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wawamouse · 2 months

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Ok, well I was bored and decided to take the mbti test for Miguel and Chico as a writing/characterisation exercise while I procrastinate on my fic and then Tumblr went ahead and 404ed so hard on my draft post that it straight up nuked all the shit I wrote.

SO NOW YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN AND BREAK DOWN THEIR PERSONALITY TYPES.

Just for reference, my MBTI personality type is INTP-T, so I am pretty confident that there is a minimal amount of “me” reflecting through in these results. Either way, the test results still merely reflect my own interpretations of Miguel and Chico’s character. I would be interested to see if someone else took the test for them and got differing results, but I'm sure this kind of personality test stuff is only the product of tonight's particular brain rot... probably not what most people want to spend their time figuring out.

Anyway, Miguel first! I feel like his test was harder for me to do because I wanted to consider how he might’ve been outside of Oz as well (considering that he is mostly in stress mode in Oz). Still, I feel like his result is pretty spot on with the way that I interpret him, especially with his dominant and inferior functions.

Note 1: I used 16Personalities to take the MBTI tests, but basically all the type profile that I quote below is from Personality Junkie Note 2: For the breakdowns, there will be a lot of acronyms. The way to read it is: in MBTI, there are 8 functions: Introverted/Extroverted Feeling (Fi/Fe), Thinking (Ti/Te), Intuition (Ni/Ne), and Sensing (Si/Se).

Miguel

Strengths: Strong practical skills, strong sense of duty, very loyal, sensitive, warm, good at connecting with others Weaknesses: Worried about their social status, inflexible, reluctant to innovate or improvise, vulnerable to criticism, often too needy, too selfless Stress triggers: being asked to compromise a value, being misunderstood or belittled by others, having too much conflict and not enough cooperation

Function Stack

Dominant: Extraverted Feeling (Fe)

Auxiliary: Introverted Sensing (Si)

Tertiary: Extraverted Intuition (Ne)

Inferior: Introverted Thinking (Ti)

Profile

ESFJs are warm, engaging, caring, loyal, dutiful, and hardworking. They are admired for their work ethic, perseverance, devotion, and steadfastness. They strive to practice what they preach, holding fast to their commitments and convictions. As predominant Judgers, they take their work, family, and social roles rather seriously.

While appearing outwardly confident and assertive, because their inner Judging function, Introverted Thinking (Ti), is inferior, ESFJs may feel they have relatively little inner control. By way of their Fe, ESFJs can befriend, persuade, and direct others. In so doing, ESFJs can reap the benefit of social support, as well as a sense of control and influence in the world of people. ESFJs’ auxiliary function, Introverted Sensing (Si), prompts them to keep one eye on the past and to preserve existing methods, traditions, and conventions.

ESFJs are Extraverted Judging types, quick to express their feelings, opinions, and grievances. This can be both a strength and a weakness. On the one hand, it contributes to ESFJs’ quick responsiveness and capacity for leadership. On the other, it can dispose them to judging prematurely or too severely. Fe imbues ESFJs with a desire to control or otherwise influence others. In the company of close confidants, however, they are more apt to share their negative emotions and grievances. And because their words are often bathed in emotion, ESFJs can seem intense or dramatic in their expressions. The dominant position of their Fe also makes ESFJs a proactive and highly intentional type. ESFJs tend to take themselves, their lives, and their endeavors quite seriously. They are efficient and task-oriented, quickly moving from one thing to the next.

ESFJs use Introverted Sensing (Si) as their auxiliary function. Si contributes to ESFJs’ propensity to function as conservators of the past. The more often ESFJs do something in a particular way the harder it is for them to break out of that pattern. The same can be said for their beliefs and worldview.

Since Ne is in the lower half of ESFJs’ function stack, they often have a love-hate relationship with it. On the one hand, they may fancy themselves clever, witty, creative, or savvy. The “hate” part of ESFJs’ relationship with their Ne can involve the way it injects uncertainty into their beliefs and worldview. ESFJs seek a firm and unambiguous worldview to base their lives on. And because abstract analysis is not their strong suit, wrestling with ideas that contradict their Si worldview can be unsettling.

Because Ti (introverted thinking) is inferior in their function stack, ESFJs don’t experience confidence in wielding Ti logic, finding it slippery, elusive, and ephemeral. Despite its elusiveness, ESFJs remain forever captivated by and in pursuit of their Ti. They intuitively understand that Ti is somehow important in their quest for personal wholeness. Therefore, ESFJs can be seen as striving for a greater sense of inner control and logical competence (Ti), which may lead them to view themselves as highly logical, independent, and self-sufficient. They may extol the virtues of independent thought or laud the value of cognitively managing ones owns thoughts and feelings. They may also fancy themselves as highly self-aware or “self-taught.” Some ESFJs may go so far as to consider themselves Introverts because of their desire for inner control or obsession with being logical. But just as other personality types misinterpret or overestimate the skills and know-how of their inferior function, so it is with ESFJs.

Chico

Strengths: Receptive, reliable, passionate, altruistic, charismatic, Weaknesses: Unrealistic, overly idealistic, condescending, intense, overly empathetic Stress triggers: people not open to change, routine, disorganization, conflict, confrontation, criticism, competitive situations and sudden change of plans.

Function Stack

Dominant: Extraverted Feeling (Fe)

Auxiliary: Introverted Intuition (Ni)

Tertiary: Extraverted Sensing (Se)

Inferior: Introverted Thinking (Ti)

Profile

The ENFJ is warm, engaging, charismatic, persuasive, and talkative. ENFJs can quickly read and establish rapport with others. Because of their love for people and formidable social intelligence, ENFJs develop extensive networks of friends, acquaintances, and social connections; they are networkers par excellence. ENFJs excel when it comes to reading people, quickly assessing and mirroring their emotions, expressions, and body language.

While “working a crowd” or charming an audience is undoubtedly invigorating for ENFJs, their desire to engage with people goes beyond mere superficials. Their auxiliary function, Introverted Intuition (Ni), adds a degree of depth that is less apparent in their ESFJ (Miguel!) counterparts. ENFJs see it as their job to help others live more authentically, ethically, and healthily. Although ENFJs certainly want to help and support others, their reasons for doing so are not always entirely altruistic. After all, as Fe types, their own sense of self is inextricably interwoven with that of others. So while ENFJs genuinely want those they help to succeed, if those individuals end up failing, the ENFJ may come down hard on them.

[The dominant Fe is similar to that of ESFJ’s, so I won’t repeat a lot of what is the same.]

While ENFJs are subtle and smooth in the public sphere, those who work with or have a closer relationship them will eventually see their more controlling or judgmental side. While Fe involves a penchant for maintaining interpersonal harmony and good feeling, this can be trumped by its commensurate desire for outer control and assertiveness. ENFJs are in many ways wired to express their feeling judgments as soon as they come about. This is obviously of great importance for their intimates to understand, recognizing that what comes out of the ENFJ’s mouth is often their first reaction, one they may later come to reverse upon further reflection (Ni).

Fe is more influenced by cultural norms and expectations than Fi is. ENFJs typically display ample warmth, friendliness, and congeniality in their interactions. While Fi types may disparage ENFJs as emotionally superficial or disingenuous, most ENFJs have good intentions of improving morale or finding consensus. Finally, the dominant position of their Fe, combined with their auxiliary Ni, makes ENFJs among the most consistently goal-oriented of all types. ENFJs tend to take themselves, their lives, and their endeavors quite seriously.

ENFJs Judge before they Perceive. In many cases, it is only after making an upfront judgment by way of their Fe that they open themselves to alternative perspectives presented by their auxiliary function, Introverted Intuition (Ni). As Fe dominants, ENFJs are first and foremost concerned with shaping what is happening in the immediate social environment (Fe). They want to ensure that good feelings are maintained or to accomplish whatever social objective they have in mind (e.g., teaching, advising, motivating, etc.). For ENFJs, Ni concerns take a backseat to Fe. ENFJs are more likely to take an “ends justifies the means” approach. In order to accomplish their J agenda, ENFJs may be willing to say or withhold things that would not sit right with their INFJ counterparts. They may also be more willing to feign happiness. ENFJs might reason, even if unwittingly, that if good feelings can be cultivated out there (Fe), then a sense of inner happiness will likely emerge in due time.

Extraverted Sensing (Se) serves as ENFJs’ tertiary function. While Si (Miguel!) involves an intensive connection to the remembered past, Se is more extensive and present-oriented. It amasses concrete details and sensory information from the environment by way of the five senses (i.e., sight, smell, touch, sound, and taste). Unlike Si, Se is not content with the routine and familiar. Rather, it seeks sensory and material novelty. Se types love novel sensations and appearances, physical thrills, and material comforts. They are more liberal than Si types in their approach to and use of the material world. Se can also be linked with a concern for beauty and aesthetics (especially in Feeling types). ENFJs often have refined tastes when it comes to their material surroundings, their physical appearance, as well as their palate.

[The inferior Ti is similar to that of ESFJ’s so I won’t repeat what is the same]

However elusive their Ti, ENFJs are still captivated by it (as all types are with their inferior). In many ways, Ti represents a source of wholeness and self-actualization for ENFJs. Since Ti and Fe comprise a functional whole, they intuitively realize the importance of integrating these two functions for them to feel whole and complete. Consequently, ENFJs can be seen as striving for a greater sense of inner control and logical competence (Ti), which is why they may exhibit some of the same interests or self-conceptions as INTPs. Since ENFJs are ultimately unsure of the soundness of their own logic (Ti), they may unwittingly try to convince themselves through the act of convincing others. The more people they can convince that an idea is sound (Fe), the more confident they hope to feel about its veracity (Ti).

ESFJ & ENFJ Differences, Final Thoughts

Reminder: Miguel = ESFJ, Chico = ENFJ

Key differences

ESFJs Thrive on Stability; They like getting into a steady routine and immersing themselves in a community. They are usually the types who find a “home” and enjoy staying there and coming back to it repeatedly. They enjoy creating a comfortable base where they can re-charge. Living a transient life is usually stressful for an ESFJ personality type.

ENFJs Thrive on Change. While they enjoy having a structure and plan for their lives, a repetitive routine feels lacking in inspiration for them. ENFJs want a clear plan, structure, and direction. But they can quickly tire of staying in one place.

ESFJs Look for Certainties. ENFJs Look for Unknowns and are apt to notice what isn’t trustworthy or provable

ESFJs Enjoy Reminiscing and Recalling. ENFJs Enjoy Envisioning the Future.

ESFJs tend to speak using literal language, describing things as they experienced them in detail. They also tend to speak in a linear way, from beginning to end. ENFJs, in contrast, tend to use a lot of metaphor and analogy when they speak.

When stressed or hurried, ESFJs can start to catastrophize or develop unrealistic expectations or possibilities; ENFJs can become more focused on experience and become overly-impulsive and focused on action at the expense of analyzing implications

My Final Thoughts (not quoting anything now)

I think in terms of how I view/characterize/write the characters, the personality type results really match. I think the differences in the way that their dominant extraverted feeling and inferior introverted thinking function comes out to play is especially accurate to how I see both characters. Chico being the “Protagonist” personality type is funny to me because I feel like we’ve joked before on here that he thinks he’s the protagonist even though he’s a total side character. I do think that Chico exhibits leadership qualities and he is probably like more of a glue that holds El Norte together as the 2iC throughout the leadership changes. I’ve always read Chico as trying to lead not from the top but from near the top. It’s not that he couldn’t lead but that he thinks his purpose to to maintain the structure of the community, effectively allowing him to help run things in a sideways sort of way. The key to him is that he is helping run things—that his support is critical.

I also think Miguel’s combo of traits show a lot in the way he cycles up and down through canon. Inflexibility is definitely one of his weaknesses, as well as concrete thinking. Overall, I feel like there were definitely places throughout both profiles where I was like “lol, yeah, that’s definitely them during XYZ in the show”.

In terms of compatibility, I think their types make sense. When they get along, they can really get along because they have a lot of commonalities in terms of how they interact with other people and also how they approach their goals. They're both sociable and they both value their relationships. If they're playing nice, then at worst, they have nonstop banter. Out of their strengths, Miguel's type would bring warmth and connection that Chico would appreciate. Chico's type has the strength in being receptive that would complement Miguel's weaknesses, and reliability would be appreciated by Miguel's type as well.

But at the same time, their sensing and intuition are flipped, so they could easily be at each other’s throats and squabble about everything, as sensing/intuition goes back to how they view the world and (concrete vs abstract, big picture vs details) and plays into their respective weaknesses of inflexibility/worried about social status (Miguel) and unrealistic/overly idealistic (Chico). Their types could easily get frustrated with each other, find each other annoying and dismissive, etc, and never see eye-to-eye. I also think their respective weaknesses and strengths could feed into a toxic cycle, too.

#text #miguel alvarez #chico guerra #😭 why is the weekend only two days aghghg #mbti profiles

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