Issues with Eclipse's treatment
What good behavior can you expect out of a character that has been dealt nothing but wrongs?
Eclipse has no reason to be kinder.
Eclipse spent a year abandoned in somebody's head watching a version of himself live a better life.
From the very moment eclipse was born he has only known that people hated him.
Eclipse has always been treated bad. So why expect anything else.
Eclipse has never treated anyone good. So no one will expect him to treat anyone good.
Eclipse will always be snarky towards moon and others because he is not expecting them to treat him any better.
Old Moon caused eclipse pain. Never once did he apologize for it.
Copy Eclipse still hasn't heard Moon's apology.
Eclipse's only goal is to figure out why he is alive. Presumably to make it so he cannot be alive ever again.
Eclipse did not want to be alive. Neither do I think the fandom did.
Eclipse is going insane due to the fact that he is essentially a zombie that keeps coming back. Each time lesser and lesser then their original self
Eclipse might be believing his insanity is normal. No one else is helping him with it. And only uses it as a slur.
Eclipse possibly has thought of reckless suicide attempts.
Eclipse is totally on board dying.
Eclipse might be angering moon to get him to lash out purposely. To trigger the bomb.
Eclipse did trigger lunar enough to kill him.
It is unsettling that the fandom does not care about this angle because it is "too violent" for the main show.
Crimes unrightfully stacking against copy eclipse who did not do them only remember.
Crimes of OG Eclipse should be there's alone.
Crimes of backup Eclipse should be there's alone.
Crimes of copy Eclipse should be there's alone.
Copy eclipses only crime is remembering the previous crimes and kidnapping ruin. The only other bad thing he does is spit threats.
Moon has essentially pinned every crime from the previous eclipses onto copy Eclipse. Putting him on a death sentence because of those crimes. And making him do manual labor or else he will expedite that death sentence.
Moon's behavior has improved very little. His behavior has best improved towards sun and closer friends. Any other behavior has stayed relatively the same.
Moon's self-improvement was cut short by his death. And unfortunately New Moon is spiraling back into the same bad habits.
New Moon's behavior has unfortunately turned very sour. He is easier to anger, and has started the verbal abuse up once again.
Moon has always wanted eclipse dead. Never once was him disappearing good enough.
Moon will continue to think he is in the right because he is "always right".
Moon continues to make decisions without considering others.
Moon and Sun have continuously laughed at the villain's faults. In eclipses case it is laughing about insanity. Something caused out of mistreatment and abandonment. Something they caused.
Moon has used eclipses insanity and madness as a slur against him.
Moons abuse is worse and has stayed longer than eclipses abuse.
Sun has spent at least 8 years being abused by old moon. Enough that it has lasted even after his death.
Moon's harassment includes putting sun in dangerous situations, pushing and shoving him, Hit him canonically once, Whatever type of fighting happened when they were in one body, and verbal abuse.
Sun is continuously scared that he will say something to upset Moon. Expecting him to revert to old habits.
Sun only thinks his and Moons relationship is "good" when everything is going ok.
Sun might not realize how much Moons abuse affected him. Given that he saw it as normal for so long.
Sun was confused as to why lunar would kill his brother. Given that he might have seen the abuse as "not as bad". Which is telling that he is desensitized to his abuse.
Eclipse's harassment towards sun was never really personal. It was personal towards moon. Sun was just the easy way to harm him.
Sun has never once had any free time to go through all these issues.
Lunar only spent a month of physical abuse under eclipse.
Eclipse harmed lunar 3 times, tried to kill him twice, gave him panic attacks a couple times, and blew him up once. Most of his abuse was verbal.
Eclipse's harassment towards lunar was only out of fear of losing his victory.
Never once did eclipse ever really try to treat lunar as a brother better than moon would. He only used it as a word to compare themselves to Sun and Moon.
Eclipse also did care for Lunar's health. The code checking was only for health concerns. Along with many other scenarios where eclipse was worried about his health.
Lunar was happy with eclipse for some time. In many videos they are very entertained and happy with each other. It is only when eclipse got the star that it started going south.
Eclipse most likely started harming lunar due to generational trauma. Basing off of moons actions.
The fandom is ignoring moons wrongs in order to support the protagonist.
The fandom is letting this mistreatment slide despite the majority of the characters encouraging it. Believing Eclipse's mistreatment is the only way for eclipse to have a redemption.
Expecting redemption is unlikely. Eclipse has no reason to change. And sun moon have no reason to not hate him because of such.
There is not many scenarios without breaking character where they want to help eclipse get better.
Eclipse has been called an evil entity by magic people. Making his fate clear on a destiny level.
Moon wants him dead. Although it's softens with every encounter.
Sun wants him dead. Although that is just a statement as he was surprised at lunar's actions against eclipse.
Lunar wants him dead. And did so to seek a peace they did not gain.
Monty wants him gone. And finds Eclipse's torment hilarious.
Solar doesn't have an opinion because he's following Moon.
Earth doesn't believe he can change because he is too stuck in anger. She currently doesn't seem to have a healthy outlook on Eclipse doing anything else but bad. She is also unfortunately grown fearful due to his death.
Ruin is scared of him due to his kidnapping. Also multiple outlash believing he is his creator. Although this might be null given new actions.
Puppet finds eclipses torment hilarious.
Freddy has called eclipse an evil entity he wants gone.
Loss of a villain. The only replacement we have been offered is Moon themselves, and this mysterious entity that we do not yet care about.
They have shelved blood moon because making him a worse villain backfired. They changed the character too much and made the protagonists too misunderstanding of them.
They are doing the opposite of blood moon with eclipse. But they are attempting to stay in character. Making a muddled directive.
They are dragging Eclipse into the sympathy card and making their own protagonist bad guys by doing so.
They are failing to make the villains sympathetic, Because Moon is just as bad. Eclipse is unable to outcompete the bad.
Eclipse might very well die or be shelved similar to Blood Moon. Just so the show writers do not have to deal with the backlash of his mistreatment.
This is a cycle of abuse. Eclipse will never forgive Moon, and at this point believes there is not going back. Moon will never forgive eclipse, and believes that eclipse will never change. Both are too prideful to let go.
And nothing will change until one of them or any of the other characters let go.
If anyone wants to ask if I could add/modify/or remove points I am open to do so. Just give me reasonable counter arguments or new points to add.
I will note, I stopped watching the show for my own health. So while I can add new or modify points to match with the new story. I will not know all the details and can only go off of what people tell me. So excuse me if some of these points are a little old or misinformed.
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