#woof idk i feel like i need to talk abt it a little

[kuiinncedes]

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[violenceenthusiast]

im curious why people are saying supernatural is jewish like idk if jewish writers makes an inherently jewish story especially when things like following out the christian apocalypse from revelations and showing a real physical g-d who is just some guy i think is super jarring since though christians claim to be against idolatry they seem totally fine showing depictions of gd or whatever i dont get jesus honestly but jews are far more strict and the idea of showing gds appearance is pretty wrong

WOOF okay um. Maybe this is one of those Tone Doesn’t Come Thru Well Online things but to me this is soo fucking rude… I’m half way between John Mulaney we don't have time to unpack all of that & Ben Wyatt wait it’s gonna bother me if I don’t explain why you’re wrong. 

This turned into all my thoughts. 

So like. First off, it’s all fun and games. We’re all just joking and joshing and projecting here on destiel dot tumblr dot com and Jupernatural is not an exception in a lot of ways. And so when someone shits on what we’re doing here (yes, even unintentionally) what you get is what happened: oh you think you’re funny well I’m about to be hilarious!!! aka I’m gonna do it even more now out of spite specifically because you said not to. Like it really is all jokes but also you know what’s not a joke? Antisemitism in all its forms, even the casual shit! It’s really draining and it builds up in your veins!! Just. Yeah. You saw a lot of people talking about it today in particular because much like other topics of the day, one thing kicks off a whole other turn of events. So like. one misguided comment that’s playfully antisemitic and then one more little one, and then one big/obvious one launched us (Jewish spn fans) into a whole bigger discussion about antisemitism and erasure of Jews in the spn fandom writ large. It’s one thing to be descriptive, offer a headcanon/what if, or employ a certain mode of analysis. It’s another thing to definitively say This Is The Truth, specifically when to do so overrides something else, especially in this case when what’s being overridden is Jews, an ethnoreligious minority. It’s also another thing to talk over Jews. And mind this has been building for days. Not in a bad way just like, it’s been topical for days and then today one big thing pushed it over the edge to us actually posting abt it (partially bc at that point it’s a pattern, which feels like it needs to be addressed). Like, destiel tumblr is small we pretty much all see all the same posts, and then Jewish spn fans… we’re friends, we chat about life? We joke around together, y’know? If you’re being antisemitic (yes, even unintentionally) we’re all gonna hear abt it. It’s how we stay safe or in this case, curate the online exp.

That being said tho projecting on fiction is like fun and even a good thing at times, and def opens up new modes of analysis. But! the other big thing here is that there IS a LOT of evidence for a Jewish reading of spn, in a lot of ways, and particularly if you know what to look for. Like there’s lots of niche Jewish slang (non-Jews just don’t know these things, and that is a reflection primarily of the writers but once you put it in the script it implies things about the characters too of course), the theology of the early seasons (I’ll get to that in a second), main character motivations (hold on), “Moishe Campbell” implying Mary is (and therefore Sam and Dean are) Jewish, etc. 

It’s not surprising to me or anything that non-Jews don’t catch anything/everything Jewish about spn but that Jews catch both sides of it, because that’s just how being part of a marginalized group works. You learn about your own stuff AND the dominant culture’s stuff because that’s how you survive (socially, psychologically, literally). Members of the dominant culture don’t need to learn the marginalized one, are never confronted with it, and so they just.. don’t. I don’t even mean that in a normative or accusatory way, that’s just an observation on the state of things. Non-Jews who aren’t part of another marginalized religion, aka expressed xtians and cultural xtians, have a ton of misconceptions about Judaism, for example, “Jesus was Jewish” and not, “Jesus was an asshole of an apostate who made life harder for Jews at the time in a myriad of ways and whose movement has had a lasting negative impact on world Jewry (and other peoples) for the ensuing millenia”. I truly Don’t Have Time right now to get into the varied and intense history of antisemitism in all its forms but. the point I’m making here is that I’m not shocked I need to explain that life experience shapes your worldview?? So if you’re Jewish you’re always gonna be living life through that version of the world and it does impact you?? Same as anything else?? As unwell as they may be, spn writers aren’t exempt from that. Jewish people writing about xtianity are doing so thru a primarily Jewish understanding and vice versa. Jews can (and did!) write about xtian lore but in a Jewish way! Some core Jewish themes: wrestling with angels/G-d, questioning G-d, IF there’s a G-d they will have to beg MY forgiveness, the afterlife isn’t really a big thing so all that matters is your time on earth, make amends to others directly and thru your actions rather than seeking absolution with G-d, you are not obligated to complete the work nor may you abandon it, etc… So that’s the other reasoning why we say “spn is Jewish” based solely on it being written by Jews. Rather than Death of The Author, let’s look at what the author has imbued the story with, both intentionally and unintentionally. And re: Chuck and idolatry… I don’t even know where to start with the way you phrased this but. the Jewish Spn Writers of Note are apparently Kripke, Gamble, and Edlund. All of whom stopped writing for the show years before the Chuck Is God plot! 

Like yes it feels very stupid to be writing a thousand words on antisemitism and supernatural but like. this is a spn blog run by a Jew so. This whole thing is also just the same every time. This is very representative of typical casual antisemitism.

[woozi]

henlo non anonymous 🌸.anon jdjdjd. also before i forget, you can call me cherie if you wanna. (it's my nickname dhdjdj i realised i never told you my name 💀)

naur djdjjekeke that ooh part always gets me 😭😭 he's so jdjdjdkk. now that you mentioned it i feel like mentioning how the first thing which comes to my mind after thinking about rocket line is the moment during interview they thought they were gonna get hit w bricks 😭😭😭 they're so djdjsk

THE HIGHLIGHT MEDLEY WAS SO GOOOD THE MV TEASERS WERE ABSOLUTELY BANGER im so impressed honestly! after bambam's svt's medley comes at 2nd, as my most favorite medley this year fr! </3 SONGS TOO 😭 my ranking for now is crush, rock w you and pang/i can't run away are tied djjdjd I can't not choose pang it sounds so cute??? i hope dino is in there tho, i don't understand why he was not included. AND I CAN'T RUN AWAY?? WE'RE GETTING SINGER CHEOL??$+(#( IM SO EXCITED FOR IT 😭 what about you?

the way i had to search for good 4 u because i didn't know which song you were talking about i have 0 knowledge abt olivia rodrigo's songs djjddkdk also not hannah montana 😭😭😭

vocal unit's lyrics tho </3 these are some very sentimental mermans. i saw some tweets of the music show schedules idk how accurate it is but only title track is listed for now :< im really hoping they perform one bside at least. also speaking about performance, svt really gonna rock the big stages with this choreo. the bits only look so so good already ahhh

poor little woof woof hdjejejddk nooo. it's 1 a.m here rn djdj cannot wait to wake up to new era. usually it comes around at noon next day but tomorrow, it's probably gonna be out before i wake up hdjddjkd.

HELLOO??#?# the way i never ever connected these dots. like hao liking tea is not a new info but i didn't think about mbti at all djdjkkd thank you for this enlightening me <3 what would i do without you? mbtis(real) djdjdkdk

HAPPY CB DAY! (missing junhao so much <///3) hope you have the sexiest day tomorrow🔥🎸, yza :3 - 🪂

from now on i'm gonna end these with 🌸 anon KJFDJKFDKJDFKJFD

it's always the first thing i think of when i get reminded of rocket 😭 ALSO WHAT IS THAT AND WHY HAVE I NEVER HEARD OF IT?????????????????

OH MY GOD YOU DONT KNOW HOW I FEEL ABT U BRINGING UP BAM'S MEDLEY BC OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. that was the first time i've seen a kpop act do THAT MUCH for a medley and im so sad people slept on it 😭 i love it SO so much it was so well produced and the tracks were also so good </3 OK BUT ONTO THE SVTEENIES!!!!!!!!!!1 they literally cannot flop huh <3 AND UR CHOICES <3 <3 <3 ur literally so sexy wtf <3 i actually can't rank the songs i love them all sm 😭 ok but i thought i would like icra more and although ITS V GOOD dont get me wrong, it didnt quite live up to my expectations </3 PANG OH MY GODDDDD ON THE FUCKING OTHER HAND!!!!!!!!!!!1 is unexpectedly the track i've been listening to the most. i didn't think it'd slap as hard as it does. the FUCKING PRICKLY RAIN LINE TOOK ME OUT!!!!!!!!!! and since then i couldnt stop listening to it. AND IT'S A WIN FOR US DINO'S V E R Y THERE OH MY GODDDDDDDDDD. i feel like he's grown so much with this album </3 im SO SO SO psyched about him in pang though i hope they perform it </3 ur RIGHT ITS THE PUSSY PART!!! cant wait to see some balloon boys

the way u know absolutely NOTHING about olivia is so sexie to me <3 remain that way <3 JFDJKDFKJDJK (not that she's a bad artist, i just love how u don't feel the need to keep up w media <3)

THE SENTIMENTAL MERMEN 😭😭😭 that made me laugh irl and it's already 1 am my parents are gonna scold me again fdjkdfjkfdj AND U ARE ONCE AGAIN SOOO RIGHT. rmb when boo and mg danced to it before it was released and people were like.... its so easy anyone can do it... IM SO GLAD COUPS CLAPPED BACK BC LOOK AT THIS SHIT??????????/ i'm just watching and i already feel TIRED as fuck how are they even singing. AND YEAH OMG that's one thing i'm anticipating too!! i hope they perform the other songs as well not just in the cb show :((

HOW ARE U ENJOYING THIS ERA <3 <3 <3 <3 WHAT HAPPENED TO U WHEN IT DROPPED GJKFjkfdjkdf

i just like making shit up and sometimes they make sense ngl <3 KJDFKJFDKJFDJK AND THE MBTI (REAL) SCREAMMMMMMMMMMM why are u lich rally so funny i love u sm 😭

HAPPY CB WEEK LOVE <3 <3 <3 sorry i got to this so late i felt like dying with uni work and i still am (only up til this fri tho bc after that i wont have classes for a week straight) <3 maybe that's why they're trying to kill us now JFDJKDFJK thank u for always wishing me well <3 i lov u, i want us both to eat well (idk why im quoting shit now but these tender lines remind me of u and ur vibe and also i just lov u <3)

- 🌸 anon