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Is Ed the same after being resurrected? does he stuffer from any lazarus pit side effects like lazarus pit madness? Or does Ed after being relived sorta come back “wrong”
one more question if that’s okay, how did Jo find out about the lazarus pit in the first place? did Jo found out about lazarus pit himself or did someone tell him?
He does experience Lazarus madness, yes. The best way I can describe his behavior is he becomes a lot like the Arkham series Riddler. It doesn't last as long as what others would experience though. There is a comic, I'm not sure which one I can't remember, where the Riddler uses the Lazarus pit to cure himself of cancer and because of his intelligence, it does not drive him insane. So the length of the effects is based on that fact, but y'know he still died. I'm sure dying and coming back would make anyone a little kooky. Jonathan is also a big help, Ed can never overpower Jo so he's able to keep Ed in check while he's under the effects. If Ed was able to run free he'd be acting on any impulse he had with no regard for consequence and making the effects worse. This little gremlin can make a nuke if he wants, and to have no morals holding him back is bad for everyone. Jonathan is very aware of this he will do everything to one, keep him alive and two, keep Ed from doing something he'd never forgive himself for.
I'm not entirely set on how Jo finds out about the pit. For now, I'll say it's likely he and Ed have both come across rumors and hints within Gotham's history. They would not have deliberately been looking for the pit, it just merely would have come up in Ed's snooping. Neither of them would have thought about more than it being mere mythos. All that throughout searching on Ed's part is bound to dig up something about the League of Assassins (which is something of a secret society in our version). After Ed's death, Jonathan would have been desperate enough to research more for himself. There had to be some merit to it, there had to be something.
I had some unfished/conceptual sketches on hand luckily. For some context, in the first sketch, Jo has to keep tying Ed down because otherwise, he's going to escape and make a death ray or something. He also tries his best to keep things as normal as he can for both of them. The second sketch is just to show what they look like under the effects, though I'm not too sure about the placement of the white streaks.
-Fluffy
#oh no don't ask me about the angsty hypotheticals :)#Oh nooo :)#batmanfruitloops#anewgothamau#lazarus!riddler#edward nigma#riddler#the riddler#jonathan crane#scarecrow#the scarecrow#answers
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so, Amity Parkers fit in in gotham.
plus the city is so rich in ectoplasm it's almost like at home! in fact they probably only need their ecto-sups because it's so cursed.
the fear toxin works like caffeine for liminals. they found out accidentally while Wes was mid-rant and forgot his gas-mask like a dumbass he is.
Wes being Wes figured out the Bats identity in the first month since moving but he learned his lesson, kept his mouth shut and corkboard hidden safely in the realms having joined the Team Phantom a while ago.
Val visits some of her friends here sometimes, with the suit being part of her body now she's basically halfa-adjacent (she has suspicions she's one major near death experience away from actually becoming one) and she's getting major "Fuck-off it's my haunt" vibes from Crime Alley. maybe Red Hood's a ghost? not gonna check now.
Paulina is having emotions about Nightwing's ass and no one wants to hear them, curse liminal ability of ghost-speak.
all things considered? life is well. tho it might be a matter of time before the bats start getting annoying.
#dpxdc#liminal amity park#Amity Parkers in Gotham#somethin exploded on the next street just like home#Wes is addicted to fear toxin#he is also the Riddler's nightmare#the bats are concerned TM#why are these out of town people so chill in gotham??#why are they trained??#IS THAT PERSON DRINKING LAZARUS WATER????#Please do repost#damn i want to read that#feel free to use#feel free to reblog#luru's own
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Alright, since it’s no longer 2 in the morning and my head’s a bit clearer, I present to you:
Liminal Riddler
So, not everyone in the DC fandom knows about this, and I’d bet that even less people in the Phandom do, but at one point, the Riddler had cancer. Had, past-tense, because he cured it. With the Lazarus pits.
And yeah, not everyone who gets dipped in the pits has to be liminal, but one would assume that the sudden replacement of a large number of malignant cells throughout the body is gonna do something.
The Riddler already acts quite a lot like a DP ghost in some interpretations anyways. He’s got a strict gimmick that he genuinely can’t part ways with, he’s campy and fun, he’s incredibly violent, etc.
Also, the way that he would react to this whole thing would be funny as hell.
Do I think the Riddler would really care if the GiW was after him? No. This is Gotham, the government is constantly going after him anyways.
Do I think he would care if Danny was being hunted down by the same people, and his parents were involved? Somewhat. He probably wouldn’t care about Danny specifically, at least not right away, but a young boy running terrified from his own parents would definitely bring back some bad memories, and he would probably give him a hand (if for no other reason than to get back to plotting crimes instead of dealing with childhood trauma).
Do I think the Riddler, whose entire thing is being smarter than everyone else, would care if the GiW somehow let slip that they thought he didn’t have human intelligence? That they believed him to be nothing but an echo of human life?
It’s not even a question. He would be the most insufferable person in Gotham within the hour. Genuinely nothing could stop him, especially not if Danny was helping jailbreak him from Arkham every time he got caught.
Almost every major road is closed. Every warehouse on the Docks is on fire. Somehow, they managed to color the clouds and smog a bright green.
The natives of Gotham would probably get those anti-ghost laws and acts overturned faster than the Justice League, if only to make the Riddler stop. His traps and games aren’t even lethal at this point (due to Danny’s insistence), but they’re so genuinely annoying that the general population is about to beat the GiW agents to death themselves just to get the Riddler to quit it already.
Also, I think that during this whirl of chaos, the Riddler would become quite fond of Danny.
He’s a bright young boy who’s very fond of wordplay, and inventive enough to keep up with him. Aside from the inevitable crisis of “oh god I’m becoming the bat,” he’d probably be happy to take on Danny as his protégé. Even if the boy won’t let him kill anyone (rude), he’s a terrifying getaway driver and can turn the both of them invisible and intangible, making Arkham escapes a breeze.
Hell, the Riddler would probably be willing to make a false identity for the two of them, just so he could get the boy proper schooling.
(Yes, he thinks that the entire education system is a sham and that he could do much better, but Danny wants to go into aerospace engineering, and the Riddler isn’t one to squander someone’s interest in learning.)
(Also, Echo and Query would find the whole thing hilarious)
#dcxdp#dpxdc#dc x dp#dp x dc#dpxdc prompt#dc x dp prompt#liminal riddler#most annoying mf alive meets entire government agency who decides to insult him within 5 minutes of meeting him#he would rip the GiW to shreds in a week tops#also he didn’t even ask to use the Lazarus pits. very important detail#he found out he was dying and immediately broke into the LOA to dunk himself into the glowing Mountain Dew#the gamer ghost bath water if you will#sometimes a family is a pedantic asshole and his two lesbian henchmen taking care of a half-dead teenager who’s a fan of puns
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Had a vision.
#limenverse#the riddler#edward nygma#riddler#scarecrow#the scarecrow#jonathan crane#does this count as scriddler#edward looks younger than he should because he already did the whole lazarus pit thing#probably should have given both of them more grey hair but its stupid enough as it is#music meister#music meister x the riddler#i dont know what to call that
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A lesser known implication of Jason Todd having long-term/chronic/belated onset Pit Madness is Ra's al Ghul's bones being extremely breakable
#i am actually 100% serious#thinking about the implications of comic book logic is so funny#i was pondering ways to discriminate Chronic Pit Madness Compatible VS non CPMC jason and came to that conclusion#dc#dc comics#pit madness#jason todd#red hood#ra's al ghul#lazarus pit#i wonder if riddler not being sick is another point in favour of of ra's bones being brittle...#would love someone who knows a lot about brain cancer's opinion on this#wait i just realised there could be the option of the lazarus pit CHOOSING between two methods depending on context#truly fascinating
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MC Exp = Lazarus Water
Skulk Catalyst ends up in the pits of Ra's place and/or wherever else ya want and all hell breaks loose because invasive species in the LOA Base of the literall bossman
(for any readers confused, check the minecraft.wiki 's pages on Skulk Catalyst and The Warden)
((If you want you can make this D.P. as well and make it so Exp = Pit Juice = Ecto which as a whole 'nother layer to the madness))
I am vibrating, because I absolutely adore this whole idea. The chaos. The body horror. The Potential for how it could all go. Even more chaos? The whole trope of portals opening up in the Pits, but lets make it to Every Pit suddenly having a catalyst. It's not just Nanda Parbat, but there's suddenly sculk in the Alps, the Himalayas, Infinity Islands, Gotham- It's in a lot of places. And it's spreading.
Forget zombie and vampire apocalypses, it's going to be like the Quiet Place but worrying about vibrations and scent as well as sound.
And if Ectoplasm equals the same, well. I wonder if perhaps that is what forms the Wardens. Souls trapped inside, like malformed remains of cores as bodies are twisted apart into something new.
#ask answered#dcxdp#dpxdc#dc x minecraft#dp x minecraft#dcxdpxmc#If Lazarus = Exp = Ectoplasm what does that mean for those who have been in the Pits#And I'm not just talking about the Al Ghuls#Bruce has been revived in one as has Jason and Dinah (Black Canary_ & even Riddler used one to cure himself of cancer#And that's just scratching the surface#You might've just come up with a potential end of the world scenario#or at least one that would be a massive struggle to deal with#Any portals to the Zone would have to be closed- timelines & worlds quarantined less the Sculk get into there#Natural portals would still open- not enough to let the skulk enter the Infinite but definitely enough to cause it to spread More#It's not a small issue- this would be something Very Bad in this context
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I love this. Imagine the possibilities! Almost every Gothamite has slightly green eyes that change colour in your peripheral vision. The streets are a nightmare to navigate for an out-of-towner, what with all of the incredibly fast people and the fights everywhere. But soon, the longer you stay there, the more you become like them. Faster, stronger, angrier. You drive more recklessly. You subconsciously eat less, drink more. The water is what’s fueling you, not the food.
The rogues are those who were sensitive to the Lazarus effects. Maybe they were driven insane, prone to long-lasting green flashes of anger like the Joker. Or, worse, bodies gnarled and misshapen, mutants. The streets are full of them. Maybe high intelligence makes you more susceptible to it, maybe that’s why so many of the villains were geniuses (like Harley or the Riddler). Maybe strong emotions make you more susceptible, giving you abilities linked to your passions (Poison Ivy, or maybe even an alternate Catwoman, who chooses to use her powers for good?).
Does Tim sometimes jolt awake in the witching hours of the night, to the screams of the insane, to the awful thought that if his circumstances were different, he could be one of them (He has the intelligence, he has the passion, he has the neglect)? Do Jason and Damian feel less human as a result of their respective time in the Pit, wondering how close they are to becoming one of them, how little humanity they have left? Does Cass wonder if her father had given her Lazarus water and not told her, wonder if that’s why she is so fast and strong and resilient to poisons and torture alike? Does Duke wonder whether his powers truly stem from the meta gene or the horrible water that he had to drink in the Narrows, the Lazarus so much more condensed than it was in the upper class’ water? Does Steph wonder about her father, about how much of it was him and how much of it was the same water Duke had to drink (the same water she had to drink)?
I’m not sure whether this is actually readable, but I got a bit carried away with this headcannon, just because it makes so much SENSE. Thanks for reading!
I think all Gothamites can be classified as metas in some ways.
This is because of the Lazarus pit water underneath the city leaking into the normal water supply, so they all have a very watered down version of Jason's abilities.
Their injuries take less time to heal, their bones don't break as easily, and they're more resilient to most diseases and several types of poisons. The downside is the increased risk of insanity and overall lack of mental health.
It's why the shenanigans of the batclan don't surprise Gothamites, they know that at the end of the day, they'll be fine.
Gotham may take most things away from her citizens, but she still protects them in her own twisted way.
#gotham#lazarus#jason todd#cassandra cain#duke thomas#tim drake#damian wayne#stephanie brown#cluemaster#poison ivy#catwoman#the riddler#dc joker#harley quinn#headcanon
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Red Hood climbs up onto a roof with the intention of watching some drug smugglers below, only to find Robin, crouched in the perfect hiding space Jason had noticed. The boy is eating fries from a curled down Batburgers bag and sipping a Riddler Shake.
Jason: What are you doing here, Boy Wonder?
Tim: Probably the same thing you are. Spying on criminals.
Jason: ...
Tim: Want some fries? They're Jokerized, just to warn you.
Jason: Why?
Tim: Kon-El got some to try the last time he sneaked into Gotham and it turns out they're really good.
Jason: No, why would you offer me fries?
Tim: I have enough to share and I can always buy more?
Jason: Why are you being nice to me?
Tim: I'm offering fries, not a kidney. Why wouldn't I?
Jason: Because of the knife to the throat or, you know, that time I beat you within an inch of your life?
Tim: ...
Jason: ...
Tim: What the fuck was your time as Robin like?
Jason: The fuck?
Tim: A mentally unstable individual violently attacked me because he was scared or mad at Batman. That's like a bi-monthly occurrence for me, minimum. At least you were really insane and want to get better now-
Jason: I never said I wanted to stop killing.
Tim: I said get better. You want to be in control of yourself instead of being all Lazarus crazy, right?
Jason: Yes. But that doesn't mean I won't kill.
Tim: That's still wanting to get better. You think half the rouges who rotate through Arkham are actually trying to get better by even that much?
Jason: No.
Tim: Me, either. So that makes you an improvement over the usual. Plus, you know, the trauma from being murdered and all.
Jason: That's not an excuse to attack a kid.
Tim: No, but it's an explanation, which, again, is better than the usual. And you're showing signs of genuine remorse. That's huge around here. How often do we get that?
Jason: Anyone ever tell you your standards are kinda fucked up?
Tim: They'd have to pay closer attention for that.
Jason: Fucking what?
Tim: Doesn't matter. It's not like you're going to talk to anyone and even if you did, who'd believe you?
Jason: ...
Tim: So, you want some fries?
Jason: Yeah, sure.
Jason: These are good.
Tim: Right?
Jason: Is this nori?
Tim: Uh-huh; with paprika, kosher salt, and msg. I think there might be something else in there, but I haven't been able to place it.
Jason: Potato starch.
Tim: Oh, that makes sense.
Jason: I am definitely Jokerizing my fries from now on.
Tim: Try them with the Riddler Shake, too. The mint really compliments them.
Jason: I'll do that.
Tim: Wait. Doesn't that guy work for Black Mask?
Jason: Yes, he does.
Tim: So...want to pull a World's Finest?
Jason: A what?
Tim: You know, a team-up?
Jason: You-? Fucking- You know what? Sure. Let's pull a World's Finest. *under his breath* Little freak.
#dc#comics#funny#ficlet#fanfiction#bat family#bat brothers#batpups#Jason Todd#Tim Drake#Tim Wayne#Red Hood#Robin
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For the bats, it didn't start with a boy. It didn't start with a scared, bruised, and bloody boy seeking their help on patrol. It didn't start with bumping randomly into a clone of one or the other Wayne boy on the street.
It started slowly, after an Arkahm outbreak.
Some rogues didn't turn up even after a while.
Twoface, Clayface.
The Bats hoped, Hoped they were taking a break and not planning something together.
Other people turned Up. Men and women in white suits. They seemed to be looking for something. Or someone.
Then other rogues vanished.
Killer Croc, Mr. Freeze.
It came to a head when Red Hood witnessed Riddler being kidnapped by the Guys in White.
He was actually in a fight with Scarecrow at that moment as a Lazarus green beam shot out of an ally a block away. A second later he heard Riddler's pained cry and saw the man flying out of the ally and onto the street. His side was smoldering, clearly having been hit by the beam and Riddler had a little trouble getting to his feet. Unfortunately for him, two men in white used the moment to stun him with a Taser, put him in a collar that was also attached to handcuffs, and shoved him into a white van that followed the men out of the ally.
Hood didn't quite believe what he just saw. He questioned the filter of his helmet when Scarecrow offered his help on fighting the people in White.
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#bro this is so fucking cool im so sorry I didn't respond to it in writing I just didnt want to meddle with the fucking BEAUTY of this ask!#HOLY SHIT its SO cool! having the rogues gallery slowly get picked off one at a time knowing that you'll potentially be next???#that's some GOOD shit right there#dpxdc#bones replies
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Hey if the Lazarus Pit can cure brain cancer which apparently Hush "greatest surgeon in the world" wasn't able to fix, (he diagnosed Riddler as Terminal) how the FUCK is Hush supposedly able to fix Jason's "severe brain trauma" that the LAZARUS PIT couldn't fix????
#jason todd#hush 2 spoilers#Hush 2#comic spoilers#Inconsistent ass bullshit. And I'm just using THE SAME WRITER as reference#EDIT: Further explanation in the replies#It's also worth noting the Pits/Lazarus Resin in Prime Earth#Can be generally seen to be MORE POTENT than New Earth Pits
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DCxDP as Brooklyn 99 Characters
This is Tim x Danny because I think it fits best if the character were like this more or less, there are situations where it changes
Also Danny knows about the bats and occasionally helps on a case. Not every convo is exactly the same as in the series.
English is not my first language
Captain Raymond Holt - Batman
Kevin costner - Selina or Clark
Sargent Terry Jeffords - Dick Grayson
Rosa Diaz / Adrian Pemento - Jason Todd
Amy Santiago - Tim Drake
Gina Linetti - Damian Wayne (mainly because Gina is mean to Amy most of the time and would be funny dynamic, also it‘s not that serious)
Jake Peralta - Danny Fenton
I was not sure who to pick for Dick because I think he would kinda also work for Jake but Tim is Amy so it doesn’t work. And for Jason I thought it would be really funny if when he is calm and collected he is more like Rosa and if he has the pit rage he is more like when adrian was there the first time and threatened Jake but in that moment it would be changed that it would be Tim or something.
Mainly thought of this because of these two interactions
Danny: No issues here, we never even had a fight.
Tim: It‘s true, our only close call was when Danny didn‘t know who Edward Nygma was.
Batman: Really? Never heard of the Riddler. (To Tim) This is who you want to be with?… I shouldn‘t get involved. Good luck with the case.
And
Jason just got back and he is still fighting with the pit rage, sits at Tims workstation and looks for something
Tim: Is that Jason „Second Robin aka Red Hood“ Todd?
Dick: Yeah he just started to be around more.
Tim walks to Jason and puts a Hand on his shoulder: Hey, excuse me Jason those are my files on my desk.
Jason grabs his hand and puts a knife to his throat.
Dick: Woah, woah let‘s calm down and drip the weapon.
Batman: Kids meet Jason or Red Hood. He‘s been with the league of Assassins for a year and then acted as a crime lord for a year and a half. He‘s been dealing with the lazarus pits and has been doing better at controlling it and he is joining us on patrols.
Tim still with a knife at his throat: That is… awesome!
If I think of another conversation that this or a similar dynamic works I‘ll try to remember to post it
#dpxdc#danny fenton#tim drake#jason todd#dick grayson#batman#crossover#brooklyn nine nine#conversation#jake peralta#amy santiago
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[tw: mild violence mentioned, dirty jokes]
Edward Nygma | The Riddler I see. My condolences. Ah yes, the good old dip into Ra's'es jaccuzi. Does feel quite refreshing, doesn't it?
Jonathan Crane | The Scarecrow Mmh, but tha real question ta be asked 'ere: What kind o' madness-infused delusion did ya take outta there with ya?
Edward Nygma | The Riddler Uuuh, yes, that would actually interest me as well. See, I gained an intelligence-boost to my already brilliant mind, quite literally rendering me super-intelligent - being so smart, it exceeds the boundaries of a human being. Oh, and Jonathan turned into an absolute megalomaniac with the sudden gust of strategic brilliance. I suppose for the both of us, it simply amplified what was already there.
Jonathan Crane | The Scarecrow Beyond rational reasonin'.
Edward Nygma | The Riddler Oh, and the answer to your riddle is emotions or feelings. They can't be seen, but you can "feel" touched. They can feel tight in your chest, but can't be held. And they can come across as cold, even if coming from a warm place, as they are commonly associated with the heart. And no, it's not the heart itself, since that indeed can be seen and held when you cut somebody open. You know, I would appreaciate something more uhm creative. And that's targeted at anyone thinking of asking me a riddle. All those mind-, heart-, love-riddles-- Look, they're cute and all, some pretty classic, don't get me wrong. But I've been asked those a thousand times. Yes, yes, I know, it's quite difficult getting anywhere near my level, but you can at least try.
Jonathan Crane starts to chuckle in the background.
Edward Nygma | The Riddler What's so funny?
Jonathan Crane | The Scarecrow Hehehe- Hya- Ya wanna hear an alternative answer ta that? Heh it's- it's yer asshole. Ya can touch it, but naht see it yerself, can be tight, but naht be held, n' feel cold if ya blow on it, even if it's always warm inside-- Eeeehehehe!
Jonathan continues to chuckle, which evolves into laughter when he sees the look Edward gives him.
Edward Nygma | The Riddler Can't keep your mind out of the gutter, can you?
Jonathan tries to catch his breath to answer, but breaks out into laughter again, dropping sideways onto the couch.
Edward Nygma | The Riddler Well, until Jon returns to being responsive, riddle me this then: In what way did your mind shift, when you emerged from the Lazarus pit?
What is something that you have but you can't touch, you can change whenever you want and you use everyday but have never seen me. What am I?
Edward Nygma | The Riddler This is at the top of my inbox, but you know me - a compulsion is a compulsion. And this one's just too easy. It's the mind. You have it, can't touch it, you can change your mind at any point, hopefully use it every day, but can't see it, well, without superpowers you can't. You wanna know an alternative answer to this, Jon?
Jonathan Crane | The Scarecrow Hm? Ah, no, naht really--
Edward Nygma | The Riddler Your sleep schedule.
Jonathan Crane | The Scarecrow My... Oh, haa-fuckin'-haa, Ed.
Edward grins and scrolls down to the next message.
Edward Nygma | The Riddler You know, technically, it could also be your pulse.
Jonathan Crane | The Scarecrow Ugh, please stop askin' him riddles. Ya don't know this, but off-camera, he'll keep comin' up with more answers to tha same question. All. Day. Loung.
Edward Nygma | The Riddler Wait, hold on, your name is Jayne Todd? What, are you Jason's daughter? Did I miss something? No, impossible, perhaps an alternative universe version, we've got so many of those, as of late.
Jonathan Crane | The Scarecrow Right, because nuthin' can escape yer stalkin' hobby.
Edward Nygma | The Riddler Well, of course it doesn't. How else am I supposed to keep myself occupied, these days? Jason is especially fun to spy on, not much going on in that thick head of his, and it shows, ahahaha!
Jonathan Crane | The Scarecrow ... That wus sarcasm.
Edward Nygma | The Riddler Oh, I know it was. I am simply choosing to ignore it.
Jonathan just grunts, taking a sip from his coffee.
#ask the riddler#batman#dc#rp#in character#edward nygma#riddler#the riddler#jonathan crane#scarecrow#the scarecrow#lazarus pit#ra's al ghul#jayne todd#oc#scriddler#jon's humor is now low-level dirty-minded not-even-that-funny humor in my canon#goes well with ed's - in his opinion - very high level multi-tiered humor that mostly nobody but him understands#bc you'd need to have read a huge amount of books about all kinds of things to get it or something#and Jon does understand Ed's jokes but doesn't find them funny#yes perfect
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My very personal rating of every lazarus pit fanon side effects I've ever read, ranked from favourite to least favourite :
Tapetum lucidum (the thing cats have that makes their eyes gleam in the dark): that's so creepy and cool, eery in a more discreet way than a full-on glow, idk who hced that first but they are a genius
Contaminated blood laced with the lazarus protein: because our blood renews itself pretty often, this implies the existence of either a lazarus organ that continues to pump the lazarus protein in the blood, or, more probably, the contamination of one of the blood producing organs, maybe of the bone marrow, by the Lazarus pit. Like imagine the Lazarus Pit changing you down to the inside of your bone... The implications are so fascinating I'd love to read more about it.
Altered dna: this doesn't make sense, how does the magical healing pit change your dna, I love it so much, tell me more about the magic gatorade that rewrites dna
Accelerated healing/enhancements: what's funnier, that the pit gave Jason metahuman abilities like being able to withstand a meteorite and going toe-to-toe with Deathstroke (the wiki's words, not mine) and it was just never discussed, or that nothing Jason went through gave him these abilities that he really shouldn't have and he still does and it was just never discussed? I don't know but still, that stuff is top-tier
Glowing green eyes: on the one hand, eyes that glow when the person is feeling intense negative emotions (even better it's not just rage, like, imagine having a flashback or nightmare or getting fear toxined and their eyes glow and people think they're about to attack but they just scream that'd be so cool) but on the other hand, I feel like the colour is too limiting. Sure, Ra's or Riddler can fuck with the glowing green but come on, my girl Cass deserves eyes that glow gold (like the gold from the Batgirl suit). Jason deserves to have glowing red eyes. Cicero says that eyes are the reflection of the soul and while I love the idea of the lazarus pit being toxic, contaminating a part of the person's soul, in comics, a character's colour scheme is an essential part of their graphic identity, and I think altering it to the point of giving it a totally different colour is too much for my taste personally. Like, you are still the same person that you were before the bad thing happened. Yes, it changed you irrevocably, but you are still yourself and you should still have the right to your name and to the colour of your soul.
Lazarus Rage/Pit Madness: so I've seen this one criticized pretty often, often because of how unnecessary, and honestly probably damaging, to the understanding of Jason's character after his resurrection. And like, I agree, but also I've found myself to enjoy the fanon version of the Batfam. Like, I don't like that it's murky and confusing sometimes to figure out which is fanon or canon and that that leads people to judging canon actions from a standard of fanon information, and parts of it can be sexist or racist or classist, but the same can be said from canon, you have to be critical with what you consume. Basically to me there are two batfams and I consume both differently and enjoy both, and in the context of fanon I enjoy Pit Madness. The idea of uncontrollable, alien rage is fun, is angsty, and as someone with intense anger issues I'm telling you writing a lazarus rage episode was one of the most cathartic things I've ever written and it felt so good. I also think part of the upset on the subject is a bit undeserved because I see people complain that "the lazarus doesn't work like that because it didn't do that to other people" as if the way the lazarus pit worked made any sense. You're telling me this stuff healed Jason's malnutrition but it didn't fix his trauma? That it healed the Riddler's brain cancer but couldn't be bothered to fuck with Jason's hypertrophied amygdala and the fucked up connections between his amygdala and hippocampus??! Obviously we can't expect dc to know or care about science that much , but I still have the right to be nerdy about it. Jason went into the pit resurrected by God and with brain damage and Ra's said it was a plague and that could make him crazy, I fully believe he could have gotten Pit Madness even if the others hadn't.
Eye-colour change: that's the same thing as the glowing part but without the fun part, really dislike it. I need to be able to listen to I know these eyes/this man is dead from the Count of MonteCristo Musical while making up Under the Red Hood edits in my head please and thank you
Lazarus Pit brings people back to life: I hate it so much dc stop treating life and death so inconsequentially oh my gosh characters fighting life and death situations should not have a source of immortality right in hand I hate that lazarus resin lazarus toxin stuff they have right now and the idea that the pits can bring back to life plays into that idea so I really dislike it. I understand the appeal, it's the basics of coming back wrong with a side of rebirth in the water but instead of being purified it's being poisoned, but I just can't get over how frustrating it is to see a beloved character die and only be able to say I hope he doesn't come back for his own sake and then he comes back. Urgh.
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Parker Luck
by DrAllenKel Peter is sent to DC after Doctor Stranges spell explodes basically killing Peter. Peter ends up being revived by a Lazarus Pit and found by the Batfamily due to an alert about their being a spike of radiation in the area. How will Peter come to terms that he can no longer go home and that he must find out how he's going to live in this new universe. (I'm not good at summaries but I hope this gets yall's attention!) Words: 2525, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Fandoms: DCU (Comics), DCU, Marvel Cinematic Universe, Spider-Man - All Media Types, Batman - All Media Types, Spider-Man (Tom Holland Movies) Rating: General Audiences Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Categories: F/F, F/M, Gen, M/M, Multi Characters: Peter Parker, Dick Grayson, Damien Wayne, Time Drake, Duke Thomas, Cassandra Cain, Stephannie Brown, Bruce Wayne, Harley Quinzel, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Joker, Scarecrow, Black Mask, Jason Todd, Batman, Robin, RedRobin, redhood, Nightwing, Signal, Spoiler, Black Bat, Riddler, Firefly - Character, Spider-Man Relationships: Peter Parker & Bruce Wayne, Tim Drake (DCU) & Peter Parker, Stephanie Brown & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Duke Thomas, Dick Grayson & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Jason Todd, Cassandra Cain & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Damian Wayne, Batfamily Members (DCU) & Peter Parker Additional Tags: Peter is a short king, De-Aged Peter Parker, Lazarus Pit, Peter Parker Low Iron issues, Peter Parker still technically has asthma, Protective Batfamily, Good Parent Bruce Wayne, Peter Parker goes to DC, Peter is more spidery, Peter has fangs, Peter Parker has Spinnerets | Organic Web-Shooters via https://ift.tt/EnjVaoe
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Now who do you think is the weakest riddler?
(would Lego riddler count?)
Lego Riddler will be judged on his proportional strength to Other Legos to keep it completely fair, just like I kept magic and non-magic separated! Lego would be pretty average, all Lego People have like. Comedy Strength, he could lift a house if he wanted if the joke allowed for it so he's kind of a Cartoon Nebulous Thing
Probably that one that's all fucked up and shriveled and his spine is in the shape of a question mark, but since he's. Wrong and I don't like him I'm going to talk about other ones I Want to talk about
Obvious one to bring up, Sale Riddler. he's the size of Kristen Chenowith, he could play Glinda in Wicked if he weren't so green. I'm tempted to give him the title without even giving it another thought, but we have more. Hush Riddler BEFORE the Lazarus Pit is also a solid answer. Not only is he REAL scrawny from what we see of Clayface in his form, he also actively had brain cancer, so. idk I feel like he's not doing too great. And ofc there's any Older ones (but Telltale kinda fucks that up, 60 year old bitch can put up a fight).
I think I'm gonna throw it on Sale. While he gets away with a LOT by being a lil sneak, he's. like the size of a medium dog, he's Gone man
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Do… Do you hate the original Hush run?
nahhh i just think its really mediocre and overrated. the riddler twist is not well implemented especially and imo relies too much on subverting the reader's meta expectations' instead of actually being a properly set-up answer to the mystery (the fact that he got brain cancer and somehow bathed in lazarus completely off-screen is a quite frankly insane story-telling choice 😭). i kind of hate hush as in tommy elliot though. he's so nothing to me
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