#24th century BC

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The Cult of Horus: Myths That Stretch From Egypt To Rome | Ancient Origins

Author’s Note: The word ‘cult’ has had different meanings & connotations throughout the centuries. Today, it means something that is bad or negative. However, in the ancient world, it meant something completely different. https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends-asia/cult-horus-0014076

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The bronze head known as 'Sargon of Akkad' is a masterpiece of Assyrian sculpture dating to the 24th century BC. It depicts an Assyrian ruler, possibly Sargon I, one of the earliest kings of the Assyrian Empire.

La cabeza de bronce conocida como "Sargón de Acad" es una obra maestra de la escultura asiria que data del siglo XXIV a.C. y representa a un gobernante asirio, posiblemente Sargón I, uno de los primeros reyes del Imperio Asirio.

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Origen y descubrimiento: La cabeza de bronce de "Sargón de Acad" fue descubierta en 1976 en la ciudad de Acad, una antigua ciudad asiria ubicada en lo que hoy es Iraq. Fue encontrada en las ruinas de un palacio durante excavaciones arqueológicas dirigidas por el arqueólogo iraquí Tariq Madhloom.

Fecha y contexto: Se cree que la cabeza de bronce data del período acadense, alrededor del siglo XXIV a.C. Durante este tiempo, Acad era una de las principales ciudades del Imperio Asirio, y la escultura refleja el estilo artístico de esa época.

Identificación: Aunque la identidad exacta del gobernante representado en la cabeza de bronce no está confirmada, se ha sugerido que podría ser Sargón I, un rey asirio que vivió alrededor del siglo XXIV a.C. Sin embargo, esta identificación no es definitiva y sigue siendo objeto de debate entre los expertos.

Importancia histórica y cultural: La cabeza de bronce de "Sargón de Acad" es una pieza invaluable de la historia y el arte asirio. Representa una época importante en el desarrollo del Imperio Asirio y proporciona información valiosa sobre el arte y la cultura de la región en ese período. Además, la cabeza de bronce es un testimonio del alto nivel de habilidad artística y técnica alcanzado por los escultores asirios hace más de 4000 años.

Fuente: Descubriendo el pasado en facebook.

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Origin and discovery: The bronze head of 'Sargon of Akkad' was discovered in 1976 in the city of Akkad, an ancient Assyrian city in present-day Iraq. It was found in the ruins of a palace during archaeological excavations led by Iraqi archaeologist Tariq Madhloom.

Date and context: The bronze head is thought to date to the Akkadian period, around the 24th century BC. During this time Akkad was one of the major cities of the Assyrian Empire, and the sculpture reflects the artistic style of the period.

Identification: Although the exact identity of the ruler depicted on the bronze head is not confirmed, it has been suggested that he may be Sargon I, an Assyrian king who lived around the 24th century BC. However, this identification is not definitive and remains the subject of debate among scholars.Identification: Although the exact identity of the ruler depicted on the bronze head is not confirmed, it has been suggested that he may be Sargon I, an Assyrian king who lived around the 24th century BC. However, this identification is not definitive and is still under discussion among experts.

Historical and cultural significance: The bronze head of 'Sargon of Akkad' is an invaluable piece of Assyrian history and art. It represents an important period in the development of the Assyrian Empire and provides valuable information about the art and culture of the region at that time. In addition, the bronze head is a testimony to the high level of artistic and technical skill achieved by Assyrian sculptors more than 4,000 years ago.

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Wreck of a lime tree dugout from the 24th - 23rd century BC found in Lake Constance in 2018

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Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss <3

[lunarkords]

sleep deprived and binge watching lower decks. this is bad.

[roseandgold137]

Also though,

Janet Drake for the headcannon ask?

I have indeed forgotten the specific questions to this ask game HOWEVER. I can always offer more Janet headcanons even if they’re horrendously late

Picks up languages insanely well, is fluent in English, French, Spanish, Latin, Japanese, Cantonese, and Standard Arabic, amongst others (+she learnt Greek for Helena when she was deciding where to specialise in) - also related to that is another bit, but I’ll put that under the cut bc it’ll be kind of a spoiler for an upcoming eggd spinoff

helena helped her bleach her hair in the school bathrooms

while she wasn’t incredibly well off growing up, her mum did know a lot of people, so she got lessons in horse riding, fencing, and gymnastics

she was a competitive swimmer up until fifteen when it started to clash with her riding lessons, but she kept it up casually

jack’s sweaters would go missing a lot in highschool. On an unrelated note, Janet had a section of her wardrobe dedicated just to sweaters

in kindergarten the teachers were worried she was deaf but turns out she just wasn’t interested in speaking or listening to anyone bc she mostly spoke French at home and wasn’t bothered to switch to English

(this one’s kind of a loose interpretation of what a headcanon is ngl) I made her birthday December 24th bc it’s one of the only dates associated with her

knew Tim was Robin the whole time, didn’t have the heart to tell him he was being so obvious (though she did wonder how he never questioned how his uniform got washed)

has amazing hand eye coordination when it comes to anything but baseball, where she instantly forgets how to use every limb she has

whenever she’s bored she gets Helena to throw a dart at a piece of paper with different courses written on it and then she’ll try to speedrun the course chosen. She’s a qualified plumber.

used to think she was allergic to chives but turns out she was just so convinced of this that she managed to placebo herself into having a reaction

Picking up from the languages - when she’s transported to the future and meets Meloni, she figures out interglac in a couple of days. She’s still fluent and Bart was not prepared for Tim’s mum to start asking him how his mum was doing in a language that wasn’t going to exist for another few centuries

[lizardsfromspace]

Finished my DS9 rewatch & decided to look back on some of the missed opportunities of the series. Was DS9 perfect? Yes. I like Voyager and Enterprise but I could fill pages with missed opportunities etc, with DS9 I had to scrounge around for one list

Everything to do with how Terry Farrell's departure was handled but that's on Rick "fucking Rick Berman" Berman

The Pah-Wraiths are the least creative thing in DS9 and really the only time they fell into the pit of defanging an alien concept, by making the Prophets the Good God Aliens and the Pah-Wraiths the Evil Demon Aliens. Too much of the finale is spent on this silly plot of red-eyed, possessed Dukat in the hell caves. On the other hand the scenes where Dukat seduces the Space Pope into Satanism are fun

Tora Ziyal being this formless character bc they kept recasting her and somehow settled on "romance with Garak, who is her dad's age and, uh, y'know" as the best option for her. Why did Ziyal not have any kind of arc with Jake and Nog given they were around the same age

Jake Sisko I guess? For all that I respect why he wasn't around that much I do wish they'd included him a bit more over the years

I get why they revisited the Mirror Universe the first time but why did they do it again each season. Why were all those episodes still better than any Mirror Universe plot since

Uhhh the arc with the Orion Syndicate was kind of forgettable and it's sort of weird that the Orion Syndicate had no Orions in it

"Profit and Lace"

Uhhhhhh when they introduced the Defiant there was a Romulan onboard and she was written out bc they didn't have enough room for her and I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel here but it would've been nice to have a fleshed out Romulan at some point in the 24th century shows instead of a revolving door. It's weird that Star Trek has only had a regular Romulan character for half a season of Picard and he spent the next season dead and then vanished without a trace

Will Elnor never be mentioned again or will he show up on one episode of Legacy to get Icheb'd. Which would be worse

When did this become a Picard post

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Incest on the Nile, Part One

Oh, the Egyptians. One of the greatest ancient civilizations. Remembered by their mummies, pyramids and well, incest. Not only in the myths but in the man pharaonic lines.

"It's incest! Like the Kings and Queens of Ancient Egypt!"

As said by Melanie, from The Magic Toyshop, upon seeing a brother and sister kissing. I had full intention of making a gif from this scene in movie, but the version I can find on youtube is of such bad quality that I decided it's not worthy.

Either way, the point is, the Egyptian Pharaohs were famous for inbreeding, and their gods reflect that. Specially because the Pharaohs were seen as being an incarnated god, so it makes sense they do as the gods did and marry their sisters. Besides, incest helps with the concentration of power, which is something monarchs love.

According to the The Bremner-Rhind Papyrus, which recounts the Heliopolis Creation Myth. There was the first god, who narrates the text and is left unnamed, but through other sources we can assume to be Atum, who is often associated with Ra, and through that association, to Amun. This first god created Shu and Tefnut and this lineage created all the other major gods. The texts says:

"I came forth from the roots, I created all reptiles and all that exists among them. Shu and Tefnut begat Geb and Nut, and Geb and Nut begat Osiris, Horus Mekhantenirti, Seth, Isis, and Nephthys from the womb, one after the other, and they begat their multitudes in this land."

Shu and Tefnut

Shu, god of air, and Tefnut, goddess of moisture, are the children of Atum. An account of their birth, in which they are said to be twins, is given in the pyramid text of Pepi I, who ruled between the 24th and 23rd centuries BC:

"Atum is the one who came into being as one who came (with penis) extended in Heliopolis. He put his penis in his fist so that he might make orgasm with it, and the two twins were born, Shu and Tefnut."

In the pyramid text of Unis, who ruled circa 2345–2315 BC, the two are mentioned to be, together, considered the "Dual-Lion":

"Dual-Lion, who made their two gods and their body themselves—that is Shu and Tefnut, who made the gods, begot the gods, and set the gods."

Tefnut and Shu were frequently represented as a dual-headed being, so I would dare to say they are quite co-dependent, like those couples to never leave each other side. Execpet that one time Tefnut left Shu to go on a killing spree in Nubia. A text known as the Leyden Papirus narrates "the mission imposed by R[a] on Thoth and Shu to conciliate Tefnut, his daughter, who as a result of a quarrel has assumed the form of a lioness and withdrawn to the Nubian desert; the two gods transform themselves into apes, pacify the goddess by the magic and eloquence of Thoth, and return with her to Egypt" (West, 1969).

Geb and Nut

Geb, god of earth, and Nut, goddess of the sky, were the children of Shu and Tefnut, and they were in love. However, the sun god (be it Ra, Amon or Atum) feared that the children of this union would usurp the throne of from, so he placed a curse that forbid her from giving birth in any day of the year, which had 360 days. Luckily for Nut, Thoth helped her, by getting the light from the moon god, Khonsu, and using this light to make 5 extra days in the year. On each day, Nut gave birth to a different child: Osiris, Horus, Set, Isis and Nephthys. The sun god didn't like this a bit and ordered Shu to physically hold Geb and Nut apart so they could no longer have children.

Geb and Tefnut

Some traditions, starting in the 30th dynasty, claim that Geb married his mom, Tefnut, after his father forcefully split him from Nut. In the Shrine of Ismailia, better known as the Shrine of El Arish, there's an inscription that recounts Shu's battle against Apep, and that Geb used his father's absence to take control of the Kingdom. The problem is that most translation of this text are in German, I don't speak German. The little I could translate, with Google's help said something like:

"Geb looked at his mother; he desired her very much, and his heart longed for her, and therefore he travelled the earth in great suffering [...] he found her in that place called Pecharti; then he seized her by force. Now there arose a very great uproar in the palace."

However, other version don't include the rape. According to Jørgensen (2014) the Tebtunis Mythological Manual, which dates to the 2nd century CE, says that:

"He lay with his mother Tefnut, so that they were doing harm to Shu."

Maybe Tefnut consensually had sex with Geb, since the text describes "they" both a doing harm to Shu. But, more likely than anything else, considering that this is such a late myth, this story shouldn't be considered as reflective of Geb and Tefnut's relationship. Scholars speculate that Geb taking Tefnut as his wife is a way to symbolize the transfer of kingship of Egypt, with Geb taking both the crown and the wife of Shu.

The Curious Case of Hathor

I think that it's a well established fact that myths tend to change with time. Hathor is the victim of many of theses changes. It seems that initially, in the Old Kingdom, she was thought of as being the wife of Ra. In this position, she was the mythological mother of the Pharaoh, a role that later would be filled by Isis. However, she is also conflated with Sekhmet, daughter of Ra, and fills the role of the Eye of Ra. You know the story about Teftnut going on a murder spree? Sometimes, it's Hathor who is the one to cause devastation. On the complete polar opposite, she's also said to be the mother of Ra, but in a solar cycle type of deal that each day she births him and each night he births her and so they are forever reborn.

Hathor is also credited as being the mother of Horus, possibly having had this role for even longer than Isis, but after Isis rose to prominence, she appeared in the ole of a care taker to Horus, nursing him with her milk (she's a cow goddess) while he was hidden from Set. However, in some locations, she is linked to Horus not through motherhood, but through marriage, being his wife.

Interestingly, Hathor never seem to occupy two of these roles at the same time. She's never a mother-wife to Ra or Horus. Her role seems to change accordingly to what is 'popular' at the time. This is why I'm including this as a curious case of incest, because as far as I can find, she's never married to her son. She just happens to be married to two someone who are sometimes said to be her son.

In my own personal syncretisation of all this versions of Hathor, I would say she's the daughter and consort of the Ra, who dies every night and she rebirth him every day, making her his mother too. Then, when kingship passed to Horus, she married him, having also have nursed him in his infancy (or maybe he is her biological son from her union with Ra). This would be a nice and neat way to make sense of it all, but mythology is rarely nice and neat.

References

Allen J. P. (2015). The ancient Egyptian pyramid texts (Second). SBL Press.

Faulkner, R. O. (1938). The Bremner-Rhind Papyrus: IV. The Journal of Egyptian Archaeology, 24(1), 41–53.

Jørgensen, J. K. B. (2014). Egyptian Mythological Manuals: Mythological structures and interpretative techniques in the Tebtunis Mythological manual, the manual of the Delta and related texts. Det Humanistiske Fakultet, Københavns Universitet.

Wilkinson R. H. (2003). The complete gods and goddesses of ancient Egypt. Thames & Hudson.

West, S. (1969). The Greek Version of the Legend of Tefnut. The Journal of Egyptian Archaeology, 55, 161-183.

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oc questions tag ❔

tagged by @darkfire1177 thank u <3 tagging @spaceratprodigy @solstheimtxt @westernwind-s @ncytiri @envergothash @heartofhubris @bg3 @elmshore and anyone else who wants to do it :3

anyway get some toby info 🥰

Name: Tobias Ariel Katz

Nickname(s): Toby, Sunshine (only used by Klara)

Gender: Trans man <3

Star sign: uhhhhhh i had to look up. Leo.

Height: 5'4 / 164 cm

Orientation: Bisexual

Nationality Ethnicity: Finnish-Ukrainian-American Jewish (yes i changed the question. listen. i don't think they had same kind of countries on tow's 24th century Earth. that's why we're talking about ethnicity).

Favourite fruit: Apples

Favourite season: Autumn! he loves crunchy, colorful leaves and sweater+long coat season

Favourite flower: Sunflowers! He likes that they turn towards the sun and grown really tall. Also, tasty seeds. (read: i am a boring person who doesn't know shit about flowers so i'm picking the ones i know?)

Favourite scent: Coffee <3

Coffee, tea, or hot chocolate: Coffee, sometimes white tea.

Average hours of sleep: he's lucky if he gets 6-7 😔

Dog or cat person: CAT PERSON. he's fine with dogs but he prefers cats soooo much more. he volunteered at a cat shelter as a freshman and second year student 🥺

Dream trip: Traveling makes him nervous so he prefers "staycations"

Favourite fictional character: a main character from a short graphic novel Klara did for her art class >:3

Number of blankets they sleep with: one! he moves a lot and gets annoyed if there's more of them bc they just start falling over

Random fact: You get three: Likes to do math problems and sudokus in his free time. Often picks stairs instead of elevator. Used to read at least 50 books in a year. His collection of books in Halcyon is too small for that. For now.

[lightshiningforth]

I know the 24th century Star Trek captains think highly of Kirk bc of his historical significance, but I firmly believe that if they had to work with him as a contemporary colleague they Would Not Like Him.

Sure, Kirk and Picard get along fine in Generations for their brief stint of saving the world together. But when they were both captains? Are you kidding? Picard highly values the prime directive and the chain of command. Kirk insists on getting involved in everything himself. They would infuriate each other. They wouldn’t get along in school, either - Kirk was a TA with a stick up his ass and Picard was a jock who got into bar fights. As cadets they would infuriate each other bc Kirk would think Picard didn’t take his duties seriously, and as captains they would infuriate each other bc Picard would think Kirk didn’t take his duties seriously. They have a love for Shakespeare, history, and the outdoors in common that could bond them as friends, sure. But as coworkers? HA

Sisko admires Kirk. He meets him briefly in “Trials and Tribble-ations” and is excited to do so. But if they were both captains at the same time, I bet Sisko would resent the way Kirk rushes into situations, slaps a solution on them, and sails off without dealing with long term consequences. Deep Space 9 is all about long term consequences. It does the work that is alluded to in the Original Series, when the Enterprise crew tells some culture we never see again that Starfleet and the Federation will help them fix XYZ problem. Then the starship leaves. Sisko is acutely aware of how out of touch some of his starship colleagues are as a result of that practice. And besides, he might not get along with Kirk solely due to how much Kirk can’t stand children while Sisko loves them.

Janeway is actually very Kirk like - she has a style of “cowboy diplomacy” resembling his, which means that her admiration of Kirk could very well translate into genuinely getting along with him as a colleague. They could have a cup of coffee together and bond over the travails of having romantic tension with your first officer. However, a LOT of the time Kirk’s strategy for getting out of situations involves Flirting With the Alien Antagonist™️, and given that Janeway views actively avoiding romantic involvement as a necessary part of being captain (at least, romantic involvement with people she interacts with AS a captain - she has a civilian fiancé back on Earth for a time), I’m guessing she would find that irritating.

[dukeoftheblackstar]

vamp boba thots? :D

Vampires are the ultimate Sugar Daddy and I'm beyond willing to fight anybody who disagrees.

You no longer want to be a basic bitch who works a bajillion hours a day, buy shit you don't need (yes bestie, close that tab right now it's for your own good), whine about being broke, and cry while you contemplate on either living off coffee or wine. You want that good shit.

And by good shit, you want old money. Because bestie, old money is eternal. It doesn't just get you in clubs and VIP passes, it gets you in that exclusive room full of old men whose pockets run deeper than the bags on your eyes (: Some probable illuminati bullshit because these men don't die, they just stay old and rich.

If it pleases the court, Count Blah Blah, Boba VampBoba!

NSFW under cut. Lazy writing.

blood mention and vampire stuff idk

death mention and more vampire stuff idk

MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES.

You're old enough to fuck and yet here you are, making horrible choices for yourself because you saw something shiny on the internet and decided to buy it. Thus, leaving your broke ass self daydreaming that a Sugar Daddy would just take you away.

But you know, you don't actually want the DADDY, you just want the SUGAR.

And by SUGAR I mean that sexy, black, business card DADDY lets you play with while he sits on his chair talking about stocks and other shit that that just screams money. You think they're all the same so you just swipe, dress pretty, act dumb and make excuses to not touch old dick because only money matters.

You obviously made the wrong choice because bestie, dick matters too D:

QUID PRO QUO.

We'll just get right into it because Count Boba Fett does not have time for your foolishness.

He doesn't appreciate the filth you bring to his good name. You get what you give and clearly, you're not giving much.

You can't expect to blow his money without blowing dick hun, that's just the law. It don't matter if he has concubines left and right, if he calls for you, you answer.

HEAD.

So head, right? He wants you on your knees slobbing on his knob like it's the 24th century BC where blow jobs were discovered. He wants you to explore and revel on that dick like it's your only saving grace because bestie, he's no merciful god. He can destroy you as much as he can destroy that punani.

He likes your mouth wide open. Goes absolutely berserk when you run your tongue along the fangs you now have while he sits on his throne rubbing one out.

If he's feeling generous, he'd not only wipe his pre-cum on your lips, but trace those dangerously sharp fangs with the tip of his cock. If he's in a good mood, he'd wipe it on your tongue.

But no make mistake, the count is not a very nice man. He old, he cranky.

You're not allowed to close your mouth unless he says so. He wants your tongue drip with saliva and his cum while you wait for his command. And if he's feeling extra frisky, he'd have you do a pre-meal on an unsuspecting victim so it's a hot pool of blood, saliva, and cum.

If you so ever move your mouth to close, the Count won't hesitate to give you a proper slap. Along the lines of:

"Now what did I say about keeping that mouth open, hmm?" He'd hmm the shit out of it while he whacks your chin and cheek with a slickened, hard, cock. He won't be soft on it either, you're gonna feel it rattle your jaw and hear him hiss because he might have whacked you with his raging erection a little too hard.

DO NOT BE FRIGHTENED, PRECIOUS BABY GIRL BECAUSE HE CAN BE GENTLE TOO.

And by gentle, I mean he'd massage your cheeks with your mouth open so when you're ready to be blessed by this fanged lord of darkness and bats (maybe he likes bats idk), you won't pop drop and lock it on his god-tier dick.

Hand on top of your heard with fingers under stray locks of hair. A tender graze before pulling your hair back so you'd look at him and wince because miss'ma'am, nothing on your face will ever look good than a rundown mascara with tears on your cheek after he dick fucks your mouth so deep you felt death for 0.03 seconds.

He also values the glow of your skin and what's better than nature's natural moisturizing properties? Cum of course. Best you remember bestie, we want that glow up ;) not throw up ♥

He likes to cum on your face, all over. Having you desperately lick where your tongue can reach because he's not about to down you in cum after prodding your throat like that because you're a princess and you deserve to call his name when he's ready for that cute lil P ♥.

SHOULDERS.

The Count is a bit of a clean freak sometimes and doesn't want making a mess of himself. Here's where you come in, huntie ♥ You make the mess for the count because he is not about hat life of buying you a Rolls Royce without something in return.

So there you are, sitting on the balcony fences with your knees spread and your ass barely supporting your weight. One wrong move and you fall to your death. But not to worry fam, I gotchu ♥

Boba's right behind you in full support as he just stands there with his chin on your shoulder and his breath hot against your ear.

He tells you to spread your knees wider and if you ever buckle and close them, he'll throw you off to your death.

Dangerous man, our count is. YUM. Like sir? Pls dick me down before you throw me to my death, am I right, bestie? Yes. Deffo. Now stfu and let the man work.

Mindful of the sharpened nails, he has his fingers over your panties in an excruciatingly slow motion. Tracing every curve of your now soaked lips, pressing, tapping, and flicking that precious bean through the cloth.

He'll probably do some stupid shit like lick the the side of your neck and nibble on your tongue, prodding you through the cloth.

He has a shoulder kink. He'd bite your shoulder. That's it. Idk what you're expecting but he will bite your shoulder. Maybe kiss it, lick it, leave a hickey, idk what to tell you babe.

NECKS. Total Vampire Kink, I tell you.

He'd grab you on the back of your neck and pull you to him, turning you to face him for the lulz. He doesn't need a reason, bestie. He'd do that shit while you're reading a book just so you could suck him off while he reads the morning paper, he don't care.

He'd run his fingers through the back of your neck slow and barely touching the skin. It's the only thing saving you from -- Oh shit, well no. He'd do that and THEN grab a handful of your hair and force you into a very steamy, tongue-tied, fang licking kiss until you beg him to to stop by pushing him off because he about to suck the life out of you.

As a very concerned citizen, please take swimming lessons and extended breath concentration lessons.

On lazy days, he wants to just rub his face all over the back of your neck, the sides, all over you neck. Like bitch, he didn't buy you 1283891273812937 perfume to let it go to waste.

He'd bite you. Sometimes love bites, sometimes hate bites because you should not be that cute of a baby girl when he's in meeting with other dignified vampires.

Sometimes he'd just bite you to taste your blood again. Then let it rain blood and you two can just roll into the blood bath and make out that scene in Heart Shaped Glasses by Marilyn Manson (shits hot for me)

I would say knees and toes here, but I got nothing. Sorry fam, dumb brain. I also need to know more about Vampires (:

For you @kimiheartblade

[loserchildhotpants]

4, 21 and 27 for Three Princes from the Ask Game ☆

skdfhjksjdhf hello friend!

4] What detail in Three Princes are you really proud of?

There are a lot of little details in Three Princes I'm really proud of! Mostly because they were 'mistakes' that I caught in time and then worked into the story.

So, because of the time period, I'd have to stop and re-evaluate basically every line I wrote, like 'does this make sense?? did [x] exist in 1912??' and most of the time, the answer was 'no' lol such as Dean's wrist watch - I wrote him as just wearing a wrist watch for a while bc I wanted to give him something that sort of personified his limited time to pursue his freedom, something on him that would be a constant reminder (and meaningful when it's on him versus when it's off and left in his room) - it was just gonna be a little easter egg (of which there are many in that fic), and then as I was writing, I was like '... wait did wrist watches exist? People only use pocket watches in the movie, I think' and i checked, and lo and behold, no, wrist watches for men did not exist at the time. Men used pocket watches, but wrist watches were a hot, new commodity for upper class ladies by 1912.

So, Dean likely wouldn't have one for himself, but it wasn't impossible that his mother wouldn't have had one in that universe based on the background I gave her, so i was like 'omg wait it can be a symbol for the limited time he has to let Cas rescue him, to rescue himself, but ALSO it can be a wink wink nudge nudge at him being queer, and the limited time he has to accept himself!'

There's lots of other little things; when picking character names, I chose Temesras for Amara by just researching what variations of the word 'darkness,' existed in proto-english, as a small easter egg to 'she's ancient, she's Thee Darkness,' and then there's Drozdov, which means 'blackbird' - an allusion to Cas' black wings/being a many feathered thing, but also of being something of a wounded outcast.

I had the Moon calendar for 1912 pulled up, there are details in that fic that no one will ever notice or care abt but *i* know skldhjf lmao

21] If you wrote a "missing scene" in Three Princes, what would it be?

The first thing that comes to mind is Sam and Rowena at the end (I'm gonna speak vaguely so as not to spoil it for anyone that hasn't read it yet) - the last scene w them is meant to spark doubt, in a way, bc you don't hear from either of them again, but that was a decision I'd made later on - there WAS a scene after Rowena leads Sam away, but I decided to cut it bc when it's Dean's POV, i wanted the reader to also feel sort of stressed out abt what Sam's fate ultimately had been. But the first 'missing scene' that comes to mind is that - in the chaos, out on the water, Sam and Rowena.

27] How long did it take to write Three Princes? Describe the process.

So, this was a long process! I first made the doc the day after my birthday last year, so October 24th 2022. I didn't start writing in it much until late November, though.

Now, @atomicteaparty really badly wanted a Titanic Destiel AU that was well-researched, and, bless her <3, she likes my writing and wanted it to be of that quality/voice. So, the process first started w me figuring out how much Real Life Event can I tastefully include without it feeling like... idk, like I was making light of a horrible tragedy, then how much of the movie's formula am I going to use, then how am I going to transmute the spn characters into OUR universe, into 1912, and make them recognizably themselves while still having completely different backstories.

I decided that no matter what I did w the real life event aspects, I wouldn't name real people. I don't begrudge folks that do that, i know it happened over a century ago, but something abt it for me personally felt icky, so i decided that ALL the characters i used had to be from spn or made up. Then I watched the movie. I watched the movie several times lmao and I saw that, the existing Titanic AUs for destiel always allot Cas as the Rose-insert, but I was like '... but Cas is the one that initially rescues DEAN! Dean should be the one trapped!' - I decided the suicide rescue was going to stay, and Dean would be my Rose-insert, but he'd still need to be *Dean.* And a young!Dean, too, this is pre-Stanford era Dean. This is early 20's Dean. So, not so hardened, but very disenchanted, loyal to his father - I built him a backstory that would make his personality make sense, and I kept key elements of his persona; he loves cars and car maintenance, he loves cowboys, he is v pretty and is aware of that, etc etc.

Tbh the hardest part of writing any of the characters was Dean. Dean, canonically, was raised by motel televisions - he's all pop-culture and quips. I had to allude to the 1912 equivalent of that, which is why I have him sing a song to himself (if you look up the song he sings when he has his first anxiety attack, you'll find that it was sort of the 1912 equivalent of being in the top 40 lol) and he calls Sam 'kid,' and you might notice that his formal language relaxes around Benny and Cas and Meg, like, once he's in the lower decks and he's allowed to be more himself, he uses lots of turns of phrases and is a little more crass or flirtatious, bc that's truer to who he actually is - so, he needed to use slang, but he also was not a complete street kid either, he's somewhere in between, and bc he really got to KNOW Mary before she died (bc in Three Princes, she dies when he's ~14), he's not AS hardened a soldier. He doesn't question John (at first), he's miserable like he is, and Mary's death still had to be the weight-bearing pillar that brings the whole castle down.

Making Dean still *sound* like Dean would sound in that time period was REALLY difficult. Lots of dialogue re-writes for that. Other than that, building Cas' backstory and making it make historical sense was the next biggest challenge. I needed him to be a soldier, but the only war that he would've possibly fought in was the Russian revolution, so Dean wasn't gonna be his first rebellion, which begged the question, what would Dean BE to him, then.

In the text of Titanic, the movie, Rose represents the upperclass, really, but the best of them - the well-intentioned, kind, unassuming/perhaps slightly ignorant be well-meaning upperclass, which Jack is the equal and opposite to; he represents all of the lower class, the less fortunate, the daring and selfish (by which i mean, he put pleasure before duty), the adventurous and free - which is why he's doomed to die.

I had to decide what Cas and Dean were going to personify here, so that the themes were clear, and then I needed to decide how Sam and Rowena would mirror that, so you could glean some foreshadowing abt what was to become of either couple by interactions had by both.

Ultimately, I decided that Dean personified Faith-In-People, while Cas personified Faith-In-The-Divine, and their narrative purposes would be to rekindle the missing faith in one another; Cas would restore Dean's faith in a higher power (which is why, ultimately, Dean is able to pray again), and Dean would restore Cas' faith in people.

Sam is Faith-In-Self, he's sure of what he wants, who he is, what he's capable of, that he understands everything he's seeing, and he's right! He's observant and self-assured, but he plays it safe; Rowena is his equal and opposite. She lacks faith in herself, she is NOT self-assured when they meet, but she plays the socialite game more dangerously. By the end, Rowena is self-assured, and Sam is humbled, but willing to play more dangerously.

Then ofc the dreaded time of picking a title skldjfhskf lmao strangely enough, this was one of the last Hard Decisions i needed to make; i had a few titles picked out, but i kept coming back to the conversation Cas carries at The Fancy Dinner, where he talks about the etymology of serendipity, which, ofc is a running theme throughout the fic. I decided on Three Princes bc, as Cas explains, in the original story, three princes keep finding things they weren't originally in search of - this is also why the POV switches are limited to Cas, Dean, and Sam (they're our three princes). Cas, Dean, and Sam operate as our unassuming princes that continue to find things they weren't originally in quest of.

Sam has simple, short-term goals; he wants to pet the fancy dogs, he wants to go on the tours, see the libraries - have an adventure. Dean is there to follow orders and do what he must as deemed by John. Cas has long-term goals to get to America, escape old demons, shake off his old life somehow and become someone new by virtue of being in a new place.

Sam instead finds a long-term goal; Rowena. He was just hanging out, having a good time, and then he sees a goddess walk in and is like 'oohhh the odds are NOT in my favor but i GOTTA.' Dean finds cause to deny orders and pursue his own happiness which was NOT in the script handed to him, and Cas experiences attraction and love for the first time completely unexpectedly, which ofc inherently changes him (something he acknowledges he's scared of, during the Friday Morning Breakfast he follows Dean to, when he first realizes he's Changing).

In the midst of writing Three Princes, my friend got really sick, so i flew out of state to help take care of her, and then ANOTHER friend had a crisis and i drove over multiple other states to fetch HER and get her to my other friend's place and keep everyone under the same roof where i could account for them lol launching two rescues was not a simple task, and it ate up 3 weeks i was SUPPOSED to be writing slkjdfhsjkdfh which is why the fic was MOSTLY completed by April 10th, when i started posting, but i couldn't finish editing and polishing before the 14th ; _ ; i lost nearly a month i had allotted for that sdkfjskdjh

And ofc the entire fic was beta'd by @pockypuck (Megh) who helped me keep everything tonally consistent, and historically accurate (to a degree, ofc, it's fic skdjhfkdsjf it's accurate enough that you'd have to be a REAL fuckin stickler to take issue w something in there).

I drafted the fic w Megh in bullet points, then inserted that into my Titanic AU Google Doc, used Outline Mode to keep track of everything, and just ran w it. So. This is an insanely long answer and tbh there's still even more that went into it skdfhskldhfd lmao it was a long process and it's a fic im ultimately really, really proud of so thank you so much for asking me abt it ; __ ; <3 it means so much to me!

asks for fic writers

[agent-troi]

Some fic title suggestions:

Head Games

Un-X-pected

Head Games:

oooh this could mean so many things i gotta think about it for a second

the Enterprise-D encounters a planet where they have no spoken or written language only telepathy and deanna troi is their only hope of communicating with them (interchangeable with TOS and Spock or Voyager and Tuvok i guess- actually now that i come to think of it voyager could've avoided so many problems if they had a decent telepath or empath like deanna troi on board lol)

x-files sequel to pusher/kitsunegari (that would make it a trilogy i guess? lol) where it turns out either pusher or linda bowman had a child and when they find out what happened to their parent they make it their mission in life to exact revenge on mulder and scully

i don't have any more specific ideas atm but i'm gonna keep this one in my back pocket bc i like it and it could apply to any number of ideas i might come up with in the future so thanks🫶🫶

Un-X-pected:

hey this would actually be a great title for the star trek/txf crossover(s) i've been meaning to write (keep in mind it's late and i'm drunk so i copy and pasted these from my notes lmao)

Circa season 6 (or season 7 after she’s pregnant but before she finds out), Mulder and Scully go looking for a cave rumored to have mythical properties like immortality and healing and whatever (like the Timetrap cave) and while exploring it they pop out into the 24th century and run into Riker and Troi going camping/hiking on shore leave, they get taken to the office of displaced persons (or is it called the temporal displacement office) and Mulder convinces them to assign him and Scully to the enterprise as a doctor and a noncom, msr gets a tour of the enterprise and riker and troi explain to them what imzadi means, mulder starts calling her that in his head and he says it out loud by accident one day

X-Files/Star Trek crossover where Mulder and Scully visit their old office after being stranded in the 24th century to see what became of it, and the FBI building has probably been converted to either a Starfleet Intelligence building or a museum, but when they go down to the basement they find their office exactly the way they left it because everyone forgot it existed, and they just get a major nostalgia punch to the gut

[funnywormz]

the more i learn abt the holodecks the more insane they seem to me. and the killing game from voyager has only made me feel more this way. this is meant to be like video games in the 24th century but it seems so liable to get abused and go wrong that it seems completely unfeasible..........

like what do you mean people can get shot and die in the holodeck. what do you mean a holodeck explosion can damage the actual ship if the safety settings are turned off. what do you MEAN someone can be impregnated with a fucking holographic baby against their will. what do you mean people's brains can get altered to make them think they're holodeck characters. not to mention the subplots about hologram characters becoming sentient every five minutes. how is any of this allowed, much less on a starfleet vessel???????? this post started as a joke but it genuinely is something that irritates me abt the star trek worldbuilding bc the holodeck seems way too dangerous and unethical to even be allowed in the federation, much less on its super powerful warships.........

i can imagine something like the holodeck as a technology becoming a reality eventually, but it would just be way more restricted for so many reasons imo. there are especially so many issues with the "safety protocols" even being a thing that can get turned off. the whole concept is so baffling

[savameh]

Hetalia in the Star Trek Universe

The overlap between these two fandoms are small so like nobody’s gonna read this but my AuDHD ass really wanted to find a way to connect my special interest to my current hyperfixation so here we go

So first off, most of the nations are still alive and well in the 23rd and 24th centuries. The formal concept of a nation may have been abolished, but so long as their cultures persist, the nations persist. This could spell trouble for micronations, who have cultures closely connected to as the nations they split off from, so some of the micronations such as Sealand and Wy may either be dead or fading in the same way Prussia is.

(And speaking of Prussia, I think he’d either be dead or close to dead by this time, which is a damn shame because I feel like he and Jadzia Dax would get along well)

The nations would have also aged some physically, with those in their early 20s during the modern-day being late 20s or even 30s and beyond, and the teenage nations would be in their 20s.

Now, what would the nations be doing? Probably the same thing they do in the modern day, just hanging out, this time with no wars and no bureaucratic duties due to the abolition of nations as sovereign entities. I feel like they’d mostly stick to Earth bc it’s home but due to space travel now being easy and ~relatively~ safe, I’m sure some are bound to leave the planet eventually and go travel and see things. I’m also sure some of them are absolutely terrified of space travel due to its newness and element of danger and stick strictly to Earth. I feel like America, North Italy, and Denmark would be the ones who are off traveling the universe frequently and visiting as many places they can (I get the feeling that Denmark would have been escorted out of Quark’s by Odo at least once for rowdiness), while countries like China, Japan, and Austria would be the ones terrified of space travel and would not leave Earth unless absolutely necessary.

Now, the question to be asked: can nations join Starfleet, if one wanted to? I do not know. I think it would depend on whether or not Starfleet itself knows of the existence of the nations. If they did, then I feel like that knowledge would be top-secret, something only admirals have access to or only known by Section 31. In that case, I would feel like they would probably not be allowed to join Starfleet due to the possibility of people (or even antagonistic alien organizations, like the Tal Shiar or Obsidian Order or whoever has a bone to pick against the Federation) finding out about the nations. It would be a shock if someone witnessed a nation get hit by a phaser fire set to kill and survive.

If Starfleet did know about the nations and let nations enlist, or if Starfleet didn’t know and a nation really really wanted to enlist, then it would probably be a whole ordeal involving some sort of genetic modification to hide the fact that the nation is immortal and to disguise their face so information systems don’t recognize them as a person who was photographed in the 21st century or whatever (remember - genetic modification is illegal in the Federation! This would have to stay super secret), as well as the alteration of records to hide their identities. And in the event that the nation is in a situation where a normal human would die, the nation would have to fake their death somehow to avoid detection.

Now that I’m writing this out, some degree of record modification would definitely be necessary for the nations to live normal lives, whether they enlist in Starfleet or not, so people don’t realize that they’re immortal.

Anyways these are my thoughts on Hetalia in the Star Trek universe for now, might add more later

[mirrorbashir]

julian is literally jake's weird older cousin to me. julian thinks he's so in touch w the youth bc he knows abt the 24th century equivalent of among us and jake thinks he's embarrassing