#Anguished One

[ryunumber]

what would be the ryu number for the Anguished One from smt devil survivor 2? (including record breaker rerelease if that helps)

i'm mostly wondering how long it would take to get to joker - or if there's a different path. my first thought would be via jack frost but i figure as a species he comes under the same rule as pokemon species; in desu2 at least you can definitely get multiple of most demons, only a few are unique (and if you have a unique one then they won't show up in fights they normally would) i'm also wondering if you'd class (ignoring species clause for example's sake) jack frost as a demon and jack frost as a persona as the same being? i personally would, but curious as to how you'd go about it - if you don't, it might be a lot more difficult to get into persona territory, but once you get to anything from p3 onwards it's easy from there (thanks q)

(sorry for long infodump-ish. i've been thinking about this for a while before asking the expert) (also this game is underappreciated fite me)

The Anguished One has a Ryu Number of 2.

(explanation below)

As a Deity, I believe Osiris should be a Unique Demon and meet the eligibility criteria.

As for Demons vs. Persona, I'm also slightly inclined to count them as the same being thanks to a greater chance of visual continuity and a mechanical requirement that only one of each Persona ever be present at the same time, but given what a Persona actually is in-universe (discussed in some detail here), it's iffy getting them involved in the first place, which is why if at all possible I prefer to avoid using them in routes.

[selfish-wanderer]

Going back to think about the Devil Survivor series, and I think that one of the things that it does best is the (sometimes not so) subtle way it talks about responsibility.

In DeSu1, the fake ending of escaping the Lockdown before the last day just gets everyone killed by a Smite. And Yuzu's ending explicitly makes the bad things extend outside the Lockdown and get worse. With her extra day giving you the chance to sort of help patch things up, but letting you screw up again.

In DeSu2, following Daichi without direction gives you a hollow version of the Kingmaker ending. The universe is free from Polaris, but now reality is just a handful of islands and an endless sea with nothing in it. With Record Breaker suggesting that the Triangulum would appear to fill in the spot anyway. And since the fate of reality itself is in your hands, you cannot advance to Record Breaker with any other route but the base game perfect ending (sort of, I know it's a separate playthrough). Which is a combination of the Kingmaker ending (the opposite of the hollow world ending), and Daichi's true route of everyone surviving thanks to your effort and having everyone's bonds be strong enough to unite against the administrator.

Additionally, the "prophets" of each game are my favorites. Both Amane and Saiduq's mindset of "I'll play my role be it with or against you" really compliments the game. Especially in how your goals almost never oppose theirs, but they still believe things have to happen in a certain way.

[foundfamilyadoptionagency]

[desu-shitpost]

message to da JPs... get sillay

[demifiendfumi]

redraw an old drawing of my Ace Attorney AU with Devil Survivor 2 characters from 2014, now with Daichi and Anguished one/Alcor.

[sekaiwakireina]

[panndesal]

Old sketch but I miss drawing DeSu 2

[butchfalin]

the funniest meltdown ive ever had was in college when i got so overstimulated that i could Not speak, including over text. one of my friends was trying to talk me through it but i was solely using emojis because they were easier than trying to come up with words so he started using primarily emojis as well just to make things feel balanced. this was not the Most effective strategy... until. he tried to ask me "you okay?" but the way he chose to do that was by sending "👉🏼👌🏼❓" and i was so shocked by suddenly being asked if i was dtf that i was like WHAT???? WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME?????????? and thus was verbal again

[specialagentartemis]

in middle school during my Intense Greek Mythology Phase, Artemis was, as you can likely guess, my best girl. Iphigenia was my OTHER best girl. Yes at the same time.

The story of Iphigenia always gets to me when it's not presented as a story of Artemis being capricious and having arbitrary rules about where you can and can't hunt, but instead, making a point about war.

Artemis was, among other things--patron of hunting, wild places, the moon, singlehood--the protector of young girls. That's a really important aspect she was worshipped as: she protected girls and young women. But she was the one who demanded Agamemnon sacrifice his daughter in order for his fleet to be able to sail on for Troy.

There's no contradiction, though, when it's framed as, Artemis making Agamemnon face what he’s doing to the women and children of Troy. His children are not in danger. His son will not be thrown off the ramparts, his daughters will not be taken captive as sex slaves and dragged off to foreign lands, his wife will not have to watch her husband and brothers and children killed. Yet this is what he’s sailing off to Troy to inevitably do. That’s what happens in war. He’s going to go kill other people’s daughters; can he stand to do that to his own? As long as the answer is no—he can kill other people’s children, but not his own—he can’t sail off to war.

Which casts Artemis is a fascinating light, compared to the other gods of the Trojan War. The Trojan War is really a squabble of pride and insults within the Olympian family; Eris decided to cause problems on purpose, leaving Aphrodite smug and Hera and Athena snubbed, and all of this was kinda Zeus’s fault in the first place for not being able to keep it in his pants. And out of this fight mortal men were their game pieces and mortal cities their prizes in restoring their pride. And if hundreds of people die and hundred more lives are ruined, well, that’s what happens when gods fight. Mortals pay the price for gods’ whims and the gods move on in time and the mortals don’t and that’s how it is.

And women especially—Zeus wanted Leda, so he took her. Paris wanted Helen, so he took her. There’s a reason “the Trojan women” even since ancient times were the emblems of victims of a war they never wanted, never asked for, and never had a say in choosing, but was brought down on their heads anyway.

Artemis, in the way of gods, is still acting through human proxies. But it seems notable to me to cast her as the one god to look at the destruction the war is about to wreak on people, and challenge Agamemnon: are you ready to kill innocents? Kill children? Destroy families, leave grieving wives and mothers? Are you? Prove it.

It reminds me of that idea about nuclear codes, the concept of implanting the key in the heart of one of the Oval Office staffers who holds the briefcase, so the president would have to stab a man with a knife to get the key to launch the nukes. “That’s horrible!,” it’s said the response was. “If he had to do that, he might never press the button!” And it’s interesting to see Artemis offering Agamemnon the same choice. You want to burn Troy? Kill your own daughter first. Show me you understand what it means that you’re about to do.

[martyrbat]

well maybe if you look at bernie wrightson's frankenstein art youll calm down!

[tomiyeee]

this show has been very good for expression practice which i’ve been kind of lacking in the past few years or so hehe. have some anguish 😊

[araekniarchive]

eve, after the fall (auguste rodin; bronze, 1883)

Mark Twain, The Diaries of Adam and Eve // Hozier, From Eden // Angela Carter, The Bloody Chamber // Frank Bidart, The War of Vaslav Nijinsky // Eagles, The Last Resort // Anne Sexton, Words for Dr. Y

[skitskatdacat63]

AND I'M SUPPOSED TO BE NORMAL ABOUT THIS??????

I am staring intently

[hyakunana]

The Crafting Mystery

(yes, this is a parody — and yes this is the second time I make a parody of the same scene that is printed in my brain at this point)

[wip1502]

anguish

[freckleslikestars]

JohnAeryn moments of physical contact {2/5}

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