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No. I refuse to believe that Vivziepop actually cares about SA victims. Every piece of evidence points to the contrary. 

CW for images that discuss or showcase rape. Tread cautiously.

First, let’s look at the Glitz and Glam Valentines merch. In this merch, they’re seen groping each other and making a scissoring pose.

The common excuse for this is that they’re just playing into those twincest tropes because that’s their whole brand in the show. But the merch exists outside of the show. This merch was not made in the show to show how the porn company will do any depraved fetish for a quick buck. This merch was made for people in the real world, people who have actual twincest fetishes. You can have merch of them playing into the fact that they’re twins without making it to where they are sexualizing one another like that.  An example of this trope done right are Hikaru and Kaoru from Ouran High School Host Club. These 2 often times play into the twincest trope for money, it’s their whole brand. But the show is very clear in showing us that this is not truly them. We never see them behave this way outside of work. Outside of work, they act like actual brothers. They’re doing it just for money. (And it’s also kind of trauma, but watch OHSHC if you want to see that in depth lol)

I was discussing something with my friend, how fiction does affect reality, since fiction is a direct byproduct of reality, which is why things like incest or age gap ships are inherently wrong. My friend (who is a big Hannibal fan) goes “I get where you’re coming from and I agree, but I’m also a simp for fictional cannibals.” And to that I said you are less likely to meet someone who is a cannibal or done that heinous crime than you are to find someone who’s a victim to incest abuse. It’s similar to how Vox doesn’t receive hate from the fandom for killing lower income workers, because that’s almost cartoonish in how bad it is.

Then there’s Val. The show is constantly fluctuating between him between a genuine, sinister threat and then him being a ridiculously silly evil man that we shouldn’t take seriously. I can almost understand what they’re going for, showing that he’s an absolute loser that we’re meant to point and laugh at, because he is a loser (fuck sexual abusers). However, there’s a huge disconnect. It’s jarring when you switch between the two on a dime. And I think part of the reason they do this is because of his relationship with Vox. Vox is meant to be a silly, goofy villain and so pairing him with the genuine sinister and disgusting version of Val that we all know and hate, it would feel weird. But here’s the thing. NONE of the Vees should feel cartoonish and stupid like this. They’re supposed to be perceived as actual threats, apparently. So, instead, make Vox genuinely sinister and evil too! ACKNOWLEDGE HIS CAMERA IN ANGEL’S DRESSING ROOM! ACKNOWLEDGE HIM MARKETING VAL’S DATE RAPE DRUG! Don’t add these background details if you’re not going to acknowledge that Vox is a predator as well. 

And then there’s Charlie, who has the power and authority to take Val down if she wanted to. But why doesn’t she? Because, in her words, “That would be so meaaaaan.” …I have nothing to say to that. 

And then there’s Angel. He is not deep in the slightest. They tried so hard but failed miserably. He’s supposedly from a mafia background. You would never know because he’s never seen outside of anything sexual. Sex jokes, comments on how he’s sexy, talking about how he’s a sex worker, all that jazz. He has nothing going for him outside of sex. Which is bad when his whole arc is meant to be how he hates being sexualized deep down! I understand that the show is trying to show us that he’s hypersexualizing himself because of his trauma. But this rings hollow when the show refuses to show us literally anything outside of him being sexual! Apparently, he likes to sing and dance. But you wouldn’t know that! (I know he sings, BUT EVERYONE SINGS. IT’S A MUSICAL. Even Vaggie sings when she clearly didn’t like it in the first episode, so Poison doesn’t count). You wouldn’t know anything about his interests because all he’s used for is for sex. It doesn’t help that literally almost all of his merch surrounds him being sexualized in some way, feeding into the idea of him hypersexualizing himself not being taken seriously. 

This is especially bad when you remember that when Viv was marketing the music video for Poison, THIS WOMAN MADE A CUM JOKE! Yknow, the music video all about sexual abuse? Ya, let’s make a stupid sex pun because that’s not tone deaf at all! Fuck you Viv.

And only certain characters get their sexual abuse shined on. But if you’re, say, Blitzo, Sir Pentious, or Husk, your SA experience is completely swept under the rug and ignored. Why? Well, because Blitzo and Husk are more masculine characters than her twinks who get acknowledged for their abuse. And Pentious is a character we’re supposed to be pointing and laughing at. 

And don’t even get me started on Raphielle. This person is a storyboard artist for the show, and the storyboard artist for Poison. AND THIS MOTHERFUCKER HAS A RAPE FETISH! I kid you not! This person has even drawn art of Angel being raped by Vox and Val. I refuse to believe Viv cares about abuse victims when she has someone like this on her pay roll (whom she actively defends, mind you). She even lied, saying that this person is a victim of sexual abuse, to which this person admitted was a LIE. 

Also, how she treats fans who are also victims of SA. Everytime someone comes forward, saying that they didn’t like the depiction of sexual abuse in the show, Viv will dogpile on them (the most famous example of this being Limus). But then if a fan who is a victim of SA praises the depiction, she will put them on a pedestal. This is tokenization at its finest!

And, hey, let’s talk about Viv’s catcalling comic, too!

In this comic, two women are being catcalled. One hates it and the other likes it, saying that it means they’re attractive. The one who hates it then starts yelling at the other girl and based on the framing of the scene, it feels we’re supposed to hate the first girl and think that the second girl was right. FUCK. THAT. This comic could’ve been such an interesting commentary on victim blaming and unhealthily coping with SA by justifying it to yourself. But no. That’s not what was done here. Great. 

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I feel the need to talk about this as I’ve seen this argument come up repeatedly when people point out Vivzie’s hypocrisy regarding topics like sexual assault.

Shows like Family Guy and South Park don’t face as much controversy for making jokes about sensitive topics like sexual assault or rape because that kind of humor is already an established part of their identity. These shows thrive on gross-out comedy and satire, making fun of everyone and everything. Provoking reactions and stirring controversy isn’t just something they do—it’s part of their formula.

Even if you’ve never watched an episode, a quick search for “Family Guy controversy” or “South Park controversy” makes it clear that they’ve always been known for tackling taboo topics in a comedic way. It’s expected and that’s the point.

Vivzie however, set a different standard for herself. She has publicly stated that she takes sexual assault seriously and supports all survivors. By her own words, this topic should be treated with care and respect. She established that bar so when her works doesn’t align with those values, it’s entirely reasonable for people to call her out. It’s similar to someone saying, ‘I take racism very seriously,’ and then doing black face or making characters that perpetuates harmful stereotypes about Black or Asian people. If you claim to care about an issue your actions should reflect that and when they don’t people have every right to hold you accountable.

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This is a continuation of my last post about the hypocrisy of the Hazbin fandom when it comes to SA.

Sir Pentious is the biggest example of this. The show casually throws in a “joke” where he is dragged into a “sex” room against his will, clawing at the floor and repeatedly saying wait and no—clear signs of non-consent. Some fans try to justify it by pointing out that he previously fumbled his words with Cherri, saying he was “going to have sex with everyone,” but that doesn’t negate the fact that he is visibly resisting in the actual scene.

I know I might sound like a broken record since I’ve mentioned this scene before, but it still shocks me how this remains such a controversial take. Why is it that people who claim to care about these issues are so quick to dismiss it when it happens to a male character they don’t like—especially when the same show has tackled SA with a completely different tone in other contexts?

Now, you’d think a creator who claims to “care about survivors” would be more mindful of this. Instead, both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss include scenes where a character is sexually assaulted for the sake of a cheap laugh—because what is the joke if not “haha, he’s being forced into sex”?

And how do her fans react when someone points this out? That’s the easiest part. Just take a look at the lovely responses below from fans who supposedly “support SA survivors” … right up until someone dares to criticize their favorite show for using SA as a punchline.

Instead of addressing the issue, they try to justify it by saying, “Well, other shows have done it too, so it should be okay!”—as if that somehow makes it excusable. All this does is make Vivzie look worse. You can’t claim to support SA survivors and then get defensive when people point out that you’re not taking SA seriously, especially when one of the most well-known “jokes” in your work involves a character potentially being assaulted. Just because other shows, like Family Guy and South Park, make similar jokes—shows that, by the way, are regularly criticized for their offensive humor—doesn’t mean Vivzie is exempt from accountability. Deflecting criticism with “whataboutism” only highlights the refusal to engage with legitimate concerns. If you truly stand with survivors, you need to show it through your actions, not just your words.

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I cannot stress enough how hypocritical Vivziepop and a large portion of both of her fandoms are when it comes to deciding who “deserves” to be recognized as a sexual assault survivor. Vivzie has publicly stated, “I support and respect all survivors,” yet she writes scenes where characters are sexually assaulted for laughs, only treating the issue seriously when it suits her narrative.

Vivziepop: “I support all survivors!”

Also Vivziepop: Creates an entire scene where a character is forcibly dragged into a room—presumably to be sexually assaulted while visibly struggling, clawing at the floor and repeatedly saying “no,” making it absolutely clear that he wants nothing to do with it. All of this is framed as comedy, serving no purpose other than to be a cheap, tasteless joke.

The number of people defending this with “it’s meant to be funny!” is absolutely appalling and then there’s the fandom’s go-to excuse:

“Well, Sir Pentious wasn’t actually raped, so—”

SO NOTHING! Attempted rape is sexual assault. He was dragged away against his will. Sexual assault isn’t just rape—it’s any non-consensual sexual act or advance and in this case, it was absolutely sexual assault. The way people in this fandom dismiss his experience just because “it didn’t go all the way” is horrifying. Do they even understand what survivors go through? Do they realize that sexual assault encompasses so much more than just rape? What about groping? What about coercion? What about sexual harassment? Or is it just easier for them to ignore the reality because the scene was “supposed to be funny”?

That is not support. That is not respect. That is minimizing sexual violence for the sake of a cheap laugh and it’s absolutely disgusting.

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Inspired by my recent post about Kermit Peter, I present to you this poorly edited creation I made on PicsArt.

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Not a serious post today but I just had to share this—does anyone else think side-profile Peter kinda looks like Kermit the Frog? I swear it’s the nose (or lack thereof) that does it for me

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AHHHHH SHE'S MAD

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I recently browsed the Hazbin Hotel subreddit (seriously, don’t go there—it’s a minefield of die-hard defenders), and I stumbled upon a post responding to a critical take about Vivziepop’s apparent lack of attention to the broader LGBTQ+ community. The critical post raised some valid points, but the reaction from the posters was… interesting, to say the least. Here’s what they shared along with their response to it:

Critic: “Hey, maybe we should include more representation in the show since you claim to love diversity and call it a queer show! :D”

Hazbin hotel Reddit: “They’re forcing Vivzie to slap random labels on characters! It’s unrealistic to develop every character’s identity!”

Somehow, though, they conveniently overlook the fact that characters like Barbie Wire (who appeared in just one episode), Octavia (who had only two), Vassago, Mammon (who had a single episode at the time of this post), Beelzebub (one episode), and Chaz (who appeared in just one episode before presumably meeting their end) all had little to no development prior to their respective Pride Month reveals—and yet, they all had their sexualities confirmed out of the blue. In fact, Vassago’s sexuality was even revealed before his debut, all the way back when the trailer for Season 2 first dropped.

On a more serious note, if you believe that representation only “counts” when characters explicitly state their queer, trans, or otherwise marginalized identities, here’s something to consider: a character’s sexuality or gender identity doesn’t always need to be the focus of the story nor does it need to be justified. By that logic, why is Blitzo pansexual? Why is Angel gay? Why are Loona and Charlie bisexual? Why is Mammon asexual? Why is Vaggie a lesbian? These identities are just part of who they are and they don’t need to define their entire narrative. In most cases they might only be mentioned in passing or through jokes. Visibility doesn’t always require a spotlight or a deep narrative explanation, sometimes, it’s enough for it to simply exist.

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I really hate the idea of Valentino or the other V’s being redeemed. It makes far more sense for them to remain irredeemable because it would teach Charlie an essential lesson: not everyone can be saved and more importantly, not everyone wants to be. Some people genuinely enjoy being bad—Valentino, Velvette, and Vox are perfect examples. They thrive in their wickedness because it’s fun and empowering for them. For Charlie, whose entire philosophy revolves around the belief that “everyone can be redeemed,” facing people like them would force her to confront the harsh reality that her ideals have limits.

These characters are in Hell for a reason and even if their damnation was unfair, they’re still objectively awful beings in Hell. Valentino is a rapist, an abuser and a terrible boss. Vox is another manipulative, power-hungry boss who uses mind control to manipulate people and likely turns a blind eye to Valentino’s abuse of Angel Dust. Meanwhile, Velvette manufactures the date-rape drugs that Valentino uses on Angel and most likely manipulates the media to twist narratives, according to the leaks. They don’t need tragic backstories or trauma to justify their evil—they’re simply bad people by choice. And honestly, the “But they’re villains!” argument doesn’t really hold water here. Even Cannibal Town didn’t care about Charlie’s redemption plan until Alastor mentioned they could eat the angels. Sometimes, evil people just stay evil and that’s a reality that Charlie needs to face.

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Recently, I’ve received messages accusing me of lying about Alastor performing a blood sacrifice, with some pointing out that I didn’t include the footage in my original post. To clarify, I wasn’t lying—Tumblr only allows one video per post, but I do have the leaked footage to back up what I said.

The video clearly shows Alastor killing a man and using his blood in a ritual to summon Rosie, which is the blood sacrifice I referenced in my earlier post about him. Before anyone argues, “But that’s not a blood sacrifice,” let’s set the record straight: it absolutely is. A blood sacrifice involves offering blood—often through a killing—in a ritualistic context, which is exactly what happens here.

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I can’t be the only one who feels iffy about Vivziepop’s approach to ‘representation.’ To me, it feels like they’re checking off boxes instead of actually putting effort into a character, especially when you look at how almost all the gay characters in the show are portrayed as feminine, overly sexualized, extremely skinny or a mix of all three. There’s nothing wrong with any of those traits and if they make you happy, that’s great. However, when every gay character fits that same mold, it stops being true representation. Instead, it starts to feel like a stereotype rather than diversity. Sure, there are gay people who embody these traits in real life, but when a series labels itself as a “queer show,” it should aim for a broader, more nuanced portrayal.

The show has already demonstrated its ability to create a range of body types with characters like Satan, Mammon and even some background characters. If the show can represent diverse body types why not extend that same diversity to the gay characters? I’ll give Fizzarolli a bit of a pass here, though. with his robotic body he literally can’t gain weight anywhere except his stomach.

Sidenote: here’s some background character designs I love

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Welcome back to our discussion on stereotypes in Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. Today, we’re diving into why many people have issues with Alastor.

Trigger warning: Mentions of cannibalism

One of the concerns surrounding Alastor in Hazbin Hotel is his connection to voodoo, which is depicted as a sinister and dangerous practice. Many fans have pointed out that in the series, voodoo is shown in an exaggerated and frightening light. According to the Hazbin Hotel wiki, Alastor is associated with “demon magic,” and his character is often surrounded by voodoo sigils and engages in practices labeled as “blood magic.” This portrayal reinforces an outdated and harmful stereotype that ties voodoo to evil and dark forces. Below is a screenshot from the wiki that confirms Alastor’s use of blood magic which can also be seen in the show

This issue is further compounded by a recent leak from Season 2, revealing that Alastor is involved in making blood sacrifices—once again reinforcing the harmful stereotype that associates voodoo with violence and dark rituals. His involvement in this, along with his cannibalism, violence, and the use of poppet imagery, closely mirrors the historical persecution of New Orleans Voodoo. In the past, practitioners of Voodoo were falsely accused of cannibalism and blood sacrifices, and this depiction of Alastor echoes those dangerous and misleading accusations. Below, I’ll provide examples of how Voodoo practitioners have been depicted as violent in media.

Alastor’s race has become a point of controversy. Initially portrayed as a white character Vivziepop later redefined him as mixed-race following backlash. This shift when paired with his association with voodoo and violent tendencies has raised concerns that his character perpetuates problematic cultural stereotypes. The issue extends beyond Hazbin Hotel into Helluva Boss, where voodoo dolls are used in a scene meant to harm Blitzo, further linking voodoo with malevolent intentions. Below are a few examples from an article explaining how these elements can reinforce harmful stereotypes. It’s important to note that I found these connections simply by researching harmful voodoo stereotypes—something Vivziepop could have easily done, yet either overlooked or ignored.

Furthermore, Alastor’s portrayal as a Wndigo is seen by some as a form of cultural appropriation, given that the Wndigo is a figure deeply rooted in Indigenous folklore. This raises concerns about misrepresentation and the commodification of culturally significant myths. Despite the reference to “Wendigo themes,” it’s impossible to discuss these themes without directly implying that he is based on Wendigos. It’s similar to creating a character based on an oni and calling it “oni-themed”—you can’t separate the theme from the actual cultural origin without undermining its significance.

I want to clarify that I am neither Native American nor a practitioner of voodoo. However, I have encountered insights from those who practice voodoo, as well as Native American individuals, regarding Alastor’s portrayal. The points I am sharing are based on their perspectives. Their views on how these cultures are represented are crucial to consider, as they have highlighted how the portrayal can reinforce harmful stereotypes and misrepresentations.