki

i want him to be scary and feared now and then, is that too much for a man to want from another man (rip eleazar patients)

clea had to be arlecchino/the knave because. because

clea in a suit primary excuse

arlecchino's cool hair secondary excuse

woman kisser back-up excuse

theres little to no explanation here i just sensed it spiritually (arlecchino is the best ily arlecchino) + the theory about arlecchino being half-hilichurl?? or something like that? because of the cool gradient on her skin, which is rlly awesome, so non-human bonus points

need more insane, cold, calculated, manipulative, insane, insane, deceiving, insane women sometimes

mordo he exists hes here save me mordo

im gonna be so fr with you guys rn

pulcinella is just there, i forget he exists often times

only mordo can fix that

after deciding on making Wong the Director, i considered making Mordo take Il Capitano's place or Pantalone's/The Regrator's, but i was really really unsure, he didn't seem to fit either of them and by making him take the Regrator's place I would be putting him in a rank that is wayy too low (9) and considering how little there is about Pulcinella (literally almost nothing), I would have a lot of creative freedom

wanda had to be one of the easiest to sort out....la signora..... alternatively "crimson witch".......? come on they forced my hand atp

im so sorry red bisexual i didnt want you to get such a low rank (8) i had no other choice

la signora is such a badass im tired of pretending shes not (+her Crimson Witch form is amazing)

consumed by grief and anguish, destroying themselves in the process? they twin

fandom theories about their resurrection? they twin

that was it i love being normal about any interest i have . ever

[sanctum-stinker]

SU🅱️REME TIME. 

Cannot express the joy I feel in reading some of the tags you fellows leave. I wish I could reply to every single one of them with my gratitude, but unfortunately I don’t know how.

This is a post explaining 838 lore! There is literally too much text from what I have so far, so I’ll break the 838 involvement into two parts: Lore/Backstory and Involvement in the actual re-write. Yet again, most of what’s written here is only thought out for my own enjoyment and is never mentioned in the actual re-write.

This post will explain how 838 Stephen varies from 616 and the others, the change in the timeline because of this variation, the forming of the Illuminati and Supreme’s downfall and how that leads into the plot, as well as details of various supporting characters like Christine, Tony (Yep. He’s here because I said so) and Mordo.

I apologize for any spelling errors. I cannot proof read when there is more than three words on screen.

TIME TO GO TO FLAVORTOWN!

838 Stephen lore.

In this Universe, Stephen sought Kamar-Taj to try and bring Donna back. He was still in his early days of being a Doctor, and learns of Kamar-Taj through Jonathan Pangborn. After seeing him walk as if his spine was not snapped clean in two, Stephen’s curiosity led him to questioning John and leading him to Kathmandu.

This means that he became a sorcerer at a younger age and making him the youngest Strange out of the four main variants (Sinister is oldest, then defender, 616 Stephen and then 838).

As a result of his premature arrival Kaecilius was still a Master of Kamar-Taj and finds Stephen’s motives in learning magic to mirror his (death of loved one/s) and attempts to become his mentor, but Tao assigns Mordo to him instead.

Kaecilius is angered that Tao is allowing another student to be led blindly into joining the league of sorcerers and attempts to pull Stephen onto his side with his Zealots. Stephen agrees with his cause, believing this was the way to get Donna back and joins the zealots for a short period of time, learning of Dormammu and the dark dimension.

Later on Kaecilius and the zealots overthrow Tao, and Stephen is forced to betray Kaecilius to fulfill his Hippocratic oath. Tao sees the good in Stephen and gives him the title of Sorcerer supreme before she dies.

Stephen was not ready to have the title, and thus he is assigned Wong, who aids him as a sort of mentor, ally and bodyguard to ensure he is led on the right path.

Stephen, Wong and Mordo put a stop to Kaecilus’ operations, but Mordo, enraged that Tao would so impulsively gave the title to Stephen, leaves Kamar-Taj.

A short break before we get into the 838 lore that’s directly important to the plot. This break is bought to you by….

Wong’s new physical form!

He looks like that because I like comic Wong and he deserves the world. Benedict Wong is a god I will worship forever till death, but comic Wong is my uncle. Because of the pre-existing lore with the Peters looking different I thought it would be reasonable to have this Wong be different too. Stephen also has a couple of Variants which differ from the uniquely molded alien shape of Benedict Cumberbatch. My variant from universe 001 is Vincent Price to pay respects to the likeness they pulled from the actor in the comics.

ANYWHO, BACK TO IT!

The forming of ‘The Illuminati’

Because 838 Stephen was Sorcerer Supreme earlier, the world was introduced to the sorcerer’s and mystic order a lot earlier, as Stephen’s personality won’t allow him to work from the shadows.

As a result he helped in the ‘Battle of New York’ (naturally since he lives in the sanctum), and became acquainted with the Avengers.

After the battle ended Tony, who became paranoid of out of the world threats, created ‘The Illuminati’, a secret group of people who could handle these threats with their differing abilities.

Now, I haven’t exactly pinned who is a part of the group and why, and it doesn’t really matter as only Tony needs to exist for the re-write plot, but so far I have Reed Richards, Tony Stark (a variant inspired by Superior Ironman), Professor X and Bruce Banner/Hulk.

Tony still creates Ultron, though the details of all that I haven’t bothered to come up with. All that matters is that Vision exists now. [^^>] Also Wanda is there. Yeah.

Infinity War / Endgame

Timeskip to Infinity War because this is where shit goes DOWN.

Thanos has come for the stones on earth, and the black order were sent as a warning. When The Avengers failed, The Illuminati banded together as planned and manage to deal with the order, leading to Thanos’ direct involvement.

Stephen attempts to use the book of Vishanti to find an answer to the crisis, but only finds tactics which involved sacrificing half the universe, or extremely dubious methods.

Naturally he turns to ✨Dark magic✨ instead. Because he, at one point, was a zealot, 838 Stephen is more drawn to the Dark Dimension as he knows the raw power it offers.

He devises a plan with Wong, telling him that he would create a pact with Dormammu, selling a small portion of his soul for a sum of power. After Thanos is dealt with, Wong will use the book of Vishanti to remove the darkness from him and hopefully restore his soul by breaking the pact. Wong, knowing Stephen will only turn to worse methods if he refused, agrees to this plan and leaves to find the book which the two built a waypoint to.

Stephen makes the pact successfully, arrives at the battle at the last minute, and absolutely obliterates the shit out of that grape.

Unfortunately the use of such raw power weakens his physical and spiritual bodies, meaning the energies he absorbed from Dormammu become volatile and uncontrollable. He, ironically, becomes the threat as bursts of dark magic explode out of him as he tries to contain it somehow.

Seeing the damage Stephen was causing, and thinking there to be no other way out, Tony kills Stephen. He does it swiftly, shooting him through the heart with a repulser blast.

Wong, who had retrieved the book of Vishanti, arrives to see Stephen hit the ground and draw his last breath.

The Illuminati take Stephen’s body, as a shocked Wong is unable to move. Believing it was the best thing to do they cover up Stephen’s outburst, creating a fabricated story of sacrifice to save his honor and public image.

The Illuminati disband after their conflicting opinions on Tony’s actions.

Kamar-Taj Post Endgame

Mordo, much like 616 Mordo, that’s begun a moral mission to wipe out the sorcerers. Believing the finite supply of earth’s magic is I rightfully being wasted on people who don’t deserve to wield it, he begins picking off previous students of Kamar-Taj, slowly working up his power and gaining a reputation for his actions.

Wong has taken up the duty as the Master of the New York Sanctum, but spends a lot of time at Kamar-Taj fortifying and ensuring the waypoint to the book of Vishanti is not opened by anyone else.

With the Sorcerer Supreme gone, many insist Wong take the mantle, but he refuses out of guilt (and a healthy dose of self depreciation). The mantle remains open.

Mordo, after years of collecting magic and slaying (yass) sorcerers, returns to Kamar-Taj after Stephen’s death to take the position of Sorcerer Supreme. He shows his strength by battling the forces of Kamar-Taj and overthrowing the battalions. Wong and the masters immediately have Kamar-Taj evacuated, as they know battle would be futile. They scatter to temples and safe houses around the world, leaving Mordo free to take the title of Sorcerer Supreme. He finds no use in staying at Kamar-Taj and moves into the New York Sanctum.

Wong remains at Kamar-Taj after collecting what he could from the (formerly his own) Sanctum. He protects the waypoint he and Stephen created knowing now more than ever that people would likely come looking for it.

This all happens a couple weeks after Stephen’s death/murder, so Wong is unable to contact the Illuminati or move against them. He doubts he could make a difference regardless, and hides in Kamar-Taj afraid of what the outside world is doing to Stephen’s reputation.

Christine

Because Stephen stopped being a doctor at a younger age he never really reached the peak of his arrogance because he never really became powerful enough. Thus his relationship with Christine went a lot better.

The Ancient One also teaches him to overcome his grief and guilt regarding Donna (much like 616 being taught to overcome his disability), as that’s the conflict that lead him to Kamar-Taj. Because he accepted that part of his life he was more open to letting people in and facing his fears of being loved or loving, thus he continues his relationship with Christine.

Even after becoming a sorcerer he keeps in touch with her, and the two remain in good terms. She is, of course, his emergency nurse when shit hits the fan.

After he becomes Sorcerer Supreme he teaches her some of the basics of magic in hopes it could help her to protect herself in the possibility that his mystic life put her in danger. He teaches her most about the relics, as some of them can be used regardless of wether you have magic knowledge or not

They were engaged at the time of his death.

One of the members of the Illuminati (maybe Reed?) tells her about the true story as to what happened to Stephen, believing it was morally wrong for her to think Stephen simply sacrificed himself. She feels betrayed that Stephen would turn to Dark magic so quickly despite being so against it, and is left conflicted about her feelings towards him. She cuts everything off and buries herself in her work.

Wong is too overwhelmed with the pressures at Kamar-Taj, and then the overthrowing of the mystic order to talk to her, and is too scared to leave Kamar-Taj, as well as being afraid of compromising Christine and getting her killed.

Christine contacts Tony, and starts developing tech based around the relics Stephen had given her to potentially stop another mystically dangerous event such as Stephen’s outburst from happening again. This includes holding chambers, magic absorbing handcuffs and restraints and other paraphernalia.

She comes in contact with Mordo who admires what she’s doing and allows her to use some of the more ‘useless’ relics around the New York Sanctum. She makes him a sword (which isn’t used in the re-write but appears in the og movie), and cements herself in Mordo’s good books, as he knows he can use this to continue his mission which Christine is not aware about.

She later branches out into Multiversal studies, and that’s where we find her when she appears in the re-write!

Wanda and Vision

Because Stephen killed Thanos Vision is still alive! Thus Wandavision never occurs and Wanda is doing very well.

They got married!!

Vision and Wanda are still both Avengers, and work with the variants of whoever I decide is a part of the Avengers in 838 (if I ever do), but prioritize a normal life and time together over missions.

Vision becomes aware of 616 Wanda’s dreamwalking because of his abilities with the soulstone, and is confused as to what could be happening to his wife.

Vision, not just 838 but as a concept, is a much bigger thing in my re-write. He was the soul reason why WandaVision happened, and I feel should be Wanda’s driving motivation. The children are not real, and even if they were they only exist because of Vision, thus he should be the priority.

Bits and bobs

Because Tony is alive, and half the universe didn’t disappear, 838 is far more technologically advanced than 616.

Every Sorcerer after becoming a Master of the Mystic arts gets a metallic armor piece to symbolize their ranking.

838 is a lot more experienced with magic just existing because there isn’t as big of an effort to hide the sorcerers after Stephen’s debut in the Battle of New York.

Wong 💚

Thought it was interesting to have Tony kill 838 Stephen, because it’s a vice versa to 616 and offers our Stephen a look into a possible universe where HE was the one that died. Again, his guilt regarding Infinity war/ Endgame is a huge thing in this so I thought it would be fun to add some flavor with this.

Also, wether Tony is an RDJ Tony or not is undecided. Obviously it doesn’t matter because it’s never going to be made into a movie where actual critics will blast me for disrespectfully recasting RDJ after Tony’s death, but sometimes I like to think it through as if I really am a director (and the whole team). I think that the existence of a multiverse leads to a widow where we can look at different aspects of a character that couldn’t be shown in a linear storyline, so that’s how I (unnecessarily) justify the existence of this Tony variant.

Although his suit is inspired by Superior Ironman, Tony is in no way as malicious or evil as he is. He’s only inspired by him, he isn’t the character directly. He may have some of the qualities, but nowhere near enough to be considered evil or even bad.

Well, that hurt my head to write out. I hope it doesn’t hurt yours when you read it!

Asks are always welcome, as well as pointing out any plot holes you may see. The rewrite is all planned out solely by me, and thus I know I would’ve overlooked some parts that may be glaringly obvious, so please shout them at me!

If you read through all of that, first of all “wow”, second of all thank you *firmly shakes your hand*.

Thanks for your time! Laters!

[comicwaren]

From Doctor Strange Vol. 6 #016, “Blood Hunt Pt. 2”

Art by Pasqual Ferry and Heather Moore

Written by Jed MacKay

[tobiasdrake]

It's interesting that The Ancient One seems to collect assholes.

She's reluctant to take Stephen on because he's arrogant, self-centered, and power-hungry. She sees in him another Kaecilius and doesn't want to make the same mistake again. It's only an impassioned convincing from Mordo that persuades her.

But Mordo, for all his righteousness, implies a darker history. Mordo suggests that he used to be a violent bastard. As he puts it, he sought power to defeat his enemies until the Ancient One filled him with a higher purpose. He wanted violence; She sharpened him into a sword for Kamar-Taj. And he took to the belief system she gave him a little too well.

None of these people are really good people. People don't come to Kamar-Taj because they've made good life choices. Even the Ancient One herself is violating her own teachings for the sake of immortality. Everyone kinda sucks here.

Really makes me wonder what Wong used to be like.

[mckiwi]

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Wong is trying to figure out what to do with the vampirized Doctor Strange while the astral form of Doctor Strange is away. Meanwhile, Victor Strange takes advantage of the situation by possessing the body of Doctor Strange and makes him attack Wong. In the middle of the fight, Wong recognizes the entity who possessed his best friend as Victor Strange the evil brother of Doctor Strange. Wong learns that Victor Strange and evil-Blade are seemingly behind the vampire attacks on all over the world. Despite all his efforts in kicking and punching, Wong could not bare to stab the vampirized and possessed Doctor Strange with a stake. Victor-Doctor Strange lets him go and laughs at Wong as he begins to play a sadistic game. Unknown to Wong, he is watched over by Bats, Baron Mordo and the snakes who are trapped inside the Mirror Dimension. Bats, Mordo and the snakes gather around the magic circle as they vow to save Wong, Doctor Strange and the world.

Doctor Strange v6 #16, 2024

[thingsasbarcodes]

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022)

[mianmimi]

Apparently Wong is dying in Secret Wars or Kang Dynasty? It's just rumors, though. They've been setting him up as a beloved side character and his death could be what unites several characters into teaming up to avenge him. It makes sense. However, if he dies I'm officially done. It's disrespectful for so many reason. Also, no offense but I was never a fan of Cucumber Man's take on Stephen. He's not enough for me to keep watching, especially without Mordo. Marvel Studios hates the DS ip fr.

It would devastate me if they actually do end up killing Wong. I heard that MoM was supposed to feature both Mordo and Wong’s deaths and it’s just so….infuriating. Like why even have them there if they’re gonna be canon fodder in a movie that should be showcasing the best of them? 😭 It’s just incredibly sad all around. They have all this potential and talent at their disposal and do nothing with it. That’s the real crime I think. Having the tools to make a masterpiece yet squandering it. *heavy sigh*

I really enjoy watching Cumberbatch, Wong, and Ejiofor together. Those scenes in DS1 where they’re all just interacting were some of the best parts for me. And yet the sequel didn’t give us anything close to that. I really, really hope Wong doesn’t die anytime soon. He’s my favorite 🥺 He must be spared.

Side note, I need the MCU to let sorcerers be sorcerers. I wanna see some crazy magic!

[ghostbite0]

bunch of marvels on one canvas 

[hitchell-mope]

Decent movie. Wanda and Wong were definitely the highlights. But still. Decent movie.