#HTTYD Zephyr

[ratlordsarah]

can you draw hiccstrid but as rats

I audibly screamed when I saw this in my inbox, tysm for this request Oml 😭

but here ya go 🎉

[cryptidstealingyourcreditcard]

teenage zephyr has 50% of astrid’s protectiveness and 100% of hiccups sass send tweet

[beebooca]

New here and would love to know all the names of the next gen kids and who their parents are in canon httyd!

I waited to answer this ask until I finished the last of these character lineups I’ve been working on for a while now :3 they got exactly the information you’re looking for, all their names, ages and connections to the canon characters!!

except Rune (and Thyra to a degree) all the Berserkers are funnily enough just side characters that don’t actually play that big of a part in the story I will hopefully one day write (new years resolution ig lol) but since I was doing Berks next gen in one lineup, I decided to design them all as well, even if only to have faces to think of when I’m daydreaming about my funny little plots

and as a bonus!! all the ones that have ties to canon characters next to them from my previous lineups! there is… a lot of them lmao

[lyradragonheart]

Astrid talking to Zephyr🥹

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okay i'm too busy to actually write it out in fic form but i can break down the basics i think

Spitlout has continued the Jorgenson tradition of never losing a Thawfest, though she and Zephyr are more closely matched.

Zephyr 100% got Astrid's competitive streak, but she also got Hiccup and Astrid as parents telling her that they're proud of her no matter what and generally not taking Thawfest super seriously/encouraging a "have fun with it!" mentality. So while Zephyr's certainly come close to beating Spitlout once or twice at the end of the day it's just a game and their rivalry is much stronger elsewhere.

Spitlout, on the other hand, takes Thawfest super seriously. Sure, Snotlout is very much not Spitelout, but when it comes to Thawfest? He's nothing but encouragement, but the pressure's still there. It's all "well of course you'll win, because you're my daughter/a Jorgenson!" and "I know you got this!" and "You can do it!" and while that all sounds very sweet on paper and Snotlout certainly doesn't intend to pressure his daughter Spitlout still gets it into her head that if she wants to be The Best, she has to Win, and if she loses, she's no longer the best. That Snotlout is one of the loudest cheerers in the audience also reinforces this as much as it encourages Spitlout.

I'd put them at maybe,,, 11 for Zephyr and 13 for Spitlout. So they've had quite a few Thawfests together, but are still fairly young and not the most emotionally mature.

This year's Thawfest ends up being different because Zephyr hears about the Thawfest we saw in canon, about how her father came so close to breaking the Jorgenson's eternal winning streak but choked at the last moment. I don't know who she hears it from, but it has to be someone who doesn't know that Hiccup threw the race on purpose. And also Zephyr needs to have heard the story of Finn Hofferson (but maybe not how Astrid resolved that) so then she can connect the two stories and decide that her father losing at the final second is something she has to Avenge as his eldest daughter.

So Zephyr goes into this one Thawfest absolutely locked in with the hypercompetitive streak inherited from Astrid. The stakes are so high in her mind. Nuffink sees the signs and is glad he's too young for his sister's age bracket (and then goes on and has fun with his).

It would probably parallel that episode with Spitlout dominating the events in the beginning so we can see just how much Snotlout's constant encouragement and hyping her up starts to create a pressure, an expectation, to win. And also to really get Zephyr focused in on winning, because even though Spitlout's not a sore winner she does still have that patent Jorgenson Obnoxiousness.

Second day of events starts and Zephyr starts to pull ahead, putting her and Spitlout neck and neck. They've gotten fairly close before, I think, but anyone who knows those two well enough can tell that it's different, this time, that it's no longer as much of a game to Zephyr. Her mother's competitive streak has combined with her father's ability to hyperfocus & tunnel vision and she is here to WIN.

Tiebreaker event. Hiccup and Astrid tell Zephyr they'll be proud of her no matter what. Snotlout tells Spitlout that she's doing great and he knows she'll win. They chant, and Spitlout goes into the final event mostly confident but also a tiny part of her is a little nervous thanks to the way Zephyr's been acting about the games this year.

The event commences, probably a race to really call back to the episode. Zephyr and Spitlout are neck and neck, both of them surging towards the finish line.

Zephyr wins.

Zephyr wins, breaking the Jorgenson's winning streak.

Zephyr wins, breaking Spitlout's winning streak.

Zephyr wins, and the shock of it stuns the crowd for the briefest of moments before they're all cheering.

Zephyr wins, and the shock of it hits Spitlout like a charging rumblehorn. She glances out at the crowd and meets eyes with her father, who's just as surprised as her.

Spitlout has never lost a Thawfest before. Sure, she's lost all kinds of little challenges and games to Zephyr, but Thawfest, in her mind, is different. No Jorgenson has ever lost a Thawfest.

No Jorgenson until her.

Zephyr's reveling in her win and a little bit the monumental feat of dethroning a Jorgenson. Spitlout panics and flees, because she doesn't know what else to do!

Zephyr's soooo smug about her win up until Nuffink comes up to her and asks if she had any fun. She won, so she must have had way more fun than ever, right?

(Zephyr realizes that no, she didn't.)

If Spitelout were to make an appearance in this it'd probably be here, in a conversation with Snotlout about Spitlout's performance. He'd be about as awful as you'd think, and Snotlout would be caught between the urge to defend his daughter and the shock at her losing. Maybe he'd argue back, maybe Spitelout would leave thinking they're on the same page, idk I might not even involve Spitelout in this. But also it could work so well so 🤷‍♀️

Cut ahead to sunset. Spitlout's out in the woods half-sulking half-crying because, for all that Snotlout is very much not Spitelout, he's also not infallible. Spitlout's seen her father angry, she's been yelled at, berated once or twice. And she's heard about what Spitelout was like to Snotlout, and she's done something that no Jorgenson has ever done before and it's not a good thing and she doesn't know what's going to happen to her but she's sure it's gonna be BAD because she's so so certain that she's fucked up immensely.

Spitlout definitely inherited both Snotlout's dramatic tendencies and his ability to spiral, even if the latter isn't always seen.

It's been hours, the sun has set, and it's starting to get cold. Enter Snotlout, who's been frantically looking for Spitlout the entire time for the very good reason of "she ran off crying" and "nobody has seen her for HOURS". He spots her, and his immediate reaction is anger, to snap at her for being missing so long, because he was worried.

Spitlout only sees that her father is angry, and nearly breaks down again. The anger drains from Snotlout, because he sees the panic in her eyes and he recognizes it. Shit, fuck, his daughter is crying and it's his fault—

"No nonono, I'm sorry, it's okay, I was just worried," Approach slowly. Spitlout doesn't flinch away, and Snotlout pulls her into a hug. "I was just worried."

Spitlout returns the hug. "I lost." She sniffs, and it's like she's six years old and crying over her favorite toy being smashed because she doesn't know what else to do, how to fix it. "I'm sorry." Her fingers dig into Snotlout's sides and he holds her closer.

Spitlout isn't entirely equipped to deal with this. Snotlout wouldn't have been any better, at her age—Hel, he's not sure what to do about it now. So he defaults to holding Spitlout close until they've both calmed down, until Spitlout starts to squirm.

"It's not your fault." Snotlout says. His father never would have said those words to him. "You did your best." It's the truth; Jorgensons have always taken Thawfest seriously, and Spitlout is no exception.

"But I lost." Spitlout's not crying anymore, her voice flat, almost taut. "Jorgensons aren't supposed to lose. We're supposed to be the best." She wraps her arms around herself, the picture of teenage uncertainty. Snotlout cups her face in his hands and looks into her eyes—green, like Spitelout's, though Snotlout has never seen any such resemblance—and gives it to her straight:

"Spitlout, you are the best." He means it. "You're the best thing that ever happened to me, and don't you forget it." He means every word of it.

Spitlout nods. She's still unsure, but the loss no longer stings the way it did before. Zephyr's stepped up her game, so Spitlout reasons that she'll just have to be better.

"And you losing Thawfest isn't the end of the world." Snotlout continues, "There's always next year." He stands, ready to head back home, Spitlout falling into step alongside him. "In fact, I should tell you about the time I almost lost—wait." Snotlout stops, thinking back. "Toothless was way faster than Hookfang back then..." you can see the gears turning in his head, "HE THREW THE RACE?!"

and that's where it'd end i think. wanted to end it that way both for a bit of levity and also to emphasize how, in a way, snotlout is the first jorgenson to lose a thawfest. i hope this all makes sense character-wise and that you enjoyed it bc i sure did enjoy writing it. if i could have given spitlout a little bindle to reference "Not-Lout" i would have. but otherwise yeah as an episode it'd be a Spitlout & Snotlout episode wearing the guise of a Zephyr vs Spitlout episode. and i'm going to bed now

OH MY GOD THIS SO GOOD????? I love Snotlout putting pressure on his daughter without meaning too, smth like that is exactly what i mean when i say that him trying to not repeat his fathers mistakes would lead him to overcompensate/make other mistakes he might have a blindspot for

The consolation scene is beautiful AND THE IMAGERY OF SNOTLOUT LOOKING INTO EYES LIKE HIS FATHERS WITHOUT HIM MAKING THE CONNECTION, WITH ONLY LOVE AND OFFERING THE AFFECTION THAT HE NEVER GOT IS SO GGFHFGFGGFGG it's pretty cool ^_^

Plus Zephyr getting a lesson out of it too is nice, the way you described it it's quite easy to imagine the games starting out lighthearted and gradually becoming more tense as the stakes rise, without anyone really intending for that to happen, generational trauma (if you wanna call it that) putting undue pressure on kids who were just supposed to have some fun

I also like that you didn't have Snotlout hold a big impactful speech towards Spitelout, him being caught of guard and feeling the urge to defend his daughter without being quite able to act on it in the moment seems pretty spot on, at that age Snotlout would be a lot more detached from his father ofc but if Spitelout was to chew out Spitlout (and by proxy Snotlout) to his face i feel like he'd still struggle to argue back

All in all this is an absolute BANGER, 10/10, putting this one at the tippy top of the fridge

[wolfasketch]

Drew these while my WI-FI was out, so have some 2024 art in 2025. I'll be releasing grouped height charts and solo images in later days

[otwdfanfic]

Gustav was suddenly in motion, sweeping curls of parchment and wood shavings from his workbench. “It’s beyond the bounds of these charts,” he explained, glancing at her map, then pausing to take another look. “Gods, who drew this? A mainland cartographer?” His tone was incredulous as he lifted the delicate paper by one corner. “The scale is ridiculous and it’s practically falling apart… wait, is this Hiccup’s scrappy old map?” “He charted the whole Archipelago with Toothless,” she huffed defensively, swatting his hand. “Don’t tear it.” He let the map fall to the table. “I know, I was there. Or around. But really, Freckles, this is too lousy to use. I’ll give you a better one.”

— Into the Polar Night, chapter 5: Bite the Hand

[died-of-feels]

So I made some charts cause I was bored and stressed with school

[k4pp4-8]

Uncle snotlout is REAL and CANON

[elshe]

✨“Can we keep them?!”✨

Except Hiccup and Astrid are the ones who would ask to keep them lol

Maybe just Hiccup actually.

idk these two kiddies are sooo cute. I love them.

[revive-the-fandom]

What if Hicctrid had Zephyr wayyy early ?

[ratlordsarah]

For the art requests!!

An older (17ish?) Zephyr Haddock?

couldn’t resist the urge to add in my “hiccup as a dad would be such a supportive loving loser” agenda into this lmao

[cryptidstealingyourcreditcard]

i love the idea that zephyr is like a perfect mix of astrid and hiccup and nuffink is just. neither

dude is ruffnut and tuffnut crammed into one body minus the book smarts

[beebooca]

I made stickers of my next gen and I am so happy with how they turned out! <333

(not including the next gen ages 14 to 16, I might do them another time tho)

[violet-moonstone]

Hiccup and Zephyr:

Hiccup and Nuffink:

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do we think spitlout gets along with zephyr & nuffink? i can see spitlout and zephyr both havign ideas about hot to go about whatever hijinks they're up to and arguing about who should be in charge (spitlout "i'm the eldest!" vs zephyr's "i'm the chief's daughter!" vs nuffink's "uh, guys, the sheep are getting away!"). like hiccup & snotlout almost, rival friends. or maybe spitlout's more of a bully like her father, idk

I can totally see them being rival friends, Spitlout would have grown up with her father bantering with- and constantly questioning the chief so that title would probably not hold too much weight for her and she wouldn’t really think of the Haddock kids as any different to the rest of Berk, her and Zephyr might have a little rivalry but it'd be much more playful than the one their parents had during RoB/DoB, since both of them would have had a better upbringing and there'd be no massive paradigmen shift to cause any jealousy, plus i feel like they'd both enjoy playfighting

Also i challenge the common assertion that Snotlout bullied Hiccup any more than the rest of Berks population, we see no indication of that in the first movie, in RoB/DoB his behavior reads much more as antagonizing a superior than bullying to me (i feel like people often forget that Hiccup is their future chief/team leader + basically their teacher at the beginning of RoB), i think it can be argued that he bullied Fishlegs but it’s not like that's the one anyone focuses on

I'm not saying he wasn't a little shit/being antagonistic i'm just annoyed with people acting like he dunked Hiccup into boiling oil every day