#I dislike AI art

[everythingisok3000]

Dude I prefer anything created by a child in MS paint fifteen years ago to literally anything created by AI. When I look up Cyborg Pigs I'd rather see this:

every day of the damning week than ninety-percent of what's being shown to me on google images. There's just literally no artistic vision there whatsoever. Where's the desperation? The drive to make something with your own hands? You can't MAKE me like AI art man.

[sp00ky9]

Pls ignore how bad this looks I did this in like five mins

[22degreehalo]

Something I see a lot in talks about AI art is something I've seen about a lot of different kinds of art: a desire to have the product reflect skill and/or talent.

Like, it reminds me so very much of how some (usually older) people react to music software. It used to be that you'd have to go the long way and spend years learning the guitar; now just anybody can simulate that sound for you and clean it all up and make it perfect!

Of course, there are many provisos to that; not anybody can open up that sort of program and put together a great-sounding song. The people who make e.g. really classic Vocaloid songs are very skilled with the program and very talented r.e. music. (And perhaps that is or will be true for AI, too: that anybody can just create a picture, but someone very skilled with a particular program can make something very specific and good!)

But it's that initial impulse that just... bothers me, a little. Because, yes, of course I understand the fear that you devoted years of your life to a subject and now it can be generated by just anyone. But why turn it around and treat it as some sort of principled, purist stance? Why does someone HAVE to devote years of their life to something to make art?

It just feels a bit. Suffering romanticisey. Either that, or making art inaccessible to ordinary people. Like 'Artists' are some inherently different kind of person.

Of course we can still value the dedication that went into specific kinds of work. Maybe that's your favourite thing about art. But doesn't it open up art to so many different kinds of people when barriers are taken away? People who can't afford to slave away for years on it? People who for some sort of physical or mental or whatever reason just can't ever really be as good with the 'traditional' process?

Again: this is not really about AI art and whether it does offer those opportunities to people. This is about the initial reaction that letting ordinary people more easily create art is somehow bad, and takes some kind of soul out of the process. But people have different capabilities; what is easy for most people is very difficult for others. Why is making art impossible for some people so important? What is so much more 'real' about art that requires very special tools, or knowledge that is barred the masses? What are we losing by letting 'untalented' people overcome certain obstacles?

[regicidal-defenestration]

I should update my site and write a piece about AI because I have a lot of thoughts that boil down to You keep on using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means

[hislittleraincloud]

Someone's come full circle and I'm here for it.

[sirenspells]

[Omori and Stranger AI-Ball AU]

Character profiles for my aitsf au guys, based on the ones in the games! They took a while but I’m pretty proud of them! Yippee!

References I used under the cut:

[avephelis]

you guys know ai covers are ai art right. you know performing arts are art right. and that voice acting is an art and a profession. right.

[sabakos]

Photography is almost certainly a better analogy to AI Art than Duchamp's Readymades or any other modern or postmodern art. But unfortunately it's too good of an analogy to make the point because if you hang out around artists you absolutely will encounter numerous people who tell you that photography isn't art and will give the same exact justifications that they do for AI art. I have encountered no shortage of visual artists who refuse to believe there's any skill involved in taking a good picture, or act like the fact that photographers don't work as hard as other artists (which isn't even always true) means that photography doesn't count as art. I don't know if people realize this but the art world is full of people with deeply reactionary and conservative aesthetics, whatever hippie art teacher you're picturing who says anything can be art does not speak with the voice of an overwhelming majority and chances are you should appreciate them more than you do.

[hungergameshyperfixation]

I’ve seen AI images of Katniss and Peeta on Pinterest (like, painfully obvious ai) and all I have to say is that we truly need to re-embrace the art of shitty photoshopping. I’m begging. I cannot stand to see any more AI; I would literally rather see a million photo edits of Peeta and Katniss’s heads put over stock images, with a B&W filter over the image, and a white text caption in cursive font about love. I’d take 100 “cringy” imagines and personally frustrating fan theories over circulating AI image generated stuff.

At least those are all made by real people 💀

I guess you really don’t know what you have until it’s missing.

[victory-cookies]

I wish I could handle myself in an argument without fucking crying

[doppel-dean-er]

it's "chrimbo shares his stupid headcanons while half asleep" hour, get ready

Troy and Abed never respond in the study group's group chat except to send that one AI generated Joe Biden Pokémon image at the most inappropriate times. they think it's the funniest shit in the world and everyone else hates them for it, Annie will hear cackling from across the apartment, her phone will ping, and she just sighs

[unova22]

Ok, so, here's an image of Mephiles i got Bing image creator to generate.

And here it is cleaned up to not have a mouth and with a more accurate muzzle and inside of ears color.

I used IbisPaint X to do the fixing, I generated it because I knew AI could do it justice, I left the streaks a more green teal because changing it would've been an absolute mess considering how I had to use the magic wand tool liberally to change the muzzle color, I'm gonna ask ChatGPT to gen me a nålebinding pattern for a Shadow the Hedgehog amigurumi and make Mephiles using it, I'm o e of those artists who use ai as a tool rather than a crutch to lean on, this was made just for the profile pic for a Mephiles bot on figgs.ai because I knew that it would be easier to generate the image. Also yes, my life is entwined with ai. I legit have a keyboard app so i can have a keyboard font close to VT Portable Remington, weed leaf digital keycaps and an image of Mephiles as the background of it. If I'm ever told i don't look autistic I'll just show the fucker my phone keyboard.

[bribes]

gnawing on ankle

[asaxophony]

Legitimately confusing to still see artists and ppl recommending glaze/nightshade and acting like it's the end all be all when how effective both are is still kind of eeeeeh?

Glaze also tends to chew up and compress your images to the point ppl have to go back in and put filters over it. There also seems to be a really large misunderstanding on how Glaze functions, especially on this site.

Glaze changes a specific range of the art ran through it to be read by diffusion as a different style. Generally it's changing pixels and code within the image so ultimately it does end up changing the image, often adding visual noise in the form of swirls or giving it a crunchy compressed look. Depending on how far you run the art through Glaze it can come out looking like a badly compressed jpeg. Glaze does this using the same sort of AI tech. The end result occasionally needs to be run through filters to get it too not look shit. The ultimate goal of Glaze is if someone is training directly from your art, and it's all been ran through Glaze the person won't be able to get a solid style from it, so the images trained off of it will be off from your specific style and not able to replicate it believably. It does not prevent img2img.

Generally Glaze's adversal noise is now robust enough to not be easily edited or taken out by the ai bros, this definitely was not the case on its release. So definitely use it but just keep in mind how it functions and weigh the pros and cons of like it crunching art, and any art posted on the web has a chance of being scraped.

I've seen some arguments basically being like well its the equivalent of crunching you art down into shitty jpegs, no one is going to train off of something that looks like shit which is I think definitely like yeah art has the downside of ot having to be visually vlear and good looking g for it to function so you can ultimately only change it so much before it deviates too much from the artists original intent and vision.

[yakkyrwhackr]

usually im an asshole about ai but i'm being a tad bit nicer with this announcement

[ammbedo]

you know all of nestedneon's stuff is AI generated right

honestly no, but i can say in... decent faith that it wasn't always like that, but i checked many of the most recent "art" they've shared and i'm seeing that indeed a lot of them are indeed AI-generated. can definitely say they're no longer on my following list now