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I should be paid every time I see a homophobic SEGA fan I think
-Icarus
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I'm frothing at the mouth. This is... how? I could imagine if Shadow was constantly in the shadows (heh) but I swear to GOD he was out in the open at one point. Also???? the shape of his quills are so much more different than mine? How.
-Icarus
Me: *watching Sonic X*
Icarus: *having a heart attack* WHAT DO YOU MEAN, 'Sonic broke into the building'???? THAT'S NOT ME, YOU IDIOTS!!! MY QUILLS ARE BLUE???
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we have blocked the tags, hopefully that helps reduce the amount of ship content!
-Icarus
what is with sonic tags and being filled to the brim with ship content? this is super fucking bad. yeah, yeah, fandom spaces whatever, but it's actually EVERYWHERE! why is ship content seemingly at the forefront of everything this godforsaken fandom produces???
-Icarus/Sonic
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you must understand, we wouldn't say anything if it wasn't such a... prevalent occurrence. It happens with the 'infinite the jackal' tag, as well.
-Infinite
what is with sonic tags and being filled to the brim with ship content? this is super fucking bad. yeah, yeah, fandom spaces whatever, but it's actually EVERYWHERE! why is ship content seemingly at the forefront of everything this godforsaken fandom produces???
-Icarus/Sonic
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what is with sonic tags and being filled to the brim with ship content? this is super fucking bad. yeah, yeah, fandom spaces whatever, but it's actually EVERYWHERE! why is ship content seemingly at the forefront of everything this godforsaken fandom produces???
-Icarus/Sonic
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I love how people got tilted over this post lmfao. 'endos fuck off' they say as they insert themselves into a space that's likely to have endos. 馃拃 follow your own DNI dumbass
-Adam
made some angry little user boxes >:)
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I already do talk like this, what are you talking about?
what if he spoke like this from now on
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i would like to say something as the mentioned shadow fictive. it's uncalled for to force views on a character, because you are also forcing anyone who actually exists as said character to agree with you. i'd rather not have my name brought up in an argument for that reason at all, but that's just me as an individual.
every time I get harassed by somebody's followers for something, there's always somebody who says 'Shadow wouldn't say this shit' or something. Is that the best argument you have, forcing your views on a fictional character? I get it, seeing somebody with a profile picture and differing opinions can be upsetting. I've gotten angry because of somebody pretending to be truscum Sonic as I find it insulting that a character all about freedom and rejecting authority would be used for such bullshit. But at least where I'll get upset from faulty representation of a character in the name of bigotry these people get mad at me for having a Shadow pfp because I... support xenogenders or think misandry is real.
Again, I get it, you're upset because I have a Shadow profile picture and you don't agree with my opinions of men facing issues or xenogenders and mspec lesbians or something being valid (which is fucking wack of you by the way), but the character in my pfp is literally a fictional character. You don't know what he would think or say because in the case of the character, he doesn't exist. Even if you had a fictive of the character on your side, you don't know what the character itself thinks; you only know what that particular instance thinks. And, funnily enough, we happen to have a Shadow fictive who agrees with my views, but you don't see me being like 'well I know what the character thinks because the individual Shadow The Hedgehog I share a brain with told me what HE thinks' because that's obnoxious.
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We have a few people like this, including myself. I dunno man I just don't like speaking and then someone goes "HOLY SHIT SONIC THE HEDGEHOG????!1!1"
This alter is aware of their source, please don't bring it up as a way to invalidate them. 馃檹鉂わ笍
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It's really unfortunate what you've endured these past few days, Salem.. I know it's not my fault, but I sympathize, and want you to know that you aren't alone in this. This 'love loses' crowd will have to go through us, as well. Surely, the fad of punching down will fade eventually..
If the "Love Loses" crowd would understand I don't have "discomfort" with the phrase, I have ACTUAL ROMANTIC AND SEXUAL TRAUMA with the phrase, that would be great.
Quit dumbing down abuse and trauma to "discomfort".
"Love Loses" pushed me away from asexual and had me use bisexual. "Love Loses" pushed me away from the aromantic, and I settled on Biromantic. "Love Loses" actively pushed me into being sexually abused and romantically abused, because I wasn't "Aro/Ace enough, so I needed to prove I was Allo". I got guilted into sending nudes and exploiting myself many times.
That is not DISCOMFORT. That is ABUSE AND TRAUMA. Quit dumbing it down.
"I saw their responses and I don't agree just because they're uncomfortable with it" Yeah, no. You did not see why I was "uncomfortable" with it. You did not see my "Exclusionism almost destroyed my 10 year relationship" post. You did not see my trauma.
Quit assuming my trauma is simply "discomfort".
Salem, signing off.
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Love won, when people still proudly fly confederate flags above their houses?
when the littlest things tear the queer community apart?
when gay marriage is still illegal in most of the world?
when being gay is still punishable by death in some places, and queer murders are covered up in places where it isn't?
"Love already won!!!!"
Oh? Really now? Love won?
Love won when, where I live, women get dirty looks for having short hair and wearing pants?
Love won when, where I live, every church in my area has protections so they can refuse marriage to gay couples?
Love won when, where I live, churches are in control of hospitals and can refuse care for LGBTQ+ people?
Love won when, where I live, HRT has been borderline outlawed?
Love won when, where I live, I live in fear of being outed as trans?
Love won when, where I live, I see people parade around swastika tattoos?
Love won when, where I live, I can be killed and it will be covered up?
Love won when, in the USA, people can still be killed and it will be covered up and never talked about again by the larger public?
Love already won, so you can say "love loses" to the people still struggling to keep their rights? Love already won, so you can say "love loses" to the community that's being killed at this moment? Love already won, so you can say "love loses" over the corpses who fought for your rights and died so you can spit on them?
Love already won, after all. There's no need for "Love wins" anymore.
Salem, signing off.
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*sigh* Alright. I must address the fiasco that has been going on lately.
To summarize, a friend of ours made a post calling out the harmful nature of the 'love loses' phrase, and started getting hate for it. A larger creator (the coiner of Unitypunk to be exact), was one of the people who got their panties in a twist about this post. Icarus saw this and, since the maker of the original post is our friend, got upset and took it upon himself to stand up against the mindless hate drone that showed up on our friend's blog. This caused the person, who we will identify as @/xxlovelynovaxx, to go off on Icarus, as well. This ended in us getting blocked. They blocked us, because they are so genuinely livid about someone calling out the bullshit phrase they put on a pedestal.
Now, this is so petty and childish that I wasn't going to get involved, but we have since learned they are cyberstalking a system within our circle. This is a huge claim, I know, but rest assured that we are not pulling this out of our ass:
Here is a post detailing the situation further (link)
And just going on Nova's blog will show you all you need. They feature screenshots of Anarchy's tagging system during their public tantrum (we know this, because Anarchy has been notified by someone who remains unblocked). Nova is/was actively lurking on a blog they blocked over petty shit, and perhaps they are doing that with us, as well.
Now, this isn't a call to get them deplatformed (though I am of the opinion that someone so childish should not have any leverage in communities), nor is it a call for mass reporting. It is, rather, a need to bring their behavior to light for what it is: harassment. This anger towards being told 'love loses is harmful' is completely childish, and they are making people feel unsafe in their own spaces due to their need to die on the 'love loses uwu' hill. That is absolutely unacceptable.
That is all, for now. No doubt this post may make a debut on their blog, if my theory is correct and they are also lurking on our blog as well.
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Uhh man? I think you missed the point of the entire post in your need to vehemently die on this hill.
"Love" already won! Amatonormativity is a foundation of queer oppression, including that of non-aspec people, because it demands partnerships for procreative and nuclear-family-producing purposes! It'd actually be really nice if LIBERATION could win and love could just sit this fucking one out!
Sorry to break it to ya pal, but that isn't love winning. That is straight up bigotry! Do you even know why queer people use the phrase 'love wins' to begin with?
"How dare you loveless love repulsed freaks ruin it for all us lovequeers who still find some assimilation in expressing that actually we still feel love just not romantic love".
Now you are literally putting words into people's mouths. Maybe it's easier for us because we know the person you're actively attacking for no reason, but seeing the actual drive and intention behind the fucking post isn't that difficult. You just can't handle the fact that your edgy 'love loses' isn't as progressive as you think it is.
Not to mention you are being a massive hypocrite by being mad at the catch phrases that weren't even made for you, if you want to so adamantly scream that 'love loses' just isn't for some people.
How about "War Loses". How about "Hate Loses". How about "Oppression Loses". How about "Peace Wins". How about "Acceptance Wins". How about "Liberation Wins."
These are good alternatives! But guess what, some people may want to use the other terms that set YOU off. And no that doesn't victimize you as much as you think it does, not everything is trying to erase loveless and other aspec people, please shut up.
(none of this is aimed at weirdcore-catbxy)
This is the biggest bunch of bullshit we've ever seen, and the vast majority of us are lovequeer.
"How dare you loveless love repulsed freaks ruin it for all us lovequeers who still find some assimilation in expressing that actually we still feel love just not romantic love".
Yeah it's not as if some people actually don't feel love and are treated as monsters for it. It's not as if we are constantly told "love is what makes us human" and similar. It's not as if love is the standard to which we are held to see if we're worthy of being treated with basic human decency, compassion, and respect. /s /s /s /s /s
And for that matter, what about us aplatonics and afamilials? What about all the other anattractional people? What about those that face an intersection of aphobia and neuroableism? What about every single other person who is not queer for who they love - the Ts, the Is, the NBs, the GQs, the 2S - for that matter, to an extent even the polyamorous people because it's not about who we love exactly but how?!
You can fight for goddamned peace and no war without love. You can do it because it's the right thing to do. Love doesn't make you good, actions do. My abuser did what they did out of love. I care for most of my friends because it's the right thing to do, and because I feel good about myself if I make them happy.
"Love Can Win Without Me"?! How about you let loveless and romance repulsed and any other aros have one thing rejecting love for once before shoving their face under the toilet waters of "you have to support us even if we don't do the same for you" again and flushing?
Godsdamn, we're demigrey and FEEL love and this is some real kicking the ladder behind you assimilationist BULLSHIT. "Love" already won! Amatonormativity is a foundation of queer oppression, including that of non-aspec people, because it demands partnerships for procreative and nuclear-family-producing purposes! It'd actually be really nice if LIBERATION could win and love could just sit this fucking one out!
"Love Can Still Win Asshole" oh so now you're just straight up punching over at other aspec people. Real cute. /s
"We Win With Platonic Love" Oh and now just fully throwing loveless and aplatonic people under the bus, go fuck yourself.
How about "War Loses". How about "Hate Loses". How about "Oppression Loses". How about "Peace Wins". How about "Acceptance Wins". How about "Liberation Wins."
You don't need your bullshit fucking slogan about "love wins". Literally nothing about "love loses" is harming the community, you sound like a 2012 ace discourser. There's more than enough space for "love is love" and "love wins" anyway. You're taking all the air from the room to shout those slogans and leaving the rest of us gasping. No one even is taking them from you - they just don't want them to be the face of a pride that is for more than just LGBPs.
Also, love loses is not for you. It's for us. So we're not taking anything, but you damn sure are trying to. You don't have to personally like it, but you can damn sure shut up about your "ackshually love wins ennnnnyweyyyy" whining.
While we have loveless headmates, like I said, most of us are lovequeer. And we've criticized other community discourse before from both loveless and lovequeer people. But we'll join the loveless ones on this and shout from the rooftops:
Love Loses
(plaintext: love loses)
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First of all, fuck you anon. 'Erm actually you're the one throwing your community under the bus' yeah man, because calling out the bullshit in the aroace community with the love loses thing is DEFINITELY throwing everyone in it under the bus (/sarcasm). 'This isn't a safe space for all aspecs!!' you cannot just say that because you can't practice reading comprehension for once in your life (and we're gonna just assume you're conflating aspec with aroace, which is an honest mistake, and not actually getting mad at OP for not catering to the actual entirety of the aspec community as an aroace safe space).
Repeatedly, OP has expressed his issues with the exclusion HE and his partners face and how the blog they all created together was meant to combat that. And here you are getting on his ass about having an issue with people taking a HISTORICAL PHRASE and twisting it into some fucking gotcha against the icky love feelers? Not cool man, not cool at all.
You're the one throwing your community under the bus. Queer people should not be held responsible for what bigots do with our words, they should be. This is not a safe space for all aspecs if it is not safe for loveless aromantics.
"LOVE CAN WIN WITHOUT ME" and "LOVE WINS EVEN IF I DON'T FEEL ROMANTIC ATTRACTION" are two sentiments that have been stated on this blog by two of the mods. I AM a Loveless RomoAro. They are better alternatives to "LOVE LOSES".
Also, this is an AroAce blog, not Aspec blog. AroAce is Aspec but Aspec is not inherently AroAce. I speak exclusively on AroAce topics, not Aspec.
Again, I'm not going to let exclusionist rhetoric and love negativity invade this community more so than it already has. Aros who like romance in any fucking capacity SHOULD be able to go into the community tags without constantly seeing "LOVE LOSES" "LOVE SUCKS" "LOVE IS THE WORST" and Loveless, Romance repulsed Aros with no relationships and no interests in relationships should not be seen as the ONLY Aros.
If your reaction to seeing other Aros fighting back against the exclusionism within the community, ask yourself WHY you feel threatened by the presence of Aros who do NOT fit your mold of Aromantic.
I, and the other mods, are SICK of being excluded by the larger community. AROS WHO LIKE ROMANCE EXIST.
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As a more 'canon convergent' Alastor fictive, I agree wholeheartedly with you! Aroace community: do better with your treatment of fictives! Stop getting your panties in a twist over fictional works that you, yourself, don't like! Let people exist!
So Ladies and Gentlemen! I have another rather deer to my heart as both a fictive of Alastor and an AroAce being with canon divergent exceptions to my attraction!
Aroace community this mostly is for you. Please listen to the voices of fictives on shipping. Yes canon may be totally repulsed but fictives can't control our attractions. We are formed that way. Are we not allowed to enjoy content of our canon selves at all if we don't match canon on a one to one basis to you? I personally think we should be allowed to enjoy that content. I personally think Allos should be allowed to make that content evem if it is for themselves it can be enjoyed by fictives or other aroaces who do enjoy romance or sex in fiction.
Please stop trying to police fandom spaces when it comes to a characters sexuality. It makes us look like controlling abusive people. Canon still exists. Canon can still representative of aroace people that's not changing.
And another thing ladies, gents and all beings in between. Just because you are a sex/romance repulsed aroace does not mean ALL aroace people are sex/romance repulsed! Quit villainizing those of use who aren't sex/romance repulsed and lumping us in with allos! It does nothing for our in shambles community!
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